I'm so glad my Dad drilled safety into my head at such a young age. At the time, I thought he was over doing it, but now I understand his motive and taught my kids the same way.
Not a new shooter, but I watch things like this with an open mind. Experience shows that complacency and overconfidence are as hazardous as ignorance or "noobs." Some self aware "noobs" are more concient than those who get comfortable with cutting corners, and should not be ridiculed as "safety-boys." When I hear someone call someone else a "safety-boy," I know to watch that person, because they're probably lackadaisical, ignorant, or overconfident.
Great stuff. I've actually seen an accidental discharge at an intermediate course by a guy that had a custom trigger, a true malfunction. You can never be too careful.
The outdoor range I go to has a lot of newbies on the weekends. When they are there I am constantly watching them and can't truly enjoy my experience. Think I'm gonna start going on a slow day. Thanks for the video! Everyone new at shooting should watch this!
I'd like to add to this. Especially with atypical malfunctions, always remember to clear your gun before going any further. When it's something that requires more attention than just a tap rack, it's almost natural to start immediately troubleshooting the firearm itself in order to "work through" the drill/exercise. And sometimes that means forgetting to remove the source of ammo and clearing the chamber first in trying to diagnose quickly. I learned this the hard way, so make sure the first thing you always do is clear your firearms first before re-holstering/any detailed inspection of your firearm following a malfunction. -Aaron
I've aided in several CCW classes, and I've seen some really close calls, never take your eyes off those on the line with you, be aware of those coming to the line behind you, I have turned around to folks pointing that gun down range "being safe" as not all instructors allow holsters fearing a student could shoot themselves, holstering the or unholstering firearm.
You’re a natural at this, Miles. Teaching and shooting seems to come very natural to you. I always get the feeling that you are coming from a position of concern and safety instead of someone who simply wants to hear or see themselves in front of the camera. I learn something new every time another Tactical Hyve video comes down the pike. Thanks
It always made sense to me, when carrying appendix with a single clip Kydex holster, that you just pop the holster off real quick, re-holster the firearm in a safe direction, then pop the holstered firearm back on.
Outstanding safety video. THANK YOU ! Speaking about each potential "problem" and demonstrating it is the best way to teach. I'm sure as a novice (40 years ago) I made some of these mistakes. Thankfully with no unintentional discharges. At the local indoor range, on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon, ALL of these beginner mistakes happen.
Brass dance to re-holstering, I thought you were going to talk about hasty re-holstering in addition to flagging. I was thinking ground or table the weapon in a safe direction, remove the brass, and then recover the weapon. I see the brass dance happening more often at those cattle pin indoor shooting ranges. The kind of place where there are inadequate brass deflecting partitions or brass bounces off a partition and back onto the shooter. This is one of the reasons why I never go to those places. Although to address the hot brass you can usually just table the weapon right there in front of you. Outdoor grounding the weapon might not work so well. Greatest risk might be malfunctions from dirt and sand ingress, but there's that slim chance someone drops the gun just right and blamo.
Safety is also a generational and peer thing. Those who scoff at safety because they "know what they're doing" are the same ones who scoff at hunters safety, although admittedly, that program is a shadow of what it was 20 and more years ago. I encountered a wide culture recently involved in a youth new-shooter program in Texas, that instead on ensuring all rifles were unloaded before checking and changing targets simply had the kids put them on safe. When I interceeded to say that this is not how this is done, I was told it takes too much time to unload and reload the rifles. ...me and mine, outta there!
Pointing your hip is familiar and I try to help people to get rid of it. Especially if problems with flexibility. My dad is 75 old and not at all flexible so we fix it with couple of ways: little bit lower holster and precise movement range for gun. But most important is just show people that they are pointing their body and most fix it right away :D Thanks for great videos and greetings from Finland!
I’ve always treated ‘knowing the status of your weapon’ as the fifth safety rule, and I’ve always been unsure why it wasn’t recited as much as the other four.
We would get condition checks from WSO’s on our ship all the dang time. Idk why weapons conditions aren’t taught to everyone right alongside the 4 Rules either brother. If you don’t know what Condition 1 means, GTFO my range 😬
Through the course of training, people are taught to know the status of their firearm, that's why the instructors are there. The reason why the 4 conditions are no longer taught probably has something to do with the fact that most people are not a boomer that carries a 1911. Condition 1 doesn't apply to most modern handguns, or revolvers. Condition 2 does not apply to most modern handguns. Condition 3 is only going to be used by people who shouldn't be carrying a handgun anyway. Condition 4 nowadays is usually called show clear. The world has changed. Kids no longer include home ownership in their American Dream, and the four conditions are no longer relevant.
