Really stoked for this channel! Thanks for posting. I'm 34 and finallyyyyy recently out as bi and exploring my sexuality. Feels good ans also shameful to have taken so long to just explore things
As a 37 year old I'm only half out, still haven't told my dad, and I live in a small town so if I tell anyone or put it Facebook it will get back to him, so, you're doing way better than me! I get the shame but keep going!
I want to say how much I appreciate both you and Nate!! I am 61 years old. Listening to your stories is listening to parts of mine also. This is so needed! ❤
It feels so relieving and healing to hear both of your stories. I just listened to Nathan's and then Susie's. It feels like I can breathe easier after hearing so many validating things from you both ❤❤❤ Thank you so much!
LOVING this podcast. I too grew up in the evangelical church in the 90s and early 2000s. I tried to be cisgender and was deeply involved in my church until eventually I stepped away from everything when I was 18. Feeling suffocated by it all, I needed to not only find myself, but find GOD for myself. I started my gender transition journey during those 10 years away from it all and thank God I spent that time finding myself. flash forward to today and I'm the happiest I've ever been (albeit quite honestly the loneliest I've ever been, but that's another story I think more related to being a millennial, but also related to being transgender and a follower of Christ). I have a successful career and I'm growing in my faith and walk with Christ everyday. I'm not exactly where I want to be yet, but thank God I'm not where I've been. Not once have I ever been "struck by lightening" or had a feeling in my gut that who I am is wrong or that I am less loved by God. Thank you so much for doing this podcast. ❤
Susie, I really relate to what you said about how it's such a breakthrough moment to realize you don't have all the answers and that's OK. I feel like in Christian culture, we get caught in this tension between believing that God loves us unconditionally as we are, will meet us where we are, and has already won the battle for us vs. we need to get everything right or we lose our existential war with Satan.
I’m not attending worship anywhere now. I went decades letting comments and attitudes roll off my back. I just cannot do that anymore. It’s been six months since I left. I deeply miss attending. I recently began attending a Sunday school class again. Most participants were shocked when they found out why; they shared how they missed me and welcomed me back. I feel safe in the class and very supportive. My faith is vital and I’m thankful for the fellowship these last few weeks.
I really appreciate you both for allowing others to see your vulnerability, as someone who was outed young and decided to walk away from faith. now in my 30s as a lesbian trying to build my relationship with God the fear of not being accepted for who I am has isolated me for quite some time. Your stories have helped in so many ways. those constant thoughts that my faith is not worth keeping for the sake of my lifestyle, I know can have a more clear understanding who I am and who God chose me to be are no different.
I love both your stories I am going through the same thing but I am in an African household and it’s kinda hard to be honest but I guess I just have to stay positive and trust the process
It’ll get better girl!! There is a whole world out there and community. I’m sorry you’re in that position, I get it but you’ll look back one day and it’ll feel so far away 🥰🫶🏼
you are doing a wonderful job of creating the space you just described........a space to be able to show up honestly and messy and still be loved. I am grateful to have found this space.
I was just wondering if you guys have heard of Becket Cook. He has a Thursday show also- but is older than y’all and has had a different experience relating to God while having SSA. This is a very interesting interview (as was Nate’s)!
thank you I can relate so much coming from a mexican american backgound. i'm 39 , lesbian, and yeah it sucks. you know in media we subconsciously look for ourselves, and in all my years of searching you have come the closest thank you
24:37 Susie, so when you came out initially, you came out as Bi. However, the name of this episode is “How I Realized I Was Gay”… So maybe there is more to it - If I continue watching, maybe it will answer this - But do you consider yourself Bi or Gay? Also - for both of you - do you think there is a perception that only women can be Bi, and that a lot of people think that men cannot be Bi - because they have to be into either one of the sexes, but not the other? What do both of you think of this? Can men be bisexual? Thanks.
Yes, men can be bi. I didn`t even know that some people say that doesn`t exist. I know some bi men (who have been out like that for years), so that`s one thing. But there is also actual scientific research that proves that bi men and women exist. I think there is a misconception because some gay and lesbian people come out as bi first even though they actually aren`t. Sometimes because they are unsure themselves, sometimes because they are afraid of the reaction of people and they think it`s safer to say they are bi rather than gay or lesbian. So yes, bi men exist. There is also some men who are gay who come out as bi first before they announce that they are actually gay, so maybe that`s where the confusion comes from.
Yes, men can be bi. I didn`t even know that some people say that doesn`t exist. I know some bi men (who have been out like that for years), so that`s one thing. But there is also actual scientific research that proves that bi men and women exist. I think there is a misconception because some gay men come out as bi first. Sometimes because they are unsure themselves, sometimes because they are afraid of the reaction of people and they think it`s safer to say they are bi rather than gay. So yes, bi men exist and there is also some men who come out as bi who later turn out to actually be gay.
Yes, men can be Bi. I know some Bi men (who have been out like that for years), so that`s one thing. But there is also actual scientific research that proves that Bi men and women exist. I think there is a misconception because some gay men come out as Bi first. Sometimes because they are unsure themselves, sometimes because they are afraid of the reaction of people and they think it`s safer to say they are Bi rather than gay. So yes, bi men exist and there is also some men who come out as bi who later turn out to actually be gay.
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Really stoked for this channel! Thanks for posting. I'm 34 and finallyyyyy recently out as bi and exploring my sexuality. Feels good ans also shameful to have taken so long to just explore things
As a 37 year old I'm only half out, still haven't told my dad, and I live in a small town so if I tell anyone or put it Facebook it will get back to him, so, you're doing way better than me! I get the shame but keep going!
