If Mentour Pilot is discussing it, it’s legit. Anyone who has ever been to his channel knows who he is, and is an authority on flying and regulations. Still, looking things up for oneself doesn’t hurt.
well at least it's faster. Why would you want to die "surrounded by the ones you love" after a long battle where everyone can see the end coming? How hard it would be to detach yourself from loved ones beside you and just go off and die. How would you feel when everyone around you is battling their sadness and you have no choice? @scotttillman01
@@saladien9987 question: what "medicine" were all of the U.S. pilots FORCED to take in order to keep their jobs? What 'side effects" are when you take that "medicine"? Do you know what is graphene oxide that is in all of those injections? Do you know what happens to blood when you have huge amount of graphene oxide in your blood and you are going through the changes of atmospheric pressure? Do you know that jabs have spike proteins? How can people like you not know what is really going on?
@@zeeman9145 maybe they use that in Astra Zenica or some other one but independent research found no traces of it in BioNTechs vaccines. So any other claims?
So sorry for this loss of this bright, talented and intelligent person. Wishing peace and comfort to all who knew him and are affected by his passing. Take care. 💐
@@joakimberg7897 he’s js stating what needs to be said. How do you feel “sorrow” for a person u never knew personally, they could’ve js said rip and followed up with the rest of the things that they they said. It’s literally like when ppl will be grieving for a celebrity who died that they never had any type of relationship with or you’ll see comments from ppl about a celebrity who passed and they’ll say they miss them so much. like huhh make it make sense
You can tell from Captain Hendrickson that he has 1,000 things going through his mind as he's talk with ATC. How he was able to keep it together during that is amazing to me.
Co-pilot handled it so professionally under these circumstances, RIP Captain Ford. This does serve as an epiphany.... No one knows when their time is up. Look at those you love and tell them every day how much you love them, you never know when it might be the last time. Live, Love and regret nothing.
The FO was a training captain training or checking the pilot in the left seat. It’s a blessing he was a training pilot. If it was a brand new pilot this would have been a lot more difficult situation.
Nice flying indeed. But the time wasted screwing around on ground rather than getting the paramedics in there ASAP might have made the difference between life and death for that captain.
Why don’t you , I Don’t need help with human interaction toward my family . Keep that shit to yourself . And by the way some people tell you they love you but in reality they couldn’t give a shit. Good luck in fantasy land
No, terrible work! They should have gotten the paramedics immediately, instead of slowly going for the gate. And supposedly the dying pilot was not given any first aid?
Hats off to the first officer and ATC here. Like seriously, amazing work. They both stayed completely calm and handled the situation as if nothing had happened. This air traffic controller and first officer deserve recognition for this!
@@j700jam4 How would the paramedics get onboard an aircraft with an entrance 20 feet in the air if it wasn't at the gate? He made the right call, the flight attendants were rendering aid as they are trained to do. It was quicker to take the aircraft to a gate than to bus out airstairs which are seldom ready to go at major airports.
I’m amazed that everybody managed to sound so calm. They’re probably trained for those situations but I would’ve been freaking out over comms. RIP Captain Ford, so sorry for the loss.
That natural reaction to freak out is precisely the reason for so much training. After preparing so extensively for emergencies, when it does happen you are better able to switch into emergency mode and go through the steps you’ve trained for without having to stop and collect your emotions first. This video definitely shows how that training helps everyone be prepared and calm, and thus avoid making critical mistakes that could make the situation so much worse.
Used to work as a community carer, we would go to vulnerable people's houses and get their meds, dinner etc. We didn't have much training, but the most training we had was on what to do if we entered the property and the service user was dying. Having a clear plan of action and having it in your head ready to action saves precious minutes.
I remember working at telephone switch board in the army. I got a radiocall from the training field requesting to be forwarded to the medic center. They didn't answer. Then because the commander on the radio was so calm, I kept trying for a pretty long time. Days later, I learn that the person with whom I was talking on the radio, was injured by an accidental detonation of explosives. If I knew about the severity, I would imediatly have involved other parties to assist, as I had firedepartment in the next room, and MP and gate guards in the next building, they would have had vehicles, and been able to drive over to the medic center. Thinking back on how I think I should have responded differently: I think the responce from ATC should have been to: get the plane on the ground, and have paramedic stand by the runway, not to waste time taxi to the gate. Still I Understand it can be difficult to grasp the severity of a situation when the person calling in is that calm. When an aircraft has to return because the pilot is out, it might be that miute and seconds count. Just like a request for medic center from the army training field, where the handle explosives and weapons, should be considered emergency, unless stricly informed that it is not urgent.
@@OriginalSentiment you can't just pull them from the seat when flying. Small space and it would risk hitting switches and buttons + they need to land the aircraft safely
@@OriginalSentiment There are not Air Marshall's on every flight. There are plenty of reasons why removing the pilot to start medical right away might not have been doable or even the right choice. You only have some of the information, why would you say the situation was handled badly and insinuate you could have done better?
I'd argue that he should have declared and had the medics waiting on the taxiway. Delays for things like taxi can make the difference between life and death in some cases.
That would have got the pilot qualified attention sooner . The problem with that is that there is no easy way to get a stetcher out of the aircraft other than the gate so it would have delayed getting him to the hospital. I have seen similar situations but the outcome was better.
@@miker9082 Obviously every facility is different, but every class-B airport I've operated out of had a fire department that could do it quickly. EMTs carrying someone down from their upstairs bedroom where a rolling stretcher won't fit is no more challenging than carrying them down airstairs--most any EMS agency will have a variety of chairs/slings/etc built just for that purpose. It's something that they drill regularly.
I was crying throughout this because you can hear the pilot's voice breaking on several occasions, but he did his job, he did his captain proud ... RIP Captain Ford - may you always be flying with the wind at your back & the blue sky above you 💔
There's redundancy in every critical system in an aircraft. Pilots are of course critical for safe operation of the aircraft so redundancy MUST be in place. I hope this "movement" never ends up becoming an actual thing. This situation highlights the exact reason why having one pilot is a bad idea. A solo pilot suffering a medical episode will result in the death of all on board.
Rest in Peace captain Ford you will truly be missed, now sir you have Earned your Heavenly Wings!. My deepest condolences to his wife, family, friends and especially to the co pilot and crew who flew with the captain on that day. May you all have Peace in this trying time.❤️🙏🕊️
@@user-vu5zx2us1g Sorry I don't play into negativity , you have a right to your opinion. May Heavenly Father bless you and give you Peace 🕊️. Happy Holidays 🙏
@Charles McKinley words are words. They are structured to provide a message. Oftentimes the words used can be torn apart and twisted to attack a figurative phrase the way you did, if one chooses. The message here has nothing to do with heaven and everything to do with conveying sentiments, condolences and mourning. But we can twist them all day long as you do while ignoring that meaning. It doesn't make you look intelligent, it makes you look like a troll. Ass move... ass move.
@Charles McKinley read my words. I will say it again: Oftentimes the phrasing of a sentence can be taken only in part while ignoring the way it which it was presented and said and what those parts mean towards the whole of their message. You are doing that. Thus you are the one twisting. This is called context. Something which twice now over different things I have come under suspicion that you have no understanding of. It applies in language to. I suggest you learn it. As to your negativity. Venissia Johnson is correct. Your comment had cherry picked a piece of her comment and attacked it out of context of the original meaning and way she used it. You took a message of mourning and understanding and trampled all over it. This is very negative. A mistake is understandable, in fact I am not entirely sure your first comment can accurately be described as being negative because of it. But you didnt stop there when corrected and having it clarified. Instead you doubled down. Furthering your own negative input on the matter. Her comment wasnt even conveying any "truth" about heaven, but rather making a pleasing feel good wordplay with a bit of lighthearted humor and respect. Thus your follow up comments are no more than nonsensical nitpicking and serves no purpose other than to pointlessly attack. Rather you realize what you are doing before or not, now you cannot remain wholly ignorant of it after its been pointed out. I, by extension, am actually feeding into your negativity by explaining this at all. But despite appearances, I truly do believe you have no idea of what you are saying and you are not a simple troll.
So sad. This is why airlines pushing for single pilot operation is foolish. If there's a pilot shortage, park the plane. If it's about cutting expenses, it's out of the question.
