Looks like I have to do a FAQ as this video has been so popular: 1) No Jaycar do not sell this scope for $5, you can't but it anywhere. I got it at a clearance dumpster sale. 2) No I could not buy two of them to swap parts, I was very lucky to get the last one. A minute or two later and it would have been gone. 3) No I cannot ship it to country X. International postage is expensive, so I will give it away to a local kid here in Australia if it gets fixed. I don't care if you think that's unfair.
That was my thought too, looks like one of the cables is for the 4 pin PoE header. The three holes in the back of the case, with the silver standoffs, would be the board location.
@asdad asdasd Yeah like every hobbist ow 5 figure scope multimeter and every other lab equipment which they use couple of times in year. Very expensive scopes are used daily in R&D labs.
@asdad asdasd I respectfully disagree. The cheap one has many advantages ...you can use it in the rain, loan it out or test something dubious without fear of loosing five figures.
The cheap DIGITECH/Hantek PC scopes work really great with the OpenHantek software! I use mine almost daily on my Windows machine and am really happy with it.
What kind of isolation do they have between the sensing side and the computer, any chance of blowing up your PC? Ideally you’d have opto-isolation at or just before the USB, or maybe after the ADC. I’d also like to know what kind of front-end protection they have for the scope itself.
11:20 It’s for a raspberry pi! Hence the 5V supply, Hdmi Passthrough cable, 40 pin gpio connector and the chassis cutout. It might be a bit of work but have a look at running retropie or retroarch on it.
@EEVblog2 Some punks with arcades have complete build images on the internet. The legality of most builds should be questioned. You can install the buttons using GPIOnext (refer to the XC9062 manual).
I also have one, one thing that annoys me is that they didn't implement the bode plot like they (falsely) advertised. It really just shows you the gain and phase shift at a specific frequency, not a plot.
The broken scope looks exactly like the Hantek one I have: DSO4102 - and yes, you can use the sig-gen and the scope at the same time, the button switches the UI. (EDIT: typed faster than you talked :D )
We use those USB scopes all the time in custom test jig setups and to digitize analog equipment 40-80 MS/s for $40-60 with a full frontend and reasonably accurate, can't go wrong! as far as software goes, some sigrok modules exist but the protocol is extremely simple
Also to verify, the scope appears to have 'booted up' so a new screen will fix it if compatible. You can use the DSO and the signal generator - but you switch screens to view the output waveform of the generator when setting it... Apparently it uses the front USB like it does the SD-card slot, you can save waveform captures as csv. The rear one interfaces with a computer, according to the manual. I think you can bring up the display... I gotta play around with my one a bit more - good to know about that coin-cell in there, something to replace every few years...
That generic screen is actually not all compatible with others, I have some of them and it actually flipped or only display the full image on 1 small corner and just like.. duplicate it for the rest of the screen
Had that same scope, with the same problem. Found the -7 volt supply was failing and going high voltage. When I found it, and replaced the regulator, it had destroyed the chip used for Sync. Scope worked, but had no working sync. That part was unobtanium.. Gave the scope away. Sorry no longer have it to send you the screen. Be sure to check that -7 volt regulator.
You can control the screenwrecked oscilloscope/sig-gen from the USB as well. Specs for sig-gen was written on screen under the scope specs: Scope: 100 MHz, 1G Sa/s Gen: 250MHz, 200M Sa/s
If the Digitech USB scopes are re-badged Hanteks, the use a Cirrus Logic PSoC and a couple of AD converter ICs. Pretty simple in terms of major component count, but quite usable for basic scoping.
What is the USBXI interface? It should be able to control these modules when plugged in a chassis, but I couldn't find really useful information and manuals.
It is nice that you took from the Coulomb rich to give to the electron poor. Hopefully that scope gets a working screen. I guess the "easy repair" stuff went quick.
My impression of the Hantek USB scopes isn't the best, especially the software (didn't someone make a better replacement free online?), but 20MHz can be way more than you need for many jobs and when you need a scope a low end one can be way better than none. We can't all work in the MHz range, some signals only go to kHz. ;) Great idea for a giveaway!
@@ed-jf3xh Maybe, but that's by no means standard. I just checked the manual on my Hantek 4072c (almost identical to the one in the video), and it only mentions using it for a flash drive.
