Is Ryan Poles Ahead Of the Curve In THIS Draft
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2024
- Explore #RyanPoles' #NFLdraft strategy for the #chicagobears and whether he's setting a new standard with his approach in the upcoming NFL Draft. Join us as we dissect his moves and speculate on the potential impact on the Bears' future.
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I'm so excited to see what Poles does at #9. Bear down!
My guess is Poles will throw a curve ball and not pick one of the popular names
I’d like to see them go defense in the first round
Take best available at 9 … huge drop off in talent so keep 9 or trade up and get Alt
Don’t trade up but I agree alt at 9 If he’s there or Odunze or Turner!
Please please don’t get fancy and trade down for a future 3rd round pick make the pick at 9
Odunze or Alt at 9 or trade down and grab DL.
@@user-oy5co3jr6n no trading down make the pick
I look at Sweat as our 2nd rnd pick and Allen as our 4th rnd pick. That’s pretty awesome, I’d say.
DeAndre Swift is worth a 3rd rounder, Everett is worth a late 2nd rounder. Byard I s worth a 4th rounder.
Next draft will be lineman heavy, both sides of the ball , 2025 lookout league, Bears are coming !!
BEARS 2025 DRAFT PICKS
First-round pick
Second-round pick
Second-round pick (via Panthers)
Third-round pick
Fourth-round pick
Fifth-round pick
Sixth-round pick
Sixth-round pick (via Dolphins)
Sixth-round pick (via Steelers, can turn into fourth-round pick)
Oh ya we’re stacked to keep the team reloading
And only 4 picks this year
Best thing the Bears could do, go heavy, big boys who can play up front!
@@ttaylor758because some of the picks are Sweat and Allen... not bad 😂
2027 lookout league here come the Bears looking for the next generational QB
Obviously he was thinking about this yr last yr. Always have to project and hopefully you get it right. Maybe a little lucky this time but that's always going to be part of it with draft selection
To be fair we got a haul last year, the odds of getting 2 hauls in back to back years getting greedy. I’m looking to where poles go with this year draft
QB at 1
I’m not concerned, he’s going to add quality picks.
Our 2nd round pick is Montez. Let’s relax about the picks.
Stand pat and take the best two available. Poles rebuilt a terrible situation. It’ll be ok.
Our 4th round pick is Allen.
When Ryan Poles speaks it’s always in some aspect measured and tailored as to what message it sends to the other guy. You don’t want to give away if you think your short on picks and need more. But what he says makes sense when you think about how many picks the Bears have had over the last three years. It just seems like this is a unique situation to capitalize on. A draft deep in receivers and OL men. And the top five picks are all something else a historic run on QBs. That just makes that stretch from 7 to 20 so much more valuable then it might otherwise be. So Odunze a game changing receiver at 9 or trading down for the 14 and 45 you could add two really nice quality pieces. A Franklin or a Mitchell at WR and Mahogany or Bebe at OL. Plus possibly one or two excellent RBs in Brooks and Jaylen Wright could be there. Yes offense and setting up a generational QB right now is the priority. And if you do grab a high caliber defensive player you’re shocked to see at 45 so be it.
Not this is crazy with every pick being slotted for money but If you have 2 top 10 picks including number one does the cost of signing your picks add in. There are slight cap ramifications so less picks might lead to another signing or 2 in training camp cause you will have some money still. Right?
Waddle your awesome !
Keeping #1 instead of trading #1 for #2 plus a 2nd rd pick is just dumb. In no universe is Williams better than #2 plus a 2nd rd pick. This year's QB class is a gift. Taking 1 when 2 or 3 are so good is just stupid in my opinion.
So I looked at the draft chart after watching this video and if this draft is top heavy why not trade down with the Raiders or Saints you would be trading all ur pics except #1 and you would get that teams 1st and 2nd the points do match up, this way u would only have 3 Picks but all in the top 45. Either 1, 13 and 44 or 1, 14 and 45.
