Identity of man hit by roller coaster at Kings Island revealed, expert speaks on situation
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2024
- He's 38-year-old Arntanaro Nelson from Wilmington, Ohio. Nelson is at UC Medical Center, reportedly with a severe head injury: tinyurl.com/8hajrekk
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No, I'm sorry but entering a restricted area, hopping two fences, and putting yourself in a known path of a coaster doing 70 miles an hour, is not "expected human behavior". It's ignorant, selfish, stupid behavior. I don't agree with the expert on this one. Regardless of how many safety measures you put in place, you just can't stop stupid. This man was going to go retrieve his keys regardless of the obstacles he needed to get past.
He probably doesn't believe crime is real......soft belly
Having been in law enforcement for 25 years, I have learned that the “expert “ is usually paid to give the answer/statement you want.
Maybe they should have put up electric fences then they would have been sued when a 38 yr old adult got zapped by it.
He’s not even an “expert”, he says engineers need to count for stupid people’s behavior but 2 tall fences should be enough unless you don’t have brain cells.
@@Wildcattttt What he's saying is that there's historical precedent that those measures were not adequate to protect the area, so the park had the ability to know better. It's not that the guy isn't at fault for being a self-entitled idiot, but it is about the park having actual, tangible evidence that the measures they had taken are not adequate to prevent what they were trying to prevent. It doesn't mean the park is going to lose in court, but it does mean that there is at least some actual evidence supporting a lawsuit.
Not the parks fault! It's not their job to babysit adults that don't want to listen to park personnel and can't obey park rules and warning signs. It's a sad situation and i feel bad this happened and people on the ride were traumatized yet it's the man's own fault.
Even if they can't read, they surely understand the function of a fence, right? That's totally on them.
He's explaining the way the law works. But, multiple fences that close to a roller coaster ought to be enough for most people to reconsider if what they're doing was a good idea. And, most signs are of a color that is recognizable as being a warning sign and typically with images that convey that there's a risk without needing to know English.
"Sir, dont jump in that pool of electric eels"
"YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!"
So they want to blame the theme park for stupid people hopping the fence and getting hit by a roller coaster 😂
From what a park employee said in a different video, it wasn't just one fence and warning there was a second fence as well. The guy had to jump 2 fences to get to that section.
At some point, the law does need to just acknowledge that it's an arms race and the side building the better idiots always seems to come out on top as there is no limit on stupidity.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade yeah I've heard park employees say that he trespassed into employee only rooms in order to get into the area where he got hit. He did a lot more than just jumping a single fence it seems
Update: he died. I feel bad for his wife and kids 😔
IKR, ridiculous.
No way they’re trying to blame the theme park on this one. I’ve been there. Nobody in their right mind would try to hop the fence of Banshee.
I've seen a few people suggesting that the park is to blame for not stopping the ride to get the man his keys. But, the vast majority of people are rightly on the side of the park that he had to jump multiple fences and even without signs, people should be expected to recognize that fences exist for a reason.
@@SmallSpoonBrigadeI think both are at fault. Him jumping the fence and the park saying they couldn't go looking for them until they closed when it would take a whole 15 mins to shut down the ride and go and get them then restart it perform a test run and let people back on.
@@johncase1353 people lose things on rides all the time. If you had to shut down everytime someone lost something you'd never open. And a lot of people lose things in the park but aren't sure where or what ride. That's a lot of down time for one person to be happy. When a lot more people will be happy if the ride stays open until close. Like seriously why would they ever close down early to retrieve something you lost. You are responsible for your items at the park you lost it it's on you. They'll give it back if they can find it when it's convenient for them and the rest of the guests. They won't inconvenience the whole park for one person.
@@SmallSpoonBrigadeyou can't stop the ride. Once it goes down the lift hill there's no stoping it. There's no breaks until the end of the ride meaning even if you see the man the second the coaster has started to go down the hill it's too late.
@SmallSpoonBrigade at most it took them like 5 minutes, it takes maybe a minute to dispatch each train, and there’s 3 trains on the track most of the time… by the time the train that hit the guy they probably saw the blood or whatever and knew something bad happened, the staff e-stopped the ride and then they closed the ride down 10 minutes later after trying to see what happened
Not only did the man break the rules and hop multiple barriers blocking the public from the area, but the guy had zero situational awareness as to where the coaster was. Absolutely mindless situation and nobody in their right mind would blame the park. Strongest case of Darwinism I've seen all year
Its not the parks fault, especially when the man was told by park staff that they cannot shutdown the ride to look for lost items. He would have just had to wait til park closing. Its sad he was injured but it was his bad decision.
