My Honest Thoughts on Season 3 Ranked as the #1 Solo Player
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2024
- My Honest Thoughts on Season 3 Ranked as the #1 Solo Player
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The fact that people constantly state how 'complicated' cash out and the finals in general are really says a lot about the intelligence of the larger gaming community.
Yeah it's not that hard. Get money, guard money, steal money done.
@@preyaskhuntia2190 You're describing quick cash. Cashout is more complicated.
@@laZeeeeee Only in tournaments
thank you. Im betting thats also one of the reasons why we get fixed loadout depending on map variations in world tour. Because people are so obsessed with whats meta and whats not that they wont pack essential gadgets like ziplines or bumpers, or will play short range weapons on map variations like suspended structures.
@@laZeeeeeenot by much though bro.
Death threats over an update is wild tho. some of yall needa get out there and feel the warmth of a hug, really feel what it’s like to be loved 😂😂
you sure would know better
@@diztinger yeah cus I’m not making death threats over an update 💀
🗿@@diztinger
@@diztinger my glorious king would never be wrong
you're talking about maybe 50 people. Not worth addressing in every single comments section, it doesn't invalidate any points against the devs
Imagine when you die, subway surfers gamepaly just starts playing in the corner of your screen
Anything would be better than the 20 to 40 seconds (with team wipe) for such a fast paced game.
They should add a gulag type of option after the first death for each round per player or just give each team 3 gulags total.
it might make the adhd playerbase stop whining for 10 seconds
It would be sick to have a mini game to play when waiting 🤔
I definitely believe they did this for the right reasons. As a Cashout fan myself it's gonna be great to see how different Cashout ends up at the end of S3, and I'm glad Embark are playing the long game on this one. Keeping Cashout without changing it for multiple seasons isn't working in my opinion. They need another "beta" period to reshape it into a good Ranked mode.
as well,
Right now, they are substituting Terminal Attack as a familiar gamemode that is guaranteed to give you fair rankings and matchmaking. The game might lose its theme in Ranked, but they seem to be shifting the focus away from "ranked is the core experience". Technically the only way to "reach the Finals" this season was through Ranked Tournaments. But now they are giving casual players a taste of THE FINALS gameshow. And once they make it good for casuals, they can reintroduce it to Ranked.
I just hope game wont become The Terminals... I loved chaos and tournament gamemode, not this Counter strike valorant siege shit. I dont play cs i wont play terminals
@@eleveneleven3474 The devs emphasised that cashout will always be their main focus. They only use TA for ranked this season so they can tweak cashout when it's not locked into a ranked gamemode. It will be back and better next season.
@@ciifer.creatives yeah, read that just now, hyping for new season!
I don't understand why there can't be two ranked modes at the same time
The matchmaking times are already bad, and the ranked playerpool is small, so having two modes would only make things worse
@@-oni_0425no that is not why at all. Cashout will return as a ranked mode but first it is undergoing a balance overhaul. The game only has 4 game modes it has nothing to do with splitting the player base.
Seems nice in theory, but as someone who played ranked, the population was already quite small. Diamond players like myself routinely queued into plat, gold and on rare occasions silver players. Splitting the already minuscule population would likely kill both modes on the spot. Better to keep one for the time being, allow the mode to cook a bit in a bigger picture setting this season, and see how cashout looks for season 4 and beyond.
They don't want to split the playercount between ranked modes, it'll lead to longer queue timings and half empty lobbies
ranked will be for both modes
I love that Emark is trying out new things. I'm here for it! My only complaint with the game is the long timers and spawn locations in the current ranked cashout mode. Either cut the timer down and spawn us far away or spawn us a little closer with a long time. Not both. To wait 15-30secs and watch myself run 150 meters back to an objective is not fun. Terminal Attack may hit different, we'll see. I'll support it for Season 3. They're not done cooking; I believe we will see many more changes for the better as we test things out in the coming seasons.
i don't see any problem becouse we will have world tour which will be just our classic tournament and they even said that it will be "bigger and better"
Yes, and the devs on discord said that world tour will be availabe all the time and will change something every week
My problem with this is that it is only from bronze to gold and gold was very easy to hit this season I ended up even flying to diamond 3 also the core of the game is cashout
My only question for world tour is it gonna be different rewards from ranked (aka terminal attack because for some reason)?
you just play it ..not competetive ..no rank up it will be boringg...wtf are they doing...if ranked cash ou gone i will go me too
Hopefully it will
why does everyone base games off of a ranked mode, why can’t we just have fun anymore?
