Volvo Part 4 - More rust in the Volvo 740?? Oh come on..
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Despite the weather I tried to move on to some more of the tasks waiting on the Volvo 740 but lifting the wet carpets had some unpleasant surprises..
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34 year old Volvo. Despite the pain in the arsery. Always liked these barges.
They were kind of American in style. And that engine bay looks like it should be. No plastic!
When you think of these Volvos, they last a long time, and you have an awesome piece of machinery for life, you cannot say the same for the new cars, that if any little part breaks it will cost a lot of money.
I’m no mechanic but I’m loving these vlogs it’s great seeing the work getting done looking forward to the next one
Reminds me of the time my dad went through a ford that was to deep for the MK4 cortina took days to dry out with the carpet propped up with bits of wood he gave me car a year later my foot went through the floor unfortunately the water had got behind the mastic sound deadening and out came the welder
Originally from Rugby. Two owners. Lovely and clean underneath, cleaned and treated with Waxoyl. Used to be regular visitor to Sheffield and Meredith Volvo experts in Leicester. Stainless exhaust last year (Scottish weather plays havoc with mild steel!), got some alloys in the shed for new tyres this summer. Speedo stopped at 198889 over 5 yrs ago.... not the cog (tried it, failed). Solid car, still boots along (wife drives it like a go-kart) at over 100mph. Nice service due this summer, fluids etc. just had new belts. All new discs and calipers two years ago. GREAT TIP.... rear disc dust shields are impossible to fit in one piece without removing rear drive shafts. CUT OUT A SECTION of the steel from the new ones to accommodate the rear calipers and bolt straight into place. Piece of cake.
Removing the rear seat is very easy. It’s only mounted at two spots.
Start by dividing the seat in 4 equally sized areas in your head.
On the front side of the seat, push the seat backwards and lift it up at the line between area 1 and 2.
Repeat at area 3 and 4. Then pull the seat forwards.
Good thing about these old cars is they don't have loads of electronic chips, so any work you can do yourself with a little knowledge.
One thing to look out for in these cars are the relay driving the fuel pump.
The solderings on the little circuit board inside the relay get cracks by time.
Easy fix is to resolder all solder connections on the board and it will work another 20 years.
Good tip thanks, if/when it refuses to start Ill look for that
Hate to say I got some sadistic pleasure seeing you pull out that wet carpet and groan, because my Volvo 480 is a real rust bucket and I've poked quite a few holes in it.
It is really hard to make the hole even bigger before you can repair it. But as long as my welding improves it shouldn't be a problem 🙂
I remember my neighboour back in the 80ies when i was a kid doing constant repairs on his old Fiat 124. He was always welding and fixing something. Finally he painted the whole car
infront his house with a paintbrush. Today it woul'd be incredible to see somebody doing that.
A different time!
make sure all the rubber grommets through the firewall are sealed proper or you will have the pool in the foot wells again.
well done on not giving up on her yet.
The trials of old cars but well worth the effort. I took my entire tam leather interior out of my E-reg GLE. It was fairly easy but there was a few brittle panels to fix. And yes they always rot just in the same place - bit of a design fault. That underlay goes under the console, I had to cut mine to get it out. Great video and still a fabulous, wonderful car.
I am enjoying your Volvo and videos. I have wanted a 740 saloon for myself and am just starting to look properly for one although it has to be one ready to go and tidy inside. Now I know to avoid wet carpets. I am looking forward to you doing the head lining as this seems to be a very common fault. I would also like to see you drive yours a bit more let's see the 3 point turn in the limo!
Haha, you just never run out of stuff to do with these old volvos. I just finished the metalwork on my 940, can't wait to rebuild the other half of the car for next year's inspection -_-'
But it always keep rolling.
@@aiasibor1234 Sure does, leaks oil and the fan doesn't work but it has been that way for a decade
I’m really enjoying this series!! I’m looking forward to seeing a full detail clean... I’m hoping you’re going to do paint correction too as it would be great to see it in all it’s original glory!!
A similar thing occurred with the king lead on my 740 many years ago, but I had a spare one in the boot, so it wasn't out of action for long.
Also, I'm eternally thankful to the Volvo gods that my example hasn't got any water leaks or crusty bits underneath, despite turning 30 years old this May.