Not the park's fault the guy didn't have the patience to wait until closing to pick up his keys. Mr Self Entitled ignored the warning about loose items before getting on the ride, ignored the warnings of not 1 but 2 fences, and ignored the safety of other park visitors. His stupid action most likely traumatized not only his children but the people who were on the ride at the time.
The guy was begging the worker to let him through to where he wasn't supposed to go to find his keys and the worker showed him the sign and told him he couldn't go into that area, yet the guy went on to find another way to cross into the area where he shouldn't be and was hit so it's entirely his fault! Not the worker's fault or King's Islands fault!
Even if people can’t read, those fences are there for a reason…… The level of stupidity in people astounds me more and more!
This is why the main rule is dont have any lose objects in your pocket when getting onto a roller coaster. The employee is in no rush to shut down the ride, call in maintenance (who are the only ones eith the keys to get into the ride area) to go look for something you should have left in a locker.
Anything can come loose from your pockets/body on any coaster. All loose articles should be placed in designated areas before boarding any ride. He could've easily waited until the park closed to obtain his keys. The fact that this man ignored those initial park safety protocols, and followed by completely disregarding the posted warnings and protective fences, makes him 100% at fault.
I don’t know how he even lost them considering the fact that I accidentally brought my phone on Wildcat’s Revenge (an extremely intense ride) and it didn’t fall out.
Adding sensors to the part of the track where the ride reaches 68 mph wouldn’t do anything as the ride is traveling on momentum from the first drop and it can’t just come a complete stop during the ride and it’s kinda stupid how this dude got hit by a rollercoaster traveling fast and it’s also very loud. As a rollercoaster enthusiast I have ridden raptor at Cedar Point and heard it from off ride and it is extremely loud and from what I’ve heard banshee has no noise dampening and the ride cycles around every 1 1/2 minute so that should be at least enough time to dodge a moving coaster train (this doesn’t mean grab your stuff from that area if you happen to lose it as this has almost always happened when someone tries to retrieve a loose article they lost on these B&M inverted coasters (the ride type that banshee and raptor are)
Agreed. This "expert" has no idea what he's talking about. Trying to blame the park on this one? Yeah right.
Banshee does have noise dampening like all modern B&M coasters do. There's sand in the rails.
I think he was talking about installing motion sensors on the fencing to detect intruders. I think a camera system with motion detection would be even better, and they would be able to confirm a legitimate issue before stopping ride. I'm sure that's probably something they're considering.
@@nicholasmiles671 no it's not. This happens when you are stupid. They follow strict protocols to make sure this isn't something frequently but there's nothing the park needs to do more. Plus once the ride has left the lift hill till it gets to the end of the ride it can't be stopped so it's a waste of money
@nicholasmiles671 or maybe, just maybe… don’t be fucking stupid enough to climb 2 fences into a lockout zone… and also be hit by a train, still don’t know how people manage to be hit by a train like holy shit do people have negative spacial awareness?
Someone people who go to Amusement Parks think they're above the employees who works there, and the guests have an attitude, F you and your Safety Protocols!! Well who got F-ed Now? The guy who got struck by a Banshee Rollercoaster Train traveling at 68mph. And It Won!! The signs around any Amusement Park Ride that read in big bold letters RESTRICTED AREA AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL ONLY, Means JUST THAT!!! Kings Island,or Cedar Point did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG HERE, and are not accountable for someone's STUPIDITY!!!
No it doesn't take a lot of intelligence to know not to go in a enclosed area know matter what language you speak. That's why all the signs have pictograms on them.
Plus the very obvious fact you're in the path of a roller coaster.
@@johndegaris4673Also the very loud “roar” noises that these types of rides make. Very loud and easy to hear, he was probably deaf and blind lmao
Banshee has been operating for 10 years, and I seriously doubt this man was the first to lose his keys on the ride in that time. The fact that this is the first time it's happened at this ride speaks to how well-protected the area is. If anything, it's further proof that if someone wants to do something bad enough, like trespass into a deadly restricted area, they will find a way. If "expert" wants to prove his case in court, he'll have an uphill battle.