All these shows talk about trading back if all the 3 WRs are gone and Alt is gone. But the question is, if all those top picks are gone what team is wanting to move up to 9, and why? What are they needing to go up and get? I think you may just be stuck at 9 and take the best available. There will be some really good player, just maybe not at the spot you wanted to shore up.
QB's is the number 1 reason as well as Olu Fashanu and Bowers and the top DE
What's he going to say? Oh shit, yeah I wasn't really thinking because i got obsessed with Williams' highlights and decided f it with the whole build through the draft plan and started loading up on free agents
Caleb is a bust BRYCE YOUNG 2.0
@@jwill4434 Bryce Young had nothing to work with in Carolina still put up more points in one game vs GB than Bustin Fields did in two games.
The fact a great football player with great acumen cannot be anything but a quintessential man's man-silver back-hairy chest in Chicago or otherwise people say they'll quit rooting for the team is baffling in 2024. Pat Mahomes has 3 Superbowl rings and no one in Missouri gives him crap because his nuts haven't dropped enough to make his voice manly yet.
GTFO. Bear Down, always. Greetings to all real Bears from this humble servant in Chile. Great things are upon us.
I hope he takes a defensive end at 9 or maybe trades down a few picks for one
Big pole poles!
If Poles got two consistent pro bowl players with the first two picks but the other picks didn't really amount to anything, would you take that?
Yes. Consistent pro bowlers are just shy of HOFers.
You make 7 out of 11 pro bowls, you go to the HoF... generally.
The hit rate on 3rd and 4th round picks aren’t as high. Generally you want players who contribute from those picks.
All Pace would say is he's gonna attack the day and have conviction
I like Fuaga almost as much as Alt. Footwork, hand placement/movement & anchor.
If we're going oline it should be interior with a trade back. Caleb's tape shows he can move fluidly in the pocket while looking down field even if pressure comes from the edge. He avoids it well. What you can't let happen is the front 3 getting shoved in his lap every play so he learns to abandon the pocket!!
@@josephpayton7522 I 💯% agree!
Jared Verse at #9
He pretty much indicated that we’ll be trading down in our bottom 2 picks after 1 & 9 cuz of what he said there’s more kids coming out this year than went back
Other way around, more players went back to school this year
Final verdict. Draft Caleb 1 Braden Fiske 9
other 2 draft picks a Oline man and a WR
4.122 WR Jalen Corker 🐻⬇
Poles traded lots of draft capital this year because the Bears had so many holes to fill and they can't wait for players to develop. They need competent level veterans to plug in immediately because there's pressure to win now. But they still have so many holes to fill. Using the 1.1 pick and not trading back will forego a talent windfall at the key positions of need this year and next year but it looks like that's what they've decided to do.
If there is pressure to win now, the worst choice is to draft a rookie QB. Especially a drama queen like Caleb. Name one time in the last 50 years, the bears have developed a QB. Name 1 heisman trophy QB in last 50 years who went on to win a SB. Jim plunkett. Caleb is not generational. He is not special, he is not Mahomes, he is not Rodger’s. He’s an unproven prospect, and a simple trade down could net high ranking picks that fill real needs. Go with Bo Nix, and you will have a more nfl ready QB, and a quality center, dt, and WR, that fill real needs now. The bears do not have what it takes to protect a guy like Caleb, or develop him to nfl concepts which unlike Bo Nix, Caleb needs to learn. They are gambling with him and hoping his mobility keeps him alive, like it did with Justin, while resetting theQB salary. It’s a total gamble. Besides, Caleb is no dummy, he sees what’s there and he will try every way possible to get out of this pick. Mark my words it will not go smoothly for the bears over the next few weeks if they don’t trade the pick.
Poles drank the kool aid on this one succumbing to national media and fan expectation pressure. They didn’t due full diligence on the other QBs. At least get somebody large who is not fragile and can take the hits. Rude awakening coming for Caleb and poles and bears fans if they choose them. Caleb is not the messiah everyone thinks he will be at the pro level.
