LGR 486 Update! Installing a Sound Blaster Pro 2.0

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  • Опубліковано 24 лип 2016
  • Unboxing a Creative Labs SB Pro 2.0 ISA sound card from 1992! Then installing it in the Woodgrain 486 DOS PC to see what it can do.
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    ● Music used in order of appearance:
    "Middle of Nowhere 1"
    www.epidemicsound.com
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  • @gilkomfg
    @gilkomfg 8 років тому +502

    Seeing Sound Cards with freaking ram slots brings a tear.

    • @Mini-z1994
      @Mini-z1994 8 років тому +16

      i do have a awe 32 fully working in a pc from 1997 c:

    • @TheBrokenLife
      @TheBrokenLife 8 років тому +44

      It brought a tear to my eye when I had to pay for mine back in the '90s... With ram it was something like $400.

    • @nelizmastr
      @nelizmastr 8 років тому +8

      They needed the extra RAM sometimes. My AWE64 has 512K onboard, which is okay, but when sample sized grow, dat RAM is gonna get eaten.

    • @TheBrokenLife
      @TheBrokenLife 8 років тому

      nelizmastr
      "Need" is a strong word. You just couldn't load as many .WAV tables so you had fewer weird sounding synthesized samples to play. Really, that entire feature set was basically just a little used toy for gamers. Maybe people who actually made midi music go something out of it?

    • @m9078jk3
      @m9078jk3 7 років тому +3

      That's why you should upgrade to the AWE 64 Gold card

  • @paulnash9851
    @paulnash9851 8 років тому +153

    I know this is off topic, but I just wanted to say, Clint, you have the nicest, most positive, helpful and friendly fan base here in the comments for each video. You should be proud. Well done too LGR fans, IT IS SOOOO REFRESHING + NICE.....

    • @LGR
      @LGR  8 років тому +42

      They're all pretty great :)

    • @ClonesDream
      @ClonesDream 8 років тому +3

      Lazy Game Reviews You're pretty great ;)

    • @ronch550
      @ronch550 6 років тому +3

      paul nash nostalgia brings people together like nothing else.

    • @corneliusantonius3108
      @corneliusantonius3108 4 роки тому +1

      @@LGR There is a Program by a russian that works for all Creative sundblaster cards, I used it, it made a soundblaster sb0060 or something work under windows 7, because windows 7 kept messing up between the mouse driver and the sound driver wich made moving the mouse making a crackling noise via the speakers. Before that I had it working under Vista with the same little programm because a surge from an Amplifier blew up the sound on the motherboard.

  • @yorkshireyank9885
    @yorkshireyank9885 8 років тому +206

    God, I could watch Clint mess around with old PCs all day and bask in my second hand nostalgia. Can I move in buddy? We'd listen to diskette drives grind away over dinner, drape ourselves in wood grain, and frolic to the music of MIDI.

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife 8 років тому +74

    My first sound card was a Sound Blaster Pro 2.0. Fun times. :-)

    • @pc-sound-legacy
      @pc-sound-legacy 5 років тому +4

      Mine was, too... I tossed it into garbage due to its limitation to 22khz when mp3 comes up and replaced it with a soundblaster 128 PCI. (OPL emulation of that card was an offense to the ears) Big mistake if you see how rare and expensive the pro is today. For Adlib compatiblity, there are many sb clones with dedicated ymf 262 OPL chips out there, so therefore no need for the original.

    • @maroscz
      @maroscz 3 роки тому

      I had this exact bundle with Lemmings, Indianapolis and an encyclopedia on CD ROM. Bought in Czechoslovakia in 1992. Less than 3 years after the fall of comunism and the hardware embargo and just prior to splitting the country into Czech Republic and Slovakia.

  • @gammaraider
    @gammaraider 3 роки тому +7

    What a wonderful blast from the past. I has this exact card. I was 13, saved up the money myself, and installed it in the family's 286. All these demo programs and sounds are still etched into my memory.

    • @KLiNoTweet
      @KLiNoTweet Рік тому

      I guess we all have told that Dr. xyz of our problems. Honestly, ChatGPD is not really that much better 🙂

  • @gevelegian
    @gevelegian 7 років тому +55

    16:21 turned into Druaga1 for a second there.

    • @raspoutine7241
      @raspoutine7241 4 роки тому +1

      today were gonna install a 512gb ssd into my *apple II*

  • @oozekip
    @oozekip 8 років тому +6

    Watching these videos on older PCs and hardware makes me really greatful that I'm using a computer that just works without needing to worry about if my PCs sound is compatible with everything else or any of that. Old PCs are cool and all, but man has standardization and simplification done wonders for computers in the past 20 years,

  • @ronch550
    @ronch550 6 років тому +2

    Looking back at all the sound cards I've had (all of them from Creative) makes me appreciate my Realtek ALC889 integrated audio. It's crazy how a tiny chip like that (with the help of the main CPU) is pretty capable, probably sounding better than a Sound Blaster Live!, and costing practically $0. Ok, maybe $2 according to a Tom's Hardware article years ago. I have an X-Fi Titanium but I just tucked it away and contented myself with the ALC889.
    Btw, I had that exact Sound Blaster back in 1993-97. Good times. Having a sound card back then was really awesome.