Now not to be rude but what if they find fun in a ranked game mode
nothing to work towards = players leave
Because being good in ranked is the most fun you can have
Tough to do when every time you find something fun to use the devs nerf it, do you live under a rock this is happening in nearly every major game recently, same thing in Helldivers 2 forcing the devs to put out a statement saying they will walk back the nerfs. I am tired of committing to a game, liking it, then having my playstyle gutted because people complained.
@@JayJay-sz9ee No, the most fun you can have is enjoying the game itself. This game is amazing and yet everyone only cares about that ranked shit. Yes it’s cool to show how good you are at the game but truly, and I mean TRULY. Why does that matter?
Bro has been grinding day and night😭
Did you mean night and day?
3v3 Terminal Attack with 1 Terminal would more closely resemble a Cashout Final. It also means 3-Stacks don't get fractured by dropping a player for 5v5. It also means that the devs could enable role lock too. For a high TTK game, I think 3v3 should be the maximum in a competitive environment. Even though it would undermine the $250k/min trailer that dropped, it's worth considering.
Then whoever gets the first kill gains a massive advantage. In starcraft 3v3 normally leads to ganking one player and making it a 3v2. All it takes is losing your light sniper and now you are at the mercy of the other sniper. Plus setups and rotations would be impossible. If you have 1 guy defending each terminal they can get overwhelmed by 2-3 players. Then you have to rotate with 1-2 players against 2-3 players.
If anything it should be 6v6 like Overwatch 1 with two slots for each role: LLMMHH
@@Bagginsess Whoever gets the first kill gains an advantage in any setting. I specifically said 1 Terminal which I think you missed. 3v3 with 1 Terminal will encourage people to play together rather than "play for picks".
@@bergerblancsuisse.that’s a pretty good idea
@@bergerblancsuisse. I did miss that one terminal part. That makes the game very boring then.
There's a huge difference between 5v4 or 6v5 and 3v2. Again star craft proves that but let's look else where, dota 2: 3v2 is a terrible match up. Then as another example apex legends, if one of your teammates quit you are severely handicapped, I say quit because normally you can rez your teammate which lessens the blow of having one teammate die, oh and everyone can fully heal. Stormgate makers of starcraft are overhauling the 3v3 mode to make it more balanced. WOW 3v3 arena allows healing and rezzing. Rocket League has no deaths. There are few games where you even have ranked 3v3 and none that I can think of have with perma death without rez or healing except starcraft or any other RTS and those are brutal. Though you could make the argument than in an RTS rebuilding your base and army counts as healing.
I think 5v5 is much better for this game mode. Plus you want some modes with bigger groups. I've had plenty of times where I need a 4th spot for buddies. I'd actually like to see quick cash with a 4v4v4 or 5v5
i was one of those guys that got a bit upset ( more or less) with the rank, but after i played WITH my friends , hgl was sooo much fun.
You’re sniping in TA and calling it boring and slow. Come on bruh.
someone tell this guy awp/operators exist in cs/valorant.
Someone tell the other guy that this isn’t cs/valorant
@@diztingerand someone tell u that in none of those 3 games sniper is the most aggressive weapon to make the game play faster
The gamemode is boring as hell. There is like no fights
He tried every weapon to see what worked
If they do end up removing cahsout as rank, then community should make a 3rd party website to play cahsout tournaments just like how counter stike players use FACE IT to play cs competitivly
THIS
I actually love Terminal Attack, I agree maybe it shouldn't replace the ranked modes altogether but I do really enjoy it.
Few question what's the last Call of Duty you purchased do you like fortnite, And do you like competitive games?😂
I play both ranked and terminal attack before the announcement. I’m kinda excited to be fair 😅 I’m just going by to play, have a gold time, get to diamond again and let them balance the game more and change stuff out. Let’s see what happens.
Gold will be top rank for world tour unfortunately but have fun in TA
@@anthonycook2194 I’ll get top on both 🤣 because I like both modes.
