Apple MacBook Pro with Touch Bar Review (late-2016)
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- Опубліковано 13 лис 2016
- Apple's new MacBook Pro is a contentious machine, dropping almost all legacy ports in favor of Thunderbolt 3, ignoring the Windows 10 style of touchscreen in favor of supplementary Touch Bar, and adopting the low-profile "butterfly" keyboard that proved to be love-it-or-hate-it on the 12-inch MacBook. Has Apple forgotten that the "pro" in MacBook Pro stands for "professional"?
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macbooks are built to last. if i buy these developing features now, in a few short years the whole market will switch and i wont have to buy a new laptop to get these ports/features
i have many friends still using their 2008 and 2010 macbook pros because of their superior build quality and longevity. i think apple made a smart move here
The problem was never build quality. The problem is the "pro" aspect of these machines are non existent. Removing legacy ports from a laptop that the current industry still utilizes in their everyday hardware isn't a good move. Also the prices for these machines are outlandish for what they offer in terms of specs. While PC users are granted the benefit of having their machines equal the value>price. Mac users have no choice. You want the best you're going to have to pay upwards to car prices for these machines. usb-c is the future for sure but everything in my place is still using usb-a ports. By the time the whole industry converts everything to usb-c a new mac pro line will be coming out, which won't make this laptop a waste of money but sure will be outdated in terms of specs. I honestly don't want to go back to PC. i love my MAC, but i cannot justify spending 3k+ for a laptop that i will have to spend another $200+ on dongles so i can connect my monitors. My SD reader, my chargers, My external hard drives.
By all means if you have the money go ahead and by it. Which most people with a disposable income will do. I honestly would too. I'm a fan boy who's also an idiot so in time ill purchase one of these things. But everyone who's buried this machine in their blogs and videos online are right to do so. Apple are turning into a luxury brand and are alienating a key demographic of people; their "pro" users.
They should have just called this the new macbook and people wouldn't have had such an issue with it.
+delasol But these are far from MacBooks, they are definitely MacBook Pros. Putting them under the MacBook moniker would just make their product line a mess. Bad for consumers because of confusion, bad for sales, and just not consistent with the 12inch MacBook. Apple has always been at the forefront of forcing certain changes in the tech industry, namely the streamlining of devices by dropping legacy components/software (floppy drive, CD/DVD drive, Adobe Flash, audio jack on phones, etc) The removal of legacy ports is a pain during this transition period, but being as aggressive as they are they will not compromise on forcing the industry to change. Even the inclusion of one legacy port would mean peripheral companies would drag their feet, and probably other computer companies too.
4 years later. Was not a smart move pal.
You missed that the integrated graphics are better on the touchbar version.
Dude. Did you just get a slider or something? The amount of slider shots used here is ludicrous. Seriously. 100% of the shots.
Thank goodness Apple has not given in and made the MacBook screen a touchscreen. macOS is a desktop OS. The touch bar is enough touch for me on a MacBook. if you want a touch OS go to iOS on an iPad.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Amazing, objective review. Whereas all other "reviews" so far were mostly just rants or blunt opinion-making with pure spam in the comments, this one actually answered a lot of my questions! 1 subscriber gained, sir!
Great review. Spot on with the closing words.
Excellent review. Good job.
Really good, objective review! Don't get all the hate from people complaining before they even tried them.
A lot of media outlets who have reviewed them are disappointed as well. Have you read The Verge review? They gave it a pretty bad score and they NEVER give Apple products a bad score.
not really true, they gave the first retina Macbook pro (2012) the same low score as the new 2016.
Because Microsoft Verge is being paid by Microsoft to advertise their products and bash Apple.
it definitely isn't for everyone, which doesnt mean its a bad piece of hardware. watch Jonathan Morrison video on the mb pro
The best Review out there until now! One sub more.
nice review
This is one lap top I truly need to advance my podcast...
it feel I have one, so excited
Thanks,very helpful and well done,you just got a new subscriber
2:44 lag in touch bar UI the selection is not following your touch , yikes!!
Thanks, a very fair review imo.