Long may it stay that way!
I am really enjoying this Volvo series - i am an admirer of these Swedish blocks, myself owning old Saabs. Keep up the good work - you are showing what the enthusiastic home mechanic can achieve.
I once found a porn magazine under the seat of a 90s camry that i bought, had a nice flick through it then my dad took it off me, safe to say he was happy for that month or so
I’ve got a Volvo 740 just minced the cambelt new head on now bent valves , really love what your doing to this old battle wagon ,Steve uk
Loving the old Volvo and the channel. Great work so far. 👍🏼👍🏼
Leave the holes, they allow the water out! Seriously, these cars are perfectly adequate and roadworthy with a few holes in the floor. Out of 30+ Volvo's here in Australia I've only had rust in floors twice, they rarely have issues.
Take out 20p and add hundreds to its value.. Well done indeed! Thanks a million. I really enjoy your videos, so please keep them coming. Boring or not.. I learned something today.. Disconnect battery when welding, so thanks for that too. Your Volvo is a 50 year car for sure, a guy on our street has a B18 2-door that he takes out on sunny Sundays. It must be about a '65 model and it runs like a trojan. :-)
the thermostat sensor.. Like on my Mk2 punto 🚿
ps: i love this series. I had to do the same to a mk2 opel astra van: it was like a swamp: shrek's wet dream basically
I am Volvo mad. You have found one of the few problems on the 740...the seam sealer dries out on the seam in the middle of the footwells. They were galvanised from 1987. You have to try to kill these cars, they are so tough. People describe the engine as a 'petrol diesel' ...bulletproof, can stand abuse and will do a million miles. The best cheap fix for these cars is to fit a later expansion tank with water level sensor, so that if a hose blows or you spring a leak, you don't melt the engine before you notice the gauge. Thanks for the vids.
Good tip, thanks!
Having a bendy extendy thing is always handy. I think you may need a lock up so you can work in the dry. Ive never done any welding so yours looks good to me.
I really do need a unit or barn now!
Keep doing what you do to it. It deserves it .. who knows, maybe you'll have it for another few decades :P I'm quite surprised how well composed it stayed - probably the ingress did not start recently.
Oh well, absence of planned obsolescence, again.
Thank you for making this video. For sure my carpet was not in two pieces at the front and I had to remove the console, which is not as bad as it sounds. Watching you work out how to remove the front seats brought back memories! Now I always check for wet carpets when I buy a car, it’s not always a dealbreaker but I need to know when I buy a car, usually a giveaway is a car that as more than one air freshener and still stinks.
One recommendation I can wholeheartedly make for a Volvo of this age is Bosch multi-electrode spark plugs. I used them in my old, carburettor 244 and it improved the fuel consumption by a whole 5mpg and made it a whole lot livelier. This one is fuel injected so it probably won't make that much of difference to the mpg if everything is working right, but it'll still help and they do tend to be thirsty old beasts...
best combo ive had w a 740 ,the 4 sp /4 cyl on an 85 that just ran so much better than even the turbo ones ive had .def w
orth hanging on to
This car has gone to a good home! I admire your stoicism and fortitude! Looking forward to seeing future episodes - perhaps it's more fun to watch than to do the work even though I'm generally doing something boring like doing my dishes as I watch your channel. Keep up the good work! :)
Against rust, use Owatrol rust inhibitor, search for it, it's used on boats and ships! Works very well use it on in or outside, Marvellous stuff.When you buy a new car for hollow spaces etc there is Mike Sanders grease, you warm it up and spray it hollow space etc Very good stuff.
Not come across that one. Ive got some Comma which gets 5 star reviews but will check that out too
Why we love this old Volvos? Because old Volvos just need a bit of love to continue rolling.
ive had many 700s and many of the older ones have had rust like that, pretty standard, also check the mounting points for the front casterbars.
Very satisfying and great effort with this. Admire your resolve, dedication to save the car and to its somewhat restoration.
13:49 I _know_ that *FEEL* bro... 😅
The 700's may be some of the best looking waggons to ever exist. And what really gets me is that at least in the USA? They are almost never seen anymore.
Reminds of my LDV Convoy campervan a few years ago, took the seats out and the factory fitted rubber mat to be met with holes galore all caused by leaking wiper spindles.