@@stewyzq i can only agree. I absolutely love both modes, and i will stick to this games for ever man. Embark is such a passionate dev team, i will just let them cook 🤝
@@Kwazii1 hell yeah!!! I haven’t seen a game dev like them in a long time. I’m here for the long haul!! 😝💜
@@stewyzq like i'm completely finished with season 2 max rank all rewarda etc. And i'm ready to get everthing in season 3 aswell. Most fun ive had in a fps in yeeeaaaars
The one thing I like about the change is I have a solid group of 5 consistently to play and it kind of sucks how limited we are sometimes. However, I agree with the comments on terminal attack in its current state. I think all we can do is hope that it improves with time. I do think with the world tour mode though this could give us the same experience we see in ranked tournaments now. Or maybe I'm just coping.
I'm glad you shared your honest opinion but still looked at it with optimism
ngl, for the amount of time ottr invests in the finals, I don't think the game deserves such player like you, and if ur reading this ottr, I truly wanna thank you for not giving up on my fav game that helped me through tough times the past couple of months
I tried the terminal attack mode, and it felt very flat. The game excels at crazy situations, like a building being gradually destroyed as teaams keep contesting a payload. None of that happens or can happen in terminal attack because that type of game mode promotes low risk gameplay, like sniping and camping because death is so costly.
I completely agree terminal attack works against everything the finals does well, They seem to forget that the fact that you can pick up your teammates body and revive them is what's key to the chaos, Terminal attack plays like a final overtime round of a regular Game mode where you only get one life and 1 gadget use, Everybody plays like they're afraid to lose so the action in chaos just isn't there The health not responding is also another terrible edition also on top of the fact that the Game mode bands the healing beam it just goes to show you how piss poorly thought out this Game mode was, Without the health regen losing 1 or 2 teammates in the beginning of a round is pretty much an instant loss, I played 2 games of TA yesterday and I've never been so bored while winning a ranked game mode before, The rounds are either long and boring or short an uneventful,
Thank you it’s basically search and destroy with slowww gameplay
What if they made it something like Destiny 2s MP mode wherein the team will have a limited pool of respawns per round? I think merging the concept of Terminal and Cashout would be great 👍
A major reason why big and popular games such as Fortnite or valorant have been able to succeed is because they are essentially taking the idea of their game from another game like pubg or csgo. This allows new players to Fortnite or valorant to already have a sense of understanding on the game and will be more inclined to keep playing as it’s more familiar. I sure as hell didn’t grasp CASHOUT when I first played it because it was so unique and ended up not playing a lot of the BETA cause I felt bad compared to other people who play the game. I’m sure this is what new players at launch experienced and is what is “killing” tons of new games like splitgate or that stupid roller derby game lmao.
The finals is prob switching to term attack because they need the player base to have some sort of familiarity with their game in order to keep developing and updating the finals. Term attack will be good just back it up with some hope. I also think that it’s more competitive because it’s less 3rd partying and less losing to a team at a different cashout because they stole in the last 6 seconds. Sure you can get good enough to control these variables but for newer players that don’t have a clue on what the cashout box does and what to do with it, it can get confusing.
I've thought from the beginning and still do that cashout is a blast but has a bit of a learning curve to it. When it's your only option as a mode it's going to really be hit or miss with your community. Terminal in comparison is a very cut and paste classic team based FPS mode. It's a mode that just about every fps player around will fall right into and gives a good comfort zone for new players. I think the switch can pay off for building up the playerbase on a mode they can learn the game on and then pivot into cashout as the premier mode once they've really honed it in.
I'd say just be patient, they're fixing up cashout to be more competitive weekly world tour sounds fun
I think terminal attack is pretty fun and I don't agree with everything you said about it but I can agree that at it's core, the finals isn't designed around a mode like that. I think it should have it's own ranked mode, and the main mode should remain the same.
I play this game casually (I’ve played ranked one single round ever) and let me just say I think terminal attack is just not good, it is a lame derivative take on a CS style mode and I’d rather just play CS. Cashout tournaments are what makes this game unique and gives it depth, and I really hope they continue to prioritize cashout over chasing the success of counter strike
The only reason I started playing the finals was because it wasn't a tactical shooter. And since all I care about is ranked in shooters, this will be it for me. I really hope they know what they are doing with this change, and that it helps this game out. Would love to come back later on, when there is another ranked mode.
Cashout superbly embodies “The Finals” both in name and in gameplay, and it’s just an odd decision to swap away from that. Maybe with some tweaking terminal attack can be a good game-mode but its going to take some ingenuity.