Great points. Reading and memorizing the 4 rules isn't enough - you have to realize that they are easy to bust as a beginner. You have to develop pro discipline with that muzzle. Your fifth point is like a derivative of "the gun is always loaded."
Yes, that was good, thank you. My wife won’t go to the gun range because she is uncomfortable hold a gun around people not to mention people do these bad habits. Yes I call them bad habits. That was what my instructor called them in Boy Scouts in 1974.
Great respect for your videos! I learn something new most always and appreciate your wisdom and experience. Some may consider my following comment too critical, however, for the sake of everyone and safety here goes… When demonstrating how not to re-holster, it would be better if you used a “Plastic” or “fake” pistol. Although you know the status of your pistol, you should still never point it at something you don’t intend to destroy. Even for Demonstrations purposes. Someone may think, let me show you what I learned re-holstering and may not have cleared the pistol and have finger discipline.
Helpful! If you need people left and right of you, just clone yourself, it's fun. What I see with intermediate shooters is that they get to a different event and don't realize that some rules may be different from where they been the previous weekend or at their club when they're not at the stage yet. Where to load/unload, clean&fix, where they can walk safely, 180s. Everyone wants to look professional but better not ask when one is unsure. Asking for directions from the match makers is what pros would do if they're unsure or to ask via mail before the match if something isn't clear and if something was changed when they get there.
I don't have much experience, but I've been told that trying to catch a dropped gun is extremely dangerous. If it fumble falls out of your hand, let it fall to the ground. Do *not* try to catch it.
The first lesson, I would argue to not reholster the gun because there's a good chance of a A.D because he/she is in a rush & moving around. There is a extremely high of causing a self-inflicted wound. I was say just bear the pain. just hold out bear the pain it will be over in a few seconds. The new shooters (my friends) I brought out, just sucked up the pain when it did happen (Not often at all)
Shooters definitely have to suck it up while they move their gun to a secure location, e.g. holster, table, etc. There is always the chance someone can shoo themselves when reholstering- at any time-the key is they shouldn’t panic and move deliberately.
I saw a young man fire one shot from his 22lr revolver and yelp pretty good . Lucky it was a 22 , don’t put your hand where the hot stuff comes out . If it had been 357 or 44 you can lose some meat .
It appears so but can't say for sure from the camera angle. When someone who carries appendix does not consciously touch their holster as he does 5:24, it is common to see people slightly flag oneself because of the position of the holster.
Not sure correlate is the right word… Most accidents happen when drawing and reholstering. Once holstered, there are not nearly as many negligent or accidental discharges. One can holster their gun without flagging themselves, though with appendix it comes close.
One of the biggest things the shooting community does is blowing things way out of proportion. The best example is "flagging". If you have your finger off the trigger it doesn't matter if you flag yourself or your buddy the gun will not go off by itself. In fact it happens all the time in war/combat so I tend to not care at all.
This isn't war/combat where people who are in war are trained, i.e. not your average shooter. And one's finger off the trigger isn't enough, there are documented cases of very experienced shooters shooting themselves with their finger off the trigger. They were surprised/caught off guard and a natural reaction is to clench (your fist). When that happens, the trigger finger will naturally curl up and it can break a shot.
You are correct, and that’s exactly why both trigger and muzzle discipline are part of basic gun safety. The rules are designed to be redundant so that if you break one, you’re covered by at least one of the others. We all have fluke mess ups at some point, and if you’re only relying on trigger discipline that day, you might end up with a serious situation.
My 2 cents are. There's is no reason, what so ever, to ever point/flag another person. NON. Unless it's absolutely 100% necessary and can not be avoided in any way. Great video.
I'm so glad my Dad drilled safety into my head at such a young age. At the time, I thought he was over doing it, but now I understand his motive and taught my kids the same way.
These videos should be a MUST WATCH before starting any handgun training classes.
Not a new shooter, but I watch things like this with an open mind. Experience shows that complacency and overconfidence are as hazardous as ignorance or "noobs."
Some self aware "noobs" are more concient than those who get comfortable with cutting corners, and should not be ridiculed as "safety-boys."
When I hear someone call someone else a "safety-boy," I know to watch that person, because they're probably lackadaisical, ignorant, or overconfident.
Great stuff. I've actually seen an accidental discharge at an intermediate course by a guy that had a custom trigger, a true malfunction. You can never be too careful.
The outdoor range I go to has a lot of newbies on the weekends. When they are there I am constantly watching them and can't truly enjoy my experience. Think I'm gonna start going on a slow day. Thanks for the video! Everyone new at shooting should watch this!
Thanks! Please spread the word. Lots of new shooters and beginners out there.
This guy needs 1 million subscribers. He is really good at what he does, and this channel has been very educational for me.