Oh jeah, the same as mine 740 from 1985 :D They rust the same. Check out the boot, there will be more rust comming ;) And It would be better to take front seats out, because underneath them will be more rust to come, and rear passenger floor to. And that floor mats and sound isolation will dry out perfectly....i hanged mine in a heted garage and everything is dry now with no mold at all.
Seats are lifted, amazingly its good metal there and in the back seats
That WET carpet/sound proofing is just INVITING RUST!!!! A dehumidifier works Well to get moist OUT of a car,
The HT lead going was probably badly corroded for a while and the power off the jet wash just separated it, done you a favour really, better better than it going while you are out in it somewhere. For the interior water check the drains under the scuttle panel. I have a 75 that sat for 2 years with them blocked. ended up for 3 inches of water inside the car. drain blocked and it overflowed into the car.
Excellent and in the nick of time. It will shine again. Cheers.
Great video Matt--removing a carpet on a 30 yr car is an eye-opener. Have you looked at where the water has been getting in though as otherwise it will continue to flood,. It seems to me on the passenger side that you have rust in the firewall maybe where the electrics enter the cabin. This is a common problem on e30's and a nightmare to fix and the carpet is in one piece not four.
My favourite UA-cam channel that just keeps getting better and better! Go Matt!
See if you can get some chlorinated rubber paint, coat the footwells in 1ltr of hammerite each and then apply the chlorinated rubber paint. solid!
I love what you are doing with the old Volvo don't make cars like this anymore can't wait to see it when it's finished keep up good work with the vids
I couldn't live with the lack of a headliner. I'd have tried to source one ages ago TBH, would be doing my head in. Good effort though, keeping one of these old tanks going. My mate's dad had a 740GLE Estate back in the day, 2 cars crashed into it, both their fault, both were written off and all that happened to the Volvo was a scratched rear bumper & a broken headlight. Very comfortable aswell.
You cant get good used headliners, they all go the same and have to take out a windscreen to fit them, recovering is the only option, so Ill get to it, but after making it safe and dry!
@@furiousdriving Aah that's a shame, good luck with it, hope no more major issues are found.
Hi Matt, great video,there is always something with old cars,but good job you checked it,it starts well with the new spark plugs in,I wonder if the rubber seals around the windows maybe causing the wet floor,cars nowadays are too complicated to mess with,being this year of car nice and easy to work on.
Could be the window seals, they are known to fail
The water usually gets in thru the windscreen seal... Mainly the front but I would check the rear as well. Also check where the inner fender meets the bulkhead.
16:07 19:47 well then that sums up how working on your own car is
hahaha yes
Another great post, at least you can weld. Once it's all sealed you have saved this amazing car. Well done you
Great to see more Volvo content! Glad the car's gone to somebody like you who's got all the equipment to get it repaired. Make sure you test to see how waterproof the car is before installing all the underlay and carpet. Door membranes, seals, window seals. Good that you've cleaned out the drains.
My old MK4 Golf has developed a leak in the driver's footwell. Will try changing door seal (as that's worn, but I don't think it's that) but I think its possibly a blocked drain hole in the firewall somewhere, or a grommet that's shrunk with age. I'll also be checking for underbody plugs. More annoying than anything as I haven't had the time to look at it yet and noticed it about 3-4 weeks ago. We've also had a lot of rain since then... :\ Keep up the work with the Volvo! Superb motor car :-)
Oh yes, nothings going back until its been rained on alot
My 2cv had the same nicely rusted floor with all around view of the Road. I cutted out all the metal and replaced it by plywood...
Thats fine on a 2CV, almost expected! ;-)
Well, at least it's just water in your carpets. 😂 I had an explosive heater matrix failure in my Xantia, and even though I've fixed it many moons ago the carpets are still wet. That coolant just doesn't want to dry, and believe me I've consumed dozens of rolls of paper, ruined a good bunch of towels and spent half of my salary on electricity bills hoping that the heater would finally dry it. I suppose I'll just have to give up and remove the carpets entirely, hang them somewhere and rinse them with water until all of the coolant drips off. And hope I don't uncover any rust holes whilst doing that. It's nice to watch you work on the Volvo, great content!
oh no, it must be coming in somewhere else or the heater is still leaking? Just dont leave lifting the carpets till the day before the MOT!