As an oce player that wants nothing more than to play ranked with no lag this is such a good call by embark. This will bring back alot of the players thay were missing and alot more new players that like seige and cs. Im an old cs and val player and i fell in love with finals day 1. But tbh when i 1st played QC and BI those modes and along with CO legit just feel like who can 3rd party who. That is not fun.... if you think thats funs thats fine but to be forced to jump regions, lag the fuck out and then get third partied when you have no clue if you would win that fight on 30ms if really frustrating. Terminal only feels boring because like ottr said theres no stakes but other than that it feels pretty good and the devs are changing alot of it soon. Im real hyped for this season and cant wait for what embark cooks up next 😊
As a light main, I love TA. It finally feels like high damage/mobility is actually useful, since chip damage actually matters.
Honestly I hit diamond and started playing t-attack solely, I love it. Brings back the feels of bo3 search and destroy
After hitting diamond, I enjoyed playing TA because it does have intense moments. I’m excited to see what S3 brings
I love Terminal Attack & PowerShift. But I also love ranked (and think 3 rounds per whole match is better than 4 rounds)... And current Ranked is THE FINALS at it's very best.
In the past few weeks I've played more Ranked than any other mode.
edit: oh but yea as a solo player TA is terrible... Only play it in 5stack tryharding with comms, then it's fun.
Season 3 will be a pivotal moment for The Finals, either way you look at it!
I feel like in terminal attack they should add revives and heals but no natural regeneration. This way instead of having randoms throwing you can use them as shields. Maybe you can also add bans in the beginning where you can ban tools and such. All hypothetical but could be interesting. Speaking of, I think it could be cool if they add modifiers like from brawl stars where you can reload faster or something.
I was in the Discord here and there explicitly to voice my disapproval. I don't think I saw anyone calling for death threats save one idiot, but that's obviously evil and can't be allowed. That being said, seriously I'm encouraged by how overwhelmingly negative the reception has been so far. Hopefully something positive can be forced out of this.
Brother you don't have to play the mode... I'm actually interested in seeing you play world tour, wasn't it announced that it will have it's own leaderboard?
At the end of the day. Just please do what you actually enjoy
Duh
It was a nice game. Loved the ranked system, although it needed some work but it was fun. Now I am only waiting for another fps to catch my attention before dropping this one for good.
They should remove waiting like if u won the cashout the next one spawns no waiting to change wepons the only pause in the middle to just switch sides
tbh i agree with your opinion, tho when me and my two friends (we have been grinding ranked this season and have been playing since day one) watched the trailer, it kinda shattered our dreams of getting to diamond in season three, and while i have mostly come to terms with it, the fact that we will have two randoms each game and it wont just be up to me and my trio to get the win does concern me a bit, also i came from valorant and the slow paced attack and destroy game-mode was the reason i stopped playing. ether way im hear to stay and aint ever gona leave the finals i just hope embark listens to the people and that the game will reach unheard of heights.
如果每一季的積分模式都是相同的，對我來說就某種程度上蠻無聊的
如同持續推出新武器、地圖一樣、平衡改動，我希望能夠有變化，每季著重在不同模式、地圖、武器，每個模式、地圖、武器，都擁有屬於自己發光發熱的那一季
當然，每個人的喜好都不同，不論是玩法、地圖、武器，等等…
以上只是我的想法
I disagree with terminal attack being boring. It actually brought me back to the game. Personally I think the base cash out mode is boring.
I played all of season 1, didn’t play much of season 2. All my friends quit in season 1. It was just too confusing to have to explain cash out and why they should care and play it. AND It was always hard to play with friends with a party limit of 3.
After the season 3 trailer and getting them to try TA, they’re now buying the BP and having heaps of fun and are looking forward to season 3 after having ZERO interest in playing at all.
The core of The Finals is good gameplay, movement, and destruction, not cash out.
At the end of the day if you really care about this game you WANT the casuals to be happy. Not confused bored and wanting to go back to an accessible game they can play with friends. Attitudes like this are what will kill the finals if anything. I hope the devs keep trying new things because I love this game. And hopefully now with these changes my friends and WAY MORE PEOPLE will too and the Finals will go on strong. 💪
I think the problem is embark is trying too hard to get a piece of the pie from these other games with casuals while alienating their core audience. They look at just the pure numbers and get to
worried about falling off, i'm sure next season there will be a spike of overall players but the problem is casuals never stay; I see this all the time with fighting game, devs make the game more approachable for newer players but end up alienating their core audience and the game dies in a year or two. You need to build a stable foundation of an audience that will keep your game afloat and as new content is being added to the game, casual players will get interested and over time numbers will rise. No one will stay to play diet csgo when csgo exists.