Finally it seems you took some of those to test!!!! I hope.. I will already give a like for the pleasure of listening you say Hantek, because I hope to see you reviewing DSO4102C in my lifetime.. 4:00 well I have one in front of me now and it really seems to be the same.
Edit: have one of those panels sitting in a cupboard here somewhere Must be nice being able to go to things like this. I live in rural SA..... Not much going on around here obviously.
Even if the screen isn't working, you can plug in the USB port and see if you can control it and get measurements off of it. Then you'll be able to see if the rest of it is working before going to lengths to repair it.
I hope you bagged some components. Hopefully they had some semiconductors and LED devices too. The 16x2 LCD displays can come in handy for the not-so-demanding microcontroller projects too.
Would really love to see full investigation and repair on the Hantek 4000c scope that you got with that display damage, especially if there's anything wrong with it besides display. Hey a Pandora without a PCB is a decent catch too. Big metal console with all the controls on it, and like sure they're your standard knockoff grade, but arcade style controllers for home consoles, when those were a thing, in the 16bit era, were often worse, much much worse. That power amp is MUCH nicer than Dynavox miniamps that you could get back here a while back as well. USB scopes - nice as well, for sure will help someone along.
I honestly would be happy to have any oscilloscope right now... My Rigol firmware just died on me and I'm outta budget to buy another, even used one. ((
@@leisergeist That's the oldschool way. A lot of top end consumer grade sound systems from the 90's era used that method. Now it's digitally controlled pots or just done in software (DSP).
You can buy a board for that arcade stick for about £40....they are pretty good for the money, mine does ps1 and some Dreamcast and a couple of n64 games. It's a hell of a thing to get out when you get back from the pub emulation is fine enough for oldschool arcade beatemups
Probably got screen damage being tossed about in sale warehouse. i imagine they are not too gentle with the devices when they are accepting 5 dollors for them.
Looks like I have to do a FAQ as this video has been so popular:
1) No Jaycar do not sell this scope for $5, you can't but it anywhere. I got it at a clearance dumpster sale.
2) No I could not buy two of them to swap parts, I was very lucky to get the last one. A minute or two later and it would have been gone.
3) No I cannot ship it to country X. International postage is expensive, so I will give it away to a local kid here in Australia if it gets fixed. I don't care if you think that's unfair.
Dude that might be a collectors item. Digitech brand is under the hammond unbrella and digitech is no longer making guitar effects pedals.
@@eternalfire2234 Digitech (the jaycar brand) is chinesium. no sane person would collect chinesium
A lucky kid 😂
Please give it to some kid that will use it! Fun!
@@eternalfire2234 It's the same Digitech? I assumed it was a Chinese knockoff company with no regard for trademark.
That arcade machine is meant to use a raspberry pi as the mainboard, hence the microusb and hdmi connectors.
That was my thought, someone's robbed it and returned it.
@@Monkeh616 Nah these units brand new never came with any inside. It was meant to be DIY. They didnt sell well.
That was my thought too, looks like one of the cables is for the 4 pin PoE header. The three holes in the back of the case, with the silver standoffs, would be the board location.
@@Anzac97 Oh, well, at least there wasn't any scummery involved.
That makes sense, thanks. In that case I will be able to get it up and running.
Oh my gosh, for $5 you should have bought two with different issues then you could swap parts. That looked like a once in a lifetime dream sale! Wow.
Sale in my country for that kind of ewuipment is like 5% off at max. Jaycar seems to be like dream.
@asdad asdasd Yep but I don't own one of those :))
@asdad asdasd 2022 and now "scope-shaming" is a thing... who'd have thought...
@asdad asdasd Yeah like every hobbist ow 5 figure scope multimeter and every other lab equipment which they use couple of times in year. Very expensive scopes are used daily in R&D labs.
@asdad asdasd I respectfully disagree. The cheap one has many advantages ...you can use it in the rain, loan it out or test something dubious without fear of loosing five figures.
The cheap DIGITECH/Hantek PC scopes work really great with the OpenHantek software! I use mine almost daily on my Windows machine and am really happy with it.
^---lmao. spot the linux user. (jk)
What kind of isolation do they have between the sensing side and the computer, any chance of blowing up your PC? Ideally you’d have opto-isolation at or just before the USB, or maybe after the ADC. I’d also like to know what kind of front-end protection they have for the scope itself.