@@furiousdriving It's definitely the old coolant on the floor as it's sticky and nasty instead of "just wet".. And I believe the leak is fixed since I'm no longer loosing any coolant and am getting mist-free heat. It's not absolutely soaking wet like your Volvo (I did look under the carpet!) but it just feels moist and slimy to the touch no matter what I do. I don't think there's rainwater involved either as I store the car in a garage. I'm sure I'll get it fixed eventually, hope you'll achieve the same with the Volvo!🙂
As a swede I would really reccomend you to take the seats out completely and remove all carpeting. You will find more stuff to fix.
Becouse you have now found the 740 disease. And it will have spread!
Front carpets are out and rear lifted, the seats have weird wiring so cant come out!
This Volvo wasn't as mint as it was in naked eye , but still a quite solid car. And you are leaving it in "perfect" condition , so whatever it's gonna be it's fate (either keep it or sell it) , it will last many and many years to come 👍👍
Oh, Mr Richardson! Now I know why you have been so busy this week. I was privileged to have filmed the car for my own channel this week. Predictably, the viewers love it over there too!
Im slightly mystified by the intense love for this old tank. It is a wonderful machine but I had no idea there was such fondness for them, glad the walk around has done well
@@furiousdriving, I was seriously soaked in nostalgia during the walkaround and I suspect a lot of others are too, which will be one reason. Another one is probably that they are pretty decent cars, and fast disappearing from our roads, so the length you are going to save this one is definitely worth it!
when I recently rescued my 1970 Vanden Plas Princess 1300, the negative connection on the ancient flat battery looked pretty manky ... so manky it actually broke off rather than come loose
I had the spitfire go over me today , did laugh at the top tip as I was taught that at a early age 👍
There's something odd about the under the seat wiring, it doesn't look factory to me, but I could be wrong. But regardless, great progress so far, car is slowly, but surely coming along nicely :)
Looks odd to me too, Id have thought the seat lifted free when unplugged, they wouldn't upholster it inside the car at the factory!
My now wife had a 760 turbo when we met. An amazing car, but I did find it near impossible to keep clean and the console lid catch seems to be a unicorn part none of them have.
So sorry you had to go through all that effort. I had a Renault scenic which threw all the rain and wet into the floor all because of debris making a dam which diverted the water until it was able to enter the car via the air vents so I know about soaking carpets, and now you do too. I had to remove everything out of the car, seats, carpets, took ages to sort out you have my sympathy which of course has no value to you. The person you bought the car from must have known about all this, and so must his garage. I hope you have a better time after this and look forward to the next episode
He said his mechanic had warned him it would need some welding for the next MOT but didnt know what. And I bought it in the dark and rain...
@@furiousdriving You lived and learn`t didn`t you? but you will conquer it, It will just take effort and a lot more time and the car will live again, but not like a collander. Maybe some go faster stripes, maybe not after, all it is a Volvo. I have a Volvo S40 1.6 Diesel 07 plate goes well but has cost me plenty!!! Looking forward to the story unfolding.
A viking saga indeed ,looks like it may well have sailed from sweden with all that water. Great set of videos on the Volvo. Press on gonna be worth it.
I have to give it to you your patience when a little job turns out to be a big one and you dont swear best of luck hope it stops raining
LOL Hey man.. My Corsa SRI is leaking from the inside. The carpet and sound deadening was saturated.. I bought a Stanley knife and cut the front and rear section out xD. Looks like crap but at least I can keep it dry lol.
Better than rusting out!
Love your videos, the best thing about this is the lovely old barge is going to be in much better condition and running order and it will go on to do years more service for someone else after its had it wee bit of excitement at Santa Pod. Your like a home-brew Ed China & I'd rather watch your videos than that crime against humanity that is new de-Ed'd Wheeler Dealers, keep up the fantastic work.
I wish I had your energy. Great vids.
Lovely Jubbly, enthusiasm and presentation makes this a worthwhile watch, then there are the great cars.
I bought a low mileage 1988E reg 740 Turbo in 1996 which looked immaculate and all the foot wells were ice rinks in winter. Not what you expect from a Volvo. Also it only averaged about 15mpg with my wife using it for commuting.
Was that an auto? This seems to do mid 20s. Seems like this is a common problem
@@furiousdriving Yes an auto.