It's a horrible situation and RIP Nelson, but this is the wrong place to focus that energy.
banshee is a female spirit in Irish folklore who heralds the death of a family member, usually by screaming, wailing, shrieking, or keening. The ride lives up to her name
it’s also (kinda) took the place of Son Of Beast, which was also infamous after the 2006 incident
“Necessary guards to keep them from happening”! Yeah, two fences!
And signs. And the obvious fact a roller coaster is going to appear any second.
Can’t be that much of an expert if he’s blaming the park for people making stupid decisions. If you’re stupid enough to hop fences to a restricted area, what happens is on YOU not the park.
Forensic investigator Al Vangura has no idea what he's talking about. Not the parks issue here.
First off, the Banshee has been OPEN since last Friday! News channels like this should be sued for reporting false information that hurts a company’s business. Nobody rushed out to announce it’s back open. And oh yeah, the park would look beautiful with RAZOR WIRE on all the fences. The guy jumped two fences that were marked as prohibited and got killed. Case closed.
Exactly, the news is so dumb, and also, that person wasn’t an “expert” lol
It didn’t open until Saturday. It was closed Thursday and Friday.
He hopped two fences and passed multiple signs! Why is this the parks fault! Oh come. No they are trying to say he couldn’t read? He spoke English!
I'm curious about what part of the world it is where you can climb over multiple fences into an area with fast moving machinery and expect nothing bad will happen. This is one of those things where reading the signs shouldn't be necessary. He clearly knew that what he was doing was unsafe and did it anyways.
If you invent better safe guards, you just get improved idiots. At some point, you just have to acknowledge that stupid people can be surprisingly innovative in the ways that they're stupid. This is one death of one person that did something that no reasonable person would do, I'm sure that day alone there were hundreds of people that rode the ride safely and probably thousands that were able to figure out how to not get hit.
I personally feel far worse about the people who were riding along and got splashed with blood and otherwise injured.
Mandatory free lockers would solve most of these problems. No keys, wallets or irreplaceable items.
I'll bet people would still keep them on them.
No it wouldn't
no it won’t (I’ll explain unlike the other guy)
there are bins on the sides of most stations, there are bins in the station of banshee… put those items in those bins… boom problem solved
@@ryan-uk6jfExactly, and we don’t know if he took his kids or wife on it. So let’s just say they didn’t, hmmmm I wonder what to do here, I don’t know, maybe LEAVING IT WITH A NON-RIDER?!
@@ryan-uk6jf there are no bins in banshee, Orion, flight of fear, and mystic timbers.
That's insanity! That guy made a conscious decision to disobey rules. He's lucky to be alive! He doesn't deserve a penny.
He's dead.
Hope nothing happens to Banshee. Great coaster.
Would be like closing down a bridge because somebody jumped off it. Or a freeway because someone ran across it at rush hour.
Banshee is back open with no change in procedures that I'm aware of.
perfect analogies lmao
You don't go on a coastal walk and jump off the cliff...
The guy interviewed is the type of mf to blame the owner of a car for a guy purposfully jumping in front of it
The family is messed up and delusional, if they try and sue all because their loved one broke the rules and lost his life! Anybody with a working brain knows better than to tresspass in restricted areas, even if the door was open!
There were only 2 fences he needed to climb? No armed guards protecting people from their own stupidity.
Not sure why, but Kings Island decided not to invest in an army of security robots to guard the coaster perimeters. Had the security robots only been in place, this would have never happened.
… you act like one fence wasn’t enough? you can’t stop stupidity, end of story.
@@ryancampbell955Lol
He died this morning from his injuries. Those keys were not worth his life.
While this is a sad situation you can’t seriously be trying to blame the park for this one. At some point people have to be responsible. I mean people know that going out in moving traffic is dangerous. The same should be true for roller coasters. The man was old enough to know better.
Not only did the guy JUMP a fence & ignore WARNING signs, but he was ALSO CLEARLY told by employees that the keys could NOT be retrieved until the ride was shut down for the day.
But Yeah, HE'S the victim here because "the park didn't do enough". Freeakin unbelievable.
That'll leave a mark...
Leave it to lawyers to find a way to reward foolish people!
guess he wanted a front row ride on the Banshee.
