This is the absolute BEST reaction to SKZflix I have seen because 1) you asked the right questions in right order 2) you picked up all the significant hints, 3) you drew all the same conclusions that more lore-aware STAY came to as well. Thank you SO much for this one 😊
So many connections and ties to other mv’s that you read in the live responses. Genius to make you go back and watch other songs to catch this meaning. “Who’s Yongbok.” Still kills me.
Lee Know runs back to Felix at the end, but he does not seem to “see” Felix (if you notice Lee Know has no reaction and he looks off to the side of Felix). Also, in the last scene Felix appears to have some bruises, and he also appears to not recognize Lee Know (at the very beginning Lee Know did not recognize Felix and asked “who?”). My theory is that when Lee Know runs back to Felix he enters another dimension where maybe Felix is the one in need of help, and Lee Know is the “visitor”. Basically they jump from dimensions to dimensions helping each other (I.N has jumped before and that is why he is able to have some interaction with Felix, but nobody else really interacts with Felix except for Lee Know and the brief moment w/I.N). Hyunjin also behaves throughout the short movie as if he knows something, and he is the only one running after Lee Know at the end, maybe in the attempt to stop him from entering another dimension. But, Hyunjin does not reach Lee Know in time, and Lee Know is the only one that goes into the new dimension where the “other Felix” is. If you watch the SKZFLIX preview all the members say something like “no matter where we are we’ll find you”. Love your reactions to SKZ. Also notable is the blowing of the candle at the beginning and the end of the short movie (you can hear the inhale and exhale) which happens in prior videos that are part of this lore (a way to wish yourself to another parallel world maybe?).
Ooohhh I missed the candle blow, that's so cool! I love how we get to have so many inputs in this and find new things every watch through because of someone else's take/view of it.
Something that caught my eye with the coffee milk is that Felix says I.N. and not Jeongin. Everyone is referred by their actual names and not their stage name. And we know that I.N. is special in the lore, he instantly reacts to his stage name when he shouldn’t have. 31:09
there's an official video in their channel that explains the lore!! it's 'stray kids prequel' and in it, it basically narrates everything that happened in the prequel (hellevator to levanter) hyunjin, lee know, and jeongin are the only ones who have a monster persona in the lore... lee know as a cat in christmas evel, jeongin as pipi in case 143, and hyunjin as the octopus in sclass.. for lee know, he's a villain in other jype groups' mvs which is connected too.. so there's a lot to take in but if you saw nmixx's dice, you'll get it.. the reason why as you said there are only three of them is because they're the ones who broke the rule of traveling in the lore, they basically did a lot, switching worlds, traveling back in a certain point in time.. and even in the main lore, there are two universes existing let's say there's a first world and second world.. jeongin from the first world got separated accidentally from his friends and brought himself to the other world.. that's why im some mvs he would look sad and lonely because of what happened to him.. that's why in skzflix he could interact with felix.. it's like it allows him to have that certain knowledge/ awareness because of what happened to him in a different universe and yes the scars means a lot too! it means they traveled in a particular universe, you could also see it on scars, easy, thunderous, double knot but specifically in levanter.. the three of them are together in a scene which is really important in the lore.. but in other way, both felix and lee know are like the twins of some sort in the universe.. if felix felt something, he would too.. their decision affects each other that's why the marks appeared in the first place... they are interconnected also jeongin in his recent live confirmed that mixtape oh and skzflix parallels to each other.. that would mean the mixtape mvs, including bme, and the view are a whole different world that parallels to skzflix!! that's all i have to say and i know this is a lot 😭 but this is all just my theory!! and i love the reaction tho, i really love to see other peple talks about film bcs i love it too.. thank you for the knowledge!!
Woah woah woah! There are monsters versions? I never connected Hunyjin to the Octopus! Now I gotta go watch the others. Honestly I just need to binge watch all their mv now and see about finding more bread crumb trails left about. Thank you for lighting the spark/need to do that with your well thought out explanation!
@@arikearl014 yes and its really cool!!! and in sclass (timestamp is 2:43) in the scene where the octopus was attacking the soldiers, felix accidentally traveled to a different universe which is a hint for skzflix!!
I love that u have a similar view on their lore/skz flicks...I strongly believe it's as 'simple' as all the different choices each of them could make along their life journey that sometimes interconnect cross over etc but they all become aware of this here and there with glimpses to the other life stories...but there's some things that would definitely suggest there's more to it...felix possibly being like a guardian somehow to help them all along their way with their life dreams and to bring them all on the same path/timeline...but all this leads to pretty much endless infinite stories they could keep coming up with which would be kind of genius...it's almost a neverending story! I feel all the unveils, from debut for each album play a part in the storyline too
It helps if you watch the teaser for SKZFLIX and the unveil for Leave as well. They don't seem to be so much teasers, as part of the story as a whole. Leave unveil is like Mixtape: OH, with Felix reminiscing about the past and his wish for the future. Hyunjin seems to be having dejevu when he sees Lee Know. He seems to vaguely recognise him, and throws the basketball to him like in B Me Unveil, and is disappointed when he misses because that is not what he 'remembers'. He runs after Lee Know because he also has a vague feeling something is missing.