Also I don't believe that Bs about cashout being taken out because of balance, it makes no sense if you think about it for two seconds. How are you supposed to balance it with no one currently playing it? there's no way to predict how a meta will form, it will be just as broken if it comes out again as it is now.
I do enjoy terminal attack oddly enough
TA boriiiiiing anyone complaining go play counterstike
I think it’s boring when it’s played solo but queuing with a 5 team on discord would definitely change the trajectory on team dynamics something that the finals lacks when it comes to solo queuing
i think the reasoning for changing the ranked mode is valid. Cash out needed to be changed and become more balanced. but i think they chose the wrong mode to replace it. I think power shift is a much more comp ready gamemode than ta is. power shift is already fairly well balanced as there are counters to everything and it provides a pure and fast paced version of the finals and, in my opinion, the most fun gamemode that the finals has to offer.
Quick cash being ranked makes more sense in hindsight over cashout less dead time and no team sitting with a cashout alone for 2 minutes
To be honest I think most people are just scared that this game will die but we haven’t even played season 3 yet TA could be better than we thought
Tbh I hated terminal attack so much I played like 4 games to give it a shot and hated it so much I just stopped.
im not gonna wait a whole season to play the mode that I love competitively. The finals just striped its own identity. When I first saw the first ever trailer for the game I instantly fell in love because it was something different. When I first played ranked I was hooked. The finals should fix what they have instead of adding new "game modes". U need to have a strong foundation for the game to flourish and thrive. This next season should've been the peek for this game, but instead it mostly likely be flop because the foundation for the game is not strong. Don't get me wrong tac fps's are great but it does not fit with the finals. The reason why I enjoy this game is because of the way the game flows and the way it plays. I've played valorant for 3 years grinded to immortal and that was the most boring thing I've ever done in my life. In this game I grinded to diamond and it was so fun, yes their were times that weren't but that was because embark can't balance heavy and light.
I think The Finals shozld do something similiar to what CS 2 did. Having a cs rating for premier mode and also the normal "ranks" for competetive mode. So I think the best outcome should be 2 ranked versions. One with terminal attack and one with normal cashout. What do you think?
ranked terminal attack is just going to be rpg turret sniper sim, im not looking forward to it
This feels like more of a desperation play than a carefully considered plan to me. I hope I’m wrong and you’re right because I love this game. I won’t lie this has shaken my previous confidence in Embark… a lot.
And this just goes to show you how people's minds work when they just decide to have an opinion, The same players who complained about the respond times and cash out all of a sudden I have no issue waiting 2 possibly 3 minutes for another round of terminal attack to start
Even though this kinda sucks big time, It isn't a huge deal breaker cuz I still play casually, I trust embark to know what they're doing and I'm not going anywhere. I'd rather have my small dedicated fan base until it gets huge.
But but but proplayers have to cry over every smallest change in meta or gameplay. I'm still salty that because of the crying proplayers and streamers new fortnite season got literally nerfed every single new thing that they added this season got nerfed because pro sweats couldn't do their only tactic called Box and pump, I saw streamers crying that stuff is too op but instead of shooting guy he was only bulding and building, he died withou shooting even once and cried that new stuff is too strong, so now everything is slower and does less dmg which kinda killed new season for me and like 80-90% of people
What a let down, I hate Terminal Attack too. 🤦♂️
If you don't like an SND, CS, or Val type mode, you're just screwed like me. They can make a little twist with like 3 stocks or something but it would still be meh. btw, I do think TA ranked should be an option for people that prefer tactical shooter but we should have cashout ranked also. A whole season of not having it in ranked is gonna hurt though if they are doing it only to "improve" the mode.
Also, what if the playerbase tries it then the finals drops by 2k-3k players, Embark could revert it but they aren't instantly getting those players back
I already uninstalled the game and not looking back until they go back on this. I already hit diamond and got everything I wanted, but this isn’t the game I fell in love with.
@@SaVage_ShiftzZ its not that deep
@@Poptartdweller It most definitely is.
We don't fking want another basic shooter.
Cash out is the chaos that makes the game fun
@@memerpro2653 Pop tart dweller has bought every Call of Duty at full price there's no saving people like him😂😂
To me? Terminal Attack needs the following changes:
- Ranked TA needs to allow respawn.