I'd like to add to this. Especially with atypical malfunctions, always remember to clear your gun before going any further. When it's something that requires more attention than just a tap rack, it's almost natural to start immediately troubleshooting the firearm itself in order to "work through" the drill/exercise. And sometimes that means forgetting to remove the source of ammo and clearing the chamber first in trying to diagnose quickly. I learned this the hard way, so make sure the first thing you always do is clear your firearms first before re-holstering/any detailed inspection of your firearm following a malfunction. -Aaron
Great video, Myles! Had an experience with half of these things at a gun shop here locally...how are people so unaware of this?
Thanks! One big reason is not enough time behind the gun at a range.
I've aided in several CCW classes, and I've seen some really close calls, never take your eyes off those on the line with you, be aware of those coming to the line behind you, I have turned around to folks pointing that gun down range "being safe" as not all instructors allow holsters fearing a student could shoot themselves, holstering the or unholstering firearm.
You’re a natural at this, Miles. Teaching and shooting seems to come very natural to you. I always get the feeling that you are coming from a position of concern and safety instead of someone who simply wants to hear or see themselves in front of the camera. I learn something new every time another Tactical Hyve video comes down the pike. Thanks
It always made sense to me, when carrying appendix with a single clip Kydex holster, that you just pop the holster off real quick, re-holster the firearm in a safe direction, then pop the holstered firearm back on.
Very good safety information as I have witnessed these mistakes myself as a firearms instructor.
I love the pointing out on making sure you don't point the gun towards yourself while holstering. Great heads up on that point.
Outstanding safety video. THANK YOU ! Speaking about each potential "problem" and demonstrating it is the best way to teach. I'm sure as a novice (40 years ago) I made some of these mistakes. Thankfully with no unintentional discharges.
At the local indoor range, on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon, ALL of these beginner mistakes happen.
Great info for all levels of shooter...
Helpful info! Thanks!
Thank you Miles your the man !
Brass dance to re-holstering, I thought you were going to talk about hasty re-holstering in addition to flagging.
I was thinking ground or table the weapon in a safe direction, remove the brass, and then recover the weapon. I see the brass dance happening more often at those cattle pin indoor shooting ranges. The kind of place where there are inadequate brass deflecting partitions or brass bounces off a partition and back onto the shooter. This is one of the reasons why I never go to those places. Although to address the hot brass you can usually just table the weapon right there in front of you.
Outdoor grounding the weapon might not work so well. Greatest risk might be malfunctions from dirt and sand ingress, but there's that slim chance someone drops the gun just right and blamo.
Safety is also a generational and peer thing. Those who scoff at safety because they "know what they're doing" are the same ones who scoff at hunters safety, although admittedly, that program is a shadow of what it was 20 and more years ago.
I encountered a wide culture recently involved in a youth new-shooter program in Texas, that instead on ensuring all rifles were unloaded before checking and changing targets simply had the kids put them on safe.
When I interceeded to say that this is not how this is done, I was told it takes too much time to unload and reload the rifles.
...me and mine, outta there!
great video and info, thank you. Never heard of Tactical Hyve before, will be checking out some other videos.
Welcome!
Pointing your hip is familiar and I try to help people to get rid of it. Especially if problems with flexibility. My dad is 75 old and not at all flexible so we fix it with couple of ways: little bit lower holster and precise movement range for gun. But most important is just show people that they are pointing their body and most fix it right away :D
Thanks for great videos and greetings from Finland!
I’ve always treated ‘knowing the status of your weapon’ as the fifth safety rule, and I’ve always been unsure why it wasn’t recited as much as the other four.
We would get condition checks from WSO’s on our ship all the dang time. Idk why weapons conditions aren’t taught to everyone right alongside the 4 Rules either brother. If you don’t know what Condition 1 means, GTFO my range 😬
Your weapon is always loaded, if it is not disassembled and clean rod is coming out of both end of the barrel.
Through the course of training, people are taught to know the status of their firearm, that's why the instructors are there.
The reason why the 4 conditions are no longer taught probably has something to do with the fact that most people are not a boomer that carries a 1911.
Condition 1 doesn't apply to most modern handguns, or revolvers.
Condition 2 does not apply to most modern handguns.
Condition 3 is only going to be used by people who shouldn't be carrying a handgun anyway.
Condition 4 nowadays is usually called show clear.
The world has changed.
Kids no longer include home ownership in their American Dream, and the four conditions are no longer relevant.
Wow thank you! Good points.
Great points. Reading and memorizing the 4 rules isn't enough - you have to realize that they are easy to bust as a beginner. You have to develop pro discipline with that muzzle.
Your fifth point is like a derivative of "the gun is always loaded."
Completely agree!
Great video and thank you
Thanks for the tips
Great tips and reminders.
Good advice
Yes, that was good, thank you. My wife won’t go to the gun range because she is uncomfortable hold a gun around people not to mention people do these bad habits. Yes I call them bad habits. That was what my instructor called them in Boy Scouts in 1974.