@@Palmit_ oh yes, because the only people who mention the Matrix as but one of the alternatives are those who broke out of it :D
@@Scrogan Even if it doesn't have isolation, I seem to recall usb isolators are rather cheap, like $10-15.
@@vgamesx1 and usually very slow at that price, sadly...
Arcade is for the raspberry pi board. The moment i saw the 3 holes in the back I knew that's what it needed, teardown just confirmed it.
the amp at the end is a powerhouse, its still kicking in the store for over 3 years
10:00 that is definitely a pi case, the screw posts, the micro USB supply, the 40 pin connector, it all matches
11:20 It’s for a raspberry pi! Hence the 5V supply, Hdmi Passthrough cable, 40 pin gpio connector and the chassis cutout.
It might be a bit of work but have a look at running retropie or retroarch on it.
Is there an SD card image available?
Yep, 40-pin GPIO header and the square holes are for the USB and Ethernet ports
Looks like you have to swap some pins around. There is a video on here titled "Pandora's Box arcade with Raspberry Pi GPIO Controller"
yes only fits the 3b+ ... it was really nicely made when I first saw it come in
@EEVblog2 Some punks with arcades have complete build images on the internet. The legality of most builds should be questioned. You can install the buttons using GPIOnext (refer to the XC9062 manual).
I have the Hantek 4000 series, it's a pretty decent unit and it's sig gen is quite clean. I'm sure you can get the display
I also have one, one thing that annoys me is that they didn't implement the bode plot like they (falsely) advertised. It really just shows you the gain and phase shift at a specific frequency, not a plot.
@@longpham-sj5sv sigrok with some plugin perhaps? Could be a solution 🤔🤓
@@longpham-sj5sv Maybe with a firmware update (just wondering).
@@TheStuartstardust Hantek is listed as supported by sigrok!
@@TheStuartstardust maybe but the last time I checked sigrok, it wasn't on the supported device list
The broken scope looks exactly like the Hantek one I have: DSO4102 - and yes, you can use the sig-gen and the scope at the same time, the button switches the UI. (EDIT: typed faster than you talked :D )
Oh dear dave! Laughing my arse off with the missing Pi
We use those USB scopes all the time in custom test jig setups and to digitize analog equipment
40-80 MS/s for $40-60 with a full frontend and reasonably accurate, can't go wrong!
as far as software goes, some sigrok modules exist but the protocol is extremely simple
Oh hey, that's actually a pretty good use for those.
That arcade joystick thing definitley takes a Raspberry Pi.
Also to verify, the scope appears to have 'booted up' so a new screen will fix it if compatible.
You can use the DSO and the signal generator - but you switch screens to view the output waveform of the generator when setting it...
Apparently it uses the front USB like it does the SD-card slot, you can save waveform captures as csv. The rear one interfaces with a computer, according to the manual. I think you can bring up the display... I gotta play around with my one a bit more - good to know about that coin-cell in there, something to replace every few years...
Maybe the usb scope software can be used on the cracked display unit.
Possible!
If those usb scopes are Hantek then it looks like sigrok might have support.
Why don't we have these kinds of sales in Sweden? Sooo much envy
That generic screen is actually not all compatible with others, I have some of them and it actually flipped or only display the full image on 1 small corner and just like.. duplicate it for the rest of the screen
Dave, use a raspberry pi, with retropi the holes on the back shouls align with usb and lan on the pi as well as the holes
for mounting
Had that same scope, with the same problem. Found the -7 volt supply was failing and going high voltage. When I found it, and replaced the regulator, it had destroyed the chip used for Sync. Scope worked, but had no working sync. That part was unobtanium.. Gave the scope away. Sorry no longer have it to send you the screen. Be sure to check that -7 volt regulator.
You can control the screenwrecked oscilloscope/sig-gen from the USB as well.
Specs for sig-gen was written on screen under the scope specs:
Scope: 100 MHz, 1G Sa/s
Gen: 250MHz, 200M Sa/s
You're so lucky to be able to access these. Where I live there's nothing like it.
Word of warning, after a few years of swap meets and liquidation sales, space will become extremely hard to find.
1:57 Could really use a USB 'scope for sharing waveforms on UA-cam. Pointing a camera at a real 'scope is less than ideal.