As an EMT this is pretty confusing to me. I am very impressed by the professionalism of the pilot under these circumstances. Not many people come into the situation that someone dies right next to them, especially not coworkers and by far not in a situation where you HAVE TO manage so many things at the same time. And the person that died minutes ago is still sitting next to you for about 25 minutes I guess. This must be a horrific situation. I guess that the brain just switches from normal mode into an "just function and work on what happened later"-mode. But I wonder why Cpt. Ford was still in his seat the whole time. I would have expected that he was removed from the seat and given first medical treatment or resuscitation-efforts by medical trained crew members or if available medical trained passengers. I guess there are reasons for that. Could someone clarify?
Looking at the cockpit of some of these planes I'm guessing you can't just pull a body out of seat without having potential for buttons to be pushed or other issues. I could be wrong but on takeoff and with everything going on it would be a delicate situation and the last thing you would want is to complicate or oversaturate the remaining pilot until everyone else is at a point of safety which in this case was on the ground.
@@spyder000069 thanks for replying. Most likely you're right, cause they actually changed places on ground... Although this reason would be pretty unsatisfying.
@@rox1601 I'd like to point out that being in the pilots cabin is very cramped and tight, depending on the jet as well. when I was younger, I did a special needs training "class" on how to handle being in air. I was invited to sit in the pilots seat and it was VERY uncomfortable, even at such a smaller size. It would be near impossible to move a body out of the seat, fly and handle communications all at the same time. the cabins are pressurized and sealed during take off, flight and taxing.
@@zandercoronado7811 OK. Thanks for explaining. Last time I have been inside a cockpit was at the age of 7 or 8. So I have no reliable memories about the sizes...,;)
@@evryatis9231 saying you’re ‘not surprised’ that someone stayed 100% calm after his friend dies right in front of them is dismissing the gravity of the situation and just being a dickhead
RIP to Captain Ford, I wish peace upon anyone affected by his tragic passing and I am glad the check airman got the aircraft turned around and back on the ground safely.
Sad video, and I feel for his fellow airman. Something tells me this didn't have to happen this way. He should have had stairs and paramedics meet him at a ramp shortly off the runway, and he should have declared an immediate emergency so that he could get a priority return. I hope there is a learning lesson in this, because every minute counts in a situation like this.
Yeah, I noticed that they were able to get back to the runway in about 5-minutes, but didn't actually get to the gate until over 20-minutes had elapsed. RIP
Totally agreed. Nice job handling the aircraft with an incapacitated captain but still all decisions were made regarding aircraft safety and none to improve Cpt. Ford's chances of survival. Either his death was clearly irreversible to the pilot's eyes or else I don't understand why he didn't ask for immediate help on the runway.
@@purpleduracell To my knowledge that is pretty much his job. If he usually just serves coffee I stand corrected. It was medical emergency and nothing was rushed after plane landed which was very weird. Also you would think that air traffic control would have taken over after landing telling where to meet paramedics instead of "would you like to meet us at gate 1 or 70 or maybe his unconsciousness is severe enough that we would need to rush over there?". I mean that decision should have been made by paramedics and airport personel beforehand so that help was near when plane has landed.
You all seem to forget that cabin crew are onboard and are trained in emergency first aid. They might have been performing CPR while they were stopped. Taking an incapacitated pilot from his seat is no easy task, unconscious people are heavy as hell, and you have to be careful not to drag his feet all over the controls. It takes time. And if the guy had a sudden cardiac arrest, he was probably beyond saving by the time they landed.
As a former paramedic, I have had runs to our airport many times. If the pilot suffered a full cardiac arrest, 9.5 of those patients die. Even when everything goes in favor of the patient ie…CPR started, secure airway (intubation) and necessary drugs pushed. I’m sure a passenger who knew CPR, a nurse or even a physician on board was working the pilot. Those patients regurgitate and they would have no way to suction. So very many things need to happen. But if we get a “save” from a full arrest patient, it’s a great day for us. If God wants you home, there’s no earthly power to delay that. Maybe a Doctor/Nurse on board could see he was gone. Air traffic doesn’t allow for that type of message to go out over the airways.
@@matthewjohnson3379 Renember: they have to get an unconscious body taht is blocking the second seat of the ariplane out, imediatly start CPR, with the only person communicating with ATC being the pilot, and having no time to think.
First time I heard the ATC for the event I was disturbed by tower telling the first officer to contact departure to get sequenced back in. Then I noticed it was in the middle of evening rush out of Chicago O'Hare. There is too much traffic to "part the seas" and enable an immediate turn to land. Not only that, the first officer needed time to process everything and handle the aircraft. Even in this situation checklists had to be done or he could have endangered everyone. In the end, well handled by all, RIP Capt.
Moving the captain from the left seat must have been double tough. Moving a limp body isn't easy, let alone with all the stuff in a cockpit to snag on.
Also shows the professionalism of air traffic control. Predictable, almost robotic, and much needed. Pivoting from routine to the unexpected as part of their normal operations.
This happened during a landing on the plane I was on about 18 months ago. Plane came into land, very rocky, something not right, slammed on the brakes, blue lights everywhere. When we were finally allowed off after a long wait, the airline management team and police lined up on the air bridge, First Officer was very badly shaken up laid out being given oxygen. I looked in the cabin as we got off and Captain slumped in seat with Dr attending.
I agree - this shows the importance of having two people in the cockpit. Safety should come first. Cost-cutting is fine, but carried too far and people can die. I’m also surprised only the left seat has the ground control wheel.
Damn. One of my fears is dying at such an awkward moment. We all die someday, but hopefully not while other people's lives are in our hands. May we all pass peacefully in our sleep when we are ready.
@@theobserver9131 We suffer from great overpopulation - while his comment lacks empathy, he technically is right about it being better for the planet. Regardless of that, that is the reason there is 1) a co-pilot and 2) an off-duty pilot as a passenger, so that technically even both the pilot and co-pilot could pass out while the third one could still safely land the plane. That's as much safety as you get, because it's very unlikely that a healthy pilot just passes out, but even more unlikely that two pilots are passing out and statistically almost never going to happen that both pilots and the off-duty one passes out too.
Ford was the pilot flying. Therefore Hendrickson was doing ATC from the start. So he went from monitoring the radio and instruments to doing all of his responsibilities as well as the captains. Major major props to this FO!!
@@jwalster9412 the plane is already late and would probably be rescheduled anyway. He died because they did not circulate the blood under 11 minutes, making his brain die. They could have at least used CPR until paramedics arrive.
@@ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588 I am a trained medical responder. I think they could have saved his life if his incapacitation is cardiac arrest. No one bothered to do basic life support. Makes me wonder if they are trained in BLS. I thought they were mandatory to airline service.
In the beginning of the clip I find it remarkable that ATC knew which plane was talking, that didn't sound anything like 3556, most of the transmissions it sounds like 35 36...
I believe the audio that you're hearing in these videos is from some other receivers (likely offsite from the airport) and not what the ATC is using to communicate with aircraft.
@@jdmforever5583 LOL! Retired nurse practitioner not-an-MD Dr. John Campbell?! He's been fact-checked and debunked so many times that it's unbelievable you would present him to support your delusion.
So sorry to hear about the Captain and all prayers to his family. I like to think he passed doing what he loved most! Such an amazing and professional job by the tower and co-pilot.
He didn't have a way to unload him from the aircraft if on the runway, so the patient was moved and then the plane was taxied to the gate. A lot of minutes were taken that could have been avoided if they had a way to unload a patient. Am I correct in this assertion? That's how it seems to me.
i can't imagine the morbidity of flying a plane with your fellow pilot dead right next to you. i hope ford's family is at peace, and i hope the other pilot heals sooner than later. i don't even think any language on earth can describe how traumatizing that is
Lots of pilots have military experience and have been extensively trained to continue to function mentally and physically when this occurs. So much respect for military men and women.
Damn that sucks... 5:29 you can tell by his response that he knew well that it was too late for paramedics to do anything, so he chose to taxi to the gate instead of freezing the airport with an emergency.
Presumably this triggered the giving of some thought to, in future aircraft designs, positioning the nosewheel steering yoke so that it is accessible from two positions.
This is, unfortunately, a situation that is happening WAY more now than ever in the last couple of years. I wonder what would be causing all these pilots and airline staff to be dying so suddenly and unexpectedly when they're supposedly in the best of health when flying and staffing these aircraft.
@@compmanio36 Ignore what? There's no evidence to support the (false) claim that "a situation that is happening WAY more now than ever in the last couple of years." Reply with it and I'll decide whether or not to ignore it. Until then, f-off.
