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I thought that "Friends" changing its premise made sense, as the characters naturally evolved from carefree twentysomethings, to settled thirty somethings, as is wont to happen in real life.
true, but this video did not state "good or bad" merely what happened. And it did change its premise, much like real life does for most people. Thats the problem with going on for 11 years. You either have to mix it up, or the series stagnates. Thats what happened with MASH. 11 years in a 3 year war. Kinda stupid. They tried to keep it fresh by getting more serious and replacing characters, but eventually they had to concede it just went on too damn long.
iZombie started out as a young woman solving crimes while hiding the fact that she was a zombie. By the end of the show, zombies had taken over Seattle and formed their own government.
Deep Space Nine - Started out with the station focused on restoring the Bajoran people after the Cardassian occupation, then turned into a prolonged war with the Dominion from the Gamma quadrant.
What you say is very true. But I feel like the real shift was how pre war, the show was a traditional episidic status quo show show where you could catch an episode regardless of the season, and get 98% of it, into more of an ongoing soap opera that needs to be watched in order to appreciate half that episode. The odd episode here and there not with standing, of course. Like season 6s Time's Orphan. WTF! 😂
_Fringe_ introduced the alternate universe near the end of season 1 and the reveal about Peter was in the season 1 finale. The only major premise shift after that was in season 5 (or the flashforward episode of season 4 technically).
To be fair it did lose its procedural 'monstor of the week' formula and focussed more on the serial story In my head it starts when olivia turns out the lights in the building....so good. Thats when it gripped me anyway. It was a little dull up until that. Its only after that you find out about peter, which was foreshadowed even in the pilot but you werent looking for it becuse it appeared as just a procedural. So good though.
Dollhouse's change was forced upon them. It was cancelled, but they were given the opportunity to "wrap up" the storyline with the remaining episodes. That's why it felt so sudden of a change.
Another show would be “Family Matters.” The show was a spin-off from “Perfect Strangers” about the life of Harriet Winslow who worked with Larry and Balki. Then, the series turned into the Urkel Show much like Fonzie taking over Happy Days. Steve was just the nerdy neighbor who was in love with Laura and annoyed everyone.
@@whiskeyvictor5703 You mean the season with Angels son ? I hate that guy and thats by far the worst season. But in the following season it gets sooo much better when they now are working in the Wolfram & Heart building and ... the best .. Spike joins the team 👍👍
The “others” seemed like primitive people in raggedy clothes who kidnapped Walt. In season3, they became people brought to the for scientific research like Juliet.
I have watched MANY series and this happens on ALL of them. Be it Grimm, Once Upon A Time, Legends of Tomorrow, Arrow, The Flash, Stargate SG-1, Sliders, Wynonna Earp, Lost Girl, Under the Dome, Killjoys, Dark Matter, and many more.
Greatest themes: original Battlestar Galactica and Rockford Files. Say I’m not wrong! If you want songs with lyrics Cheers and Greatest American Hero , unavoidably hummable
Archer Loved This Show But Once The Premise changed It kinda ruined the cartoon It's lucky It lasted 14 years just can't wait til' Fox gives Bob's Burgers the axe but H. Jon Benjamin probably needs that "Disney" paycheck to keep the lights on at home so I'm not counting on that anytime soon
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@@fuelledbylattes Wow. You just tried to cram that one in there, didn't ya'. The "no longer needed" as redundant is used, means that function, position or purpose is already covered.
@@fuelledbylattes In the series premiere, Sabrina turned 16 and discovered she was a witch. The show then ran for 7 seasons, which would have made her around 23ish when the show ended. They should have changed the title to just Sabrina after the first few seasons
Big Bang kept flipping characters which often changed the shows focus. One season we get episodes how poor a character is then we find out his family is wealthy. One is always nice for season then we find out she is mean for the next season. Penny is poor then she gets a good job. Friends. "Except Joey". He did well on a soap opera for a season.