- Terminal Attack can be tweaked to allow BOTH Terminal Infiltration/Defense scoring AND POINTS FOR KILLS/WIPES. This would change the dynamic to where it then is more sports-like AND competitive level.
- Terminal Attack can also be tweaked for allowing Three Teams of Five. CNS/VAIIYA/ *NEW FACTION*. This way, more lore is added, and balances out to allow for respawn factor mentioned above.
I love Terminal Attack and don’t mind the change
Thanks for the some what positive outlook, because things seem kinda bleek for a strictly ranked tourney player..
theres one thing u kinda dont get in my opinion. u say they have another season and they can buy time, the thing is players wont stay for so long. I honestly want the ruby ak really bad, but i aint forcing myself to play a gamemode that doesnt have anything to do with the game. Its not the reason i like it so much in the first place
I think the fact that there are no killcams (I completely understand why but still) is one major reason I find the game mode so boring. You can go an entire round not seeing anyone and the round will end and you’ll have no idea what happened. Or your entire team is split up while you get jumped by an entire team and there’s nothing you can do because of the lack of healing. It’s just not fun imo. I’m cash out there is almost constant action and fights and last second clutches etc. these games you’ll get like 10 total engagements
I love THE FINALS. One of the things I keep seeing is that the ranked gamemode needs some love. Here is my proposal for an overhauled Terminal Attack. Let's have a healthy discourse instead of just bashing something for not being EXACTLY perfect according to subjective experience.
Bring back Tournament Style. I prefer this because of the increased variety in combat interactions. Each round played so differently because of the different teams present. It also highlights the dynamic gameplay that makes THE FINALS unique.
Slightly increase passive health regen. Grant team wide revive tokens through eliminations. Keep TKO team eliminations and no self-respawn. This rewards playing tactically and allows skilled teams to recover from a bad push or being swept away in a chaotic 3rd party.
The terminal key starts in the terminal, hear me out. At the start of a round, the terminal is neutral. A team claims the terminal to work on their decryption. Each team's decryption progress is independent. The win conditions of a round are either to complete the decryption, OR to eliminate all other teams.
There is a third "Qualifying Condition" given to the team with the second highest score. A team's score is based in money like other modes. This score will passively increase while a team has an active decryption. They can also score points through eliminations.
Instead of stopping a decryption, teams either steal the terminal and begin their own decryption, or enough damage is caused to the terminal itself that the decryption key is ejected and must be reinserted. Doing this causes the active decryption at the time to become corrupted and lose some progress.
Yeah... I hate terminal attack, at first it seem like a cool concept but in a game like finals since the health varies between class and some class has better initial engagement it seem annoying to play to me. Additionally for someone who care about skin I just wish there was a better looking hair and more option for race/ skin, literally been using the same race for the last 2 season...
As an Overwatch player I can confidentially say a singular ranked mode is bad. I don't care what gamemode they pick, I want more formats to appreciate the gunplay. Especially when the TTK is so high in this game, you need more in this game to actually keep player interest. They're also picking THIS mode to put in with nothing else?? The devs seem to have great ideas, basically making a great sport to spectate with cashout originally and the casters are treating it like a real match, its super cool. But they just seem to be incapable of implementing a competitive ladder for the average player, which is kinda wild. Did they fire the guys that had the idea for casters to be in-game like they are? It just makes very little sense to me to see a great understanding of entertaining esports here, and see DOGSHIT there on the topic. I jus dunno, maybe there's a communication issue from the devs or maybe I'm not keeping up with it. Either way, im LOST with what the devs want.
Honestly as long as this isnt a permanent change, and they actually use this opportunity to make cashout better, it could be very good in the long run.
gonna be a rough season for us who love cashout and not tactical shooters we have the tournament mode I guess... If I completely hate TA, I'll probably stop once I hit gold on tournament. Could care less about a few extra multibucks
Totally neglecting the fact that there are still leaderboards for world tour
World Tour Leaderboards are based on time played. There is no elo or win/loss metric. It's exactly the same as the Event Leaderboards we've had now but more official.