  • @FinalBaton
    @FinalBaton 7 років тому +36

    The little hand gesture at 9:41 is killing me XD

  • @Pearcey80
    @Pearcey80 8 років тому +19

    I don't even know anything about old computers but this video is comfy as hell. Great content as ever Clint.

  • @ironcito1101
    @ironcito1101 7 років тому +9

    OMG, the memories! I had forgotten about much of this stuff. That talking parrot, that Dr. Sbaitso thing, I would've never remembered them if I hadn't seen them again. I think I had this exact same card, because I also got Lemmings and Indy 500 with it. This took me way back to my early teens.

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 7 років тому

      Same here. Try the CMF player.. "Creative Labs presents.. a new PC sound standard." Nice. Surprised there were no Voyetra sequencer disks.

  • @tjeerdnet
    @tjeerdnet 8 років тому +2

    Keep up the good work. Watching your videos take me back to the "good old times" and it is good to see that there are many people out there who share the same interest and nostalgic feelings (according to the reactions). Great. Just great.

  • @MikkoB89
    @MikkoB89 8 років тому +8

    I love it how components are pretty much compared to how well it runs Duke 3D. "Yeah, but can it run Duke?"

  • @_chipchip
    @_chipchip 8 років тому +17

    Ahhh dude that sounds heaps better. All of a sudden I'm 11 years old again.

  • @symol30872
    @symol30872 8 років тому +1

    Been watching your content for a while and want to say a huge thank you for putting your time and effort into making these amazing videos. I grew up on the same games as you did and it's great to see people keeping vintage DOS gaming alive these days. Currently in the process of building a few machines (one for DOS/98 and one for XP era) and your channel gives me a lot of inspiration. Keep up the great work!

  • @mik310s
    @mik310s 5 років тому +1

    I have binge watched this channel all day it brings back so many fond memories, many thanks for creating all this awesomeness :D

  • @EzraKnickelbine
    @EzraKnickelbine 8 років тому +5

    You know, I like your videos, but this video--after a stressful weekend and a hectic, anxiety-filled day--is the most relaxing thing I think you've ever done. DOS sound card talk paired with the smoothest of jazzes? So good. Thank you.

  • @zoolooau
    @zoolooau 8 років тому +4

    Oh that sound is lovely

  • @AdamThomasMusic
    @AdamThomasMusic 8 років тому

    I'm so glad you're doing more videos on the woodgrain 486, I couldn't get enough of the first video

  • @spartansfan1026
    @spartansfan1026 8 років тому +2

    Man, I love your videos. No one else is making content that has the same balance of information and fun that you're able to!

    • @LGR
      @LGR  8 років тому +2

      Thank you!

  • @Ropetupa
    @Ropetupa 8 років тому +146

    My 10 month old son likes this video. I dont usually see him this focused... :)

    • @Ropetupa
      @Ropetupa 8 років тому +11

      Heck, I will probably buy him one...

    • @milestailsprower3282
      @milestailsprower3282 7 років тому +26

      Get him an 486 PC. That was legendary for the time.

    • @Ropetupa
      @Ropetupa 7 років тому +14

      meh... I started with C64. So it can't be THAT hard for my son. :)

    • @Ropetupa
      @Ropetupa 6 років тому +14

      One year later he still likes some LGR.

    • @Ropetupa
      @Ropetupa 6 років тому +3

      Jack Long
      Ayup.

  • @icelord5243
    @icelord5243 6 років тому +14

    I envy this guy so much.
    Having so much joy with so simple things.
    Keep it going!

  • @getman1991
    @getman1991 8 років тому

    I just really enjoy watching you play old DOS and PC games. I'm just filled with nostalgia when ever I watch your channel.

  • @jws50
    @jws50 8 років тому

    Thank you for making this Video LGR!! The Sound Blaster music/sounds brought back some heavy nostalgia for me!! As a kid back then in my Packard bell days we always used Sound Blaster in are PC's. I'm looking get a old PC like that again to play all my DOS games again but i don't know where to start looking.

  • @elementalgaming876
    @elementalgaming876 7 років тому +25

    holy shit, theme song sounds so much different and better on sound blaster pro

    • @LGR
      @LGR  7 років тому +5

      Glad it's not just me then :)

    • @tony359
      @tony359 7 років тому

      Thanks, that brings back memories! If I remember correctly the quality of "midi" sound depends on the sound banks loaded. Cannot remember where you would load them but with the 32 if you had more memory you should have been able to load the same files used by the Pro - or potentially better quality ones! Anyway, that so cool!!!

    • @limey3654
      @limey3654 7 років тому

      Lazy Game Reviews or sounds amazing on the new card

    • @excrono
      @excrono 7 років тому +1

      The guitar sample used by the AWE32 made it sound like a very early SNES game, definitely not the way it should be.

  • @sethbramwell
    @sethbramwell 8 років тому +4

    Good lord, I remember that parrot and Dr. Sbaitso. I used to play with those and amuse myself greatly.

  • @McLambo
    @McLambo 8 років тому +1

    Wow! those test sounds instantly brought back some long lost memories! I Love it!

  • @lassihietala8465
    @lassihietala8465 7 років тому

    This Woodgrain 486 saga has been totally awesome! Never seen better retro PC gaming content anywhere! I'm waiting for my new (modern) PC build to arrive and these videos have been a great way to pass time while remembering my childhood gaming sessions on my family's brand new 486/66.