@@specialist-in-techfound the Packers fan everybody. Lol.
if Joe alT is there at 9 you better take him
If Joe Alt falls to 9, it's medical. Can't take him.
Poles Is about to make history
I didn't get a great look, but I'm pretty sure I didn't see Ryan Poles or Eberflus at Drake Mays pro day. Even if they are locked into Caleb Williams, not doing your due diligence on all the other top prospects at quarterback as a disservice to the team. Because believe it or not, there are many you think drake Maye has a higher ceiling, then Caleb Williams.
Waldron went there. QBs that need to develop in the NFL have a much higher bust rate. The 2 with the best chance to be good are Williams and Daniels. Here’s the other thing Caleb is only visiting one team. Which means only 1 team will have his medical information.
@@TheSjurisuh clown 🤡 Caleb has to develop! lol he came from the run and shoot practically. 😂😅 You fukin nuts are nukin futs about this guy. I'm sure you have his jersey on order already better frame it quick before he leaves the league. As to the original post they have to go with Caleb they are married to him now after the Fields trade. Mexr year will have new HC following year new GM the next a new QB. I hate being right but you don't need to be Nostradamus to see that just a fan for a few decades. All the ones calling for Caleb were born after the SB and even after the second one the tiktok thirty second attention span generation. Hmmm I think I figured out just now why we have a generational talent ever year!!! bcuz they think that's how long a generation is in tiktok years!!
Yes and no. What he's saying isn't wrong, but you still have to look at the class. For example, this class has quality depth at wide receiver and tackle, but it also has three legit QB prospects and possibly four to the rest of the league. The rest of the positions are scarce. That tells you that you want to be at the very top of the first and you want to have most your picks in rounds 2-3 because that's where all the quality players will be pushed to as people reach in the 1st round because there are probably only 10-12 first round caliber prospects. His strategy makes sense if you don't need tackle or receiver or if you only have four picks that are all in rounds 1-3. Some would argue we need both receiver and tackle and its a very good IOL class. So of course we pick at the top which is great when you need one of those legit QBs or want to trade the pick, and then we pick at 9 which is right around where the 1st round loses some value this year. So you either reach or trade back to get into the 2nd round where the real value will be.
Don’t they say Brian Thomas Jr can’t run the full route tree?
Why would you take that at #9.
Simms has him at #2.
No he can’t, he has a about 5 routs, but you can teach him the rest of the rout tree. And you have the perfect mentor in Allen. Thomas has the highest upside in the class. He has the size, the insane speed, the quick twitch, great hands, fights for the ball, YAC is amazing. The Bears have two great rout runners, they need a burner and a 50/50. He runts great verts, needs to work on his 50/50 game and be more aggressive, he struggles with dig routs, and curls. But right now we need a deep threat, even if it’s just to stretch the field and keep a defense honest so they don’t start creeping up.
@@creightonc8147If you like Brian Thomas, you can trade back to the late teens or early twenties and grab him, or Verse, or Jackson Powers Johnson, or that Byron Murphy. One will still be there. You might be able to pick up a second by doing that and get a guard too.
@@creightonc8147 Bears would be in a much better position to train him to run routes with 2 proven all-pro type WRs.
I would LOVE Brian Thomas at #9 if the big 3 are gone.
If Rome is there at 9 I think he pulls the trigger and takes him. Otherwise if the top 3 WR’s are off the board he trades down and takes a DL.
Take best player at #9 Turner or odunze
I think u still gotta get a 2round
Just take the best edge available you used draft capital in free agency
Day 3 picks are only useful for teams trying to overhaul their roster.
Except for when you find guys like Tyreek hill, Brandon Marshall, Tom Brady and Brock purdy on day 3 lol.
Ideally, trading with the Viqueens, who desperately covet a new QB, wouod be te move, as we could take their two first-rounders this year (the first of which being only two spots back), & possibly a bit more.
