Alright! I hear y’all! I’ll be back to the enthousiastic and energetic shouting when I film the next bunch of videos! As long time viewers might have noticed, I do listen to ideas, and also so not shy away from trying new things.
I love your energy and have watched for years because of you!!! Be yourself my man! I know the haters are loud and those that appreciate the content you make tend to be quiet, but be yourself otherwise burnout will be right around the corner… and we need you in the community 🙌
Brother, stay spontaneous, loyal to yourself and your energy; only then will you remain genuine and authentic. Some will leave, making room for others ;) We love u
@@Whiteseastudio An alternative: Let your voiceover compressor clamp down on you harder. This way you can stay enthusiastic loud(I'm exactly the same way...), AND please people. I guess louder commenting triggers anxiety(trauma) in a lot of people.
I think the problem is he wants to keep the channel going but it isn’t financially viable at the moment hence he’s started taking sponsors. The other part of that is he’s more sensitive to outside noise because he thinks if he addresses all the naysayers then he’ll be able to grow it financially. However, all that will happen is he will end up diluting what made him successful to begin with.
I mean, now that you say yes, you were indeed shouting a little bit, but now I feel like you're pulling your characteristic enthusiasm back! We'll always prefer you to be the way you want to be, that's why we watch your channel! Also, tysm for your big support for the community, I've learned quite a lot with you
I like your amped up personality. You get loud when you feel something is important, and it's both relatable and entertaining. Love your channel regardless, man!
I do like the all-in-one approach, but to me, spending $199 to replace a process I'm already able to do with the plugins that I have is just not worth it to me. Positive takeaways for me are: - FX Ducking, which works wonders and allows you to crank up delays and reverbs; more effects plugins should feature this. - Pre-selected drag points on the EQ curve controls; tailored to quickly dial in/back harshness, air, body etc. - No shouting during the review process ;)
Hey man! I hope you feel better soon. And your able not giving a damn about those people whom think they can dictate how you‘re running your stuff only cause you made one little mistake. Scream, yell, swear, fart or whatever you feel like. It‘s about entertainment and not people pleasing. You are a good person and youre doing a great job!
As vocals are out of the tune, most of the time. Its not advised to use vocals as a source material for the key finder. You run the instrumental through the keyfinder and whatever the key it gives will be accurate majority of the time. Then you tune the vocals to that X-Minor / Y-Major
There's a saying "don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" You're killing it, you deserve it, you've worked hard to be where you are. Be yourself. If you want to shout, you're allowed to shout! :D
I love this thing. Just got my first Apollo and this comes out at the same time. It’s the new GEN two. Had to get them both and it’s my new default tracking FX plug-in so I don’t have to waste resources running SSL channel strips and serial compressors just to track vocals
uad has been my favorite company for effects like compressors and reverbs since we've been able to use their stuff without the previous hardware requirement
Man. Don't listen to those people. That's why I watch your videos. Your excitement and how real looks. I can see you are trying to keep it down. I love those reactions of you. Keep getting loud and crazy!
For shift the mixing/live mode probably has to do with the timing of the doubles. Mixing probably allows negative delays at the cost of plugin latency.
I have several of these vocal combo plugs and this one is by far the best. I don’t use the auto tune or the de-esser, but the rest is solid gold. I also was not using the format control but as I saw you tweak it briefly along with its mix knob that looks extremely useful. I don’t use this exclusively on a vocal but it does most of the heavy lifting. Also I tend to use EQ before and after compression: out with the bad, compress, then in with the good basically.
Everything points to E minor as far as the key goes. And of course, you can always turn off the tuning module =] I’m of the camp that goes corrective first, then dynamics, then creative, which includes “enhancement”. So for vocals, address things like sibilance or mud or unwanted resonances first. Then go for dynamics. Then additional processing that will enhance the character of the vocal and this could include boosts to make it stand out in the mix.
@@Wizardofvoz2 He also said that this is just the vocal and there are no other instruments at the moment. Furthermore, it could be that the verses are in E minor, but perhaps the chorus could be in G (a classic move in plenty of songs). Until other parts come into play, I am very sure this is supposed to be E minor. Also, the key confusion that does arise with Sweet Home Alabama is whether it’s G major or D Mixolydian. But yes, the melody does not necessarily have to contain the root or be “in the key”. But again, that only becomes apparent when you have other instruments at play. Context is everything. And yes, if other parts would come into play, it could be something else. In fact, the underlining chord could be a G6.