Having any kind of scope would be a godsend to me, many occasions where I needed one and considered using an old phone mic input
If the Digitech USB scopes are re-badged Hanteks, the use a Cirrus Logic PSoC and a couple of AD converter ICs. Pretty simple in terms of major component count, but quite usable for basic scoping.
Oh my, that power amplifier has motorized knob 😍
What is the USBXI interface?
It should be able to control these modules when plugged in a chassis, but I couldn't find really useful information and manuals.
Hi Dave…. I would love to have a usb scope
Say what brand of turntables were those at 0:21?
they seem to look pretty decent turntables!
For the USB scopes, there's open source OpenHantek software that works. The included software doesn't work
Drop a Retropie in there!!
Take that arcade machine, a raspberry pi and build a game with your kids from scratch.
Hi, I'm a student, next month I'm starting Electronic engineering, if you can send me one of those USB oscilloscopes that would be awesome.👌
those 13.8v 40a power supplies are for ham radios but also make great car battery chargers - could sell those dead easy
Where is it at Dave and when they do it again
It is nice that you took from the Coulomb rich to give to the electron poor. Hopefully that scope gets a working screen. I guess the "easy repair" stuff went quick.
I've been needing a scope for yonks, even one of the 20meg ones would be fine for most waveforms I'd be looking at
oh yes please, I gave mine scope to my brother long ago, now I regret it. Need to go to one of these sales
@EEVblog2 - probl want to blur the part around 1:43 - ish. if you get what i mean Dave ;)
why 🤷♂️
@@AttilaTheHun333333 i can't tell you. It's confidential.
@@Palmit_ there is nothing confidential on that paper, lol. I mean, there was a time when phonebooks existed.
@@AttilaTheHun333333 yes.. but not WORLDWIDE phonebooks. LMAO.
Jason doesn't pick up his phone.
how does one find out when and where these clearance sales are??
Are there similar sales in the United States? San Jose/silicon valley area? L.A.?
How can you turn up the amp to 13 if it has no detents on the knob?
I think that's a RetroPi arcade enclosure. You drop a raspberry pi in with a certain sd card image and it emulates a bunch of different stuff.
Yep, need to find the image. Don't want to have to cobble it together manually.
Yep, it's exactly the same scope as my Hantek DSO4102C. You got an absolute bargain. Pretty sure I paid $300-$400 for mine a couple of years ago👍🇦🇺
I have on e too but for only 95 euros...4 yrs ago..
@14:06, I think that I saw a motor that coupled with the volume control, is that true ?
yes, remote control of volume.
My impression of the Hantek USB scopes isn't the best, especially the software (didn't someone make a better replacement free online?), but 20MHz can be way more than you need for many jobs and when you need a scope a low end one can be way better than none. We can't all work in the MHz range, some signals only go to kHz. ;) Great idea for a giveaway!
Have exactly the same oscilloscope under the mark of Hantek DSO4202C
It has USB so display on computer, no?
Pretty sure that's just to store waveforms instead of the SD card
@@Basement-Science On my Owan DSO, I can use the USB to display on my PC.
@@ed-jf3xh Maybe, but that's by no means standard. I just checked the manual on my Hantek 4072c (almost identical to the one in the video), and it only mentions using it for a flash drive.
Finally it seems you took some of those to test!!!! I hope.. I will already give a like for the pleasure of listening you say Hantek, because I hope to see you reviewing DSO4102C in my lifetime.. 4:00 well I have one in front of me now and it really seems to be the same.
That cellophane on the display was like a bow tie on a pile of poop 💩
I immediately noticed the solar panel.. I'm really fascinated with solar stuff
Edit: have one of those panels sitting in a cupboard here somewhere
Must be nice being able to go to things like this. I live in rural SA..... Not much going on around here obviously.
Where is this place wanna visit
Got one of those at a hamfest for $200 in mint condition. An absolute steal for a digital scope
You can use it USB style in conjunction with a PC And it is indeed a Hantek 4000C series...
Even if the screen isn't working, you can plug in the USB port and see if you can control it and get measurements off of it. Then you'll be able to see if the rest of it is working before going to lengths to repair it.
Its almost worth flying to Australia!
..... Your arms will likely get sore.