  • @kosmosyche
    @kosmosyche 8 років тому +51

    I had SB AWE32 back in the day and I distinctly remember that you had to use the string "AWEUTIL /S" (from AWE32 drivers) to enable OPL3 FM sound capability. Also you had to choose Sound Blaster 16/SB PRO/SB/Adlib in the game options/setup to hear FM music, otherwise it would play wavetable music like in your video (which, to be fair, was the main point of AWE32 in the first place).
    There were also about a million versions of AWE32 cards with differrent OPL3/OPL3 compatible chips, some of them sounded exactly like SB16 (cause they used authentic Yamaha chips), but some versions, especially later "PnP" series sounded very different (and crappy) for FM synthesis.
    Also the util AWEUTIL didn't work with all games, so there could be some issues there. Overall, I think AWE32 was a great soundcard for its time, very good and capable, but it was a bit of a mess from engineering and software standpoint (since CREATIVE tried to push their own proprietary standard of MIDI playback interface and their own EMU chip and it introduced some compatibility difficulties).
    Also I recommend you get a working Roland Sound Canvas (SC-55 or more advanced SC-88) soundcard since that's the cards Bobby Prince used to compose MIDI music for Duke 3D and Doom (and lots of 1993-1995 games use MIDI music composed on Roland Sound Canvas, it was almost a standard MIDI soundcard for wavetable music). So it will sound just as it was meant to sound by the composer. I had one (SCC-1 actually) in 1995-2001, and it was awesome, but then was stupid enough to sell it (cause I bought SB Audigy). And of course Roland MT-32/LAPC for earlier games (1989-1993) would also be very cool. :-)

    • @kooijbas
      @kooijbas 6 років тому +5

      kosmosyche What he said. Plus you could load custom soundbanks in the AWE32 cards which would sound a lot better. It had 4mb rom to load the sounds in soundfont format.
      I had a Soundblaster 16 in the day and bought a Korg daughter board for GM sounds. Sounded pretty awesome for the day. I think I still have them lying around somewhere.

    • @Blustride
      @Blustride 5 років тому +3

      @@StrangerHappened Nowadays for games, all a sound card gets you over onboard audio is a lower noise floor and potentially some postprocessing effects, since game sound effects and music are just digital files that the CPU asks to be played. A sound card might also support higher bit depth and sampling rate files (24-bit and 96 or 192 kHz), but that's mostly for music. A sound card is basically just a DAC now.

    • @animalyze7120
      @animalyze7120 5 років тому

      Yeah I had gotten the Awe32 when it was being hyped as the best new thing, 1 week later my SB Pro was back in the system. Awe64 was same deal. Gravis Ultra sound and SB 16/Pro were the goto cards, Rolands too but they always tended to cost twice as much.

    • @animalyze7120
      @animalyze7120 5 років тому +1

      @@Blustride You obviously only use onboard or that comment would have never happened ;) Sorry...drop a good quality Soundcard in there and you'll never go back to onboard.

    • @Blustride
      @Blustride 5 років тому +2

      @@animalyze7120 ​ You're right, I use the digital output on my onboard audio to go to an old receiver, which power headphones and the speakers I'll put on my desk. I have no reason to use a sound card.
      With that out of the way, what does a sound card do which I didn't address and makes them worth buying over onboard audio, or even an external DAC and Amp with better isolation?

  • @Zacht1980
    @Zacht1980 8 років тому +3

    Dr. Sbaitso reminds me of Racter for my Amiga. Loved hearing that thing swear and use general "Potty Talk".

  • @JamesDee
    @JamesDee 8 років тому +1

    Keep these build videos coming. I love this kind of content.

  • @erniesdeck7550
    @erniesdeck7550 8 років тому

    another great LGR video!! i was geeking out the whole time and loved it.

  • @robotwo
    @robotwo 8 років тому +22

    Was expecting to hear some Tyrian, that sounded amazing on the OPL3 Soundblasters :D

    • @Ezyasnos
      @Ezyasnos 8 років тому

      Sound blaster pro is OPL2 (the pro 2 iirc was 2x OPL2 and should sound better than a SB16)

    • @zummone
      @zummone 8 років тому +7

      SB Pro was OPL2 x2 (the chips stick out like a sore thumb), SB Pro 2 (as seen in this video) has the YMF-262 aka OPL3.
      As far as sound goes Dual OPL2 can't compete with an OPL3, mainly because the two chips were mainly used for stereo panning and I think you didn't even have any voice advantage. OPL3 is natively stereo (when running in OPL3 mode) and has got more than twice the voices of an OPL2 in 2OP mode. Not to mention the exclusive 4OP mode.

    • @VEC7ORlt
      @VEC7ORlt 7 років тому

      One must fall tribute!

  • @Skykingsound
    @Skykingsound 8 років тому +4

    You've earned a subscriber. Awesome video. Love your humor.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  8 років тому +2

      Thank you!

  • @HOUSEWARMING
    @HOUSEWARMING 8 років тому +1

    Thanks for taking us on this very personal nostalgia trip, loved playing Jill back in 1994!

  • @duhsbo
    @duhsbo 4 роки тому

    You put so much love in your video that it shows.

  • @ArtMaddox
    @ArtMaddox 8 років тому +8

    I recently cracked open a sealed sound blaster 16 I got for $5 and put it in a Packard bell with a Pentium II. It was glorious.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  8 років тому +3

      Nice!