I look for Ryan to trade back from number 9 because he likes his pics but they need to come away with two blue chip players from this draft if they don't it will be a complete failure
Take best available with all four picks. Now you’ve set yourself up to WIN THE UNDRAFTED FREE AGENCY. AGENTS WILL WANT TO PUT THEIR PLAYERS ON THE BEARS. WITH LITTLE COMPETITION AND A UP AND COMING TEAM ,
So it doesn't bother anyone that the Bears do not have a 2nd round pick?
It would if we only had one first round pick
No. They got Sweat with that pick. HELLO?
Nope. Why are you nit picking dumb things? They have 2 first round picks where he can get 2 potentially great players. Next year we have all our picks plus a second rounder coming in from the panthers
@steveb4748 this year matters, not next year. When those day 1 starters go off the board in the 2nd round, there will be a different view.
@meco733 montez sweat is our second round pick. Im cool with it
The guy has two picks in the top 9 and he’s concerned he doesn’t have enough picks? Geez stop
How can a GM with a 10-24 record, one the worst in NFL history, be ahead of the curve.
Eyes roll all you want but Ryan Pace achieved 12 wins and his third season, and may have gotten Bears to SB were it not for the Dink-dong FG vs Eagles. Chubby Ryan Poles has to win 12 just to keep pace with "Pace."
he had a lousy qb he didnt draft ,what can you do
Bro you obviously don’t understand football.
Yeah, he got to the playoffs in his third season because he gambled and mortgaged the future of the team. And when all those old players with expensive contracts stopped working out poles got to take over and clean house. Now we are building with sustainability and if you can’t see that then you really don’t know anything about the NFL.
No... Poles messed up and it's going to set the Bears back a year and most likely cost Eberflus and/or Poles their job. The Bears are a 6-7 win team this season.
Poles is not going to draft an OL-man. If he did he would have to cut someone he just signed. That kind of waste of money and effort is not Poles. Imo, the highest needs are QB, DE2-3(Walker), WR3, 3T2, & DE4-5 in that order. Poles must get Turner or Verse with essentially that 9th pick whether he does a mini-trade down < 5 slots or picks at 9. Right now, Dom Rob = DE3-4 & prob s/b prac sq.
all the linemen he paid our vet minimums besides Ryan Bates are just to see if they work out paying a million dollars for one year of someone that can work out is better than spending a fourth round pick on somebody that doesn't
What are you talking about? Whitehair and Patrick are gone , Larry Borom and/or Doug Kramer might get cut and he clearly has no confidence in J'Tyre Carter . I see a lot of changes could be possibly made.
@@jasonhine4493 Shelton's cap hit = $3.5m, to cut him cost $1.7m.
@@spaceghost8995 Center is solidly covered with Shelton & Bates & $7'5m cap space combined. He'll draft a C next year. I agree Borom @ his $3.2m hit prob cut but Flus knows Pryor; also 24 starts & 75 game experience; Curhan 9 starts & 24 games; one is LT, one is RT. Bates is LG/C, Carter is RG. Flus doesn't redo his work in same offseason. Poles loves Jones. Your "no confidence in Carter" is your invention and you know it. They have had nothing but praise for him. He's done with the OL for this offseason (except injury) with much more critical needs elsewhere.
@@user-cr5mq9lz8r If they trusted Carter they wouldn't have signed the guy from TN. They wouldn't be so desperate to sign other backup guards. Bates is a bum. Buffalo was going to cut him anyway. Buffalo even cut the center that Bates couldn't beat out. Jones cannot stop a bull rush. Of course, Fields made the line look much worse by his indecisiveness.
Please , please, please Falcons don't take Dallas Turner!!!!
I hope they do don’t take a receiver well one of the big 3
Who cares that they have only four picks? Why are people infatuated with the number? Does it matter if they had 5 or 6 instead of 4? Would that be worth dropping from the 9th pick? Next year, they have 9 picks. Poles knows what he's doing. The great majority of Bears fans are idiots. Poles is building a Super Bowl quality team. Bears fans don't understand that concept.