Melrose Place. Beverly Hills 90210 spin off centered around episodic young adult drama grounded in reality turned into a sexy prime time soap opera with far out unbelievable plot twists.
Supernatural---First 5 seasons were a brothers road trip hunting monsters and ghosts. Season 6 abd beyond, it developed more like angels and demons and was drama like. Still good though
Gotham. It started as a fairly straightforward police procedural focusing on a rookie Jim Gordon and chronicling The Penguin's rise to power. Then about 2/3 of the way through the first season it shifted gears, eventually becoming a full blown comic book show and Batman origin story To this day I'm still torn on whether I think it was a good move or not. I loved the original premise and wish I could have seen what the did with it, but I also love the wacky mess it became. Some of the best live-action portrayals of Batman characters can be found in that show
"The A-Team". Went from the original premise of four soldiers of fortune and fugitives who get hired to protect people from thugs who want to kick them off their land, out of business etc, all the while doing it while hiding from the military police, to the fifth season them working for one man who sends them out on missions.
Plenty more better theme songs than Friends:- M.A.S.H. Perfect Strangers. M.A.S.K. Growing Pains. Family Ties. The Fresh Prince Of Bel Air. Greatest American Hero. Gilligan's Island.
I MISS the classic Who historicals! Sad that a few are missing. I'd love to actually see the Marco Polo one, but I've only been able to listen to the audio.
To even ask what's the best TV show theme song (ever!!) can say quite a lot.. Don't you still do not know that it is the MacGyver theme song. No doubt there. Oughta be common knowledge by now. Heard even so many damn great covers done of it. Surely not gonna put down the Friends theme song either.
Best theme, instrumental: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Night Court, Star Trek: TNG Best Theme, lyrical: Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Greatest American Hero, Cheers
Smallville had to change their premise. It was too popular to finish, so they had to extend it. That's why the original Leverage series was so great. 5 seasons and closed out the narrative arcs, but left the possibility to continue as a different show. Which they later did. Smallville became an alternate Superman show because that's what the audience wanted, but the producers did not. Doomsday, Darkseid, Supergirl, Lex clones, the JLA, the JSA, Smallville had everything, BUT Superman. So Clark is running back and forth from Kansas to Metropolis EVERYDAY so the show didn't have to change their name. So much was done to maintain the original premise of Clark Kent before Superman.
I think you missed one CW the flash. The first Season was its best and went down hill from there. The first Episode was about the CSI side of Barry Allen and after season one the investigative science died to change into freinds with powers. I feel they really missed out because a superpowered CSI going around to the worse crime seens putting the puzzle together was a great concept
Dr Who was never about reincarnation or regeneration, it was the mechanism of continuity for the show, but a very minor aspect of a long running show misinterpreted for the American market.
The theme from Friends is maybe in the top 30, but closer to the top 50. There are many themes that outrank it. Most of the action or adventure shows from the 1980s have better themes. And there is the theme from MASH ("Suicide is Painless") or Cheers ("Everybody Knows Your Name"). Friends' theme is stuck in the 1990s, while the others are timeless. EDIT: if cartoons are included, the theme from Friends gets pushed to the bottom of the top 100, perhaps even lower.
You forgot "Family Matters" 😂 Couldn't agree more about "Fringe", though, which is great because (!) it ends up going in such an unexpected direction (but (!) properly built up and foreshadowed, fitting the genre and themes established in the first season after all!!)
Borgen is AMAZING! Not enough people watched this show. It's like a Danish West Wing, and if more Americans would watch it, maybe they'd realized how stupid their 2-parry system truly is.
Borgen is pronounced Borjen and mean a type of castle in the scandinavina languages and might also refer to houses of grat importance like the congress. :)
There seems to be a lot of Joss on this list. Even Buffy kind of changed from monster of the week to the big bad arcs, but the Master was a big bad from Ep.1, but I think he wasn't set to be that, just the reason for the weekly adversaries.