I right now in college going for a film degree and the fact that a favorite band puts out a little short absolutely excites me mainly because it what I want to do in the future but also because they're doing both of being musicians and actors. They really are starting to become an inspiration for me 😊
Watching your journey through being a baby Stay has been really fun for me. You are not far off our own journey.. bc a few months ago, I made the dive into “this” in bonding time reacting to the long SKZ intro on my daughters YT channel..(which i won’t mention out of respect unless you ask). This is how we found out she had a channel, was a Stay , and we even discovered that she taught herself Korean to understand better. So, I dragged my hubby into Survival, Kingdom, and then the music and some SKZ codes and we both became Stay. We also discovered there is SKZ lore ?! with this album release. It’s given my hubby and i a whole new nerd-out. It’s like realizing we were just under a rock. We are GenXrs .. i honestly don’t think we have known such musical creativity since Pink Floyd. ..? I don’t have any other references to relate to any of the rest of their outreach. (Maybe almost -Swifties?) Stray Kids.. 3 Ratcha’s guidance? maybe all?? My guess is that their “Frankenstein charm” drags JYPE at times.. 😁Whatever. They are just extra special. There’s no way to describe this until you really dig into it. I would love and be all in for you go thru the back-Mvs for this timeline. In what other world would that sentence make sense? Lol. … any whooo. You’ve become my (2nd) favorite reaction for SKZ.. ❤
@@ChristysMollyMaggiesMom As the Sunbae Stay, I am granting you a whole stack of "mom passes". Its heartwarming to see someone taking an interest into what their children (adults are kids too) are doing (so rare these days) & actually looked into what was so interested to her. An then surprise, hearing that you and your husband are now part of the Stay family, wonderful.. here's a couple of passes for him too.. lol
@@Resistance_Is_Futile1of3 Lol..thanks (and a bow..) She was our intro, but now we are all in. we just ordered our light sticks with the new album and some tshirts .. My hubby got a Felix hoodie .. he said.. “if i can wear a Mahomes jersey, then i can rep Felix” 💖 It’s honestly been so much fun for us . These boys are special .. and Stay everywhere have been so welcoming and awesome. So far, I’m OT8, and Stay is my bias… .. (although LeeKnow might be the wrecker..js) 🫰🏻❤️🫶🏻 …again, Thank you.
@@ChristysMollyMaggiesMom I must say that learn about SKZ has cause me to adjust my critical thinking & allow myself to enjoy music again. I don't have a Stay family like yours (or either a K-Pop friendly close by) so I am 3rd wheeling it on the YT comment sections. I also found welcoming Stay and enjoy interacting via YT with them. Chan (Ult-respect) has my full attention but plenty of room for 3racha bias & the others.. just depends on which song/album you're listening to at the time. I'm not picky..(I just pick Stray Kids).😄
@@Resistance_Is_Futile1of3 It has been unexpected fun to fan-girl over a group at my age with our 30yr old daughter..🥰 (cherish) .. Isn’t the great thing about Stay... They get you. You’re not alone .
They are the videos that this particular storyline is from but …… right from the start of their career they introduced other universes. End of hellivator you see the other world upside down. District 9 they break out into another district .Then there are the two moons, the doorways and keys from Cle’ series . Levanter and astronaut , double knot and so many other show you references that introduce hints. The upside down universe at start of maniac . Thunderous they are the thunderous ones , IN in freeze and how he always seems to be turning up in different places . I am rewatching all their mv’s again from the start . Of course their are mv’s that don’t seems to be apart of the Skz universes. Oooo I hope we get to watch them with you Roscoe . I love your reactions
This video is just another puzzle piece, and they have left crumbs in most of their videos. If they release a video for Leave, I think it will give us more clues. The MixTape videos will answer some of your questions along with the prologues to albums, like Oddinary. (many of the responses, below/above touch on that) Remember in 5 Star (IN is the only one that says "I am IN" his name). I also think BangChan gave a clue at the MTV Music Awards when he said the maknae (youngest member) is the most powerful.
Yes...to everything you said. And without knowing anything about the lore you're asking all the right questions. I am really looking forward to the Leave MV but now also to you going through the story line!
I've been really looking forward to your review of this. Not disappointing at all. I would love to see a whole series marathon. I think there are 2 felixes based on leave mv teaser.
Wow! It’s amazing you were interested in scenes such as the coffee milk and the basketball scene without watching the 4 previous music videos. They will make more sense when you do, looking forward to your thoughts. One thing… also consider the scene where Hyunjin is looking at the “video applications” on the laptop. I don’t think he is interested in the application as much as the images of Lee Know (keeping in mind the basketball scene) it will make sense when you see the first 3 MVs. Really enjoyed this 🙏
SKZFLIX is a branch-off episode of the Mixtape storyline (Grow Up, On Track, B Me unveil, OH, The View). The split from the storyline as we know it happens at the end of the B Me unveil. In the original version, Lee Know is injured in a car wreck and the group's relationship shatters (SKZ called it their breakup). Then the OH MV picks up shortly afterward -- the friends are broken apart, leaving school and each other behind to go their separate ways, after which they live for quite a while in regret, missing each other and wishing things had happened differently. They eventually start reaching out, and they reunite in The View (they called it their reconciliation). In this new split, the first few seconds are the blurry fire and muffled audio of the car wreck in B Me (the last few seconds are the sound and blurred image of Felix blowing out the candle on the cake that he consistently wishes on throughout the storyline). Theorists keep saying Lee Know died and Felix swapped timelines to save him. He didn't die; that's canon. He was alive and in a cast in OH after B Me. His healing process is one of the ways they show the passage of time in OH. However, the circumstances of the injury _were_ related in some way to the breakup, so it makes perfect sense -- without ignoring canon and manufacturing the idea that Lee Know died in B Me -- that Felix jumped timelines to push the group onto a different path, letting them continue pursuing their shared dreams rather than suffering like they did at the of B Me and in OH, losing all that time and progress together. This storyline is: - 0.5 "Grow Up" (optional; prequel that sets up their relationship; contains recurrent visual/prop details from the rest of the official Mixtape storyline) - 1.0 "On Track" (the beginning of the end) - 2.0 "B Me" unveil track (there is no full mv, but the unveil is an official part of the storyline and contains vital content; as they put it, this is their relationship breakup) - 3.0 "OH" (direct followup to the B Me events, including details like injury; then shows the passage of time from the immediate aftermath and through to a present time where they're more mature and looking back with regret and longing; in their words, this is them regretting their breakup and wishing to get back together) - 4.0 "The View" (as they put it, this is when their wish came true and they reconciled) - 5.0 The brand-new "SKZFLIX" short film, which takes us on an alternative path as Felix jumps multiverses at the end of "B Me" so he can repair the group relationship and give Lee Know the chance to pursue his dream instead of abandoning it like he did in "OH" when the group friendship disintegrated. - These songs and videos are completely unrelated to anything else that says "Mixtape."