    • @AboveEmAllProduction
      @AboveEmAllProduction 8 років тому

      you did better than this noob to get sb16 it are much better card than the older sbpro stuff!

    • @Alex-oz9eh
      @Alex-oz9eh 8 років тому

      +AboveEmAllProduction rip

    • @ozguroyus
      @ozguroyus 4 роки тому

      @@AboveEmAllProduction People especially on VOGONS claim that SBPro2 is the real thing and SB16 is plagued with problems such as noisy output and MIDI note hanging etc

  • @LucasCunhaRocha
    @LucasCunhaRocha 8 років тому +5

    I miss the old days when I used to get migraines every time I stared at a CRT for more than 2 hours.

  • @bradrose2605
    @bradrose2605 8 років тому +1

    I watched your video on the build for that computer. Watching this one has reinspired me to build another computer out of junk, it's amazing what people will throw on the side of the road. I'm hoping to build a computer with parts around 1998. Thanks for the reinspiration!

  • @GreatLokeOfMoonRoad
    @GreatLokeOfMoonRoad 8 років тому

    Man, just awesome. Makes me remember the good old days when I bought a Sound Blaster 16 for my trusty old 286. Later moved it to a IBM Aptiva 486 DX2 66 and magic happened together with a dualspeed CD-ROM drive. Keep up the good work Clint!

  • @hgbugalou
    @hgbugalou 7 років тому +25

    You should now build the most high spec DOS machine possible using parts that are actually supported under DOS. I think the highest CPU I saw with DOS still around was a Pentium 2 with Voodoo2 graphics.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  7 років тому +22

      In theory, you could install DOS on a totally modern PC! But yeah, I'd love to do one that was the highest-end during the final days of DOS.

    • @gencreeper6476
      @gencreeper6476 7 років тому +2

      I can run dos on an i7 from a USB drive problem is getting it to work with sound and stuff however supposedly my motherboards onboard Intel Ethernet has DOS drivers. You can use USB flash drives in dos if you have a bios with USB compatibility mode and plug them in before boot up. Pretty sure DOS can't use anywhere near the full CPU though. What one would need to do is find one of the fastest single core CPUs (multiple cores is overkill unless you're doing something with Windows since DOS can't use multiple cores) and a motherboard that supports dos compatible hardware. Probably throw in one of the early 3D cards too.
      Actually going to look all this up now. DOS era is a little bit before my time but I do like many of its games especially seeing the early shooters

    • @TheMonkeyFarted
      @TheMonkeyFarted 6 років тому +1

      I would love to see something like that. I took my old windows xp virus machine and installed windows 98! Pentium 4 with 80gb hdd, 512mb of ram. Ah yes, the great feeling of flying! Brother had a game and at full settings it was so butter smooth we couldn't focus! Picked up a 5 1/4" floppy drive for it now. I don't car what people say. It's a kick ass machine! How could you not love it? Now I want to build an even older machine with every video of LGR's. How these vintage computers are so beautiful!

    • @TheTurnipKing
      @TheTurnipKing 6 років тому +1

      As long as it still has the original BIOS hooks. Not all modern UEFI systems do, which will probably eventually be the death knell for DOS.

    • @fredmachine
      @fredmachine 6 років тому +1

      At work we have a control computer that runs DOS and has a 300 MHz AMD K6.

  • @Sudz3
    @Sudz3 7 років тому +3

    My 7th birthday, I spent 140 dollars of my hard earned allowance on a Soundblaster Pro. It was the precursor to getting my panasonic 4X!!!! CD-Rom drive. (of which I paid for half, the other half was my christmas present) I was a pretty damn nerdy kid.

  • @dstarr3
    @dstarr3 8 років тому

    Wow, I remember buying that sound card back in the day and being SO EXCITED to get home and install it and get it working. Blast from the past.

  • @Bunnybunbun1974
    @Bunnybunbun1974 6 років тому

    Love you videos, brings back the past.

  • @SeekerLancer
    @SeekerLancer 7 років тому +4

    Oh god, Dr. Sbaitso. That brings me back.

    • @ovrlxnd
      @ovrlxnd 7 років тому +2

      Too little information, so I make big.

  • @SnareX
    @SnareX 7 років тому +10

    I just came from the original video and it upset me that you didn't use a sound blaster. You have corrected you mistake and I can sleep in peace.

  • @ferdinandoportel
    @ferdinandoportel 4 роки тому

    playing with old computers is like travel in time. back to the past. it´s amusing to see you revive all these child memories

  • @larsmuldjord9907
    @larsmuldjord9907 8 років тому

    What a great video. Your excitement really shines through! Love how you instantly turn around and drive the other way in Indianapolis 500. That's all I ever did in that game. :D To watch the instant replays of the crashes. Then later the world was introduced to Carmageddon and I was in heaven!

  • @batteryman2852
    @batteryman2852 8 років тому +4

    About the soundcard, i discover a neat bug about ISA audio card. if you install 2 sound card with slighly different brand. and make them share irq or ressources, you can do dual OPL, and with some mixing setup to mix 2 audio card with FM synthesizer into one sterio channel, you can get some nice rich and funky sound. I did that on a old pentium board. and routed the two audio card into a mixer

    • @batteryman2852
      @batteryman2852 8 років тому

      Technical speaking, 2 different branded soundcard have slighly different audio style, so mixing them toghether makes one card slighly phaze out some frequencive from the second card or add some.