Since the plugin suggested D/Bm as well, there might be parts in the melody where she sings a C# instead of a C. If songs don't stick to one major or minor scale it should be safer to use the chromatic scale (or make up a custom scale if you know what accidentals are being used). I'm certainly not a fan of automatic tuning, but in the end it's a stylistic choice. By now people are so used to hearing over-tuned vocals that this is the sound that's kinda expected by many people.
My vocal plugin chain is Melodyne for fixing pitch if needed, stock EQ to dump some of the rumbly low end and maybe cut some frequencies I don't like, 1176 UA Plugin set to limit just the really hot notes, LA-2A UA Plugin set to taste, and then if I need it I might use Soothe 2 to "smooth" things out. I've been experimenting with putting Soothe 2 into different spots in the plugin chain. I'd say my chain is a lot more complicated than this plugin, but to my ears it sounds a lot better. I really like the UA plugins a lot.
As a one-stop-shop it’s (almost) perfect. This, but with Sonible style presets and smartEQ/Compressor would be fantastic to just give homerecording singers who can’t work plugins. Also, why is that key finder not just built in?
this needs to be on a DSP version asap...i tried this on my 12k i9 desktop and its just not sustainable after about 3 instances. Its an incredible CPU hog.
lol i noticed the high energy lately too but it doesn’t bug me. honestly it’s probably better for the algorithm. there’s a reason mr beast is at the top of his lungs in his intros 😆
Hey friend, sort off topic comment here but I have a request for you - is there anyway you could review the Make Believe Studios/Metric Halo Sontec plugin? I personally find it very good. I would bet you may have access to a Sontec at friends studio as well...perhaps. Not that a shootout is needed, I'd just love to hear your thoughts as I feel like it sounds extremely good
Gmaj is Em, just sayin'. Well, the notes are the same but obviously it's a different scale because they both start with different notes. I guess that's why it kept bouncing between Em and Gmaj. I haven't seen the shouty video but keep doing what you're doing and donpt change for anybody
Please shout as much as you want. An take money from company's without doubt. We love you because you don't afraid of company's and don't be afraid of your own audience
The only criticism I have is that you always seem to use fantastic mixes to test your plugins on! I feel like it would be a lot more interesting if you used not so well mixed tracks yet.
Alright! I hear y’all! I’ll be back to the enthousiastic and energetic shouting when I film the next bunch of videos!
As long time viewers might have noticed, I do listen to ideas, and also so not shy away from trying new things.
You should have written your comment in ALL CAPS!!!
Yes. Your more exuberant approach is something I've grown to actually like. And ... you keep me awake. 🙂💙💙💙
This version is making me sleepy
I love your energy and have watched for years because of you!!!
Be yourself my man! I know the haters are loud and those that appreciate the content you make tend to be quiet, but be yourself otherwise burnout will be right around the corner… and we need you in the community 🙌
And don't forget to toss gear around like you did with the Softube Fader. That was awesome.
Brother, stay spontaneous, loyal to yourself and your energy; only then will you remain genuine and authentic. Some will leave, making room for others ;) We love u
100% agree on your comment. Otherwise you'll lose yourself and all the consequences that will bring....
+1 don’t worry about the negative comments dude
Totally agree!
I agree, it was good to at least have tried it...
@@Whiteseastudio An alternative: Let your voiceover compressor clamp down on you harder. This way you can stay enthusiastic loud(I'm exactly the same way...), AND please people. I guess louder commenting triggers anxiety(trauma) in a lot of people.
I honestly didn't feel like you were yelling at all? Your videos are always good man :)
real
Bro I have a complaint. You have to stop taking all criticism. What makes you you is your screaming. Same goes for the temu thing. It is your channel
Exactly 💯
I think the problem is he wants to keep the channel going but it isn’t financially viable at the moment hence he’s started taking sponsors. The other part of that is he’s more sensitive to outside noise because he thinks if he addresses all the naysayers then he’ll be able to grow it financially. However, all that will happen is he will end up diluting what made him successful to begin with.
Yeah, I'm overcompensating a bit at the moment...
Your shouts are your signature, man!
That's why I follow you bro!
I never thought you were yelling - I always enjoy your energy and enthusiasm - don't let the haters change who you are!!!
Shout as much as you like :)
Brilliant insight ... Always love the definitions and explanations... !!!
I mean, now that you say yes, you were indeed shouting a little bit, but now I feel like you're pulling your characteristic enthusiasm back! We'll always prefer you to be the way you want to be, that's why we watch your channel!
Also, tysm for your big support for the community, I've learned quite a lot with you
Should never let people dictate how you should act. They don’t like it they can leave. Be yourself my dude.