No, Fringe got immeasurably worse and more messy and convoluted once the alternate reality was introduced. It's directly why that series fell off a cliff with audiences and got cancelled.
I thought Prison Break changed its premise in a mindblowing way when it first aired. There is no prison in season 4 and season 5 has very little to do with prisons either.
Greatest TV theme song of all time? Friends isn't even in the top ten. Especially when you include shows like Neon Genesis Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, and more.
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Fringe was awesome. Make more shows like that, please!
Supernatural?
First season: We gotta find dad.
Final Season: We gotta box God.
Fringe was an awesome series one of the best we got
Watching it again, it all stands the test of time. Exceptional series with a great ending.
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Fringe is fantastic. I think a lot of people that saw the first season just thought it was an X-Files knockoff.
Fringe was good. But basically it was an X-files knockoff yo
I thought that "Friends" changing its premise made sense, as the characters naturally evolved from carefree twentysomethings, to settled thirty somethings, as is wont to happen in real life.
they grew up with the audience
true, but this video did not state "good or bad" merely what happened. And it did change its premise, much like real life does for most people. Thats the problem with going on for 11 years. You either have to mix it up, or the series stagnates. Thats what happened with MASH. 11 years in a 3 year war. Kinda stupid. They tried to keep it fresh by getting more serious and replacing characters, but eventually they had to concede it just went on too damn long.
iZombie started out as a young woman solving crimes while hiding the fact that she was a zombie. By the end of the show, zombies had taken over Seattle and formed their own government.
Great series get buried all the time by shock series. Like Game of Thrones. Yes it was a series built for nothing but shock and aw.
Deep Space Nine - Started out with the station focused on restoring the Bajoran people after the Cardassian occupation, then turned into a prolonged war with the Dominion from the Gamma quadrant.
What you say is very true.
But I feel like the real shift was how pre war, the show was a traditional episidic status quo show show where you could catch an episode regardless of the season, and get 98% of it, into more of an ongoing soap opera that needs to be watched in order to appreciate half that episode. The odd episode here and there not with standing, of course. Like season 6s Time's Orphan. WTF! 😂
"Cheers" had a better theme song than "Friends"
Better, not more catchy. Much better at that.
So did Laverne & Shirley
_Fringe_ introduced the alternate universe near the end of season 1 and the reveal about Peter was in the season 1 finale. The only major premise shift after that was in season 5 (or the flashforward episode of season 4 technically).
To be fair it did lose its procedural 'monstor of the week' formula and focussed more on the serial story
In my head it starts when olivia turns out the lights in the building....so good. Thats when it gripped me anyway. It was a little dull up until that. Its only after that you find out about peter, which was foreshadowed even in the pilot but you werent looking for it becuse it appeared as just a procedural. So good though.
Dollhouse's change was forced upon them. It was cancelled, but they were given the opportunity to "wrap up" the storyline with the remaining episodes. That's why it felt so sudden of a change.
a studio is physically able to cancel a show in a way that allows for wrapping up of loose ends? I thought it was only a myth
Another show would be “Family Matters.” The show was a spin-off from “Perfect Strangers” about the life of Harriet Winslow who worked with Larry and Balki. Then, the series turned into the Urkel Show much like Fonzie taking over Happy Days. Steve was just the nerdy neighbor who was in love with Laura and annoyed everyone.
Does anyone remember Sanctuary? It sort of did that too...
...and yet Angel's 5th season was its best one. Still some of my favorite 22 episodes of television.
They lost me when they made Cordy evil.
@@whiskeyvictor5703 You mean the season with Angels son ? I hate that guy and thats by far the worst season. But in the following season it gets sooo much better when they now are working in the Wolfram & Heart building and ... the best .. Spike joins the team 👍👍
“Fringe” is a parallel universe version of “he X-Files” that managed to stick the landing.
I love it when people remember and talk about Fringe, it was soooo gooood!!
You missed Sliders.