    • @douggale5962
      @douggale5962 5 років тому

      When software reads from an address, both cards will respond with anywhere from data corruption to damage to the bus transceivers with prolonged abuse. Also, ISA IRQ lines must not be shared, if both cards drive the same IRQ line they will fight each other and it will cause excessive currents in the card's bus drivers. I find it difficult to believe that it didn't freeze the whole machine moment software touched one of the cards.

  • @rtv190
    @rtv190 8 років тому +54

    pls use DR Sbaitso one day for an LGR video

    • @buddsbuddha
      @buddsbuddha 8 років тому +5

      ha ha, that was a classic

    • @Bruno-Guitarist
      @Bruno-Guitarist 8 років тому +6

      agree! remember playing around with that alot. "Say jcgujvgjjdfhhkkbghjhc"! haha

    • @ndrinks5550
      @ndrinks5550 8 років тому +2

      "Parity"

    • @isaacwright2247
      @isaacwright2247 6 років тому +5

      Please make Dr Sbaitso swear! :)

    • @ronch550
      @ronch550 6 років тому

      rtv190 and the SB Pro demo with the flashing colored blobs or something like that.

  • @Loenne555
    @Loenne555 6 років тому

    Oh man, you truly are the brother I never had... With all the passion you put into this, It is like watching myself in 1992, building my very first (386) PC. You are the best.... :)

  •  6 років тому

    Just discovered your channel and OMG. It's so good to watch!!!

  • @seanstar2578
    @seanstar2578 8 років тому +18

    Anybody else went and played Duke Nukem 2 immediately after watching this video? :D

  • @fk9489
    @fk9489 5 років тому +3

    2:51 😂😂😂😂 Juno Email Address !!! Definitely Legit!

  • @ale8oneboy
    @ale8oneboy 8 років тому +2

    This card and Dr. Sbaitso brought back some childhood memories. lol Thanks for sharing.

  • @dave4shmups
    @dave4shmups 8 років тому

    Glad you got all that working! Great games and sound!

  • @ChozoSR388
    @ChozoSR388 8 років тому +10

    I totally agree; DOSBox sound has NOTHING on the real hardware.

  • @theannoyinggeek156
    @theannoyinggeek156 8 років тому +64

    Why would a sound card have a joystick port in it? Was it just in-case you didn't have one already

    • @LGR
      @LGR  8 років тому +195

      Yep, computers didn't come with a 15-pin game port more often than not, and since most people bought a sound card to play games with, it made sense to also include a joystick port. Not only that, but it often doubled as a MIDI interface.

    • @harshbarj
      @harshbarj 8 років тому +20

      Because it was not standard i/o at the time. People likely to need one are also the ones likely to have bought soundcards. It just made sense to combine the two.

    • @theannoyinggeek156
      @theannoyinggeek156 8 років тому +5

      makes sense. thanks!

    • @ThatRatGuy
      @ThatRatGuy 8 років тому +23

      Gameports doubled as a MIDI input, allowing for example to plug in MIDI devices like keyboards.

    • @harshbarj
      @harshbarj 8 років тому +2

      ThatRatGuy I forgot that, good point! Being a gamer and not a musician I did not think of that.

  • @elecblush
    @elecblush 8 років тому

    This is the exact same card as my first soundblaster. Same pack-in software and everything! Nostalgia overload!

  • @deneb_tm
    @deneb_tm 8 років тому +8

    This is way before my time, but I just love how these old computers need an expansion card for EVERYTHING.
    The oldest machine I have is a P166 IBM PC 330 with 80MB RAM, an onboard S3 Trio64V+ graphics chip with 1MB of memory (and pretty noisy VGA output, at least to a 1280x1024 LCD - I wish I had an 800x600 CRT for it), a 1.2GB HDD with WIndows 98 SE, a 10/100Mbit ethernet card and a SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 sound card (I've upgraded it, it originally had 16MB RAM, a 540MB HDD and no expansion cards installed).
    Wish I could figure out how to set up two sound cards in this thing; the SB Live! obviously can't do OPL sound, but I have a Crystal SB Pro compatible card that does... but whenever both are inserted, DOS games just resort to using the latter for everything, including GM, which it obviously doesn't support. Makes sense, I guess, because DOS prefers ISA, though I would still love to be able to have General Midi and Adlib sound capability WITHOUT swapping sound cards every time I want to do either.

    • @bhume7535
      @bhume7535 8 років тому

      cool, my oldest is an old hp pavilion with a 733mhz intel celeron and 64mb of ram :D

    • @deneb_tm
      @deneb_tm 8 років тому

      I've only acquired that old machine recently, though. Took it with me from a scrapyard because old hardware fascinates me.
      The first PC I ever really used was a Pentium 4 (LGA775) one in 2007 up until it "broke" in 2012 (Windows Vista refused to boot because there was just too much shit on the PC - I would've reinstalled Windows XP on it, but my mum threw it away because OOOH PC BROKE I IZ SCARED), first time "using" a computer I have memories - well, a singular memory - of (all I remember was clicking on "My Computer" on the Windows XP start menu) was in 200...4? 5? Maybe even 2003. I'm born in 2000 (two days before Christmas, which I kinda hate), so really, anything before 2005 I consider to be before my time. Although the only laptop I own that I can take with me without the battery dying in ten minutes is a 2003 model Dell Latitude, so go figure.
      (Yes, we're sorta poor.)