I got my first flying lesson just last year. The whole way to the airport I had these horrifying versions that “what if my pilot goes unconscious?” I wouldn’t even know how to tell ATC let alone land the thing.
@@smark1180 Yeah. But it has happened a lot more (specially if we count young people) during the last 2 years. They are trying to blame it on a lot of things, climate change being the most used excuse.
@@pca1987 The implication is that Covid-19 vaccines are the cause. There's no evidence of that. Sudden cardiac death has been a recognized medical issue for decades. SADS was mentioned in hundreds of medical journal articles prior to COVID-19.
@@frombrum "i look forward to seeing your research to support that this has been happening a lot more" Just look at official numbers from VAERS or Eudravigilance.
Condoleances to the family of the deceased captain and hats off the captain who took charge. The ATC grey screen with the planes moving all over the place gives me the jitters...
I seriously wonder if the captain did not realize a person can be revived minutes after their heart and breathing stops. That's the only thing I can think of that makes sense, but also makes very little sense.
I would think the crew are trained in CPR and wouldn't even need to wait for paramedics. He probably determinded the guy was deceased, or maybe they ever tried CPR and failed.
From the some of the comments I've read here, I wouldn't be surprised if he thought that. I've read "he had no pulse, he was a gonner, already dead....." Etc
you have 5 minutes from stopping of breathing. It took about that long to just circle for a landing and you CANNOT be trying to wrangle a body out of the seat while the Pilot it flying and maneuvering, that puts the aircraft at risk. His priority it to fly the plane and get it down safely.
@@oldmanjim2376 Well the pilot knew when the other person went unconscious but he had no way of telling when he stopped breathing. They should have started CPR immediately after landing and called the medics there because only they would have the right to declare someone dead.
@Saki again, CPR would have no effect. Even in the best circumstances, it fails 90% of the time. To remove the political safely, the aircraft would have had to be completely shut down. Those seats are very close to the console and with the center console, it would be extremely difficult to remove the pilot. You can Monday morning quarterback all you want, but until you are in his situation, you don't know what you'd do. The pilot made the right call and focused on the aircraft and passengers. His first priority is to aviate. To fly the plane safely.
Imagine having to do your job, remain calm while you communicate with the tower, crew, & passengers, and physically move the body of your deceased co-worker from his work station so that you can take over. 😮 That's a true professional. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Holy fuck dude this one brought a little tear, the tone of old mates voice is so hurt but he maintained so well. RIP Captain Ford, fly in heaven brother
@@MattyEngland I suggest you listen again. He sounds like he's choking back a lot of emotions. Every single sentence he finished with a lower intonation, this is not characteristic of normal happy English.
My condolences 💐 to Cap and fam. But i immediately become a little angry when I think of the reason this may have happened, and how the “authority figures” in tech, media, big business, government, etc refuse to allow the citizenry to question, investigate, or discuss the likely cause of a perfectly healthy young man to “die suddenly”.
I never was keen on flying, but it is unlikely I will EVER fly again until this is sorted out. How is it possible for anyone flying to make sure that at least one of their pilots is a pureblood?
I’ve imagined what I would do in this scenario before and this is more or less my gameplan: Declare emergency (I don’t want any misunderstandings, I need that immediate and priority return) I’ll get the cabin chief in to the flight deck to check on the incapacitated pilot (is he breathing, etc.) If CPR is needed, get him out if the seat and into the cabin. If cabin crew can’t lift him, find a stronger passenger to help. Tell ATC I need ambulance and stairs present at the aircraft when we stop. I’ll emphasis how important that the stairs are there. Get any handling company to bring out stairs or get fire and rescue to bring it, but it needs to be there. I’ll start the APU so I can shut down the aircraft’s engines after landing without losing power and cabin lights. If there is a high speed off ramp I’ll vacate the runway, but if not I’m stopping and staying on the runway (theres a limit to how sharp of a turn you can make from the right seat). After shutting down I expect the stairs to be present and attached to the aircraft immediately. If for some reason the stairs are not there but the ambulance is I’ll deploy a slide and send the body of the incapacitated pilot down to the medics so they can start proper treatment without any unnecessary delay. After that I’ll brief the passengers, check how the cabin crew is doing psychologically (they have been doing CPR on a friend and colleague, they might be traumatised), disembark the passengers when the stairs and bus show up and then get the aircraft towed to a gate/stand. Finally debrief the cabin crew and get them the support they need.
I agree with everything you said. The captains life should have been priority. I may have even tried to remove him from the seat to begin medical treatment when at a safe altitude and steady on the downwind leg
100% agree here. Had there been some interventional medicine once the flight stabilized at 5000ft for the downwind, Capt Ford may have been saved. The fact that the check pilot kept under control was good, there should have been a declared emergency, and those procedures mixed with basic first aid/life support probably would have saved a life. I'd be curious as to why no declaration of an emergency was made.
I am no pilot, so cant talk about the piloting stuff, but 100% agree. Just making sure, this is not to blame the other pilot. This must be a very stressful situation and the life of many people has to go above the life of one. That being said, I dont really understand why he couldnt get the cabin crew or whoever (maybe even a passenger doctor) to start first aid on the pilot. One thing I have always learned is that every single second counts. Taxiing all the way to the Gate seems very time intensive to me 😕
@@Skycrafter328 in situations like these, performing first aid would be near impossible as u need to remove the cap from his seat, and the jet was flying and the cockpit was operational, so removing him would be near impossible. So the priority would be to get the jet safely on ground according to procedure. Thats what I would imagine, I am no expert either.
@@retardmoguss I see, is it because the cockpit is too small to "lift" someone out of the chair while another perosn needs to control the plane or how can I imagine it? Is there also a special reason why they wouldn't get the paramedics to the plane as soon as it was of the main landing strip and on the small P2 curve thing?
Why didn’t they have the paramedics meet the plane sooner? Would it have been impossible to board the plane without the jetway? I want more than one heartbeat on the flight deck.
Why didn't he have paramedics meet the plane on the runway or taxiway? Even if he could not be removed, first aid could be started? It sounded as if for a moment he considered how the pilot could be removed. Once on the ground it sounds like no priority was given. Questions now are 1) will there be a lawsuit 2) will policy change to treat a medical emergency as an emergency?
A highly fit, 54-year-old man, a former Marine, just suddenly dies of a heart attack while sitting in a seat. There are so many of these stories. I seem to hear these stories much more now than I did 5 years ago
Exactly. Globalists flying to Davos insisted on "clean" pilots and hundreds of pilots have said "no" knowing they would lose their jobs.@@jdmforever5583
@@janemary8339 I hope you never are in a position to see someone die in front of you but, let me assure you, there's a difference between "dying" and "dead" and you can definitely tell on sight. It's not something you ever forget. What the copilot knew, though, was how long between the time the guy stopped breathing and the time they got landed again. If it was longer than five minutes you're not getting him back.
@@miker9082 No doubt you are right. One day science will uncover the reason why. Probably a climate change thing. In the meantime I suggest watching Mentour's "How YOU can land a passenger aircraft! 12 steps" here on UA-cam.
@@MattyEngland ... firefighters are at the airport standing by, but not paramedics (ambulance). Flight attendants are trained to do CPR and will make an announcement requesting help from any doctors or EMT on board. To stop on the runway, would waste more valuable time waiting for a paramedic. If you get to a gate, there is a greater chance there's a doctor or EMT in the airport that could assist.
Good job by the controller. A very unusual situation (effectively a surprise arrival) in a place with dense traffic. The upside of being at O’Hare is the very long runways for landing a fully fuelled small aircraft.
It sounds like they didn't make any efforts to safe him, he was left in his seat for over 15 minutes. Of course he is dead. He would have had brain damage after about 4 minutes.
Exactly. Wasting all that time for a gate when they offered to have the medics meet them ASAP. And clearly he was not removed from his seat to start CPR. Don't flight attendants know CPR? Someone on that plane did. Everyone may have remained calm, but that's not how you handle a cardiac arrest.