What is the point of a fence? To keep people out.
This is such a bizarre angle for the news channel to use in an attempt to cover the story.
Also, I am curious how the gentleman named Al can take himself seriously as a human being if his first thought is “yes, the fence was there… yes, the man climbed over the fence while the ride was in operation… but King’s Island officials need to be held responsible for the fact that this man deliberately disobeyed warnings and put his own life in danger.”
Circular logic, anyone?
Oh god...listen to this fuckin lawyer!!
Put up electric fences?
expensive as fuck, no idea why they would do that when 2 fences were enough for 10 years and probably longer than that, these accidents happen like once every 3 years or so
lol no just don’t be stupid, that’s all the parks expect. just don’t be an idiot and you’ll be perfectly fine.
@PolluxTroy-hl5wh I’m like what else is going to work at this point. To keep people safe.
The guy arguing against the park is delusional. The guy was told by employees that he needed to wait so they could turn off the ride, and he didn't wanna hear it.
This is the customers fault!
There's only so much you can do to protect people from their own stupidity.
He was plenty old enough to know better.
It's sad that this happened, but COMMON SENSE should tell someone that if it's a fenced off area, then one should not enter said area. But common sense does seem to be lacking nowadays.
I go to SixFlags nearly every week and I bring my backpack purse to carry my keys, wallet, phones, etc...if I get tired of carrying my fiancé carries it....and before getting on a ride I sit it on the ground or in the cubby's there meant for guests items. We don't dare try to get on any rides with things in our pockets. Plus, there are literally signs all over the park that say do not get on any ride with loose articles in your possession.
They could add some kind of Alarm is someone climbs on the Fence - a Sensor of some kind - but there should be mandatory jail time for anyone Climbing the Fence in a restricted area and to PROTECT people from Serious Injurty if they do break the rules. I hope the guy recovers but he knew what he was doing was dangerous and did it anyway - that is crazy!!
Alarm wouldn't help once the train has left the lift there's no stoping it. And it is illegal to be in the restricted area if he made it out alive he very likely would of been in legal trouble
Electrify the fence?
The man has passed away, I feel for his loved ones.
he died
womp womp
fr he shouldn't have jumped that damn fence, people these days have no common fucking sense-
It's a shame that people like this are allowed to vote, let alone have kids.
this has literally nothing to do with politics, quit bringing in things that have nothing to do with the topic
He can't vote or have anymore kids he's dead and he had children in the park when this happened.
@phantomhourglass13 I think it’s more about “how smart threat are” or “how responsible they are” cuz iv seen a LOT of people not being responsible anymore nowdays…
So many people think they are invincible…😢
He wasn't
Easy fix, make the fences higher and unclimbable!
When i heard about this im like dude ur 38 years old, old enough to know by now. Just stupid, shouldn't be driving either. Sorry i sound mean and rude but he should of known better. Whoever he was with should of stopped him too.
While I have sympathy for Mr Nelson’s friends and family, I find it very hard to have sympathy for Mr Nelson himself. It should be common sense that you don’t go into ride areas while the ride is running, and you especially don’t in without permission from the park owners. Mr Nelson’s own stupidity got him killed, and I find it hard to have sympathy those who die by their own stupid actions. Not only has he left his friends and family grief stricken, but his selfishness has also shut down this coaster for god knows how long, denying park goers one of their favourite rides.
Take this as a lesson people: If you sod around, you find out.
Legend says that lady is still standing silent, waiting for you to tap subscribe..
I hope he's okay
He died
he died
To me it’s only dangerous to hop the fence on coasters that have feet dangling like inverted coasters and also if you climb on the track
You are wrong.
I mean it’s dangerous either way, I think wing coasters are so much worse cuz it’s on the side of the track, but its still dangerous regardless to enter a lockout zone
So let me get this straight putting up DO NOT ENTER and DANGER SIGNS which shouldn't just be in English (how many languages would have to be done 30-40 were in America speak English) Fences saying Danger do not enter a park employee telling him they would get his keys after they closed because they couldn't stop the ride and it's still the parks fault REALLY. The only person that's responsible is the moron that climbed over 2 fences in a restricted area to get a set of keys. This is what's wrong with this country nobody is ever responsible for their own actions it's always someone elses fault.