Oh yeah, once Jerry and his brother left, the show just wasn't the same.
Jerry O'Connell should've been mcu mister fantastic 😂
Person of interest, Dark Angel, Legends of Tomorrow
"Lost" changed its premise with every season. It's hard to remember what the show was even about by the end.
I think it was about not being "lost" anymore
That's so you could forget all those mysteries they didn't have answers to.
The “others” seemed like primitive people in raggedy clothes who kidnapped Walt. In season3, they became people brought to the for scientific research like Juliet.
Being Human UK mention!!! I wish more people knew about this show: it had some great moments and a fantastic cast ❤
I was like, Fringe better be number 1. That show changed every season
I have watched MANY series and this happens on ALL of them. Be it Grimm, Once Upon A Time, Legends of Tomorrow, Arrow, The Flash, Stargate SG-1, Sliders, Wynonna Earp, Lost Girl, Under the Dome, Killjoys, Dark Matter, and many more.
The show that changed maybe the most from season to season, in my opinion, was "The 100".
@@wolftitan I forgot all about Legends of Tomorrow. That show really lost it's way
@karmabum21 I loved it. Legends of To-Meow Meow (someone gets it) was great. It wasn't supposed to take itself seriously.
Greatest themes: original Battlestar Galactica and Rockford Files. Say I’m not wrong! If you want songs with lyrics Cheers and Greatest American Hero , unavoidably hummable
Greatest theme tune...hmm...Gilligan's Island? Mary Tyler Moore? Instrumental themes, Twilight Zone, Star Trek (TOS).
M.A.S.H. Perfect Strangers. M.A.S.K. Growing Pains. Family Ties. The Fresh Prince Of Bel Air.
Best theme song, although from a Ridiculous series, was 🎶Believe It Or Not🎶 from the Greatest American Hero.
You know a TV theme passed the test of time when it is played on the radio today. Believe It Or Not (It's Just Me) gets plenty of airtime.
Fringe was one of the very best sci Fi shows ever 😅
Archer Loved This Show But Once The Premise changed It kinda ruined the cartoon It's lucky It lasted 14 years just can't wait til' Fox gives Bob's Burgers the axe but H. Jon Benjamin probably needs that "Disney" paycheck to keep the lights on at home so I'm not counting on that anytime soon
I had to force myself to watch the last couple seasons. Same thing with the original Venture Bros.
i didn't like the season of Sabrina that didn't have harvey in it
Mention Fringe but didn’t mention the neck yanking complete change in sub genre for its final season 🧐
Everyone knows the greatest theme tune ever is from Ulysses 31.
no no
Well, I DID forget that I remember that song.
"Sabrina the Teenage Witch: the self-explanatory title became redundant in the last couple of seasons..."
That's not what "redundant" means...
Redundant: not or no longer needed or useful. She wasn't a teenager anymore.
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adjective
1. exceeding what is needed or useful; superfluous:
2. characterized by unnecessary words or repetition; verbose:
3. serving or added as a backup; extra:
4. having one or more extra or duplicate parts or features
@@fuelledbylattes Wow. You just tried to cram that one in there, didn't ya'.
The "no longer needed" as redundant is used, means that function, position or purpose is already covered.
@@fuelledbylattes In the series premiere, Sabrina turned 16 and discovered she was a witch. The show then ran for 7 seasons, which would have made her around 23ish when the show ended. They should have changed the title to just Sabrina after the first few seasons
Dynasty (1981)
Season 1: Boring as hell drama
Season 2: enter Joan Collins and soap opera slap fests
Yes, they turned up the camp factor once season 2 began and Joan added tremendously to that
Greatest title song: Whèn Things Were Rotten. 😂
Greatest TV show tunes? The Flintstones, the Jetsons, Scooby Doo, Jonny Quest?
Big Bang kept flipping characters which often changed the shows focus. One season we get episodes how poor a character is then we find out his family is wealthy. One is always nice for season then we find out she is mean for the next season. Penny is poor then she gets a good job.