@@Ch-yz4yt 1- There is no room on the flight deck of an E175LP to lay someone out for CPR. 2- The door to the flight deck would have been locked, so even if someone knew CPR, they wouldn't have been able to get in. 3- The pilot would have been too busy handling the jobs of both seats, communications, and a fuel dump while lining up an approach to just get up out of his seat and open the door. Without all of the dangers involved with all of the other simultaneous aircraft operations, it would take paramedics nearly as long to drive out to the aircraft, make entry, and start rescue efforts; all while sitting on an active taxiway with cross traffic on the runways as it would to go to a gate. The more complex you make an operation, the greater chance of failure and danger to everyone, including ground crews, other flights in progress and the passengers on the plane. This pilot had to make very serious and gut wrenching decisions. literally on the fly. Belittling him and anyone else involved with the 20/20 vision of hindsight is disrespectful to the man who lost his life that day.
@@user-vu5zx2us1g Moving a person for more room happens all the time. The door could have been unlocked. It is an emergency situation. There are any number of folks on board a plane that either have medical training or at least know how to do quality CPR. Furthermore, no one is assumed dead. There isn't a service in the world that allows you to look at someone, without significant signs IE trauma, rigor, lividity, and call death. There is no way the co pilot, even if he were a doctor, would be able to look at him after a heart attack and say he was dead with no chance. While I will agree that with a plane full of people you have to take control and land the plane, that airlines don't have policies and procedures in place for this kind of scenario without "oh well he's dead" seems short sighted at best. And this is coming from a medic of 20 years. So yes, I've done a lot of CPR in some spaces you wouldn't believe.
In other words, the pilot in training died, the check pilot, despite having a code brown moment, took charge and when a deadheading pilot arrived, had the death confirmed. At that point, no need to hurry for medical, as no medical can fix dead. I've done a Heimlich on my teen at the time daughter, while considering a surgical airway, which is contraindicated at that age, when her airway finally cleared. I've performed CPR on my wife of over 41 years, to no avail, she was down too long and what caused it wasn't going away. You do what you have to do, what you've trained to do. Doesn't erase an emotional burden, but it does delay it while you take care of what has to be taken care of and that's one of the hardest lessons to teach others. I've had commanders question if I was a human or robot, I'm human, but I do what's needed at that moment, later, I'll mourn or otherwise emotionally respond. Later, in war, well, that came in handy. Now, excuse me while I clear your net. It's coming up on a year after my wife died, so I'm going to get a bit drunk. Then, tomorrow morning, figure out a grocery delivery billing issue that's tangled to hell and gone... To err is human, to really foul up requires a computer.
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And here some places are trying to get rid of the 2nd body in the cockpit due to staffing shortages. Crazy stuff.
no matter the job that's not ever a good idea
@Tom Gulbranson MentourPilot was talking about it.
@Tom Gulbranson of course. Not sure whats got your jimmies all in a bundle dude...
@Tom Gulbranson You can do some quick searching. It was just something that was being discussed. Good lord man, grow up.
If Mentour Pilot is discussing it, it’s legit. Anyone who has ever been to his channel knows who he is, and is an authority on flying and regulations. Still, looking things up for oneself doesn’t hurt.
If there's a silver lining in this death it is he died doing what he loved and no one else went with him. Blue skies and fair winds Captian.
Actually was my thought too…
Can't ask for more than that. We're just here for a temporary ride .
What a weird thing to say. Lol
Really? You’d prefer to die at work rather than at home surrounded by your family?
well at least it's faster. Why would you want to die "surrounded by the ones you love" after a long battle where everyone can see the end coming? How hard it would be to detach yourself from loved ones beside you and just go off and die. How would you feel when everyone around you is battling their sadness and you have no choice?
@scotttillman01
He took off into the skies and never landed again. Fly high. RIP
fly high with pfizer.
He died doing what he loved :(
i sniff farts.
@@officialJoCa 🔥
And I’m sure he wouldn’t have wanted it any other way ❤
Props to the pilot for keeping everything smooth it must be a horrendous and scary situation.
A good thing is almost never happens it's still very safe flying
@@conservativedragon as long as mRNA spike proteins do not hit BOTH pilots at same time
@@zeeman9145 what should that have to do with this?
@@saladien9987 question: what "medicine" were all of the U.S. pilots FORCED to take in order to keep their jobs? What 'side effects" are when you take that "medicine"? Do you know what is graphene oxide that is in all of those injections? Do you know what happens to blood when you have huge amount of graphene oxide in your blood and you are going through the changes of atmospheric pressure? Do you know that jabs have spike proteins? How can people like you not know what is really going on?
@@zeeman9145 maybe they use that in Astra Zenica or some other one but independent research found no traces of it in BioNTechs vaccines. So any other claims?
You can just hear the sadness in the co-pilot's voice whilst maintaining calm in the situation 💔
So sorry for this loss of this bright, talented and intelligent person.
Wishing peace and comfort to all who knew him and are affected by his passing.
Take care.
💐
Intelligent? Probably another s u i c i d e by m r n a 🤣
Intelligent? Another s.u,i.c,i.d,e by m.r,n.a 🤣
bro u dont even know him...
@@tooru Have some damn respect.
@@joakimberg7897 he’s js stating what needs to be said. How do you feel “sorrow” for a person u never knew personally, they could’ve js said rip and followed up with the rest of the things that they they said. It’s literally like when ppl will be grieving for a celebrity who died that they never had any type of relationship with or you’ll see comments from ppl about a celebrity who passed and they’ll say they miss them so much. like huhh make it make sense
You can tell from Captain Hendrickson that he has 1,000 things going through his mind as he's talk with ATC. How he was able to keep it together during that is amazing to me.
Co-pilot handled it so professionally under these circumstances, RIP Captain Ford.
This does serve as an epiphany.... No one knows when their time is up. Look at those you love and tell them every day how much you love them, you never know when it might be the last time. Live, Love and regret nothing.
The FO was a training captain training or checking the pilot in the left seat. It’s a blessing he was a training pilot. If it was a brand new pilot this would have been a lot more difficult situation.
Nice flying indeed. But the time wasted screwing around on ground rather than getting the paramedics in there ASAP might have made the difference between life and death for that captain.
Why don’t you , I Don’t need help with human interaction toward my family . Keep that shit to yourself . And by the way some people tell you they love you but in reality they couldn’t give a shit. Good luck in fantasy land
@@francophonie129 Would've taken just as long to get paramedics out there & onto the plane.
No, terrible work! They should have gotten the paramedics immediately, instead of slowly going for the gate. And supposedly the dying pilot was not given any first aid?
This is why there should always be more than 1 pilot in case of emergency.
Hats off to the first officer and ATC here. Like seriously, amazing work. They both stayed completely calm and handled the situation as if nothing had happened. This air traffic controller and first officer deserve recognition for this!
Such calmness and professionalism in the midst of a potential tragedy. Hat's off to him.
not to mention the trauma of having to watch someone die in front of you like that, he handled it so well
He rejected ATC calls for paramedic assistance numerous times.
It sounded as if there were medical personnel onboard. It must have been horrific to watch your friend died and have to maintain your composure.
@@j700jam4 How would the paramedics get onboard an aircraft with an entrance 20 feet in the air if it wasn't at the gate?
He made the right call, the flight attendants were rendering aid as they are trained to do. It was quicker to take the aircraft to a gate than to bus out airstairs which are seldom ready to go at major airports.
The professionalism shown by the pilot and the Air Traffic Control team is exemplary here.
Absolutely. I guess he might have had an emotional breakdown _after_ the whole thing was over.
I’m amazed that everybody managed to sound so calm. They’re probably trained for those situations but I would’ve been freaking out over comms. RIP Captain Ford, so sorry for the loss.
Former military pilot.
That natural reaction to freak out is precisely the reason for so much training. After preparing so extensively for emergencies, when it does happen you are better able to switch into emergency mode and go through the steps you’ve trained for without having to stop and collect your emotions first. This video definitely shows how that training helps everyone be prepared and calm, and thus avoid making critical mistakes that could make the situation so much worse.
Used to work as a community carer, we would go to vulnerable people's houses and get their meds, dinner etc. We didn't have much training, but the most training we had was on what to do if we entered the property and the service user was dying.
Having a clear plan of action and having it in your head ready to action saves precious minutes.
I remember working at telephone switch board in the army. I got a radiocall from the training field requesting to be forwarded to the medic center. They didn't answer. Then because the commander on the radio was so calm, I kept trying for a pretty long time. Days later, I learn that the person with whom I was talking on the radio, was injured by an accidental detonation of explosives. If I knew about the severity, I would imediatly have involved other parties to assist, as I had firedepartment in the next room, and MP and gate guards in the next building, they would have had vehicles, and been able to drive over to the medic center.