Excellent video
Good topic 👍🏿
Great respect for your videos! I learn something new most always and appreciate your wisdom and experience. Some may consider my following comment too critical, however, for the sake of everyone and safety here goes… When demonstrating how not to re-holster, it would be better if you used a “Plastic” or “fake” pistol. Although you know the status of your pistol, you should still never point it at something you don’t intend to destroy. Even for Demonstrations purposes. Someone may think, let me show you what I learned re-holstering and may not have cleared the pistol and have finger discipline.
It is useful video
Thanks 🌹
Excellent instruction!! Bro!!
The three p's!!
Practice practice practice!!😊👍
Wow informative
Helpful! If you need people left and right of you, just clone yourself, it's fun.
What I see with intermediate shooters is that they get to a different event and don't realize that some rules may be different from where they been the previous weekend or at their club when they're not at the stage yet. Where to load/unload, clean&fix, where they can walk safely, 180s. Everyone wants to look professional but better not ask when one is unsure. Asking for directions from the match makers is what pros would do if they're unsure or to ask via mail before the match if something isn't clear and if something was changed when they get there.
Most definitely. If unsure of anything, it never hurts to ask--even the best will and do. Thanks for posting.
I don't have much experience, but I've been told that trying to catch a dropped gun is extremely dangerous. If it fumble falls out of your hand, let it fall to the ground. Do *not* try to catch it.
The first lesson, I would argue to not reholster the gun because there's a good chance of a A.D because he/she is in a rush & moving around. There is a extremely high of causing a self-inflicted wound. I was say just bear the pain. just hold out bear the pain it will be over in a few seconds.
The new shooters (my friends) I brought out, just sucked up the pain when it did happen (Not often at all)
Shooters definitely have to suck it up while they move their gun to a secure location, e.g. holster, table, etc.
There is always the chance someone can shoo themselves when reholstering- at any time-the key is they shouldn’t panic and move deliberately.
Lesson 3 in the beginning list of rules says "of the trigger" instead of "off the trigger." Just wanted you to know. And thank you for these videos!
Thanks!
Where can we get a hive hat ?
I ALWAYS know the status of my weapon. It is ALWAYS loaded!
Do you fill your lungs or empty them and hold your breath before releasing the shot?
I saw a young man fire one shot from his 22lr revolver and yelp pretty good . Lucky it was a 22 , don’t put your hand where the hot stuff comes out . If it had been 357 or 44 you can lose some meat .
#4 sounds like a great way to also catch some hot brass.
Did you just flag yourself at 7:02 ??? 🤔
It appears so but can't say for sure from the camera angle. When someone who carries appendix does not consciously touch their holster as he does 5:24, it is common to see people slightly flag oneself because of the position of the holster.
Your gun is always loaded. Dunno why its so hard for people to just think that way.
If you get the hot brass, embrace it. Learn to love it!
How does rule # 2 correlate with carrying appendix ? Seems like an oxymoron to me.
Not sure correlate is the right word…
Most accidents happen when drawing and reholstering. Once holstered, there are not nearly as many negligent or accidental discharges. One can holster their gun without flagging themselves, though with appendix it comes close.
😂😂😂😂😂
100% on accidental discharge
Brass dance make firearm safe and finger out of trigger guard, I have a firearm not a weapon the bad guy has the weapon.
LETS GO BRANDON!!!
One of the biggest things the shooting community does is blowing things way out of proportion. The best example is "flagging". If you have your finger off the trigger it doesn't matter if you flag yourself or your buddy the gun will not go off by itself. In fact it happens all the time in war/combat so I tend to not care at all.
This isn't war/combat where people who are in war are trained, i.e. not your average shooter.
And one's finger off the trigger isn't enough, there are documented cases of very experienced shooters shooting themselves with their finger off the trigger.
They were surprised/caught off guard and a natural reaction is to clench (your fist). When that happens, the trigger finger will naturally curl up and it can break a shot.
You are correct, and that’s exactly why both trigger and muzzle discipline are part of basic gun safety.
The rules are designed to be redundant so that if you break one, you’re covered by at least one of the others. We all have fluke mess ups at some point, and if you’re only relying on trigger discipline that day, you might end up with a serious situation.
My 2 cents are. There's is no reason, what so ever, to ever point/flag another person. NON. Unless it's absolutely 100% necessary and can not be avoided in any way. Great video.
#TRUMP4EVA
It looks like you [talking head] are drunk or high. Don't handle or shoot a gun if you have been using drugs or alcohol 48 hr. .
You couldn’t be more wrong.
bro types this while drunk AND high, making no type of sense 😂 video was great and very helpful, thanks 👍🏽