You could always try a 'ham-fest' (radio amateur car boot sale) - lots of interesting stuff, not just radio equipment.
Do we have somthing similar in LA California?
I tend to leave screen protectors on unless they are mangled.
hay i would you send a 20mhz ocilascope to nz if i pay postage
You scored! I would have chanced it for five bucks too.
How much was the screen ?
Man, why can't there be a sale like that in Toledo or Detroit?!?!
I need that arcade joystick base!
(that doesnt look like jamma.. no, its just to connect to a pandoras box!)
Yeah that scope looks exactly like my Hantek 4000 :)
I could use a $5 scope. Shipping will be killer.
That PSU wouldve been worth it just for the casing, transformer and heatsinks!
Oh boy I wish I could be there. I would love to buy some cheap half working stuff. Fixing is too much fun!
That power supply is beginning to look like the one that got away
I hope you bagged some components. Hopefully they had some semiconductors and LED devices too. The 16x2 LCD displays can come in handy for the not-so-demanding microcontroller projects too.
0:20 The dirty hands of digging through good deals.
The game pack is the one used to bill game system
The amp look nice IMHO, those TO247s and Toroidal transformer ....
The lcd model same like digital microscope 7" u can check and figure it
ooh that's a nice transformer in the amplifier. Toroid transformers are expensive over here.
Would really love to see full investigation and repair on the Hantek 4000c scope that you got with that display damage, especially if there's anything wrong with it besides display.
Hey a Pandora without a PCB is a decent catch too. Big metal console with all the controls on it, and like sure they're your standard knockoff grade, but arcade style controllers for home consoles, when those were a thing, in the 16bit era, were often worse, much much worse.
That power amp is MUCH nicer than Dynavox miniamps that you could get back here a while back as well.
USB scopes - nice as well, for sure will help someone along.
For $5 bucks I'd buy a couple and swap parts until she starts workin.
or just buy a couple till you got one that worked LUL
The replacement touchscreen is "on a slow boat from China"? I refer to just about everything I get from eBay as "Junk mail."
I'm here all week.
Even if broken, that was a great deal.
where is this place?
I honestly would be happy to have any oscilloscope right now... My Rigol firmware just died on me and I'm outta budget to buy another, even used one. ((
13:55 is that a DC motor on the back of the power knob? What the?
yaa it is like a motorized volume control so when you use the remote it probably turns the motor.
Yes, that's how the remote works.
Huh, I haven't actually seen that done before! Neat.
@@leisergeist That's the oldschool way. A lot of top end consumer grade sound systems from the 90's era used that method. Now it's digitally controlled pots or just done in software (DSP).
@@leisergeist yes you could even buy like module of it from digi key.
I would really like one of those scopes or lab PSUs. Too bad I can't get stuff like that here.
Could I have one?
Would be really useful to me, since I love tinkering with electronics, and I have needed an oscilloscope for debugging quite often.
Live example of you get what you paid for...
Doesn't look like a warehouse clearance sale, but just a return/faulty products sale.
Here in tassie we miss out on anything like this... Those 40amp 13.8vdc power supplies would have been worth grabbing 😉
You can buy a board for that arcade stick for about £40....they are pretty good for the money, mine does ps1 and some Dreamcast and a couple of n64 games. It's a hell of a thing to get out when you get back from the pub emulation is fine enough for oldschool arcade beatemups
More interestingly, will it blend?
Probably got screen damage being tossed about in sale warehouse. i imagine they are not too gentle with the devices when they are accepting 5 dollors for them.
It's nighttime here still. 9pm actually.. Lol... I wish we had something like this in my area.
you need a pandoras box dx or ex for that box
Happy to see Dave happy with his hobby, i can't enjoy electronics like him..
Why not? :(
Great place for cheap parts and devices for repair! 👍
The answer is clearly to go back to Jaycar and get another one. Might get one working unit.
I would love to go somewhere like this, damn !
Man all those "sales" are literal broken / incomplete ewaste. Need to get like 2 or 3 of each to fix them into 1 working unit :s
Pretty sure that layout, for the rear IO and the header is raspberry pi.
I wish they did these sales like this in the US. I’m sure they do somewhere, just not here.
Damn. I have an lcd just that size.
That game machine, boy does that cutout and cable seem to match a Raspberry Pi.