Yeah I think that astronaut has a part in it as well. Also I wouldn't draw too much on this new skz-flix yet since I think the leave mv or potentially cover me mv (if we get one) will connect it more. You know, Since this is a complete new world where they met later in life and so on. Also I still think they might give us the full b me mv one day (and it will give us all the answers and that's why they didn't release it back then because it clears too much of the lore up)
Another chapter for the Stayville Library - I found that Stay @ll4reall578 had some early interesting thoughts: I think that SKZFlix is a continuation of the B version of SKZ as students, so I am expecting that they are reminiscing their memories of them being together to make a film, because currently they already graduated (shown in OH MV) and can't see each other as much. Most likely reminiscing will be from "Felix" perspective, hence SKZ "Flix" and SKZFlix as Netflix because they are creating a movie so the word has double meaning, its smart word choice I love it, as expected from SKZ wordplay. I'm wondering will there be glitches or references of SKZ A version as idols or not (that would be interesting). - Even the song "leave" is perfect for the sequel because they made the right choice of being idols so they can "stay" together and recruit "stay" (us) with them, because otherwise if they continued to be students, they will have to eventually "leave" each other side and choose different paths as adults in normal circumstances...
Wow, waiting for Leave now. That's gonna be an interesting journey! I noticed only yellow ticket lore with kids choosing between the different universes.
The fact that you took this seriously enough to ask questions and reacted...but yea its a maze of answers though because the lore is everywhere and some stays are amazing at figuring things out...some of us just enjoy what we see...others just want to know more...but yeah end of bme u csn understand start of this...they are great actors...im interested in the lore to a certain point where i just get confused and overwhelmed...liked this skzflix and want more whether lore in it or not...:) and the comments are helpful as did not realise that the view was part of all this...i just don't like on track much for some reason...
one of things that it seems to me, that I never really hear anyone mention is that at the end when Lee Know finds Yongbok, it would seem like Yongbok can't see Lee Know. He looks lost and confused.
Megaverse MV is out. You should check it out. As for ly analysis of Skfkix, it's like Twin peaks fril david lynch. It's more about thin limits between reality and imagination for a movie using the concept of paralel worlds.it's a recurrent theme in his movies
I hadn't watched the other lore related MV's yet as well, I really enjoyed watching your reaction! I'm not disappointed at all and I was anxious to see your director point of view Let's watch the other mv's ❤❤❤
id really like to see your reaction to the other vids - especially since youre a director. the lore is really interesting but i still dont have a full grasp on it personally
I think an accident occurred some point after the making of the short film and one of them got seriously injured(in the car crash in the unveil:be me mv) and because the other can’t deal with his getting hurt he tries to come back and save him but when he does, he ends up getting hurt. Like they keep trying to save the other.(them being Felix and leeknow)
Honestly idk much about skz lore but my brain is lowkey putting pieces together & somehow recognize the overall theme or like the moral of the story (MV) bc of it 😭. Honestly, it’s always about stay. They love us down Fr. on a deeper level I think Felix is the parallel world representing stay in a way. It’s a fan & celebrity relationship & the only time we see them collectively is when they put on a show for us. Stray kids make it a point to write songs about stay, include stay in MV’s & anything they do. So I think Felix could represent stay. But for the like lore part I think stray kids also internalize a lot. Felix is always like a culprit, confused, or trying to fit in. In back door & maniac lee know is always a curious one. Bang Chan is always watching something or at the crime scene stealing money from a bank😭. It’s such small details but my brain is like putting pieces together.
Maybe its a kind of reference to tv show where Lee Min-ho and Lee Felix were eliminated from the group on the fourth and eighth episode 😢 respectively, but were later brought back in the ninth episode😢
I suspect Side Effects showed this group of SKZ in the cozy bus; but I haven't followed the lore long enough to know for sure. I also believe everyone interacted with Youngbok & using Star Trek/Marvel Sci Fi rules means that only certain people remember once he's disappeared. I feel like Felix interacted with the other members enough to establish that he existed for everyone at one point (for me anyway). I am also okay if all of that is completely wrong!
Yes.. I forgot about that old Star Trek/Marvel Sci-Fi rule: I will remember you if you are implanted in my brain or heart.. or if you are out of phase when the time shift happens.. Nothing wrong with that theory.. works for me too..
