How the Nick Foligno Trade To The Leafs Went Down

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024

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  • @stevev8079
    @stevev8079 5 місяців тому +41

    Folded like a cheap suit on the draft pick. He’s all yours Pitt.

  • @deshawntrigga9657
    @deshawntrigga9657 5 місяців тому +86

    Leafs legend Nick Foligno

    • @DarC_25
      @DarC_25 5 місяців тому +3

      he will win a cup with chicago the one thing the leafs cant do

    • @GdF420
      @GdF420 5 місяців тому

      A legend ? Really ?
      That sums it up how complaisant the Leafs (and fans) are

    • @sharon-sn9ys
      @sharon-sn9ys 5 місяців тому +19

      @@GdF420bro doesn’t get sarcasm

    • @alexleblanc5926
      @alexleblanc5926 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@DarC_25 On their coaching staff?

    • @filipberes319
      @filipberes319 5 місяців тому

      @@alexleblanc5926 does it matter?

  • @torontothegood
    @torontothegood 5 місяців тому +56

    Dubas can’t negotiate

  • @ramirer9561
    @ramirer9561 4 місяці тому +7

    Shanny's eye was twitching after the trade lol

  • @NickRants
    @NickRants 4 місяці тому +4

    For some reason Dubas loved to bring guys in at the deadline for them to be injured majority of the time

  • @timfronimos459
    @timfronimos459 5 місяців тому +11

    Why did Dufas walk out of the room when his leadership is right there listening. It aint a secret bro.

  • @Coatay
    @Coatay 5 місяців тому +65

    He clearly lost the negotiation.
    Shanahan should've fired him sooner

    • @alexleblanc5926
      @alexleblanc5926 5 місяців тому +18

      Shanahan needs to fire himself

    • @jon8004
      @jon8004 5 місяців тому +2

      He lost nothing. He's not negotiating from a place of power. Foligno was a seller's market. Toronto was lucky they got him for the reason the scout said at the beginning - they had the weakest first round pick in the draft. Foligno probably preferred Toronto, and Columbus honored that. "clearly lost the negotiation." psssht. what do you know about negotiation?

    • @Coatay
      @Coatay 5 місяців тому +1

      @@jon8004
      a career brokering real estate for foreign buyers

    • @jon8004
      @jon8004 5 місяців тому

      @@Coatay And you say that proudly! Dude, there's no comparison between the NHL trade market and whatever you claim to be doing. The standards are different, the goals are different, and the timelines are wildly different. For one, there's a heck of a lot more scarcity in the NHL trade market than the real estate market. In the NHL, GMs routinely overpay because it's the only way to acquire an asset to address an urgent need. You apparently wanted Dubas to negotiate harder, which suggests that you don't understand all the reasons he didn't.

    • @Coatay
      @Coatay 5 місяців тому +1

      Nice try Kyle

  • @doubllechief6926
    @doubllechief6926 5 місяців тому +45

    Dubas played the young progressive role so well and conned everyone into thinking he knew what he was doing when in reality he got played by everyone he made a trade with and then somehow conned the Penguins into making him President of Operations.

    • @patrickgermanese1050
      @patrickgermanese1050 5 місяців тому +4

      Wow, I thought I was the only one who picked up on what was really going on! He's a weasel who marches in homosexual/gay parades. The Leafs still don't have a solid goaltender. While they are about to watch Frederick Anderson and the Carolina Hurricanes go on a run to the conference final once again.

    • @TheBillaro
      @TheBillaro 5 місяців тому +1

      1000% true.
      fsg will sack him in 2-3 more years.

    • @TheBillaro
      @TheBillaro 5 місяців тому

      @@patrickgermanese1050truth. why did leaf fans run him out of town along with kadri. bunting.
      larry ffing murphy.
      whyyyyyyy

    • @patrickgermanese1050
      @patrickgermanese1050 5 місяців тому

      @@TheBillaro The facts speak for themselves. From wikipedia:
      He began as head coach of the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim, whom he led to the 2003 Stanley Cup Finals. In 2005, Babcock signed with the Detroit Red Wings, winning the Stanley Cup with them in 2008, and helping them to the Stanley Cup playoffs every year during his tenure, becoming the winningest coach in Red Wings history.

    • @steve8803
      @steve8803 5 місяців тому

      @@patrickgermanese1050 Freddie is always injured.

  • @LeafsJellyHD
    @LeafsJellyHD 5 місяців тому +10

    Appreciate these clips, if it’s possible, can you get the game 6/7 with reactions of players.

    • @relelliott
      @relelliott  5 місяців тому +1

      I'll be uploading a full montage in the coming days of the best bits. Will include it!

  • @juju31897
    @juju31897 4 місяці тому +6

    Horrific trade for Leafs

  • @liltiger3
    @liltiger3 4 місяці тому +2

    One of the worst trades in Leafs history.