I want to say how much I appreciate both you and Nate!! I am 61 years old.
Listening to your stories is listening to parts of mine also. This is so needed! ❤
It feels so relieving and healing to hear both of your stories. I just listened to Nathan's and then Susie's. It feels like I can breathe easier after hearing so many validating things from you both ❤❤❤ Thank you so much!
I'm really enjoying your podcasts! This is so needed!
LOVING this podcast. I too grew up in the evangelical church in the 90s and early 2000s. I tried to be cisgender and was deeply involved in my church until eventually I stepped away from everything when I was 18. Feeling suffocated by it all, I needed to not only find myself, but find GOD for myself. I started my gender transition journey during those 10 years away from it all and thank God I spent that time finding myself. flash forward to today and I'm the happiest I've ever been (albeit quite honestly the loneliest I've ever been, but that's another story I think more related to being a millennial, but also related to being transgender and a follower of Christ). I have a successful career and I'm growing in my faith and walk with Christ everyday. I'm not exactly where I want to be yet, but thank God I'm not where I've been. Not once have I ever been "struck by lightening" or had a feeling in my gut that who I am is wrong or that I am less loved by God. Thank you so much for doing this podcast. ❤
Susie, I really relate to what you said about how it's such a breakthrough moment to realize you don't have all the answers and that's OK. I feel like in Christian culture, we get caught in this tension between believing that God loves us unconditionally as we are, will meet us where we are, and has already won the battle for us vs. we need to get everything right or we lose our existential war with Satan.
I’m not attending worship anywhere now. I went decades letting comments and attitudes roll off my back. I just cannot do that anymore. It’s been six months since I left. I deeply miss attending. I recently began attending a Sunday school class again. Most participants were shocked when they found out why; they shared how they missed me and welcomed me back. I feel safe in the class and very supportive. My faith is vital and I’m thankful for the fellowship these last few weeks.
So lifegiving! This story is so good
I really appreciate you both for allowing others to see your vulnerability, as someone who was outed young and decided to walk away from faith. now in my 30s as a lesbian trying to build my relationship with God the fear of not being accepted for who I am has isolated me for quite some time. Your stories have helped in so many ways. those constant thoughts that my faith is not worth keeping for the sake of my lifestyle, I know can have a more clear understanding who I am and who God chose me to be are no different.
I love both your stories I am going through the same thing but I am in an African household and it’s kinda hard to be honest but I guess I just have to stay positive and trust the process
It’ll get better girl!! There is a whole world out there and community. I’m sorry you’re in that position, I get it but you’ll look back one day and it’ll feel so far away 🥰🫶🏼
Wish I could give you both a big hug, you’ve both been through so much 🫂💓
you are doing a wonderful job of creating the space you just described........a space to be able to show up honestly and messy and still be loved. I am grateful to have found this space.
I was just wondering if you guys have heard of Becket Cook. He has a Thursday show also- but is older than y’all and has had a different experience relating to God while having SSA. This is a very interesting interview (as was Nate’s)!
thank you I can relate so much coming from a mexican american backgound. i'm 39 , lesbian, and yeah it sucks. you know in media we subconsciously look for ourselves, and in all my years of searching you have come the closest thank you
27:36 Nate, I didn’t catch on your episode… Do you still have any type of relationship with your family?
Thanks.
thank you for making this video
It's a God thing! Thank you so much for sharing and this channel! It's always me and my fear creating separation not Him.
It would be great to know other gay christians. I don't know any.
24:37 Susie, so when you came out initially, you came out as Bi. However, the name of this episode is “How I Realized I Was Gay”…
So maybe there is more to it - If I continue watching, maybe it will answer this - But do you consider yourself Bi or Gay?
Also - for both of you - do you think there is a perception that only women can be Bi, and that a lot of people think that men cannot be Bi - because they have to be into either one of the sexes, but not the other? What do both of you think of this? Can men be bisexual?
Thanks.
Yes, men can be bi. I didn`t even know that some people say that doesn`t exist. I know some bi men (who have been out like that for years), so that`s one thing. But there is also actual scientific research that proves that bi men and women exist.
I think there is a misconception because some gay and lesbian people come out as bi first even though they actually aren`t. Sometimes because they are unsure themselves, sometimes because they are afraid of the reaction of people and they think it`s safer to say they are bi rather than gay or lesbian.
So yes, bi men exist. There is also some men who are gay who come out as bi first before they announce that they are actually gay, so maybe that`s where the confusion comes from.
Yes, men can be bi. I didn`t even know that some people say that doesn`t exist. I know some bi men (who have been out like that for years), so that`s one thing. But there is also actual scientific research that proves that bi men and women exist.
I think there is a misconception because some gay men come out as bi first. Sometimes because they are unsure themselves, sometimes because they are afraid of the reaction of people and they think it`s safer to say they are bi rather than gay.
So yes, bi men exist and there is also some men who come out as bi who later turn out to actually be gay.
Yes, men can be Bi. I know some Bi men (who have been out like that for years), so that`s one thing. But there is also actual scientific research that proves that Bi men and women exist.
I think there is a misconception because some gay men come out as Bi first. Sometimes because they are unsure themselves, sometimes because they are afraid of the reaction of people and they think it`s safer to say they are Bi rather than gay.
So yes, bi men exist and there is also some men who come out as bi who later turn out to actually be gay.
21:16 However, Nate, in your episode, you said that your brother was completely shocked - so it didn’t seem like he knew, then, right?!
It's a God Thing !!! 😊