My timeline for this is honestly a looped and interferred parallel world where its almost similar to the mobious strip, blurring the beginning and end: 1. Skzflix, assuming Felix is from Mixtape:oh answering Lee Know's actor wish hence Lee know was connected to Seungsung then connecting to the rest of the film group 2. On Track - this world's Yongbok after mixtape:oh felix is gone becoming part of the group. And we saw Hyunjin already having a slight beef with lee know at first, as if he doubts lee know's skills. But they become friends, until the girl. (Makes sense now why I.N took Hyunjin's milk, too hahaha) 3. B Me, totally broken up group. The climax of the conflict 4. Mixtape Oh. We relate the wish of Felix and he couldve gone back similar to when Lee know was seeking Hyunjin and the only way to be together again is try a rerun with SKZFLIX ALL OVER AGAIN 4. But this time, there is a shift with What felix couldve told Lee know or Lee know having more awareness. Besides, hyunjin also chased lee know. Lets assume he caught up, too. And lets say this version, the skzflix, is the success possibility where the good ending is The View 5. The View, many stays say its a false ending he ce the dreamy atmosphere but just like dr. Strange who saw alot of possibilities, we can also say that The View is AN ending where Hyunjin answers Lee know's post it, or answers I.N's call, or I.N who thought of Felix when he wanted to buy Milk in the convenient store triggered the wish hence he could actually be another counterpart of Felix which is why ironically, his lines in the film they were making is "i have to go back" and maybe he succeeded coz he couldve succeeded in redirecting Hyunjin's attention so the love rivalry doesnt happen. Plus as i type this, Roscoe's milk transfer theory makes more sense (as ive integrated). Felix began the wish, the milk which he then gives to I.N as if passing the baton but Hyunjin's love rivalry with Lee know stole the milk. So in the on track, IN tries to get it back but fails. Instead, in Mixtape Oh, his attempts to call hyunjin and the memory of Felix with the milk could have triggered another timeline where IN succeeded in making sure that Hyunjin doesnt antagonize Lee Know and the group doesnt break up (its why in The View, hyunjin and lee know had a door separating them just like the girl, and the only way to make sure they stay together is if Hyunjin and Lee Know doesnt fight
Love the theory and how they tie different points together. I was hoping that the "B Me" MV would magically appear somehow and we can find out more about the fight with Seungmin & I.N and the car accident - why Han was driving and was the female voice in the beginning, the tug-a-war girl interest?
I can't remember what channel but someone made a video not explaining but inputting their opinion on the video and I thought it made sense with the skz lore aswell
I.N is in the wrong universe already -- he was switched in the "Astronaut" MV and thus has been with the wrong set of SKZ for a long time now. (The multiverse concept exists in both this limited storyline and in SKZ's main lore.) He's also always been what they termed "the oracle"; he's kind of a bridge between parallel worlds and is aware of things the others aren't. Thus he can see and interact with Felix here despite being unaware of Felix being from a different timeline. Felix has always been tied to the broken compass, the directionless guide of SKZ, sensitive to the multiverse possibilities. From that same root in the main lore, Hyunjin has always been a tester of realities. He's always been able to sense _something_ off, something not fitting when multiple timelines are interacting or crossing. For most of history, he hasn't known what's going on, but he reacts to it with upset because it feels wrong. In this MV, it's implied that on an unconscious level he's recalling their other timeline -- their relationships and interactions, the history of things like Lee Know being allergic to sports, etc -- and that's what triggers his pauses and extra attention, his acting a bit differently than the others.
Where did you get this info? It's so interesting for sure. I've read another where I.N. is the glitch instead of the oracle because bangchan is the keeper and always has to watch over the glitch which is why in some MVs when I.N is looking back or looking somewhere bangchan is always there. I also heard Hyunjin is the wayfinder?
@@sacred_grove95 IN interacts with Felix (milk), and the shifting eyes are a lying tell when LeeKnow asks about him. There are several videos where it looks like IN is untouched by what is going on around him Social Path is an example
Yes and Lee Know has superpowers too but I think different than Felix's. We saw Felix superpower at the end of the Noisy trailer but he will have them again in Megaverse. I can't remember what Lee Know's superpower is but it's tied to him being the only one awake and aware at times when the others are out of it. Like at the end of Lonely Street and in Venom when everyone else at the table suffers from the poison but Lee Know is not just awake but is standing up. I do think I.N is stuck while Felix and Lee Know can travel between universes. Felix seems to be able to it willingly whenever he wants to, but I'm not sure about Lee Know. This Lee Know in SKZFLIX universe does not seem to know or have the powers of the other Lee Know. People have pointed out Mixtape Felix came to the SKZFLIX universe that Felix came to help Lee Know's dream to become an actor come true. Well, I agree but I think he also came to the SKZFLIX universe to bring all of them together because the group broke apart in the Mixtape universe and The View is Felix's wish. Only a few of them knew each other in the SKZFLIX universe before meeting in order to make the short film for the film festival all because Felix asked Minho to take a walk at the perfect time. I think the Leave MV will be sad because it's Mixtape Felix having to leave his friends after bringing them all together, but the end of SKZFLIX must be showing us that universe's Felix who is about to meet Lee Know and at least in SKZFLIX universe the eight of them can be friends. If that's the case then I need another MV in the Mixtape universe showing me that they have all made up and Felix's dream from The View of them all being together again will become true.
I don't see any follow up video to this where we watch leave or the other videos for the lore! Is it somewhere other than the Stray Kids Playlist? Or has this done been done yet? Because I would Love a longer video where we all watch all of them together and you can talk theories with us. 😢
This is the absolute BEST reaction to SKZflix I have seen because
1) you asked the right questions in right order
2) you picked up all the significant hints,
3) you drew all the same conclusions that more lore-aware STAY came to as well.
Thank you SO much for this one 😊
Agree 100%
The moment he quietly went back to look at Lee Knows face and compare to Felix's face I was like "YES! He did what I did too!" LOL
So many connections and ties to other mv’s that you read in the live responses. Genius to make you go back and watch other songs to catch this meaning. “Who’s Yongbok.” Still kills me.
Lee Know runs back to Felix at the end, but he does not seem to “see” Felix (if you notice Lee Know has no reaction and he looks off to the side of Felix). Also, in the last scene Felix appears to have some bruises, and he also appears to not recognize Lee Know (at the very beginning Lee Know did not recognize Felix and asked “who?”). My theory is that when Lee Know runs back to Felix he enters another dimension where maybe Felix is the one in need of help, and Lee Know is the “visitor”. Basically they jump from dimensions to dimensions helping each other (I.N has jumped before and that is why he is able to have some interaction with Felix, but nobody else really interacts with Felix except for Lee Know and the brief moment w/I.N). Hyunjin also behaves throughout the short movie as if he knows something, and he is the only one running after Lee Know at the end, maybe in the attempt to stop him from entering another dimension. But, Hyunjin does not reach Lee Know in time, and Lee Know is the only one that goes into the new dimension where the “other Felix” is. If you watch the SKZFLIX preview all the members say something like “no matter where we are we’ll find you”. Love your reactions to SKZ. Also notable is the blowing of the candle at the beginning and the end of the short movie (you can hear the inhale and exhale) which happens in prior videos that are part of this lore (a way to wish yourself to another parallel world maybe?).