Thinking back on how I think I should have responded differently:
I think the responce from ATC should have been to: get the plane on the ground, and have paramedic stand by the runway, not to waste time taxi to the gate.
Still I Understand it can be difficult to grasp the severity of a situation when the person calling in is that calm.
When an aircraft has to return because the pilot is out, it might be that miute and seconds count.
Just like a request for medic center from the army training field, where the handle explosives and weapons, should be considered emergency, unless stricly informed that it is not urgent.
As a woman you shouldn't be anywhere near the controls of a plane anyway.
How awful. I don't think he realized even that he had passed, but just passed out. Handled so well. My heart goes out to all.
Thats the way most of us want to go
@@OriginalSentiment you can't just pull them from the seat when flying. Small space and it would risk hitting switches and buttons + they need to land the aircraft safely
@@OriginalSentiment There are not Air Marshall's on every flight. There are plenty of reasons why removing the pilot to start medical right away might not have been doable or even the right choice. You only have some of the information, why would you say the situation was handled badly and insinuate you could have done better?
If he died I think he would know. The human body does disturbing things as the brain dies.
@@hgbugalou It depends on the manner of death, but most of the time the body does absolutely nothing as the brain dies.
I'd argue that he should have declared and had the medics waiting on the taxiway. Delays for things like taxi can make the difference between life and death in some cases.
That would have got the pilot qualified attention sooner . The problem with that is that there is no easy way to get a stetcher out of the aircraft other than the gate so it would have delayed getting him to the hospital. I have seen similar situations but the outcome was better.
@@miker9082 Obviously every facility is different, but every class-B airport I've operated out of had a fire department that could do it quickly. EMTs carrying someone down from their upstairs bedroom where a rolling stretcher won't fit is no more challenging than carrying them down airstairs--most any EMS agency will have a variety of chairs/slings/etc built just for that purpose. It's something that they drill regularly.
@@chetmcmasterson obviously I think the guy flying the plane is in a better position to make the call than anyone else.
@@miker9082 Certainly, but don't you think it's a useful exercise to debrief emergencies for lessons learned? Makes us all better flyers imo.
It would have taken longer trying to get him off the plane on the taxiway
I was crying throughout this because you can hear the pilot's voice breaking on several occasions, but he did his job, he did his captain proud ...
RIP Captain Ford - may you always be flying with the wind at your back & the blue sky above you 💔
Can you imagine if there had only been the one pilot?
There's a current movement to have just one pilot.
That's where the HAL 9000 computer comes in.
@@bsmith1164 ...That's when the flight attendant makes the announcement, "By the way, is there anybody on board who knows how to fly a plane?"
And this flight had 2 extra pilots 😒 🙄
How can one pilot maintain checks and balances?
There's redundancy in every critical system in an aircraft. Pilots are of course critical for safe operation of the aircraft so redundancy MUST be in place. I hope this "movement" never ends up becoming an actual thing. This situation highlights the exact reason why having one pilot is a bad idea. A solo pilot suffering a medical episode will result in the death of all on board.
Rest in Peace captain Ford you will truly be missed, now sir you have Earned your Heavenly Wings!. My deepest condolences to his wife, family, friends and especially to the co pilot and crew who flew with the captain on that day. May you all have Peace in this trying time.❤️🙏🕊️
@@user-vu5zx2us1g
I am very aware of that , it's a metaphor being a daughter of a pilot. " Wow Who Stomped On Your Tombstone"?! 😂😂
@Charles McKinley ouch... totally not what the message was about.
@@user-vu5zx2us1g
Sorry I don't play into negativity , you have a right to your opinion.
May Heavenly Father bless you and give you Peace 🕊️. Happy Holidays 🙏
@Charles McKinley words are words. They are structured to provide a message. Oftentimes the words used can be torn apart and twisted to attack a figurative phrase the way you did, if one chooses.
The message here has nothing to do with heaven and everything to do with conveying sentiments, condolences and mourning.
But we can twist them all day long as you do while ignoring that meaning.
It doesn't make you look intelligent, it makes you look like a troll.
Ass move... ass move.
@Charles McKinley read my words. I will say it again:
Oftentimes the phrasing of a sentence can be taken only in part while ignoring the way it which it was presented and said and what those parts mean towards the whole of their message.
You are doing that.
Thus you are the one twisting.
This is called context. Something which twice now over different things I have come under suspicion that you have no understanding of. It applies in language to. I suggest you learn it.
As to your negativity. Venissia Johnson is correct. Your comment had cherry picked a piece of her comment and attacked it out of context of the original meaning and way she used it.
You took a message of mourning and understanding and trampled all over it. This is very negative.
A mistake is understandable, in fact I am not entirely sure your first comment can accurately be described as being negative because of it. But you didnt stop there when corrected and having it clarified. Instead you doubled down. Furthering your own negative input on the matter. Her comment wasnt even conveying any "truth" about heaven, but rather making a pleasing feel good wordplay with a bit of lighthearted humor and respect. Thus your follow up comments are no more than nonsensical nitpicking and serves no purpose other than to pointlessly attack. Rather you realize what you are doing before or not, now you cannot remain wholly ignorant of it after its been pointed out.
I, by extension, am actually feeding into your negativity by explaining this at all. But despite appearances, I truly do believe you have no idea of what you are saying and you are not a simple troll.
RIP Captain Ford. My bro in law flew for AA for 40 years and is in heaven. I have said a prayer and asked him to find you and comfort you.
So sad. This is why airlines pushing for single pilot operation is foolish. If there's a pilot shortage, park the plane. If it's about cutting expenses, it's out of the question.
As an EMT this is pretty confusing to me. I am very impressed by the professionalism of the pilot under these circumstances. Not many people come into the situation that someone dies right next to them, especially not coworkers and by far not in a situation where you HAVE TO manage so many things at the same time. And the person that died minutes ago is still sitting next to you for about 25 minutes I guess. This must be a horrific situation. I guess that the brain just switches from normal mode into an "just function and work on what happened later"-mode.
But I wonder why Cpt. Ford was still in his seat the whole time. I would have expected that he was removed from the seat and given first medical treatment or resuscitation-efforts by medical trained crew members or if available medical trained passengers. I guess there are reasons for that. Could someone clarify?
Looking at the cockpit of some of these planes I'm guessing you can't just pull a body out of seat without having potential for buttons to be pushed or other issues. I could be wrong but on takeoff and with everything going on it would be a delicate situation and the last thing you would want is to complicate or oversaturate the remaining pilot until everyone else is at a point of safety which in this case was on the ground.
@@spyder000069 thanks for replying. Most likely you're right, cause they actually changed places on ground... Although this reason would be pretty unsatisfying.
@@rox1601 I'd like to point out that being in the pilots cabin is very cramped and tight, depending on the jet as well. when I was younger, I did a special needs training "class" on how to handle being in air. I was invited to sit in the pilots seat and it was VERY uncomfortable, even at such a smaller size. It would be near impossible to move a body out of the seat, fly and handle communications all at the same time. the cabins are pressurized and sealed during take off, flight and taxing.
@@zandercoronado7811 OK. Thanks for explaining. Last time I have been inside a cockpit was at the age of 7 or 8. So I have no reliable memories about the sizes...,;)
I think its possible he didn't know he was dead.
They clearly ask for a Paramedic which you dont need if you are deceased
Unbelievable First Officer. What a brave man he is. Pls God give him comfort when he can't forget this horror.
he's not a first officer, he's another Captain who was training Captain Ford - that's why he was so good
Damn. How sad. My sympathy to the pilot and his family. And kudos to the Co pilot for keeping his cool. I can’t even imagine.
Co pilots still have hundreds of hours of flight in experience, so i'm not that surprised that he kept his calm
@BOB K what a horrible take
@@evryatis9231 his friend literally died right next to him?
@@rmx39 and hundreds people more would die if he had panicked
@@evryatis9231 saying you’re ‘not surprised’ that someone stayed 100% calm after his friend dies right in front of them is dismissing the gravity of the situation and just being a dickhead
RIP to Captain Ford, I wish peace upon anyone affected by his tragic passing and I am glad the check airman got the aircraft turned around and back on the ground safely.
sponsored by pfizer is not a tragic passing. it is a crime.
You gotta respect the supporting pilot who did everything else in managing the situation. Good thinking.