  • @asharpbflat7179
    @asharpbflat7179 5 місяців тому +6

    That's a great insight!

  • @nonokayakjack
    @nonokayakjack 4 місяці тому +3

    You can see right here how the paralysis and second-guessing creeps into EVERY decision in that market. The post game tradition in the Leafs dressing room after a win is so uptight and robotic it's hard to even watch. I sincerely feel sorry for Leaf players.

  • @panjsheri5682
    @panjsheri5682 4 місяці тому +6

    Waste of a trade. Left after another failed season.

  • @jerryrikki9466
    @jerryrikki9466 5 місяців тому +33

    Kyle dubas is the worst gm in the NHL, no business having that job anymore. Just pure incompetence

    • @jon8004
      @jon8004 5 місяців тому +5

      As a Caps fan, I can't wait to see Dubas win a Cup before Toronto.

    • @eriklakeland3857
      @eriklakeland3857 5 місяців тому +1

      @@jon8004not gonna happen. They both won’t win.

    • @jon8004
      @jon8004 5 місяців тому +1

      @@eriklakeland3857 I agree Toronto may not because their fans and media are just a brutal vice that squeezes the team until it disintegrates. But Dubas is perfectly capable of winning a Cup elsewhere.

    • @jonah.donohue
      @jonah.donohue 4 місяці тому

      ?????

    • @jerryrikki9466
      @jerryrikki9466 4 місяці тому

      @@jon8004 I'm not a Leafs fan and while this seems like a wild maybe hateful take it is just anyalitics. Kyle Dubas let 18 active nhl forwards come and go in his time as GM. Including Matthews and all their big guns, the top 14 of those forwards he didn't signed out scored the Leafs this year by a margin

  • @martingrenier7780
    @martingrenier7780 4 місяці тому +2

    All that to lose to the Habs 🤣🤣

  • @timmanto1022
    @timmanto1022 4 місяці тому +1

    Lots of options but they went for Foligno.

  • @clarke4222
    @clarke4222 3 місяці тому

    You’ve got to be nuts to give up a 1st round pick for Foligno at this stage of his career. But it’s not all on Dubas, everyone in that room was pot committed, you really need someone to step up and say we’re getting a 35 point guy who’s playing in our bottom 6, surely we can find something similar for just a 3rd…… but there is this narrative that you need leadership, true, but not at the deadline. Team leaders start at camp and lead the group all season, it’s next to impossible to come in after the deadline and lead a group of strangers. Yarmo took the Leafs to the cleaners on this on.

  • @dro_dozer
    @dro_dozer 5 місяців тому +5

    What a bum

  • @marcogomes9748
    @marcogomes9748 4 місяці тому

    another great trade by dubas

  • @klausschraud7303
    @klausschraud7303 5 місяців тому +2

    Bad deal considering you lost him the next season

  • @ratedRblazin420
    @ratedRblazin420 3 місяці тому

    Imagine wearing a mask indoors thinking that
    helps
    The NHL should do a documentary like this again except next time follow a team that can actually win a playoff round

  • @Team-Zissou
    @Team-Zissou 4 місяці тому

    Capt. Obvious assistant GM ing for the Leafs. 'there are going to be 3 teams left at the alter'.
    Ya bud, that's kind of how it works.

  • @mojo847
    @mojo847 5 місяців тому

    Dubas trading away all draft picks

  • @GdF420
    @GdF420 5 місяців тому +6

    Does anyone care about this ?

    • @mcj44
      @mcj44 4 місяці тому

      People like you are annoying as fuck.

  • @BurningWater95
    @BurningWater95 5 місяців тому +1

    Wish they'd do another season but the NHL is scared it makes the league look bad.

    • @relelliott
      @relelliott  5 місяців тому +3

      It’s been reported that another series with Amazon Prime and the NHL featuring 10-12 star players will come out this fall

    • @BurningWater95
      @BurningWater95 5 місяців тому

      @@relelliott I heard that on spittin chiclets. Hopefully its good if it happens.

  • @leochirichiello1101
    @leochirichiello1101 4 місяці тому

    Honestly all these guys in the comments know nothing about being a GM and just talk lol bet it’s just the old timers 🤣

  • @Intelpol-fz6hs
    @Intelpol-fz6hs 4 місяці тому

    so bad this look; especially, since it cost us Seth Jarvis and Nick was useless

  • @nateshnowske9583
    @nateshnowske9583 3 місяці тому

    Take of those face diapers!

  • @Noah1997callahan
    @Noah1997callahan 4 місяці тому

    That was an awful trade for the leafs lol

  • @DiscoLeafs
    @DiscoLeafs 4 місяці тому

    and we wonder how Dubas got fleeced in the contractual negotiations with the core four - "whatever" - says it all
    and Shanny oversaw all this. time to go.