Water in the footwell? Have a look at the heat exchanger diverter valve above the clutch pedal. Went on my wife's car. What a bloody mess and a sodding pig to refit.
I once bought some rust that had some bits of a mkII golf attached to it
Lovely stuff 😃 car will be all the better for the TLC. Love how those old B engines have that telltale growl when they’re cold, always sound a bit scarily knocky 😅
They do dont they!
Who needs top gear, when there's furious driving to watch. Far more entertaining.
Yeah!! This help me with my Volvo repairs!
U have to remove the central lateral panels. The carpet covers the tunnel also.
Great stuff enjoying the progress on your latest project.
Its getting there, better al the time!
Another great , Volvo, installment Matt. Many thanks. Nice to see that the car is, penny by penny, paying you back! Thanks again.
These things pay for themselves!
I feel your pain - water leaks - Grrr but stick with it. I'm not clear where the source of the leak or leaks were but if you can hunt it/them down you will have a car worth keeping or selling with a good future as the rest of the car seems in very good condition
There are a few possible sources, but at least I know what they are now
I mentioned previously. They rust in the rear passenger footwell. That's the bad news. The good news it's easily fixed by welding in a new flat panel.
Love the ‘just do it’ approach, not being phased by rust or small ponds in the floorpans! Will you be replacing the underlay or just drying it out?
The rubber backed stuff and sponge will dry out and go back. The felt is already in the bin
I used to have a business where I made office chairs using the seats out of junkyard cars. My four most popular seats were, in order, the Volvo 240, Peugeot 505, Volvo 850, and Volvo 740. I have pulled several dozen 740s. All you have to do is undo the four big bolts, disconnect the heater wire if so equipped, and lift it out, plastic trim and all. You are dramatizing, methinks. Also, no actually, passenger side seats are rarely that grubby at the seat rail.
I know about the security lug in the centre and to slide it back but the central one didnt want to release, and the heater wires here although unplugged still go up inside the seat, so I think its failed in the past and someone has done a fix. Also I didnt want to risk marking the plastic trim as just tugging at them will scratch or snap things
One of me pals recommends Cat Box litter ( Absorbent) to catch the moisture in auto upholstery. ( Also use it for Grit on Icy pavements in Canada, works a treat) Is that why the roof liner collapsed? Hmmmmm.... Cheers
Ive used that, its not as good as real moisture traps but helps. These are like old Jags and Range Rovers, they all have drooping ceilings
if you have a dehumidifier put it in the car and shut the door, it will suck up all that water in a couple of days (edit) if you have more welding to do get rid of those little bottles and go for a hobby weld bottle or similar, it will work out a hell of a lot cheaper in the long run and get a peashooter style flow meter if you havent got one.
Its only a tiny bit of damp carpet now everything else is out otherwise I would
i think your water is coming in from between the inner and outer wing at the top of the bulk head and running down rotting out your floor great work keep it up
Do you know how the wings are fixed on - is it easy to find all the bolts or are some hidden? I read about that online the other day, taking the wings off is the only way to really clear the blockages
Blimey... if you hadn't repaired the floor sections, the old bus was in danger of becoming 'Fred Flintstone's' staff car.
The rotted HT lead connector, I've seen on a Golf 1, I owned in SA for many years. Golf 1's, aka 'Citi Golf's' were resurrected as cheap runabouts by VW SA, from around '87 to 2004ish. Like your 740 my Golf cranked, turned, sparked but refused to start. Until I traced the HT connector to the distributor cap centre, and found it was green powder & air-gap 🙄 Lead trimmed and a new clip costing about 5p solved this issue.
I did guess the lead when I was about 19 with my Vauxhall Nova SR many years ago (D88 EDC). And as you say - you only do it once!
I did the leads on my girlfriend (now wife)'s bread van Polo, in a carpark, in the dark. Good times...
Like almost everybody else, I admire your energy and, indeed, your skill. For non-structural work, like floor pans, what about glass fibre matting and resin? It sounds like a bodge but a “bodge” that some folk make cheap runners last for an extra decade. Most of us loved Ed China’s work, but his skills were wasted. Pricing his work and garage time made nonsense of the programme. Your videos make more sense. Keep going.