You explained what I think so well! I agree
Ooohhh I missed the candle blow, that's so cool! I love how we get to have so many inputs in this and find new things every watch through because of someone else's take/view of it.
Something that caught my eye with the coffee milk is that Felix says I.N. and not Jeongin. Everyone is referred by their actual names and not their stage name. And we know that I.N. is special in the lore, he instantly reacts to his stage name when he shouldn’t have. 31:09
there's an official video in their channel that explains the lore!! it's 'stray kids prequel' and in it, it basically narrates everything that happened in the prequel (hellevator to levanter)
hyunjin, lee know, and jeongin are the only ones who have a monster persona in the lore... lee know as a cat in christmas evel, jeongin as pipi in case 143, and hyunjin as the octopus in sclass.. for lee know, he's a villain in other jype groups' mvs which is connected too.. so there's a lot to take in but if you saw nmixx's dice, you'll get it..
the reason why as you said there are only three of them is because they're the ones who broke the rule of traveling in the lore, they basically did a lot, switching worlds, traveling back in a certain point in time.. and even in the main lore, there are two universes existing
let's say there's a first world and second world.. jeongin from the first world got separated accidentally from his friends and brought himself to the other world.. that's why im some mvs he would look sad and lonely because of what happened to him..
that's why in skzflix he could interact with felix.. it's like it allows him to have that certain knowledge/ awareness because of what happened to him in a different universe
and yes the scars means a lot too! it means they traveled in a particular universe, you could also see it on scars, easy, thunderous, double knot but specifically in levanter.. the three of them are together in a scene which is really important in the lore..
but in other way, both felix and lee know are like the twins of some sort in the universe.. if felix felt something, he would too.. their decision affects each other that's why the marks appeared in the first place... they are interconnected
also jeongin in his recent live confirmed that mixtape oh and skzflix parallels to each other.. that would mean the mixtape mvs, including bme, and the view are a whole different world that parallels to skzflix!!
that's all i have to say and i know this is a lot 😭 but this is all just my theory!! and i love the reaction tho, i really love to see other peple talks about film bcs i love it too.. thank you for the knowledge!!
Love your theories and I hope you are saving them to share with other Stay.
That’s a great theory that connects many points! Good job!
Woah woah woah! There are monsters versions? I never connected Hunyjin to the Octopus! Now I gotta go watch the others.
Honestly I just need to binge watch all their mv now and see about finding more bread crumb trails left about. Thank you for lighting the spark/need to do that with your well thought out explanation!
@@arikearl014 yes and its really cool!!! and in sclass (timestamp is 2:43) in the scene where the octopus was attacking the soldiers, felix accidentally traveled to a different universe which is a hint for skzflix!!
Why do I feel like JYP groups have a bit of connection to their lore, just a tiny bit.
SKZ are masters of spoilers and stuff with an underlying meaning! They give so so many spoilers but we don't get them. 😂😂
I love that u have a similar view on their lore/skz flicks...I strongly believe it's as 'simple' as all the different choices each of them could make along their life journey that sometimes interconnect cross over etc but they all become aware of this here and there with glimpses to the other life stories...but there's some things that would definitely suggest there's more to it...felix possibly being like a guardian somehow to help them all along their way with their life dreams and to bring them all on the same path/timeline...but all this leads to pretty much endless infinite stories they could keep coming up with which would be kind of genius...it's almost a neverending story! I feel all the unveils, from debut for each album play a part in the storyline too
It helps if you watch the teaser for SKZFLIX and the unveil for Leave as well. They don't seem to be so much teasers, as part of the story as a whole. Leave unveil is like Mixtape: OH, with Felix reminiscing about the past and his wish for the future.
Hyunjin seems to be having dejevu when he sees Lee Know. He seems to vaguely recognise him, and throws the basketball to him like in B Me Unveil, and is disappointed when he misses because that is not what he 'remembers'. He runs after Lee Know because he also has a vague feeling something is missing.
I right now in college going for a film degree and the fact that a favorite band puts out a little short absolutely excites me mainly because it what I want to do in the future but also because they're doing both of being musicians and actors. They really are starting to become an inspiration for me 😊
Still an AMAZING ANALYSIS! I'll wait for you to go through the whole storyline. Thank you!!
If you haven't seen the ODDINARY teaser trailer yet, it's worth it. The colors are gorgeous.
Watching your journey through being a baby Stay has been really fun for me. You are not far off our own journey.. bc a few months ago, I made the dive into “this” in bonding time reacting to the long SKZ intro on my daughters YT channel..(which i won’t mention out of respect unless you ask). This is how we found out she had a channel, was a Stay , and we even discovered that she taught herself Korean to understand better. So, I dragged my hubby into Survival, Kingdom, and then the music and some SKZ codes and we both became Stay. We also discovered there is SKZ lore ?! with this album release. It’s given my hubby and i a whole new nerd-out. It’s like realizing we were just under a rock. We are GenXrs .. i honestly don’t think we have known such musical creativity since Pink Floyd. ..? I don’t have any other references to relate to any of the rest of their outreach. (Maybe almost -Swifties?)
Stray Kids.. 3 Ratcha’s guidance? maybe all?? My guess is that their “Frankenstein charm” drags JYPE at times.. 😁Whatever. They are just extra special. There’s no way to describe this until you really dig into it.
I would love and be all in for you go thru the back-Mvs for this timeline.
In what other world would that sentence make sense? Lol.