NOTICE: The MACBOOK PRO 13 2016 only has 2 left ports are thunderbolt 3, the 2 ports on the right are normal USB-C
he is wrong. all 4 are thunderbolt 3 but only the 2 on the right have as high speeds and some other things. They are not quite the same but all 4 ARE thunderbolt
Amazing review, loved the video! :) Can't wait to get mine
If they just include the magsafe and SD ports i would've bought this I dont care about normal USB ports or HDMI. But Magsafe is the best Apple invention ever and you can never use a SD card without a dongle if there is no SD slot...
That's a really nice HP laptop.
please benchmark 13'inch and 15'inch version of macbook pro touchbar
the best review ever ; )
I don't agree with the statement "it's probably worth it" at least not for my use case and I would argue for many professional users. Ignoring the fact that pretty much anything you need to connect to the new MacBooks involves an adapter. A couple of UA-camrs have noticed wifi drops when connecting certain hardware true adapters. Also having your network running true an adapter is something I would like to avoid as much as I can. As an it professional I don't mind the price as much as I do the lack of usability. Talking about price $1500 to $1700 gives you a 6core machine with 32gig of memory and 1tb of PCI storage with a top of the line case power supply and grafic card you can even buy a new monitor and have sum cash for a tasty lunch hahaha
TuxKey 5 years ago it was the Same with CD and DVD... and now, Nobody uses it anymore!
The fact that you can get more powerful hardware in a cheaper/comparably priced Windows laptop is nothing new, it's been the case this entire millennium. You're paying for how the software and hardware work together, which in most cases keeps up, like how FCX is as good on Mac hardware as on PCs with higher clock speeds. It's a first generation product, it'll be better with time just like all other first gen things are
WHy are you comparing a desktop custom build to this computer? Not everyone wants to build a custom PC which offer no support and requires maintenance and time to build. Geez..
But in 2011 I payed 1600 EUR for a MacBook Pro 15 with i7, 8 GB RAM, 1 TB HDD, AMD Radeon 6750M and HighRes Display. The price was already high compared to windows machines, but it was outstanding: i7 with >5 hours batterylife? High Quality Unibody? Midfield Graphics Card in such a "thin" device? The MacBook Pro was never a gaming device but always a midfield/high media device.
And now? Still the actual i7 (which will be soon outdated), a low end graphics card (radeon pro 450 is still not much faster than the 650M from 2012), killed the best keyboard on marked, gave us a touchbar I would never use (because my hand is 90% of the time on the awesome trackpad). And why this shit? Just that it becomes smaller and slimmer. This is a fucking PRO device. I do not expect gaming performance, buw I also do not need a fucking 3GB/s SSD if it comes with 256 GB. I do not need a fucking 1tflops GPU if there are better ways they could go: e.G. external GPU via TB3.
The problem of it: They want 2700 EUR for the entry level device. Sorry, but that is just ridiculous. Not because I could not afford it. Just because it is by far overpriced.
immatoll You're right the prices are way too high, the way I'm justifying it is the resale on my current MBP, should be able to get like 800ish euros on it so I'll essentially be paying base price for an upgraded machine with the 1TB hard drive. It's also nice knowing that in 5ish years when I sell the laptop it'll be worth quite a bit and I'll again be able to subsidize the next one with it
Hi guys, I need some advice. I'm planning to get a MacBook (I don't have one yet) and can't decide if it is worth getting the 13" with touchbar, or the 13" 2015 pro with an i7. What do you guys think I should get?
Please make sure your device is nice and clean, your cinematography and video angles are top notch but what is really iritating me is seeing dust/hair on the macbook. Just work on that as it is as important as knowing those angles and cuts.
Who test in hdmi adapter？do u guy face it flicking in external monitor？
I like the touchbar, but I think it would have been better under the space bar. Just my opinion.
Good grief that touch bar looks soooo gimmicky. The calculator use is a joke! Plus that keyboard looks dreadful, it must be like typing on a touch screen, but hey at least it's a thinner laptop...
you need to look up the definition of the word gimmick. because the touchbar will have many great uses for many ppl, making it not a gimmick but useful feature.
I don't think it's a gimmick. I've always hated using such convoluted key shortcuts to get shit done. This touch bar will make things go so much faster. I love the screenshot button, and if I'm listening to music I can easily scrub through certain tracks while I'm doing something else without having to open iTunes.