Fibre glass is sort of OK but not really considered a proper repair. Using a bonding seal instead of welding is OK though. DOnt know why I didnt here...
8:55 This video would be worth watching for that sensational Dad joke alone
The distraction of finding money makes me laugh 😂
Compare this to mighty car mods of Australia and Scotty Kilmer of America , this is the brutal reality of all car maintenance in the UK which we all experience. I think our land may be cursed, never the less, very funny and we strive on!
Mighty Car Mods never have to weld a floor! But they have lethal spiders so we win
Ref your wet carpets I'm wondering if this is a sun roof issue! I had a similar experience with a 98 Renault Laguna. Finally traced the leak to a broken rain channel pipe leading down from the sunroof tray through the N/S windscreen pillar. The rain water was running down inside the pillar directly onto the floor pan under the carpet. Not sure if it's the same system on the Volvo but might be worth a check by removing the inner trim lining on the pillar at the roof join. Good luck Neil
Its probably the sunroof on the Mercedes but this hasn't got one - its leaking all on its own... There are similar for the scuttle and they do the same trick
How many cars get scrapped because of little bits of welding like that? Great work. Enjoying following this.
Far too many, sadly
Be sure that the heat exchanger isn't the culprit 👍
Great video series, entertaining as always. Interesting choice of "Super Dry" attire too..
Its just my old work in the garage but used to be nice top!
Brilliant weldafon you need a carport nothing crappier than working in the rain ☔💧👍
I need a barn! Or a multi story car park
When this is all done, you need some of the tradtional heavy duty, Volvo rubber mats 😉👍🇸🇪 (btw, you have a GREAT sense of humour !)
Its got an original set with it..they were hiding the wet carpets!
furiousdriving 😖😩😉👍😊
New wing last year, pinstripes made up by vehicle livery company, added last Thursday. Badge to go on when dry outside :-)
Wow, they arranged a fly past to honour the welding
Like button before I watch it!! You are the new hubnut in a better version
Classic Cars bit offensive to hubnut ya cock
@Paulie Gualtieri I stopped supporting !! And I was one of his first followeres
Leave Hubnut alone. They both love tinkering and having too many cars at a time and are car journalist's with yt channels, what's not to like about that if you are into tinkering at home. I follow both.
Im really happy and grateful for everyone watching and supporting (and hopefully enjoying) the channel, but just to put it out there, theres no rivalry between Hubnut and me, we've actually been friends since before UA-cam and used to work together, Id like to do a couple of videos with Ian if we can work out a plan, and hes in the same country for long enough!
I have a 240 from 1987 with 450.000km on the clock... I dont even dare to lift the carpet! Schrodingers rust you know...
Its fine as long as you dont...
I have noticed that you, sir, own a variety of beanie hats. Excellent, I also own many beanie hats. I call myself a sort of unofficial beanie hat collector. My wife thinks I own far too many beanie hats, but she's an idiot. Huge thumbs up on yet another excellent video!
Too right, you cant have too many, one for every occasion!
Since you are already chasing rust, I would suggest to check behind the strut towers where the inner fender, wheel arch and firewall meet. It's hard to get to, but a typical place for these cars to rust.
Also check the crossmember support under the radiator.
If the boot/cargo space is wet, make sure the drain plugs are not plugged with dirt or undercoating.
Over all a nice car :)
Is that a front wing off check? Ive heard you need to remove them to clear something
@@furiousdriving No, you can check it with the wing on. Between the stut tower and windshield. Underneath the support that goes over the connectors for the wiring. It might be easier with the wing off, but it's not required.
@@furiousdriving Also; Check to see if the water in the car might be coolant. There is a valve for the heater core inside the firewall that start to leak. This causes a wet footwell. I'm not sure if the RHD cars have it on the same place as LHD cars. Follow the coolant lines from the engine to the firewall. Right on the inside you will find the valve. Part number is 9447891 if you want to Google it to see what it looks like. Most likely on the left side under the dash, right above where the carpet ends.
@@aleksanderk359 I think I know where you mean, I got in there with the hose when I was cleaning it - it looked solid in that corner
@@furiousdriving Check both sides :)
Very good job, those 20 minutes are passed very easily.. If you can, find a new interior door panel for the driver side
Going to visit a Volvo breakers soon with a shopping list