Friends. "Except Joey". He did well on a soap opera for a season.
Fringe was deeply underrated. It was an excellent show
Melrose Place. Beverly Hills 90210 spin off centered around episodic young adult drama grounded in reality turned into a sexy prime time soap opera with far out unbelievable plot twists.
Supernatural---First 5 seasons were a brothers road trip hunting monsters and ghosts. Season 6 abd beyond, it developed more like angels and demons and was drama like. Still good though
Gotham. It started as a fairly straightforward police procedural focusing on a rookie Jim Gordon and chronicling The Penguin's rise to power. Then about 2/3 of the way through the first season it shifted gears, eventually becoming a full blown comic book show and Batman origin story
To this day I'm still torn on whether I think it was a good move or not. I loved the original premise and wish I could have seen what the did with it, but I also love the wacky mess it became. Some of the best live-action portrayals of Batman characters can be found in that show
Red Dwarf is the best sitcom theme for me. Just like the Friends theme it's an actual proper song in a way.
"The A-Team".
Went from the original premise of four soldiers of fortune and fugitives who get hired to protect people from thugs who want to kick them off their land, out of business etc, all the while doing it while hiding from the military police, to the fifth season them working for one man who sends them out on missions.
Theme song? The Wire…and the fact they changed artists/style each season…
Greatest TV theme tune of all time? Airwolf.
Plenty more better theme songs than Friends:-
M.A.S.H. Perfect Strangers. M.A.S.K. Growing Pains. Family Ties. The Fresh Prince Of Bel Air. Greatest American Hero. Gilligan's Island.
I MISS the classic Who historicals! Sad that a few are missing. I'd love to actually see the Marco Polo one, but I've only been able to listen to the audio.
It would be weird if friends would have the same characters after 10 years and in their 30s
I find it funny how few changes would need to be made to the description of Angel to describe Supernatural. Same for Happy Days and Family Matters.
Barney Miller is the best theme song
The Sopranos had a great theme song.
I think the "Laverne & Shirley" theme song is the greatest ever.
*cough* mandalorian *cough*
Family matters???
Not a great one guys. Are better title would have been shows who's premise grows with the character 🤦♀️🤷🏿♀️
To even ask what's the best TV show theme song (ever!!) can say quite a lot..
Don't you still do not know that it is the MacGyver theme song. No doubt there. Oughta be common knowledge by now. Heard even so many damn great covers done of it.
Surely not gonna put down the Friends theme song either.
I immediately thought of Cougar Town. It changed so much that they considered renaming it in later seasons.
Best theme, instrumental: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Night Court, Star Trek: TNG
Best Theme, lyrical: Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Greatest American Hero, Cheers
Fringe started about an FBI agent losing her partner and finding out he was a mole. It ends in the perspective of what's his nuts. Underwhelming
Smallville had to change their premise. It was too popular to finish, so they had to extend it. That's why the original Leverage series was so great. 5 seasons and closed out the narrative arcs, but left the possibility to continue as a different show. Which they later did. Smallville became an alternate Superman show because that's what the audience wanted, but the producers did not. Doomsday, Darkseid, Supergirl, Lex clones, the JLA, the JSA, Smallville had everything, BUT Superman. So Clark is running back and forth from Kansas to Metropolis EVERYDAY so the show didn't have to change their name. So much was done to maintain the original premise of Clark Kent before Superman.
The show that changed the most from its premise: VEEP. She literally becomes President during the series.
I think you missed one CW the flash. The first Season was its best and went down hill from there. The first Episode was about the CSI side of Barry Allen and after season one the investigative science died to change into freinds with powers. I feel they really missed out because a superpowered CSI going around to the worse crime seens putting the puzzle together was a great concept
I swear blind that "Thats So Raven" started out without her having psychic powers, and it was just some standard teen sitcom.