Its just play time, its up to how much cash you get. Thats it
Finally someone who understands and says it right😭😭
💯 spoke some facts… cash out is so unique, I don’t think terminal attack as ranked is good especially because it’s like they’re copying csgo or Valorant. We just need more guns and maps and the player base will rise. I hope this doesn’t kill the game but they’ve made too many changes that never did much but cause division
TA is basically just search and destroy
I like this mode tho... It's a better CS:GO type-o-game
i like it, but that it replace old ranked is too much or least too soon. but who know's, still trust devs so don't worry too much 😇👍
@@protoni6996Exactly, this guy gets it
ta makes sense you can play it at a higher level and is more tactical, cash out will come back soon as they said. stop whining
Can you give your opinion on the normal cashout game mode this season
I like Valorant and CS and I think Terminal Attack is good but what they did with it for S3 is wrong. The destruction reset, that you cant throw the key anymore and change to the amount of rounds are all bad
TA ranked is simply a business move. Don’t see any other explanation that is holistically rationale.
Did people like Terminal Attack more or why would they make it a ranked gamemode? I enjoy the grind in ranked but with Cashout. I guess i can swap to valorant now
My main issue is choosing where to put my attention: the world tour, where I feel comfortable but I won't feel progress nor prestige, or the ranked mode wich is, as you called it, a snooze fest. But at least I'll be ranking up?
I guess we'll have to find out.
Why would you play a mode you know you don't like.. also doesn't world tour have progression?
it seems like there will actually be progress and prestige in world tour
Hey. I’m mad at the change myself and just like ottr, I only recently cool down.
Now listen. I’m diamond 1 and top 300
And after this change
I will probably play the TA rank and grind it to as high as I can
But that is only when I have fun playing it,
So if the the new rework TA still a pain for me then nahh
I’m sticking to world tour where I know I will have the most joy out of this game
I advise you do the same
@@taawesome2949 💯
@@taawesome2949 yeah that's my plan too.
This game needs nothing but love and support
The only reason The Finals is not up there with apex is because people play whatever the hell is popular on Twitch or whatever top Twitch streamers are playing. If the marketing team for the finals would just pay a few top Twitch streamers and UA-camrs to only stream THE FINALS for 2 weeks or 1 week at the least, The finals would be the top 5 games watched on Twitch and the top 5 f2p fps multiplayer games with a huge following.
I suggest adding a choice between cashout and therminal atack modes in the ranked. And in this case there will be two scales of progress. if you like to criticize the game, then be able to offer ideas
Honestly if you break down TA vs cashout to its core, it is very similar, almost like "cousins" in terms of gameplay.
You have an objective that you have to take somewhere, and defend it. (This is where they are the same, overlapping in a vinn diagram)
Lifes, revives, team size, etc is where they differ.
Not only do I think that TA belongs in the game, but my guess is that Embark will continue to add modes that involve carrying and defending objectives. Halo's oddball or capture the flag come to mind (with Embark's spin, how they did with Power Shift)
Yeah, and both modes have guns that shoot people. Also both modes have grenades. They're essentially the same gamemode.
The way I look at this is like COD, you eliminate players and maybe plant a "bomb", the biggest problem for me is that you can not heal. Thank god they added world tour.
I'm thinking they'll need to add respawn credits or something for TA.. They can't leave it as is for competitive mode.
The thing that fucking kills me is that if you leave on the victory screen, you still get penalized! Like...why? The game is already over! WHY DO YOU GET PENALIZED FOR LEAVING WHEN THE GAME IS ALREADY DECIDED?!
It’s to fix your TikTok attention span
@@cloudboy08 Having to wait extra 5 seconds doesn't fix anything, what sense does that make?
Honestly ottr i don’t know if you’re going too see this but I’ve played TA and I can’t say I love it but I also can’t say I hate it, the thing is though I can see where you’re coming from with the slow thing, I feel like they should def increase the player count for each team to 6v6 to kinda make the gamemode feel a little more lively and then you could have it where each team has 2 of each class, another thing is I think that with the way the mode is you’re definitely going to have to have some type of gadget/ability ban system in place so that it’s not complete aids with certain things being spammed.
But that's the point, we don't want another shooter
We want The Finals.
Chalk it up to not being the change we wanted, but needed.
I believe that the "Terminal Attack" mode should not be ranked... This is not a bad mode for "quick play", it is tactical, requires concentration, composure and jewelry actions. However, it doesn’t have all that frantic dynamics and excitement, which is why I love this game.
In the "Cash out" mode, your pulse rises, your blood boils, you really feel like you are a participant in a major show, in which not just victory is at stake, but a big win and the public's aviation!!!
P.S.
I hope they don't turn The Finals into a standard and boring team shooter. In the "Great and Large VR Show" there is no need for shootouts in a couple of seconds like in "Terminal Attack". It should have frantic and protracted shootouts, lasting minutes, for the sake of money and fame!!!!