    • @deneb_tm
      @deneb_tm 8 років тому

      BOOZE & METAL I'm European too. From Austria, to be exact.
      A Commodore 64 would be cool to have too, if only for the shits and giggles of waiting ten minutes for a game to load from a cassette tape ^^. I'd don't have an appropriate monitor for it, though.

    • @bhume7535
      @bhume7535 8 років тому

      InfinityCraft you really don't need the correct monitor for anything nowadays because you could probably just order a converter on amazon XD

    • @deneb_tm
      @deneb_tm 8 років тому

      Bhume TM I know, but I like things to be _authentic_ when possible.

  • @TheBrokenLife
    @TheBrokenLife 8 років тому +10

    I had a virtually identical experience to LGR with my AWE32. Compatibility was so sketchy that it wasn't really worth it and the music wasn't really any "better" when it worked, it was just "different".
    Really, I never cared to buy another "premium" sound card until whatever model Soundblaster came out with 5.1 and optical out. That was fun, but also not necessary (and also not $400... I think mine was like $70).

    • @GotMoreCakes
      @GotMoreCakes 8 років тому +1

      I bet compatibility was better than my Gravis Ultrasound, constantly dicking around with IRQ settings, and after running SBOS I'd be lucky to have enough RAM left to run anything. I also remember having to phone a hotline to get a driver update, and they sent me a diskette from I think Canada(?),.. to the UK, longest driver update ever :)

    • @TheBrokenLife
      @TheBrokenLife 8 років тому +1

      J Andrews
      The Ultra Sound was a notorious POS as I recall and I was widely advised to only buy a Soundblaster product. That said, my first sound card was a Mediavision Pro Audio Spectrum 16 and worked like a swiss watch (I think I got it for basically free from someone). I even used the SCSI port to run a 1x NEC CD-ROM... I was ballin'... hahaha :)
      It wasn't until I wanted a faster CD ROM that I bought a SB Multimedia 16 (or whatever it was called). It was basically the card that LGR couldn't get to work in this build. Then the AWE for an "upgrade" which really wasn't.

    • @GotMoreCakes
      @GotMoreCakes 8 років тому +1

      Maxwelhse Yeh for compatibility 'POS' just about sums it up, when games supported it natively (which were very few) it was stunning, but man what a hassle, it's not like we didn't already have enough to deal with getting games to run back then :)
      Shame the AWE didn't live up to expectations, that was my dream card when the Gravis was giving me grief. My mate had a Roland LAPC-I and SB16 I think, was always jealous of that, more importantly.. it worked.

    • @TheBrokenLife
      @TheBrokenLife 8 років тому +1

      J Andrews
      Oh, don't get it wrong, we all THOUGHT the AWE32 was the bomb when we all spent loads of money on one and everyone was very proud of theirs too... but deep inside we knew it was a fairly disappointing experience. It's akin to trading in a good used car for a brand new one just because... A new car is cool and all, but the old car wasn't that much worse.
      The ultimate outcome of anyone I knew who bought an AWE32 is that we used them WELL longer than we should have, because it was stupid expensive, and then went directly to onboard RealAudio 97 sound on our next PC builds. :) Very few of us ever bought a "real" sound card ever again. As I said, I bought my Pro Gold (whatever it was called) for the optical out (my PC was also my first DVD player and I had it connected to my home theater and TV), and it was clearly not an entire summer's earnings from mowing grass or whatever like the AWE was for most of us. I've never bought another sound card since then and that was in like 1999.

    • @ghostbirdofprey
      @ghostbirdofprey 8 років тому

      I had an AWE 32.
      I always thought it sounded weird rather than better.

  • @obsoletegeek
    @obsoletegeek 8 років тому

    Nice! I just finished installing it's 8-bit older brother in a 5150. Right in the feels.

  • @SnipE_mS
    @SnipE_mS 2 роки тому +1

    Great build. Inspired me to build my own. I have a GUS as well as an SB Pro 2.0 but I opted for the SB16. Like you, I had a packard bell back in the day (was a 386 though) and it had no sound card or cd rom just 3.5” floppy. My mom bought us the Creative bundle with the SB16, Cd rom and speakers and as a result, that is the most nostalgic setup for me but I may explore using the pro because it is such a great card!

  • @LightyNourT
    @LightyNourT 8 років тому +3

    Help me, I'm in coma. Too many computer videos that I enjoy. D:

  • @SomeGuyInABikini
    @SomeGuyInABikini 8 років тому +6

    Don't forget to run MEMMAKER and load things into Upper memory to ensure you have lots of tasty Conventional memory free :) In all of computing the foremost thing I won't miss is trying to free 580k for Strike Eagle 3. Seriously, who has 580k after CD ROM, mouse AND sound card? Sheesh!

    • @LGR
      @LGR  8 років тому +5

      MEMMAKER was one of the first things I ran on this, hehe. I have 594K conventional free!

    • @SomeGuyInABikini
      @SomeGuyInABikini 8 років тому

      WITCHCRAFT! And using said sorcery if you wouldn't mind going back in time 23 years and teaching him your wizardyways, little 8 year old me would give you all the sour warhead candies as a just reward! :p

  • @Flexin010
    @Flexin010 5 років тому

    Man feels like 1993 again. Great video. Felt like a kid again. Love indy 500 and lemmings.