Sad video, and I feel for his fellow airman. Something tells me this didn't have to happen this way. He should have had stairs and paramedics meet him at a ramp shortly off the runway, and he should have declared an immediate emergency so that he could get a priority return. I hope there is a learning lesson in this, because every minute counts in a situation like this.
Yeah, I noticed that they were able to get back to the runway in about 5-minutes, but didn't actually get to the gate until over 20-minutes had elapsed. RIP
Totally agreed. Nice job handling the aircraft with an incapacitated captain but still all decisions were made regarding aircraft safety and none to improve Cpt. Ford's chances of survival. Either his death was clearly irreversible to the pilot's eyes or else I don't understand why he didn't ask for immediate help on the runway.
Easy to be an armchair pilot in such a situation, but the important part is he got the plane on the ground safely.
@@purpleduracell To my knowledge that is pretty much his job. If he usually just serves coffee I stand corrected.
It was medical emergency and nothing was rushed after plane landed which was very weird. Also you would think that air traffic control would have taken over after landing telling where to meet paramedics instead of "would you like to meet us at gate 1 or 70 or maybe his unconsciousness is severe enough that we would need to rush over there?". I mean that decision should have been made by paramedics and airport personel beforehand so that help was near when plane has landed.
You all seem to forget that cabin crew are onboard and are trained in emergency first aid. They might have been performing CPR while they were stopped. Taking an incapacitated pilot from his seat is no easy task, unconscious people are heavy as hell, and you have to be careful not to drag his feet all over the controls. It takes time. And if the guy had a sudden cardiac arrest, he was probably beyond saving by the time they landed.
As a former paramedic, I have had runs to our airport many times. If the pilot suffered a full cardiac arrest, 9.5 of those patients die. Even when everything goes in favor of the patient ie…CPR started, secure airway (intubation) and necessary drugs pushed. I’m sure a passenger who knew CPR, a nurse or even a physician on board was working the pilot. Those patients regurgitate and they would have no way to suction. So very many things need to happen. But if we get a “save” from a full arrest patient, it’s a great day for us. If God wants you home, there’s no earthly power to delay that. Maybe a Doctor/Nurse on board could see he was gone. Air traffic doesn’t allow for that type of message to go out over the airways.
It is interesting they didn’t seem in too much of a rush to get paramedics to meet them on the runway. Maybe they already knew it was too late.
@@matthewjohnson3379 Renember: they have to get an unconscious body taht is blocking the second seat of the ariplane out, imediatly start CPR, with the only person communicating with ATC being the pilot, and having no time to think.
He died of immediate cardiac arrest . They knew he is dead .
How can half a patient die, as in 9.5? Did you mean 9.5 out of 600? What about 9.5 out of 12?
It's a typo, it's 95%
Reminder to everyone that it can go dark just like that. Tell your loved ones that you love them, tonight.
I hope the Co-pilot doesn’t let this haunt him. He did a great job.
Co pilot is next in line for clotting and stroke.
What a horrible situation for the check pilot! And all this in one of the busiest airspaces
Great to have you back ATV!
First time I heard the ATC for the event I was disturbed by tower telling the first officer to contact departure to get sequenced back in. Then I noticed it was in the middle of evening rush out of Chicago O'Hare. There is too much traffic to "part the seas" and enable an immediate turn to land. Not only that, the first officer needed time to process everything and handle the aircraft. Even in this situation checklists had to be done or he could have endangered everyone.
In the end, well handled by all, RIP Capt.
Fortunately he was a "Check Pilot" and most likely had superior skills on that particular aircraft than that of the PIC.
At around 6:00 it sounded like he was gonna ask how the paramedics would get him from their current location before just deciding to wait to taxi.
Moving the captain from the left seat must have been double tough. Moving a limp body isn't easy, let alone with all the stuff in a cockpit to snag on.
Peace and comfort the family and friends of Capt. FORD.
peace and comfort to pfizer.
Pilot did great maintaining his composure and getting everyone down safe. RIP Captain.
Also shows the professionalism of air traffic control. Predictable, almost robotic, and much needed. Pivoting from routine to the unexpected as part of their normal operations.
This happened during a landing on the plane I was on about 18 months ago. Plane came into land, very rocky, something not right, slammed on the brakes, blue lights everywhere. When we were finally allowed off after a long wait, the airline management team and police lined up on the air bridge, First Officer was very badly shaken up laid out being given oxygen. I looked in the cabin as we got off and Captain slumped in seat with Dr attending.
I agree - this shows the importance of having two people in the cockpit. Safety should come first. Cost-cutting is fine, but carried too far and people can die. I’m also surprised only the left seat has the ground control wheel.
Nice to see you again ATV !, and my Deepest condolences to the pilot and his family
Sincere condolences to Captain Ford's family and friends. Enjoy the view from heaven Sir. Fitting place for a pilot.
Thanks to the co pilot and atc who did a great job staying cool under pressure.
Damn. One of my fears is dying at such an awkward moment. We all die someday, but hopefully not while other people's lives are in our hands. May we all pass peacefully in our sleep when we are ready.
lol ... if you die, you die ... what does it matter? 1 live, 200 lives ... the latter is just better for the planet.
@@TheScytheMoron I guess if you're a psychopath it doesn't matter.
@@theobserver9131 Nah i just follow the teachings of thanos. Sadly ... he is just fiction. (which .. is kinda like in any religion ...)
@@theobserver9131 We suffer from great overpopulation - while his comment lacks empathy, he technically is right about it being better for the planet. Regardless of that, that is the reason there is 1) a co-pilot and 2) an off-duty pilot as a passenger, so that technically even both the pilot and co-pilot could pass out while the third one could still safely land the plane. That's as much safety as you get, because it's very unlikely that a healthy pilot just passes out, but even more unlikely that two pilots are passing out and statistically almost never going to happen that both pilots and the off-duty one passes out too.
@@ezikhoyo WRONG
There is no over population, all the people on earth could live in texas at the current pop density of japan
i have read of in flight pilot deaths, up until 2020 , six, after 2020, over one hundred .
Hmmm. That's converning....
Pure coincidence
Safe and effective
@@milchi5122 😂
Sounds like a load of nonsense to me.
Damn, his last words were reading back takeoff clearance. Just goes to show that we can go at anytime
Ford was the pilot flying. Therefore Hendrickson was doing ATC from the start. So he went from monitoring the radio and instruments to doing all of his responsibilities as well as the captains. Major major props to this FO!!
I mean. What a way to go though. Dude took off and kept going straight to heaven, doing what he loved.
RIP Captain Ford.
And kudos to Captain Hendrickson, he certainly showed, why hes a linecheck captain!
That copilot wasted as much time as possible for the captain to reach brain death. Why didn’t he just get paramedics on as soon as they landed.
@@ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588 full plane, would probably cause issues for the passengers and paramedics.
@@jwalster9412 nonsense, I’ve been in a medical emergency landing where they got the paramedics on minutes after the plane touched down
@@jwalster9412 the plane is already late and would probably be rescheduled anyway. He died because they did not circulate the blood under 11 minutes, making his brain die. They could have at least used CPR until paramedics arrive.
@@ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588 I am a trained medical responder. I think they could have saved his life if his incapacitation is cardiac arrest. No one bothered to do basic life support. Makes me wonder if they are trained in BLS. I thought they were mandatory to airline service.
In the beginning of the clip I find it remarkable that ATC knew which plane was talking, that didn't sound anything like 3556, most of the transmissions it sounds like 35 36...
Deciphering muttered callsigns is bread and butter for ATC, particularly at busy airports like ORD.
I believe the audio that you're hearing in these videos is from some other receivers (likely offsite from the airport) and not what the ATC is using to communicate with aircraft.
Guessing he died of "suddenly". Lots of that going around starting around that time.
Guessing you're gullible.
@@smark1180 guessing you haven't watched the documentary... "Died suddenly"
@@jdmforever5583 *Lied suddenly! Fact checking the Died Suddenly Shockumentary*
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@@smark1180
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@@jdmforever5583 LOL! Retired nurse practitioner not-an-MD Dr. John Campbell?!
He's been fact-checked and debunked so many times that it's unbelievable you would present him to support your delusion.
Did the pilot "suddenly died"?
"Died suddenly"
@@jdmforever5583 S.A.D.S.