Sanjit dude just listen. You think specs on a paper mean everything! Apples OS works very well and doesn't require tons of specs to operate. Also look, the $1,500 one you're talking about has weaker specs than the model with touchbar, and that's something a lot of people don't seem to understand. For the extra $300, you're not just getting thr touchbar. You're getting 2 more USB C ports, a better graphics card, 2.9 ghz vs 2.0, 2133 MHz ram vs 1866 MHZ in the non touch bar. In the keynote, even Apple themselves said that the model without the touchbar is to replace the MacBook Air.
The iwatch was a gimmick.
Hey Man, do you like the space grey color or ou prefer the silver?
space grey definitely
You're calling the Macbook (not Pro) the Macbook Air but they are very different!
I like the 13" one without touch bar but am worry about the 540 graphic chip. Do you think if I upgrade to the I7 2.4 processor i can get a better graphic..?
Munther G-mail without the touch bar? I don't think so. Apple made the 'basic' MPB underpowered in the graphics department to force people to upgrade...
C Dubs thanks. yes without touch bar. What if I add to it 16Gb ram and 512Gb hdd and the I7 do you think it won't make it better? I am canceling my order on the touch bar one, can't bare it it's a recipe for disaster if say I spell coffee on it I will end up without escape key permanently. I know the Ram frequency will be less and the GPU is 540 but does it make less pro than the higher ones ?
I unerstand where youre comming from and the one without a toucbar is definitely a great device too, but I reckon your laptop will suffer anyway when you spill coffee in it
Can I have some buying advice from you?
I'm thinking to buy the 15 inch 2.7 GHz with Radeon Pro 460, I will use it for R&D product, photo/video editing, running all kind of Autodesk apps, VR of course, and gaming. Does it good enough for all those? Do you think apple will add haptic feedback to the touchbar or any new features in next year KabyLake model? I can afford only one so does it able to future proof at least 4 years I don't have to worry about something like VR, or 4K editing my MBP can't catch up?
For safe bet, do you think I should wait for next year model and possible lower price?
NETVO TV wait till next year. I don't think this generation of MBP will hold up when the next gen Intel processors hit the market.
C Dubs ok!
They have 3 versions on ebay.to/2fFTMVl get the 512 but half will do also
I wouldn't suggest Apple was on the cutting edge just because they're doing something different...
when usb-c finally becomes standard apple will get rid of it forcing you to use adapters for ever
Civic Hatchback at 5:10?
is there a difference between these 'thunderbolt 3' ports and standard USB type-c ports?
Ben Gold yes
Yes you can order the New Macs on ebay.to/2fFTMVl apple is bogged down with orders
Broo i got good problems what we gone do? 😣😂😅😁😆😀😎 touched bar I have mac air selling
5:08 the "PRO" now stands for PROducts Over Priced
unfortunately there is no 15" without touch bar
Svetoslav Popov that's because the MBP 13' Witouot touchbar was aimed at "lovers of MacBook Air"
I understand, but I am lover of 15" Pro and do not need that touch bar actually.
MBP 15" baseline $2400? Pffft
MagSafe and SD card slot need to come back if Apple wants to save the MacBook Pro. RAM, SSD and battery must be replaceable. Two USB slots need to be added and the price should come down by at least 500bucks! Tim Cooks gay ass head should roll ASAP!!
Save the MacBook Pro? The 2016 model is selling better than hot cakes.
The Chosen One at least 500 bucks?!? 750 dollars and more is the realistic pricing
db4ip
those are only the fantards buying they buy anything with an apple logo on it, wait till after a couple months after availability
Industry catches up? Haha
it doesn't have all the other ports, so I won't be buying it.
Should be called the "BackwardsMac" just awful. The pricing is insane, no ports that people want, stupid gimmick touch bar and what is with the swimming pool size mouse pad! Sorry for those who love this I think this is really gone backwards with the ports / dongles thing and the touch bar takes focus off the screen etc - good for emoji's I guess. The cost well forget it.
It's not thunderbolt 3. It's USB-c. Learn tech before reviewing it
Jørgen Færgestad It is TB3 with USB-C comparability. Please learn tech before you criticize others for the same thing.
the new crapbook pro. cant decide whats worse the iphone 7 or this joke of an "upgrade"
I know what's worse: you.
Roman R you wished you could have these things didn't you?😏
For those complaining about price and also holding out till next year, the price next year is gonna be even more hefty
Bleh
Mixed reception? It's been universally shit hasn't it?
this thing is a gimmick only sheep would buy it.
Useless nonsense