  • @sweetpeachnectar
    @sweetpeachnectar 8 років тому

    i just love to listen of the sounds of different sound cards. plus i LOVE old pcs. man, that's definitely a video for me! :D
    *instant thumb up incoming* :D

  • @Poki3
    @Poki3 8 років тому +4

    I'm wondering what's that thing in the middle of the sound card that's screwed in?

    • @GadgetUK164
      @GadgetUK164 8 років тому +3

      Looks like an AN7809, 9v regulator.

    • @GadgetUK164
      @GadgetUK164 8 років тому +4

      There is no AC on the ISA or EISA bus. It's a 7809 - if you pause the video at the relevant point you can clearly see its a 7809. That drops the 12v input and provides a clean regulated 9v output.

    • @mtematic1
      @mtematic1 8 років тому +2

      I am sorry but a graetz rectifier in a to 220 package is something that I have never seen before. Plus the chip says that it is a AN7809 so it is a linear 9v regulator.

    • @MarkTheMorose
      @MarkTheMorose 8 років тому

      An answer like that, Gadget, is why people love your videos.

  • @ThatRatGuy
    @ThatRatGuy 8 років тому +3

    OPL3 is the best and yeah, the emulated thing is just... not the same.
    Recently got a laptop with an OPL3 card specifically to play older games and half of them didn't work, but then I remembered about the SET BLASTER settings. Took me a while to figure it out and try different combinations but I got it to work! Duke Nukem 2 sounds so perfect!

  • @Young_Navigator
    @Young_Navigator Рік тому

    Thank you for the tutorial, i brought one today to test out the new coolest sounds.

  • @gabrikark93
    @gabrikark93 6 років тому

    This video makes my cry, im 42 now, and this make me remember tje christmas that my dad give me this card as a present. He past away two years ago, and i remember with love that night. Te first game i run with it was Monkey Island. Amazing video.

  • @NalliKalliOlla
    @NalliKalliOlla 8 років тому +6

    AWE wavetable vs FM music ... ahh, I recall eating popcorn while reading a flame war about that on some other forum ;-). I guess whichever you prefer, really depends on whatever you used to hear back in the day. But I also think that it also depends on the game. Some game developers clearly used some FM based synthesis while composing the music, while some used a GM/wavetable thing, and then just slapped on the missing type music support (but some games had decent music for both). In my opinion, Duke Nukem 3D sound better on the AWE, but that's just an opinion... still, the title music is not the best one on that soundtrack. The guitars always somehow sounded "out of tune" (while the rest of the soundtrack is a bit better overall). But I also think you have your bass&treble setting set up a bit weirdly (way too much bass).

    • @weepingscorpion8739
      @weepingscorpion8739 6 років тому

      Yeah, I had an AWE64 Gold so I'm with you on the music part. Of course, you'd need a proper sound font loaded imho. I used to use either the 3.5 MB or the 4 MB that were bundled with the AWE64 but there was a 2 MB one too, so that should work on an updated AWE32 (not sure how much RAM those cards can have).

  • @DiePixelspieler
    @DiePixelspieler 8 років тому +7

    DUDE! You still need an Gravis Ultra Sound for that!

    • @LGR
      @LGR  8 років тому +13

      Working on it :)

    • @Diggnuts
      @Diggnuts 8 років тому

      This is the right order. I had this card before I had the GUS max

    • @Ezyasnos
      @Ezyasnos 8 років тому

      And a MT32 :)

  • @IntegrityRC
    @IntegrityRC 4 роки тому

    Oh man, that brings me back. This was my first sound card back in the day. Those FM sounds in the install really brought me back. I totally remember that. Makes me feel like playing Hero's quest 3 or something.

  • @robertrhoads6248
    @robertrhoads6248 6 років тому

    We put a sound blaster pro into our Packard Bell 486. I’ll always remember being blown away by the sound demo of Dance of the Sugarplum Fairies super loud through the home stereo system.

  • @questionablecommands9423
    @questionablecommands9423 6 років тому +31

    I'll give you a nickel to install a modern liquid cooler onto your 486.

    • @questionablecommands9423
      @questionablecommands9423 6 років тому +3

      Zip ties and very large rubber bands.

    • @ArthAttack
      @ArthAttack 6 років тому +4

      I find this somewhat unnecessary

    • @questionablecommands9423
      @questionablecommands9423 6 років тому +9

      Apenas um cara normal if it were necessary, the incentive of a nickel wouldn't be needed.

    • @gillianseed4419
      @gillianseed4419 6 років тому

      needs heater core rad, home made waterblock, tubing from home despot and fishtank water pump
      but thats all useless without volt/clock hard mods

    • @Shadethewolfy
      @Shadethewolfy 6 років тому +2

      did... did you just make a Scrapyard Wars reference? XD

  • @bxslilprincess
    @bxslilprincess 8 років тому +3

    U should do asmr vids lol

  • @zorinlynx
    @zorinlynx 7 років тому +1

    This video was like a freaking TIME MACHINE to my youth when I played almost all these games in the 90s on my 486 with the very same sound card.
    I can definitely back up your experience with the AWE32. I upgraded the SB PRO 2 to an SB32 (basically identical to an AWE32, but cost reduced in design) and many games just didn't sound "right" anymore. I ended up running for quite a while with both the SB Pro 2 and SB32 installed so I could play all my games properly. Hell at one point I had the SB32, an SB Pro 2 AND a Gravis Ultrasound MAX installed in the same machine, with jumper cables on the back so I could run all the audio together to my boom box amp. It was truly a chaotic but fun as hell time.
    Thanks for posting this and bringing me back there briefly! :)

  • @Mr_Mooo
    @Mr_Mooo 4 роки тому

    It was all the stuffing around with video cards and sounds cards that I enjoyed my Amiga so much! Everything under the hood, and top quality. Games always worked and sounded great!