Your videos are always good man
Geniet echt van je videos! en tof om je ontwikkeling te zien over de afgelopen jaren, geen beter kanaal te vinden online! lekker doorgaan gozer!
I like your amped up personality. You get loud when you feel something is important, and it's both relatable and entertaining. Love your channel regardless, man!
I do like the all-in-one approach, but to me, spending $199 to replace a process I'm already able to do with the plugins that I have is just not worth it to me.
Positive takeaways for me are:
- FX Ducking, which works wonders and allows you to crank up delays and reverbs; more effects plugins should feature this.
- Pre-selected drag points on the EQ curve controls; tailored to quickly dial in/back harshness, air, body etc.
- No shouting during the review process ;)
Aren't fx ducking could be implemented using automation in a daw?
@@kennethdarlington Yes, also sidechains.
Hey man! I hope you feel better soon. And your able not giving a damn about those people whom think they can dictate how you‘re running your stuff only cause you made one little mistake. Scream, yell, swear, fart or whatever you feel like. It‘s about entertainment and not people pleasing. You are a good person and youre doing a great job!
The comments on this video are inspiring me to stop giving a f#ck again
Agreed! It’s a great plugin for most engineers/producers of all levels. By no means is it the end all but it’s very nice!
I tried it today. It's kinda sick. It's a great starting point for a vocal channel. Very smart, simple, intuitive layout too.
As vocals are out of the tune, most of the time.
Its not advised to use vocals as a source material for the key finder. You run the instrumental through the keyfinder and whatever the key it gives will be accurate majority of the time.
Then you tune the vocals to that X-Minor / Y-Major
Love the positivity and support in this thread!!
I use the 610 Preamp, Manley variable Mu and the Top Line Vocal suite. Results are amazing!!!!😱🔥
Since dynamics are more affected by low frequencies, you can do a hi-pass filter before dynamics and EQ the rest of the frequencies after ;)
It appears you can't with this tool.
@@sparella I was never fond of 1 plugin do it all. The most I use is Fabfilter suite. ;)
There's a saying "don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory"
You're killing it, you deserve it, you've worked hard to be where you are.
Be yourself. If you want to shout, you're allowed to shout! :D
Your enthousiasm is very recognisable, I dont even notice myself, but yea... others seem to notice, indeed 😁
This thing suddenly appeared in my Plugin list and my word, it's a great and unexpected alternative to auto tune and a pre amp
I love this thing. Just got my first Apollo and this comes out at the same time. It’s the new GEN two. Had to get them both and it’s my new default tracking FX plug-in so I don’t have to waste resources running SSL channel strips and serial compressors just to track vocals
Bro, I love your videos. Keep doing what you're doing exactly like you're doing it. I don't mind you shouting logic and knowledge at all.
uad has been my favorite company for effects like compressors and reverbs since we've been able to use their stuff without the previous hardware requirement
Song name: Sandstorm - Darude (featuring Julia)
Man. Don't listen to those people. That's why I watch your videos. Your excitement and how real looks. I can see you are trying to keep it down. I love those reactions of you. Keep getting loud and crazy!
Not using a digital channelstrip except SSL 4K E until Fabfilter finally releases theirs
R they working on one?
Metric Halo channel strip is goated
You have great videos and personality much appreciated.
Love your honesty!
Cool content, and I like when you get animated we can get pumped about what we love to do, Rock on Bra!
For shift the mixing/live mode probably has to do with the timing of the doubles. Mixing probably allows negative delays at the cost of plugin latency.
real and honest as always..respect
Unlike PSP Audioware, e.g. Saturator, the wooden rims and classic look of the plugin discussed above do not bother you this time? What a turn !
I have several of these vocal combo plugs and this one is by far the best. I don’t use the auto tune or the de-esser, but the rest is solid gold. I also was not using the format control but as I saw you tweak it briefly along with its mix knob that looks extremely useful. I don’t use this exclusively on a vocal but it does most of the heavy lifting. Also I tend to use EQ before and after compression: out with the bad, compress, then in with the good basically.
I agree I tried this and bought it IMMEDIATELY.
I have Xvox and The Spirit by Cradle. And this blows those out the water!!
You can get better results from separate plugins IMO. Quite expensive for what it is.......
Waves - Butch Vig Vocals works very good for me, no tuner included though
Everything points to E minor as far as the key goes. And of course, you can always turn off the tuning module =]
I’m of the camp that goes corrective first, then dynamics, then creative, which includes “enhancement”. So for vocals, address things like sibilance or mud or unwanted resonances first. Then go for dynamics. Then additional processing that will enhance the character of the vocal and this could include boosts to make it stand out in the mix.