Excellent calm communication between the tower and the co-pilot. Everybody's professional in this scenario
That's like, a basic requirement for being a commercial pilot. You can't afford to be easily worked up and be a pilot.
Yeah don’t worry about the dead pilot it’s all about been professional
To be fair, this was probably a sanario they trained for many times, so he probably knew what to do.
@@jwalster9412 Absolutely.
It's amazing to me how calm he can be.
How many of the treatment did he have injectable
So sorry to hear about the Captain and all prayers to his family. I like to think he passed doing what he loved most!
Such an amazing and professional job by the tower and co-pilot.
He didn't have a way to unload him from the aircraft if on the runway, so the patient was moved and then the plane was taxied to the gate. A lot of minutes were taken that could have been avoided if they had a way to unload a patient. Am I correct in this assertion? That's how it seems to me.
That was very moving. Well done pilot in the right seat.
I work @O'Hare I Heard about this, they had his plane Parked in the cargo area RIP 🙏 to the pilot
These videos stand out from the rest as being unique and well polished. The best
i can't imagine the morbidity of flying a plane with your fellow pilot dead right next to you. i hope ford's family is at peace, and i hope the other pilot heals sooner than later. i don't even think any language on earth can describe how traumatizing that is
aviate,navigate,communicate....... check pilot did did his duty.....
Lots of pilots have military experience and have been extensively trained to continue to function mentally and physically when this occurs. So much respect for military men and women.
Damn that sucks... 5:29 you can tell by his response that he knew well that it was too late for paramedics to do anything, so he chose to taxi to the gate instead of freezing the airport with an emergency.
Presumably this triggered the giving of some thought to, in future aircraft designs, positioning the nosewheel steering yoke so that it is accessible from two positions.
This is, unfortunately, a situation that is happening WAY more now than ever in the last couple of years. I wonder what would be causing all these pilots and airline staff to be dying so suddenly and unexpectedly when they're supposedly in the best of health when flying and staffing these aircraft.
Climate change. Duh 🙄
Yes, crackpottery is happening WAY more now than ever in the last couple of years.
@@toddfleury7324 🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏻👌🏻
@@smark1180 "Just ignore your own ears and eyes, only believe what the Ministry tells you is truth!" - sheep
@@compmanio36 Ignore what? There's no evidence to support the (false) claim that "a situation that is happening WAY more now than ever in the last couple of years."
Reply with it and I'll decide whether or not to ignore it.
Until then, f-off.
I got my first flying lesson just last year.
The whole way to the airport I had these horrifying versions that “what if my pilot goes unconscious?” I wouldn’t even know how to tell ATC let alone land the thing.
Really liked the way you did the graphics...Made it much more clearer than other aircraft videos out there
What a guy!!That plane was loaded with fuel and people....He is a hero for how expertly and calmly he dealt with the crisis.....
Wow...ANOTHER Sudden Death. Have a feeling this is just getting starting. So sad. Prayers for the family.
ANOTHER? People die suddenly all the time.
@@smark1180 Yeah. But it has happened a lot more (specially if we count young people) during the last 2 years. They are trying to blame it on a lot of things, climate change being the most used excuse.
@@pca1987 The implication is that Covid-19 vaccines are the cause. There's no evidence of that.
Sudden cardiac death has been a recognized medical issue for decades. SADS was mentioned in hundreds of medical journal articles prior to COVID-19.
@@pca1987
i look forward to seeing your research to support that this has been happening a lot more rather than just being reported a lot more
@@frombrum "i look forward to seeing your research to support that this has been happening a lot more"
Just look at official numbers from VAERS or Eudravigilance.
Why didnt he get paramedics onto the taxiway after landing??
Amazing! This is exactly why we must maintain a minimum of two pilot status in the cockpit.
Sorry for the loss of your pilot Captain Ford, prayers are with his family. At this difficult time.
Very sad. RIP captain. at least he went out in such a fashion.
yeah, the fashion is experimental poisons sponsored by pfizer.
What fashion? Bro just died lmao
Condoleances to the family of the deceased captain and hats off the captain who took charge.
The ATC grey screen with the planes moving all over the place gives me the jitters...
Rest in peace Captain
What an amazing display of professionalism in a terrible situation.
Great initiative to always have an off duty pilot travelling. Rest easy sir ❤
Why doesn't the 1st Officer have a nosewheel tiller to enable ground steering from his side?
Incredible First Officer! I’d be glad to fly with him any day! He was so calm and handled this situation wonderfully!
Actually it wasn't a first officer. It was a second captain performing a line check training for the pilot who died.
I seriously wonder if the captain did not realize a person can be revived minutes after their heart and breathing stops. That's the only thing I can think of that makes sense, but also makes very little sense.
I would think the crew are trained in CPR and wouldn't even need to wait for paramedics. He probably determinded the guy was deceased, or maybe they ever tried CPR and failed.
From the some of the comments I've read here, I wouldn't be surprised if he thought that. I've read "he had no pulse, he was a gonner, already dead....." Etc
you have 5 minutes from stopping of breathing. It took about that long to just circle for a landing and you CANNOT be trying to wrangle a body out of the seat while the Pilot it flying and maneuvering, that puts the aircraft at risk. His priority it to fly the plane and get it down safely.
@@oldmanjim2376 Well the pilot knew when the other person went unconscious but he had no way of telling when he stopped breathing.
They should have started CPR immediately after landing and called the medics there because only they would have the right to declare someone dead.
@Saki again, CPR would have no effect. Even in the best circumstances, it fails 90% of the time. To remove the political safely, the aircraft would have had to be completely shut down. Those seats are very close to the console and with the center console, it would be extremely difficult to remove the pilot. You can Monday morning quarterback all you want, but until you are in his situation, you don't know what you'd do. The pilot made the right call and focused on the aircraft and passengers. His first priority is to aviate. To fly the plane safely.
"Safe and effective"
"Gullible and conned."
@@smark1180 accurate description of antivaxxers
@@OutbackCatgirl "Gullible and conned."
Imagine having to do your job, remain calm while you communicate with the tower, crew, & passengers, and physically move the body of your deceased co-worker from his work station so that you can take over. 😮
That's a true professional. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Why didn't the paramedics get in as soon as they landed?? Seems like they wasted a lot of time getting to the gate.
Holy fuck dude this one brought a little tear, the tone of old mates voice is so hurt but he maintained so well.
RIP Captain Ford, fly in heaven brother
Did you watch a completely different video to the rest of us? The copilot couldn't have cared any less.
@@MattyEngland I suggest you listen again. He sounds like he's choking back a lot of emotions. Every single sentence he finished with a lower intonation, this is not characteristic of normal happy English.
Condolences to the AA Family and the Captain's Family.
My condolences 💐 to Cap and fam. But i immediately become a little angry when I think of the reason this may have happened, and how the “authority figures” in tech, media, big business, government, etc refuse to allow the citizenry to question, investigate, or discuss the likely cause of a perfectly healthy young man to “die suddenly”.
I never was keen on flying, but it is unlikely I will EVER fly again until this is sorted out. How is it possible for anyone flying to make sure that at least one of their pilots is a pureblood?
You're exactly right.
Exactly "died suddenly"
It’s been shown that sitting for hours on end is absolutely terrible for health, and it’s not even corrected by exercise.
I’ve imagined what I would do in this scenario before and this is more or less my gameplan:
Declare emergency (I don’t want any misunderstandings, I need that immediate and priority return)
I’ll get the cabin chief in to the flight deck to check on the incapacitated pilot (is he breathing, etc.)
If CPR is needed, get him out if the seat and into the cabin. If cabin crew can’t lift him, find a stronger passenger to help.
Tell ATC I need ambulance and stairs present at the aircraft when we stop. I’ll emphasis how important that the stairs are there. Get any handling company to bring out stairs or get fire and rescue to bring it, but it needs to be there.
I’ll start the APU so I can shut down the aircraft’s engines after landing without losing power and cabin lights.
If there is a high speed off ramp I’ll vacate the runway, but if not I’m stopping and staying on the runway (theres a limit to how sharp of a turn you can make from the right seat).
After shutting down I expect the stairs to be present and attached to the aircraft immediately. If for some reason the stairs are not there but the ambulance is I’ll deploy a slide and send the body of the incapacitated pilot down to the medics so they can start proper treatment without any unnecessary delay.
After that I’ll brief the passengers, check how the cabin crew is doing psychologically (they have been doing CPR on a friend and colleague, they might be traumatised), disembark the passengers when the stairs and bus show up and then get the aircraft towed to a gate/stand. Finally debrief the cabin crew and get them the support they need.