Bro just wanna say stuff
Both can co-exist. TA makes sense as a ranked mode
edit: I'm not even a person who likes TA much but since I love this game, I'll give ranked a try. Not into the genre that TA ranked is though... I'd rather go old school with a TDM, CTF, type ranked than TA
what game is bro yapping about, shootouts end in 3 seconds because a light with throwing knives and dash team wipes you, no prolonging there
@@Kodaiva There is a healing beam and defibrillators. Now the fight is longer than a couple of seconds, so go somewhere else...
thanks for voicing this, big guy
I just don't understand why we can't have both though. Two ranked gamemodes with two different leaderboards. Is it about the rewards at the end of the season? About making two different versions of those, each related to its own mode? I'm fine with having one, the way it is now, and them being unlocked based off your highest rank between these two. Are you a cashout gold and terminal attack bronze? Here are your gold ones. Cashout silver but terminal attack top 500? Get your ruby then.
RIP Ranked... Didn't make Diamond Season 2, got up to Plat 1 then life got in the way with 6 days left. I don't think I'll bother continuing to try to grind for it since they mentioned they won't bring the diamond FCAR back again. It's already scuffed with it being too much RNG based and gets even worse with solo-queue allowing people from extremely low ranks going into high ranked lobbies. GG...
you gota be trolling
@@fadedxwilson947 Not trolling at all, this game is pretty much dead now.
As far as ranked que times: Oceana would have games if it was region locked.
Oce players can’t find games so they que Asia, meaning Oce players can’t find Oce games so they que Aisa, and repeat
I’m still super good. Already nothing to play for for an entire season, and now the main grind is a game mode I don’t care about? Nah, super good.
Power Shift would've been a better choice to change up ranked IMO. I had to force myself to play the minimum number of Terminal Attack games in order to get the rewards. Haven't touched that game mode since.
power shift is awfully balanced. also, as mentioned in the video, making terminal attack the ranked might be a part of the promo campaign, so the newcomers would get into the game more easily, since it's the most modern-fps-like gamemode in the game.
@@awwfulguy Unbalanced is easier to fix than unfun.
Personally I’ve never understood the appeal of the CS/SnD type game modes, whichever game it’s in. Anyone of you who likes this mode can enlighten me?
It has competitive integrity, it’s team v team so no griefing from outside teams. It’s strategic so team communication is vital. Players don’t just add value with kills but utility and communication which is why it’s a competitive mode that really resonates with casual players. And those clutch moments get so intense where you’re defending site in a 1v2/3. Even though kills aren’t the only way to add value, they are still a way to play objective so it’s suited for both objective based players and kill based players
Terminal Attack is the exact kind of game mode that I hate the most. I like constant motion and chaos which is exactly what I came to the finals for. Once you die in the round you're just sitting there bored. No thank you. I'll stick to the other modes.
I genuinely, sincerely can't see the issue. We have 2 ranked modes now, one being even more lore friendly with what the final is and we get to keep terminal attack with the other. I'm sure if world tour was exactly the same but renamed to plain "ranked" no one would be complaining.
I call bs
This will most definitely end this game that I so love.
Cash out is the chaos that separates the finals from other basic shooters.
Who cares if it isn't competitive enough it succeeds in the only thing that is important.
"It is fun"
Edit:
I should've let embark cook.
The new explanation by oscar looks lit
Exactly 😢 embark who makes the decisions? Nexon? Don’t change this unique game… I’m not the best at it but I love ranked cash out…
Is this "experiment" worth the potential drop off of 3k-4k players and the unlikely high growth of players for TA? I hope they considered that
I like terminal attack for ranked which is a mode that should be hard competitive you shouldn’t be able to just regen health or rez in a mode where you are competing to be the best player or achieve the highest rank. I feel like the people who enjoy cash out for ranked forget that it’s ranked ranked should feel very different from casuals @ it’s current state I can’t tell the difference between ranked and casual. Especially with the fact that a lot of higher ranks are just as good or worse than lower ranks. Terminal will also let people use what they want to the best of their ability where as cashout promotes heavy n medium terminal promotes everyone new players are gonna like that freedom. And with search and destroy being so popular also things like valorant n siege or csgo I think this will only benefit the game. Also make for some very nice terminal clutch up clips.
I kinda feel like the dwindling player numbers is kind of a nil point, because It’s the end of the season.