  • @codyhertzler2387
    @codyhertzler2387 4 місяці тому +2

    Waste of a franchise

    • @relelliott
      @relelliott  4 місяці тому +1

      Waste of a UA-cam account

    • @Wolfclanxp
      @Wolfclanxp 4 місяці тому +1

      @@relelliott great comeback

    • @relelliott
      @relelliott  4 місяці тому

      @@Wolfclanxp did I ask?

  • @bb-gc2tx
    @bb-gc2tx 4 місяці тому

    looking back now those masks look so stupid on top of the fact they didnt protect you from anything 🤣

  • @ashtonb0419
    @ashtonb0419 4 місяці тому

    nobody gives a fuck about this trade 😭

  • @SnakePlissy
    @SnakePlissy 4 місяці тому

    Lol muzzled dogs on multiple fronts 😂

  • @nipzie
    @nipzie 5 місяців тому +13

    What a useless "wonderboy". Negotiates hard for his own contract and gave RFAs insane contracts, while getting rid of all the first round picks.

    • @jon8004
      @jon8004 5 місяців тому +1

      Dude, all the top teams give away their first-round picks when they're trying to win. I'm a Caps fan. We traded away our first rounder nearly every single year when we were in the thick of it.

    • @nipzie
      @nipzie 4 місяці тому

      @@jon8004 dude....he signed 2nd contract RFAs to league leading contracts, making cap space tight then traded away the only way to get cheap contracts to fill the roster out. He royally fucked up a golden platter of talent

    • @jon8004
      @jon8004 4 місяці тому

      @@nipzie He really didn't. All of the top guys he signed to those contracts could be traded away in a matter of hours for a handsome return. If he fucked up, the Leafs would be trapped. They've never been trapped. If they want out of Marner, they can trade Marner. Tavares? They can trade Tavares. Minnesota is trapped. San Jose, for the longest time, was trapped. Toronto isn't trapped. They've just been giving a core of elite players as much time as possible to convert on their talent. But they could pull the ripcord on any of them tomorrow. If Toronto wants to fill the roster out they can. If they need to trade picks to move money they can. They're in their prime. The goal should not be prospects, but roster-ready players.

  • @doodad19
    @doodad19 5 місяців тому +11

    Should have gotten Mike Foligno instead

  • @jetsdude8
    @jetsdude8 5 місяців тому +5

    He overpaid as he always did. He's a little boy playing a video game and reacting to pressure rather than logic

  • @zackashby9741
    @zackashby9741 3 місяці тому +2

    "we're the lowest value for our first" bold statement Mr First round exits

  • @PlebWRLD
    @PlebWRLD 5 місяців тому +4

    Reading the texts during the call, its interesting to see who the leafs were interested when adding D
    Kulikov for a 3rd
    Gologoski for a 2nd
    Oesterle for a 3rd
    and maybe Pateryn

  • @cmpaintball131
    @cmpaintball131 4 місяці тому +4

    This aged like milk

  • @davesway1170
    @davesway1170 4 місяці тому +3

    One of Dubas' many busts as the Toronto Maple Leafs Gm

  • @brettfavreify
    @brettfavreify 2 місяці тому +1

    Expensive for a rental.

  • @dslking
    @dslking 4 місяці тому

    Surrounded himself by yes guys. Where were the guys saying its Nick Foligno!!!!

  • @Hahahawhatsup
    @Hahahawhatsup 4 місяці тому

    Nick Folingo really helped, thanks Dubas

  • @HunterMagunter
    @HunterMagunter 4 місяці тому

    Leafs are a joke

  • @MikeTheKoopaWarrior
    @MikeTheKoopaWarrior 4 місяці тому

    All For Nothing

  • @bb-gc2tx
    @bb-gc2tx 4 місяці тому

    dubas is so typical of guys in his generation total beta

  • @SilvioBadaBing
    @SilvioBadaBing 4 місяці тому

    Wasn’t he dealt to San Jose and then Toronto to make it work ?

  • @eriklakeland3857
    @eriklakeland3857 5 місяців тому

    Dubas should’ve been canned years ago.

  • @redfisher5378
    @redfisher5378 5 місяців тому +3

    LOL… the masks.😂

  • @TH1RDP3RSON
    @TH1RDP3RSON 4 місяці тому

    why is Bojack Horseman narrating this 😭

  • @Luda1010
    @Luda1010 5 місяців тому +10

    why the hell are they wearing masks?

    • @Lekky93
      @Lekky93 5 місяців тому +12

      Remember Covid? It was only what... 3-4 years ago.

    • @bangbangyoureaboolean1324
      @bangbangyoureaboolean1324 5 місяців тому +9

      Do you even know what you're watching?

    • @Lekky93
      @Lekky93 5 місяців тому +12

      @@bangbangyoureaboolean1324 I don't think bro knows what planet he on

    • @SnakePlissy
      @SnakePlissy 4 місяці тому

      Because they’re corporate sheep 🐑