… any whooo. You’ve become my (2nd) favorite reaction for SKZ.. ❤
Ps.. she did tell me to not mention her anywhere .. so, i apologize .. plz allow me one “mom pass” ? 🥰
@@ChristysMollyMaggiesMom As the Sunbae Stay, I am granting you a whole stack of "mom passes". Its heartwarming to see someone taking an interest into what their children (adults are kids too) are doing (so rare these days) & actually looked into what was so interested to her. An then surprise, hearing that you and your husband are now part of the Stay family, wonderful.. here's a couple of passes for him too.. lol
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Lol..thanks (and a bow..)
She was our intro, but now we are all in. we just ordered our light sticks with the new album and some tshirts ..
My hubby got a Felix hoodie .. he said.. “if i can wear a Mahomes jersey, then i can rep Felix” 💖
It’s honestly been so much fun for us .
These boys are special .. and Stay everywhere have been so welcoming and awesome.
So far, I’m OT8, and Stay is my bias…
.. (although LeeKnow might be the wrecker..js) 🫰🏻❤️🫶🏻
…again, Thank you.
@@ChristysMollyMaggiesMom I must say that learn about SKZ has cause me to adjust my critical thinking & allow myself to enjoy music again. I don't have a Stay family like yours (or either a K-Pop friendly close by) so I am 3rd wheeling it on the YT comment sections. I also found welcoming Stay and enjoy interacting via YT with them. Chan (Ult-respect) has my full attention but plenty of room for 3racha bias & the others.. just depends on which song/album you're listening to at the time. I'm not picky..(I just pick Stray Kids).😄
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It has been unexpected fun to fan-girl over a group at my age with our 30yr old daughter..🥰 (cherish) ..
Isn’t the great thing about Stay... They get you. You’re not alone .
They are the videos that this particular storyline is from but …… right from the start of their career they introduced other universes. End of hellivator you see the other world upside down. District 9 they break out into another district .Then there are the two moons, the doorways and keys from Cle’ series . Levanter and astronaut , double knot and so many other show you references that introduce hints. The upside down universe at start of maniac . Thunderous they are the thunderous ones , IN in freeze and how he always seems to be turning up in different places . I am rewatching all their mv’s again from the start . Of course their are mv’s that don’t seems to be apart of the Skz universes. Oooo I hope we get to watch them with you Roscoe . I love your reactions
This video is just another puzzle piece, and they have left crumbs in most of their videos. If they release a video for Leave, I think it will give us more clues. The MixTape videos will answer some of your questions along with the prologues to albums, like Oddinary. (many of the responses, below/above touch on that) Remember in 5 Star (IN is the only one that says "I am IN" his name). I also think BangChan gave a clue at the MTV Music Awards when he said the maknae (youngest member) is the most powerful.
I just realized I was commenting/adding on to on my comments to another person, sorry for the confusion
IN is the key
Thank you. I was really looking forward to you seeing this from a Director POV. Then you got sucked into the story & lore too. 😂
Yes...to everything you said. And without knowing anything about the lore you're asking all the right questions.
I am really looking forward to the Leave MV but now also to you going through the story line!
Well this is quite the rabbit hole. Can't wait to go back and discover more about the lore.
You did a great job picking up on whats going on Roscoe!! 👏
The order of the m/v lore
1) Mixtape On Track
2)B Me Unveil
3)Mixtape OH
4)The view
I've been really looking forward to your review of this. Not disappointing at all. I would love to see a whole series marathon. I think there are 2 felixes based on leave mv teaser.
Wow! It’s amazing you were interested in scenes such as the coffee milk and the basketball scene without watching the 4 previous music videos. They will make more sense when you do, looking forward to your thoughts. One thing… also consider the scene where Hyunjin is looking at the “video applications” on the laptop. I don’t think he is interested in the application as much as the images of Lee Know (keeping in mind the basketball scene) it will make sense when you see the first 3 MVs. Really enjoyed this 🙏
SKZFLIX is a branch-off episode of the Mixtape storyline (Grow Up, On Track, B Me unveil, OH, The View). The split from the storyline as we know it happens at the end of the B Me unveil. In the original version, Lee Know is injured in a car wreck and the group's relationship shatters (SKZ called it their breakup). Then the OH MV picks up shortly afterward -- the friends are broken apart, leaving school and each other behind to go their separate ways, after which they live for quite a while in regret, missing each other and wishing things had happened differently. They eventually start reaching out, and they reunite in The View (they called it their reconciliation).
In this new split, the first few seconds are the blurry fire and muffled audio of the car wreck in B Me (the last few seconds are the sound and blurred image of Felix blowing out the candle on the cake that he consistently wishes on throughout the storyline).
Theorists keep saying Lee Know died and Felix swapped timelines to save him. He didn't die; that's canon. He was alive and in a cast in OH after B Me. His healing process is one of the ways they show the passage of time in OH. However, the circumstances of the injury _were_ related in some way to the breakup, so it makes perfect sense -- without ignoring canon and manufacturing the idea that Lee Know died in B Me -- that Felix jumped timelines to push the group onto a different path, letting them continue pursuing their shared dreams rather than suffering like they did at the of B Me and in OH, losing all that time and progress together.
This storyline is:
- 0.5 "Grow Up" (optional; prequel that sets up their relationship; contains recurrent visual/prop details from the rest of the official Mixtape storyline)
- 1.0 "On Track" (the beginning of the end)
- 2.0 "B Me" unveil track (there is no full mv, but the unveil is an official part of the storyline and contains vital content; as they put it, this is their relationship breakup)
- 3.0 "OH" (direct followup to the B Me events, including details like injury; then shows the passage of time from the immediate aftermath and through to a present time where they're more mature and looking back with regret and longing; in their words, this is them regretting their breakup and wishing to get back together)
- 4.0 "The View" (as they put it, this is when their wish came true and they reconciled)
- 5.0 The brand-new "SKZFLIX" short film, which takes us on an alternative path as Felix jumps multiverses at the end of "B Me" so he can repair the group relationship and give Lee Know the chance to pursue his dream instead of abandoning it like he did in "OH" when the group friendship disintegrated.