Dr Who was never about reincarnation or regeneration, it was the mechanism of continuity for the show, but a very minor aspect of a long running show misinterpreted for the American market.
The theme from Friends is maybe in the top 30, but closer to the top 50. There are many themes that outrank it. Most of the action or adventure shows from the 1980s have better themes. And there is the theme from MASH ("Suicide is Painless") or Cheers ("Everybody Knows Your Name"). Friends' theme is stuck in the 1990s, while the others are timeless. EDIT: if cartoons are included, the theme from Friends gets pushed to the bottom of the top 100, perhaps even lower.
I don’t think they know what the word “redundant” means.
Melrose Place pre-Heather Locklear: "Friends" in LA before there was Friends
Melrose Place subsequently: Who's sleeping with who?
Greatest theme? hands down 'Welcome Back Kotter', with an honorable mention to 'Miami Vice' and 'NYPD Blue'.
I would have included Orphan Black. It began as a great mystery, but later series morphed into gobbledygook.
You forgot "Family Matters" 😂 Couldn't agree more about "Fringe", though, which is great because (!) it ends up going in such an unexpected direction (but (!) properly built up and foreshadowed, fitting the genre and themes established in the first season after all!!)
Borgen is AMAZING! Not enough people watched this show. It's like a Danish West Wing, and if more Americans would watch it, maybe they'd realized how stupid their 2-parry system truly is.
Harvey wasn't Sabrina's "crush." He was her boyfriend for most of the show and her literal soulmate.
Borgen is pronounced Borjen and mean a type of castle in the scandinavina languages and might also refer to houses of grat importance like the congress. :)
There seems to be a lot of Joss on this list. Even Buffy kind of changed from monster of the week to the big bad arcs, but the Master was a big bad from Ep.1, but I think he wasn't set to be that, just the reason for the weekly adversaries.
Greatest theme tune ever-a toss up between Hill Street blues and cheers
No, Fringe got immeasurably worse and more messy and convoluted once the alternate reality was introduced. It's directly why that series fell off a cliff with audiences and got cancelled.
Cave Kids is the best TV theme. Uggabugga boo
Chibnell tried to bring back the educational element of Doctor Who and was shot down for it …
Angel didn't have season long story arcs and big bads. That's literally how it was different than Buffy. How did you miss that?
Greatest theme song. Magnum P.I. The Tom Selleck version
Friends became Thirty-Something.
Alias? Mentioned in passing, but one of the most crazy transitions...
I thought Prison Break changed its premise in a mindblowing way when it first aired. There is no prison in season 4 and season 5 has very little to do with prisons either.
Completely agree with Sabrina, Season 7 was unwatchable
Best theme songs are a toss up, if you need 4 seconds or 2 seconds to run to the couch when you hear it. That is M.A.S.H. or the West Wing.
Cagney and Lacey theme was pretty good
The question of nr 10 was directly answered with nr 9.
ER was initially a comedy show if I remember.
👏👏👏👏
Sanford and Son has the greatest TV show theme song of all time.
Greatest TV show theme song is from “Perfect Strangers”!
Cheers is the King of Opening Theme Songs!!!
The theme to “Laverne and Shirley”
Dr who is dead
I just saw a very similar list. With the same shows.
Greatest TV Theme song - "Cheers"
Angel - “sister” show to Buffy
Maybe “brother” instead?🤔
“Melrose Place” (1992-1999).
sorry dr who became rubbish.
I loved season 1 of Fringe.
You right Dr who changed from a good scl fi show watched by millions to garbage watched by no-one
Grimm was great for first 3 seasons. Then turned into X-men for the last couple years.
You Hexenbiest! That entire series was awesome. By the way, WHAT'S IN THE BOX!!! Too soon?
Friends it’s about life between 25’s and 35’s
No, the creators said 22-30
Greatest TV theme song of all time? Friends isn't even in the top ten. Especially when you include shows like Neon Genesis Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, and more.
Even perfect strangers and happy days have better intros.