Bears only have 4 picks. 😂 Packers have 11
What moves have Fudge Packers made better than Bears moves in free agency
That makes it even worse trading fields for a worthless 6 th pick
HEY
Stay basic and draft big guys - OLine especially. Then you can win … Quit trying to be Bears geniuses, it never works.
If he drafts Caleb Williams he doesn’t know what he’s doing 💯 Drake maye is a hall of famer best QB since mahomes to come out 💯
LMAO You have no idea what you're looking at. People think Caleb is overrated... Maye is the most overrated in this class. Inconsistent and a project. Watched four full games of his this past season to see this guy as he was hyped up to be 1b to Caleb's 1a and came away extremely unimpressed given the hype and the competition he was playing against. Missed layup throws, his deep balls which were supposedly a strength were not thrown in stride, receivers making adjustments to complete the reception. Even his arm strength is overrated. He has tools and size but I'm not spending a top 5 pick on a project.
The previous regime would have definitely drafted Maye lmao.
Right (side eye) yall thought trubisky was better than Mahomes
This discussion explains one part of the JUSTIN FIELDS “trade.” Everybody was bitching that Poles got a 2025 sixth round pisk rather than a 2024 pick. Looks smart now, huh!
Also, maybe Poles can fix the center and edge rusher problems by picking up Jason Kelce and JJ Watt.😂😂😂. Almost seriously though, Kelce would, at retiree speed, probably help the rookie QB.
Another advantage would be that Jason could bring Kylie with him!
We don't need a wannabe comedian here.
I love not hearing from Silvy
CALEB WILL BE A BUST - HE WAS SURROUNDED BY 5 STAR ATHLETES JUST LIKE BRYCE YOUNG WAS AT ALABAMA - PENIX JR IS BEST QB IN DRAFT NIX IS 2ND FACTS
Derp of the day^
That's even more reason to trade the #1 pick to get additional 1st rounder(s) next year.
Right let’s never really build a team instead just keep getting picks. Then next year they can trade those for more picks the following year. With your logic the Bears will eventually have every pick in a future draft. I hear Mike Glennon is available.
😂
there was no way that he needed to trade fields HUGE MISTAKE!!!!
There’s nothing that Fields has done in his first 3 years that tells you that he can be a generational talent at qb and when you have a chance to get a qb with that talent you take it.
@@TheSjuris NOthing ? your kidding right? you do realize that he was voted #86 on the top 100 player list right you do realize this ?
@@sgtcrusher66 does he want a cookie. He’s so damned good that he only worth a 6th round draft pick. So damned good that every single other qb in the league is a better option at qb during the 4th qtr.
@@TheSjuriswhen Caleb flames out and he will let's revisit this talk. Other QB maybe but that guy that guy Manziel written all over him. I'm not a businessman I'm the business, man yeah that's your guy alright much better than the head down hardworking you GIFTED to Pittsburgh. You may win a few here and there but you just made a SB impossible. Giving a side with Allen Mahomes and Lamar Fields too!? Shit you guys are dumb af no cap.
The child wants to get rid of divisions?
No.Hes going to fuck everything all up.
Him and Eberflus will both be fired in a couple of years
You didn't watch the video and your commenting nonsense.
FACTS
Source: Wikipedia
Do you not remember our last GM.
He’s the one who picked Trubisky over Mahomes.
He used collateral in future to do this, then did the same with Fields.
🐻⬇️
Well the rest of the league completely disagrees w you
Can't be a fan of the Bears if they take Caleb. The NFL will script The Bears multiple Superbowl wins for their sis boy QB. I would have rather lost with Justin.
You’re looney toons bro
Go cheer for the packers then you dork
TF. We don’t need part time fans.
Go be a fan of the Packers, we won’t miss you !
Stop snorting nose candy bro!! There's no scripting Superbowl titles!!
I wonder if we will see Tyson Bagent again he has been training with one of the best quarterbacks trainers out there in Cali Chicago is headed for a big ass let down with the generational kid. That just pisses me off