Usually about around age 44 Roller Coaster NBD I really enjoy watching and listening eating allot one ride then done for the day yup
If ppl want their shit, they'll find a way to get it. The not being able to read stuff is crap. Im sure ppl ask the staff first about getit then take matters into their own hands 😮
Stop making excuses for stupid people. What makes this guy an expert? if he was an expert he would know the details.. but yet he seems clueless.
stupid people are always looking for compensation for their poor actions
Sorry but what the heck would “motion detectors” do?
A motion sensor would tell the staff that someone is inside the restricted area, so they can shut down the ride.
@@VeganDoris yhour aware shutting down the ride would do nothi ng at the speed it goes?
@@VeganDoris Roller coasters are gravity powered lol. After they leave the lift hill you can’t stop them.
@@S.J.C._EntertainmentExactly lol, it’s not like their powered unlike some powered coasters
@@cppfan1 You’re aware that as soon as the first fence is breached, the roller coaster that is out can make it back to the beginning before the second fence is breached. Then the ride operators can choose not to send the next roller coaster out until they check to see what happened.
No speak English, No park admission.
Shutting down the ride if someone gets past a fench is smart
No one was going to get the keys for him. You drop something its gone. You cant leave it no where because people steal things. Shut these useless parks down. I remember when the son of beast the only wooden coster with a loop. I rode that so much one year come to find out someone was beheaded on it. It has long been torn down. God help us save that one closest to hell in Jesus name amen.
Sorry but the park will be sued. Unfortunately, people are extremely stupid and they are responsible for protecting some really stupid people. A child could have done the same thing.
Good sue the park. I hope they counter sue for emotional distress caused by him.
@@redranger8603 Hey I agree, but unfortunately they will be sued.
@@elaine1743 whoever sues I'm pretty sure is public information and I'll make sure to send them a letter non threatening telling them they are idiots
@@redranger8603 Yeah the guy is an idiot!
It was his fault end of story
If you can't read English you should NOT be in an English speaking/reading park until you have the knowledge for your own safety !!! IT'S NOT THE PARKS FAULT FOR THIS CLOWNS IMPATIENCE !!!
So,...whos the genius? Nothing was identified Local 12 crap station
It’s in the description
The man couldn't leave without his keys and he told them he needed them over and over. they should have stopped the coaster long enough for a park member to get his keys and this would have never happened so the park is somewhat at fault
They couldn’t! Stop blaming the park
That's an excuse, most parking lots offer lockout service, if anything in his car was that urgent, he could have gotten it. And many amusement parks are close enough to town that you can get a cab or bus back into town if you need to. It's highly unlikely that this was his only set of keys.
And at the end of the day, this is a bit like when I locked my keys in the office at work years ago. They were master keys and I was very lucky that they were locked in a room that nobody had access to the keys without a key. His keys were safe, but it could have taken a long time to find them, especially if they bounced in a weird way or got under something.
What in the world? You can't just shut down the coaster randomly. They told him they'd help him get his keys at the end of the night. He only needed to wait two hours. So what? Go get a drink, and ice cream, or whatever, go have a seat and relax. His decision to ignore park policy and take it upon himself to enter a dangerous area and put himself in the path of an active coaster was his own fault. I swear, people have zero patience anymore and are arrogant enough to think they're above the rules. This guy was 100% at fault. Plain and simple.
If you don’t want to lose your keys don’t bring them on a roller coaster.
Well,...he did'nt obey the signs to not enter the country illegally ,......why would he obey these signs,........he was taught respect the hard way
We live in a litigious society and paying heavily for it. I'm pretty sure coasters, like Banshee and Raptor, won't be swooping low to the ground anymore. It's hard to secure every square foot of ride space. If coasters didn't go below 10 or 12 feet... this type if incident simply could not happen. Sad to say because it's thrilling to ride so close to the ground. I love Banshee.
i doubt a dumbass being a dumbass will have any effect on the design of layouts for future b&m inverts
No this will change nothing. Just like all the other inverted coasters that killed people it's stupid people that die due to stupid decisions nothing the park can control or stop.
After looking at the guys photo I know exactly why he thought he could do whatever he wants.. its a culture thing.. I feel absolutely no pity at all.
Racist. The reason he wanted his keys was to leave. And he did leave in an ambulance. And then died a few days later. His race had nothing to do with him being an idiot. He just was an idiot.