- These songs and videos are completely unrelated to anything else that says "Mixtape."
I would say that Astronaut has a place somewhere in that list as well, something happened to I.N and hyunjin.
Yeah I think that astronaut has a part in it as well. Also I wouldn't draw too much on this new skz-flix yet since I think the leave mv or potentially cover me mv (if we get one) will connect it more. You know, Since this is a complete new world where they met later in life and so on. Also I still think they might give us the full b me mv one day (and it will give us all the answers and that's why they didn't release it back then because it clears too much of the lore up)
@@AntikePuppe I bet the B Me video is hanging around in Chan's laptop... we really need to get organized to get that thing opened..
Another chapter for the Stayville Library - I found that Stay @ll4reall578 had some early interesting thoughts: I think that SKZFlix is a continuation of the B version of SKZ as students, so I am expecting that they are reminiscing their memories of them being together to make a film, because currently they already graduated (shown in OH MV) and can't see each other as much. Most likely reminiscing will be from "Felix" perspective, hence SKZ "Flix" and SKZFlix as Netflix because they are creating a movie so the word has double meaning, its smart word choice I love it, as expected from SKZ wordplay. I'm wondering will there be glitches or references of SKZ A version as idols or not (that would be interesting).
- Even the song "leave" is perfect for the sequel because they made the right choice of being idols so they can "stay" together and recruit "stay" (us) with them, because otherwise if they continued to be students, they will have to eventually "leave" each other side and choose different paths as adults in normal circumstances...
Wow, waiting for Leave now. That's gonna be an interesting journey! I noticed only yellow ticket lore with kids choosing between the different universes.
The fact that you took this seriously enough to ask questions and reacted...but yea its a maze of answers though because the lore is everywhere and some stays are amazing at figuring things out...some of us just enjoy what we see...others just want to know more...but yeah end of bme u csn understand start of this...they are great actors...im interested in the lore to a certain point where i just get confused and overwhelmed...liked this skzflix and want more whether lore in it or not...:) and the comments are helpful as did not realise that the view was part of all this...i just don't like on track much for some reason...
one of things that it seems to me, that I never really hear anyone mention is that at the end when Lee Know finds Yongbok, it would seem like Yongbok can't see Lee Know. He looks lost and confused.
Megaverse MV is out. You should check it out. As for ly analysis of Skfkix, it's like Twin peaks fril david lynch. It's more about thin limits between reality and imagination for a movie using the concept of paralel worlds.it's a recurrent theme in his movies
Me encanta como se puso a analizar todo ❤
I'm so pumped for the full storyline reaction now, you really brought out the director hat here and I enjoyed it a lot!
I really liked your reaction! Looking forward to when the "Leave" MV drops so we can watch the rest of it with you!
Going back now to watch all of them in order...can't wait. But also can't wait to see yours when it is time. 🙂
I hadn't watched the other lore related MV's yet as well, I really enjoyed watching your reaction!
I'm not disappointed at all and I was anxious to see your director point of view
Let's watch the other mv's ❤❤❤
id really like to see your reaction to the other vids - especially since youre a director. the lore is really interesting but i still dont have a full grasp on it personally
I saw a video about the color theory in this short film that was really interesting and also involves the other ones
I think an accident occurred some point after the making of the short film and one of them got seriously injured(in the car crash in the unveil:be me mv) and because the other can’t deal with his getting hurt he tries to come back and save him but when he does, he ends up getting hurt. Like they keep trying to save the other.(them being Felix and leeknow)
Honestly idk much about skz lore but my brain is lowkey putting pieces together & somehow recognize the overall theme or like the moral of the story (MV) bc of it 😭. Honestly, it’s always about stay. They love us down Fr. on a deeper level I think Felix is the parallel world representing stay in a way. It’s a fan & celebrity relationship & the only time we see them collectively is when they put on a show for us. Stray kids make it a point to write songs about stay, include stay in MV’s & anything they do. So I think Felix could represent stay. But for the like lore part I think stray kids also internalize a lot. Felix is always like a culprit, confused, or trying to fit in. In back door & maniac lee know is always a curious one. Bang Chan is always watching something or at the crime scene stealing money from a bank😭. It’s such small details but my brain is like putting pieces together.
En cualquier universo minsung vivirá ❤
Maybe its a kind of reference to tv show where Lee Min-ho and Lee Felix were eliminated from the group on the fourth and eighth episode 😢 respectively, but were later brought back in the ninth episode😢
I suspect Side Effects showed this group of SKZ in the cozy bus; but I haven't followed the lore long enough to know for sure.
I also believe everyone interacted with Youngbok & using Star Trek/Marvel Sci Fi rules means that only certain people remember once he's disappeared.
I feel like Felix interacted with the other members enough to establish that he existed for everyone at one point (for me anyway).
I am also okay if all of that is completely wrong!
Yes.. I forgot about that old Star Trek/Marvel Sci-Fi rule: I will remember you if you are implanted in my brain or heart.. or if you are out of phase when the time shift happens.. Nothing wrong with that theory.. works for me too..
Thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
My timeline for this is honestly a looped and interferred parallel world where its almost similar to the mobious strip, blurring the beginning and end:
1. Skzflix, assuming Felix is from Mixtape:oh answering Lee Know's actor wish hence Lee know was connected to Seungsung then connecting to the rest of the film group
2. On Track - this world's Yongbok after mixtape:oh felix is gone becoming part of the group. And we saw Hyunjin already having a slight beef with lee know at first, as if he doubts lee know's skills. But they become friends, until the girl. (Makes sense now why I.N took Hyunjin's milk, too hahaha)
3. B Me, totally broken up group. The climax of the conflict
4. Mixtape Oh. We relate the wish of Felix and he couldve gone back similar to when Lee know was seeking Hyunjin and the only way to be together again is try a rerun with SKZFLIX ALL OVER AGAIN
4. But this time, there is a shift with What felix couldve told Lee know or Lee know having more awareness. Besides, hyunjin also chased lee know. Lets assume he caught up, too. And lets say this version, the skzflix, is the success possibility where the good ending is The View
5. The View, many stays say its a false ending he ce the dreamy atmosphere but just like dr. Strange who saw alot of possibilities, we can also say that The View is AN ending where Hyunjin answers Lee know's post it, or answers I.N's call, or I.N who thought of Felix when he wanted to buy Milk in the convenient store triggered the wish hence he could actually be another counterpart of Felix which is why ironically, his lines in the film they were making is "i have to go back" and maybe he succeeded coz he couldve succeeded in redirecting Hyunjin's attention so the love rivalry doesnt happen.
Plus as i type this, Roscoe's milk transfer theory makes more sense (as ive integrated). Felix began the wish, the milk which he then gives to I.N as if passing the baton but Hyunjin's love rivalry with Lee know stole the milk. So in the on track, IN tries to get it back but fails. Instead, in Mixtape Oh, his attempts to call hyunjin and the memory of Felix with the milk could have triggered another timeline where IN succeeded in making sure that Hyunjin doesnt antagonize Lee Know and the group doesnt break up (its why in The View, hyunjin and lee know had a door separating them just like the girl, and the only way to make sure they stay together is if Hyunjin and Lee Know doesnt fight
Love the theory and how they tie different points together. I was hoping that the "B Me" MV would magically appear somehow and we can find out more about the fight with Seungmin & I.N and the car accident - why Han was driving and was the female voice in the beginning, the tug-a-war girl interest?
"Han is adorable" LMAOOO
I think the candle lighting has something to do with it as well.
there are videos talking about it online, you should look up explanation videos
There's a lot of lore theories covered on the Bookish Theories YT channel.
love that channel.. great theories
I can't remember what channel but someone made a video not explaining but inputting their opinion on the video and I thought it made sense with the skz lore aswell
I.N is in the wrong universe already -- he was switched in the "Astronaut" MV and thus has been with the wrong set of SKZ for a long time now. (The multiverse concept exists in both this limited storyline and in SKZ's main lore.) He's also always been what they termed "the oracle"; he's kind of a bridge between parallel worlds and is aware of things the others aren't. Thus he can see and interact with Felix here despite being unaware of Felix being from a different timeline.
Felix has always been tied to the broken compass, the directionless guide of SKZ, sensitive to the multiverse possibilities.
From that same root in the main lore, Hyunjin has always been a tester of realities. He's always been able to sense _something_ off, something not fitting when multiple timelines are interacting or crossing. For most of history, he hasn't known what's going on, but he reacts to it with upset because it feels wrong. In this MV, it's implied that on an unconscious level he's recalling their other timeline -- their relationships and interactions, the history of things like Lee Know being allergic to sports, etc -- and that's what triggers his pauses and extra attention, his acting a bit differently than the others.
Where did you get this info? It's so interesting for sure. I've read another where I.N. is the glitch instead of the oracle because bangchan is the keeper and always has to watch over the glitch which is why in some MVs when I.N is looking back or looking somewhere bangchan is always there. I also heard Hyunjin is the wayfinder?
@@sacred_grove95 IN interacts with Felix (milk), and the shifting eyes are a lying tell when LeeKnow asks about him. There are several videos where it looks like IN is untouched by what is going on around him Social Path is an example
Yes and Lee Know has superpowers too but I think different than Felix's. We saw Felix superpower at the end of the Noisy trailer but he will have them again in Megaverse. I can't remember what Lee Know's superpower is but it's tied to him being the only one awake and aware at times when the others are out of it. Like at the end of Lonely Street and in Venom when everyone else at the table suffers from the poison but Lee Know is not just awake but is standing up. I do think I.N is stuck while Felix and Lee Know can travel between universes. Felix seems to be able to it willingly whenever he wants to, but I'm not sure about Lee Know. This Lee Know in SKZFLIX universe does not seem to know or have the powers of the other Lee Know.
People have pointed out Mixtape Felix came to the SKZFLIX universe that Felix came to help Lee Know's dream to become an actor come true. Well, I agree but I think he also came to the SKZFLIX universe to bring all of them together because the group broke apart in the Mixtape universe and The View is Felix's wish. Only a few of them knew each other in the SKZFLIX universe before meeting in order to make the short film for the film festival all because Felix asked Minho to take a walk at the perfect time. I think the Leave MV will be sad because it's Mixtape Felix having to leave his friends after bringing them all together, but the end of SKZFLIX must be showing us that universe's Felix who is about to meet Lee Know and at least in SKZFLIX universe the eight of them can be friends.
If that's the case then I need another MV in the Mixtape universe showing me that they have all made up and Felix's dream from The View of them all being together again will become true.
@@sacred_grove95 felix is the glitch rather than i.n ^^ lix is a little omnipotent and definitely the main Character id say.
More for the Stayville Library. Aren't the basic ideas of the Main lore source of the "superpowers" found in the teaser of District Nine MV?
Hyunjin ends up running behind lee know. He knows more than the others..
please see the other mvs that are linked to skflix, I BEG
I love it❤️
I don't see any follow up video to this where we watch leave or the other videos for the lore! Is it somewhere other than the Stray Kids Playlist? Or has this done been done yet? Because I would Love a longer video where we all watch all of them together and you can talk theories with us. 😢
"Leave" concerns me. I really try not to think about it, but keeps creeping back---what's going to happen in 2025? 🥺
Roscoe, please reacts to the other lore videos! I’d love to see what you have to say
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Donde está felix 😢
I think Felix and leeknow are the same person.
It also won an award, so if you look at this work alone, I think that's the answer.
Felix as Lee Know's imaginary companion.