I agree with everything you said. The captains life should have been priority. I may have even tried to remove him from the seat to begin medical treatment when at a safe altitude and steady on the downwind leg
100% agree here. Had there been some interventional medicine once the flight stabilized at 5000ft for the downwind, Capt Ford may have been saved. The fact that the check pilot kept under control was good, there should have been a declared emergency, and those procedures mixed with basic first aid/life support probably would have saved a life. I'd be curious as to why no declaration of an emergency was made.
I am no pilot, so cant talk about the piloting stuff, but 100% agree. Just making sure, this is not to blame the other pilot. This must be a very stressful situation and the life of many people has to go above the life of one. That being said, I dont really understand why he couldnt get the cabin crew or whoever (maybe even a passenger doctor) to start first aid on the pilot. One thing I have always learned is that every single second counts. Taxiing all the way to the Gate seems very time intensive to me 😕
@@Skycrafter328 in situations like these, performing first aid would be near impossible as u need to remove the cap from his seat, and the jet was flying and the cockpit was operational, so removing him would be near impossible. So the priority would be to get the jet safely on ground according to procedure. Thats what I would imagine, I am no expert either.
@@retardmoguss I see, is it because the cockpit is too small to "lift" someone out of the chair while another perosn needs to control the plane or how can I imagine it? Is there also a special reason why they wouldn't get the paramedics to the plane as soon as it was of the main landing strip and on the small P2 curve thing?
I cannot fathom how awful this was. Kudos to the other pilot for staying as calm as can be
Why didn’t they have the paramedics meet the plane sooner? Would it have been impossible to board the plane without the jetway?
I want more than one heartbeat on the flight deck.
I will bet there's another autopsy result that will never see the light of day.
SADS news.
Yes exactly and you and I know exactly why....
It always amazes me when I see videos like these, how calm everyone is throughout
Why didn't he have paramedics meet the plane on the runway or taxiway? Even if he could not be removed, first aid could be started? It sounded as if for a moment he considered how the pilot could be removed. Once on the ground it sounds like no priority was given.
Questions now are 1) will there be a lawsuit 2) will policy change to treat a medical emergency as an emergency?
Was this co-pilot reluctant to say that the pilot is dead? He sure was in no hurry to get the paramedics on board.
A highly fit, 54-year-old man, a former Marine, just suddenly dies of a heart attack while sitting in a seat. There are so many of these stories. I seem to hear these stories much more now than I did 5 years ago
It’s called confirmation bias. Look it up, fascinating stuff.
@@UloPe It is interesting. That's why I'm asking. It seems odd but I am aware of my bias
Safe and effective
Exactly. Globalists flying to Davos insisted on "clean" pilots
and hundreds of pilots have said "no" knowing they would lose their jobs.@@jdmforever5583
That pilot kept his cool on the radio now matter what. Wow. Good job sir.
That First Officer is a G. Completely cool calm and collected.
Safe and effective strikes again
right
I don’t need my Secret decoder pen to figure this one out.
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Agree with you! 💯
Im kinda confused why didnt he stop immediately on the runway, let medics get the captain and then go to the gate
Exactly my thoughts...
And then sat on the taxiway without moving or allowing help for several minutes...
He was dead already, his heart stopped during take off. The time it took to get turned around and landed again was already too much. No point.
@@jasonmack760 Was he a medic to determine that?🤔
@@janemary8339 I hope you never are in a position to see someone die in front of you but, let me assure you, there's a difference between "dying" and "dead" and you can definitely tell on sight. It's not something you ever forget.
What the copilot knew, though, was how long between the time the guy stopped breathing and the time they got landed again. If it was longer than five minutes you're not getting him back.
Cockpit fatalities appear to happen more frequently.
May he rest in Peace.
@@miker9082 Hm. Will they indeed. (Sarcasm intended)
@@miker9082 No doubt you are right. One day science will uncover the reason why. Probably a climate change thing.
In the meantime I suggest watching Mentour's "How YOU can land a passenger aircraft! 12 steps" here on UA-cam.
@@miker9082 Brilliant, you made my day 🤣
no wonder with all the mandates... condolences to his family
Poison shots..
No attempt to revive him, no CPR/defib, no rush to have paramedics reach the plane. Wow.
Believe me, it’s much faster just to keep taxing to the gate. The paramedics are going to take too much time to get out to them on the runway.
@@JimmysSpeedShop nonsense.
@@MattyEngland 🤷🏻♂️
@@MattyEngland ... firefighters are at the airport standing by, but not paramedics (ambulance). Flight attendants are trained to do CPR and will make an announcement requesting help from any doctors or EMT on board. To stop on the runway, would waste more valuable time waiting for a paramedic. If you get to a gate, there is a greater chance there's a doctor or EMT in the airport that could assist.
Sad to hear the Capt Passed,Prayers for his Family,Great job Team
Good job by the controller. A very unusual situation (effectively a surprise arrival) in a place with dense traffic.
The upside of being at O’Hare is the very long runways for landing a fully fuelled small aircraft.
I would have requested portable stairs and paramedics meet on 28C to save time...sad loss, I know he'll be missed...
It sounds like they didn't make any efforts to safe him, he was left in his seat for over 15 minutes. Of course he is dead. He would have had brain damage after about 4 minutes.
Exactly. Wasting all that time for a gate when they offered to have the medics meet them ASAP. And clearly he was not removed from his seat to start CPR. Don't flight attendants know CPR? Someone on that plane did. Everyone may have remained calm, but that's not how you handle a cardiac arrest.
@@Ch-yz4yt 1- There is no room on the flight deck of an E175LP to lay someone out for CPR. 2- The door to the flight deck would have been locked, so even if someone knew CPR, they wouldn't have been able to get in. 3- The pilot would have been too busy handling the jobs of both seats, communications, and a fuel dump while lining up an approach to just get up out of his seat and open the door.
Without all of the dangers involved with all of the other simultaneous aircraft operations, it would take paramedics nearly as long to drive out to the aircraft, make entry, and start rescue efforts; all while sitting on an active taxiway with cross traffic on the runways as it would to go to a gate.
The more complex you make an operation, the greater chance of failure and danger to everyone, including ground crews, other flights in progress and the passengers on the plane. This pilot had to make very serious and gut wrenching decisions. literally on the fly. Belittling him and anyone else involved with the 20/20 vision of hindsight is disrespectful to the man who lost his life that day.
@@user-vu5zx2us1g Moving a person for more room happens all the time. The door could have been unlocked. It is an emergency situation. There are any number of folks on board a plane that either have medical training or at least know how to do quality CPR.
Furthermore, no one is assumed dead. There isn't a service in the world that allows you to look at someone, without significant signs IE trauma, rigor, lividity, and call death. There is no way the co pilot, even if he were a doctor, would be able to look at him after a heart attack and say he was dead with no chance.
While I will agree that with a plane full of people you have to take control and land the plane, that airlines don't have policies and procedures in place for this kind of scenario without "oh well he's dead" seems short sighted at best.
And this is coming from a medic of 20 years. So yes, I've done a lot of CPR in some spaces you wouldn't believe.
@@user-vu5zx2us1g So if something happens to both of them there is no way to access the cockpit? Everyone just dies then. That's a sound plan.
In other words, the pilot in training died, the check pilot, despite having a code brown moment, took charge and when a deadheading pilot arrived, had the death confirmed.
At that point, no need to hurry for medical, as no medical can fix dead.
I've done a Heimlich on my teen at the time daughter, while considering a surgical airway, which is contraindicated at that age, when her airway finally cleared. I've performed CPR on my wife of over 41 years, to no avail, she was down too long and what caused it wasn't going away.
You do what you have to do, what you've trained to do. Doesn't erase an emotional burden, but it does delay it while you take care of what has to be taken care of and that's one of the hardest lessons to teach others.
I've had commanders question if I was a human or robot, I'm human, but I do what's needed at that moment, later, I'll mourn or otherwise emotionally respond.
Later, in war, well, that came in handy.
Now, excuse me while I clear your net. It's coming up on a year after my wife died, so I'm going to get a bit drunk.
Then, tomorrow morning, figure out a grocery delivery billing issue that's tangled to hell and gone...
To err is human, to really foul up requires a computer.
My condolences for your irretrievable loss.