  • @decece
    @decece 8 років тому

    I enjoy your vids quite a lot, Clint, but this one brought back many memories!
    My brother and I bought a Sony CDU-33A and a Sound Blaster Pro for our 486DX2 back at the time and we were blown away when we started playing our games and watching videos from CDs.
    Sniff (damn onions)

  • @sucotronic
    @sucotronic 8 років тому

    OMG!! Epic pinball!! I don't know how many time I played it with a friend at his house, but those music and graphics... so great and different from home consoles :P

  • @musicaldude9429
    @musicaldude9429 2 роки тому +1

    this may be a 5 year old video its still great, as a music hardware nerd i love the sound card videos

  • @whister1985
    @whister1985 8 років тому

    This is nostalgia for me. I really want to build myself a 486 computer one day. Just gotta get hold of some components. I don't remember the specs of the computer I had when I was a kid, but I remember having a SoundBlaster AWE32, and a 486 DX4-100 cpu. I really like your videos, and I feel really nostalgic when I watch them.

  • @thepcgeeks3241
    @thepcgeeks3241 8 років тому

    Another great video! Keep up the great work man!

  • @47ex1
    @47ex1 8 років тому

    "...Gotta put a disk 2", that made me chuckle and cry a little at the same time. Oh sweet good ol times

  • @leonardoantonio8756
    @leonardoantonio8756 8 років тому

    Sounds great! good job man!

  • @xanthrax6098
    @xanthrax6098 8 років тому +2

    so glad i found this gem of a channel last year, many many days off spent watching.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  8 років тому

      Glad to have been found!

    • @xanthrax6098
      @xanthrax6098 8 років тому

      +Lazy Game Reviews :D senpai noticed me

    • @xanthrax6098
      @xanthrax6098 8 років тому

      +Lazy Game Reviews btw seeing that gateway monitor brings me back to my childhood. so many hours spent playing the original sims games on it and watching good old flash animations lmao

  • @FireFlux73
    @FireFlux73 8 років тому

    This was an amazing video. Brings back good memories from the past. Someone brought a old computer at work fro recycling. An old MMX Pentium, but wasn't working. Too bad.

  • @Diablokiller999
    @Diablokiller999 8 років тому +1

    OH MY GOD, MANUALGASM!
    I love those old manuals, back in the old days you really got some value for your money :)

  • @BlackKnight_999
    @BlackKnight_999 6 років тому +1

    This is really bringing back memory, I still remember playing Warcraft 1 multiplayer by connecting a parallel cable (old school printer cable) to another PC and play head to head multiplayer. I think it was on a 386DX or 486.

  • @orinokonx01
    @orinokonx01 8 років тому

    Damnit! I'm supposed to be cleaning the house for inspection and here I am instead watching your epic videos again! All I want to do now is pull out a 486 and play some DN2! That music, and your excitement for said music, is infectious! :)

  • @JovinRepairs
    @JovinRepairs Рік тому

    Just picked up a CT1600 for one of my old machines. I had this card in my 486 when I was a kid. Had been trying to get one for a couple of years and happened across one that wasn't asking for a house payment to buy it. Was great to fire up my old DOS games with that card again.

  • @Veeb0rg
    @Veeb0rg 7 років тому

    This build really brought back some memories. Very jealous of your storage unit, I got rid of all my old vintage stuff years ago and regret it now.

  • @Narxes081206
    @Narxes081206 Рік тому

    For me growing up, it was the Sound Blaster 16. That was my first sound card in my 486 growing up. It was amazing going from a PC speaker to the SB16!

  • @claudioandressalinas8770
    @claudioandressalinas8770 8 років тому

    This is awesome! Great video Clint! :)

  • @dinkyvision
    @dinkyvision 2 роки тому

    Such strong flashbacks from this. Wow. I vividly remember getting that card for our IBM PS/2.

  • @Tillchan
    @Tillchan 8 років тому

    I totally forgot about it, but this video brought back so many memories about that freaking Soundblaster Parrot :)))) Thanks, LGR

  • @mslita09
    @mslita09 8 років тому

    So much nostalgia, thank you so much for this :)

  • @cyrillobaggins8789
    @cyrillobaggins8789 8 років тому

    the nostalgia is real with this one, I didn't really remember buying the card but with the indiana 500 and lemmings floppy the memories came back.

  • @dmac7128
    @dmac7128 7 років тому

    Great video. Brings back memories. I had a 486 with a Sound Blaster 16 with the Waveblaster daughter card. This perhaps had the best sound of all of them IMHO. The OPL3 in 4 operator mode in conjunction with the wavetable based Waveblaster gave it a rich sound palette. Plus the Waveblaster worked with many games that supported the MT-32 and General MIDI standards.