G
And Sweet Home Alabama is also,in the key of G. Imdid a few shows with Ed King, and HE told me so.
@@Wizardofvoz2 He also said that this is just the vocal and there are no other instruments at the moment. Furthermore, it could be that the verses are in E minor, but perhaps the chorus could be in G (a classic move in plenty of songs). Until other parts come into play, I am very sure this is supposed to be E minor.
Also, the key confusion that does arise with Sweet Home Alabama is whether it’s G major or D Mixolydian. But yes, the melody does not necessarily have to contain the root or be “in the key”. But again, that only becomes apparent when you have other instruments at play. Context is everything. And yes, if other parts would come into play, it could be something else. In fact, the underlining chord could be a G6.
Since the plugin suggested D/Bm as well, there might be parts in the melody where she sings a C# instead of a C. If songs don't stick to one major or minor scale it should be safer to use the chromatic scale (or make up a custom scale if you know what accidentals are being used).
I'm certainly not a fan of automatic tuning, but in the end it's a stylistic choice. By now people are so used to hearing over-tuned vocals that this is the sound that's kinda expected by many people.
My vocal plugin chain is Melodyne for fixing pitch if needed, stock EQ to dump some of the rumbly low end and maybe cut some frequencies I don't like, 1176 UA Plugin set to limit just the really hot notes, LA-2A UA Plugin set to taste, and then if I need it I might use Soothe 2 to "smooth" things out. I've been experimenting with putting Soothe 2 into different spots in the plugin chain. I'd say my chain is a lot more complicated than this plugin, but to my ears it sounds a lot better. I really like the UA plugins a lot.
This is the video that pushed me to get the Xvox suite over this one
As a one-stop-shop it’s (almost) perfect. This, but with Sonible style presets and smartEQ/Compressor would be fantastic to just give homerecording singers who can’t work plugins. Also, why is that key finder not just built in?
We love your videos man, especially the ones where you’re being yourself, that’s why we subscribed in the 1st place. 😊 0:04
Hey, can you make a review of apulSoft splitS? 🙏
Shout more plz! Love your enthusiasm
this is the sort of plugin I would buy but only on black friday sale for like, maybe 12 dollars. but if it was in my DAW I would use it
Your life is cool man
I think there was a way to switch the order of EQ and Dynamics.
looks like there is a eq -> dyn switch above eq dyn settings that would reverse order
RX - ''that thing'' is one my favs !
When I use auto tuners I don’t usually like to lock them to a key because a lot of the time there are notes that don’t fall into the specific scale..
Hey man! Love your content. Just be you. Dont sweat the haters.
How does this compare to the Harrison fastrack?
This could be used live for a small vocal gig I guess
this needs to be on a DSP version asap...i tried this on my 12k i9 desktop and its just not sustainable after about 3 instances. Its an incredible CPU hog.
Yeah, I like when you get excited!! Screw the people who don’t know how to turn their shit down 😑
Key Finder should have the music played through it, so it can tune the voice to the music.
Your videos are always awesome, and tbh I think the louder tone is trademark White Sea because of the enthusiasm.
Your next video could be a side by side comparison of Xvox pro vs Topline.
I had the exact same experience with the Gate/De-ess controls. Which way is up???
Scream until you like it!
lol i noticed the high energy lately too but it doesn’t bug me. honestly it’s probably better for the algorithm. there’s a reason mr beast is at the top of his lungs in his intros 😆
You’re Great! Thank U 🙏
I trust this guy cause he doesn't give a fuck. Shout all you want my man
Hey friend, sort off topic comment here but I have a request for you - is there anyway you could review the Make Believe Studios/Metric Halo Sontec plugin? I personally find it very good. I would bet you may have access to a Sontec at friends studio as well...perhaps. Not that a shootout is needed, I'd just love to hear your thoughts as I feel like it sounds extremely good
Is there a streaming latency?
For the money get the JST Howard benson vocals. Instant mix ready.
I bought this plugin and have been using it for 6 months, very good but too colorful for some styles of music...
Mate, is that top you got on from New Zealand by chance?
I LOVE THE SHOUTING DONT STOP - I love your energy!!
Great Vid, thank you.
Yes, G Major is the parallel key of E minor. One F# is in there. Metalheads love this key.^^
Em is the relative key to G Major not the parallel key. G Major and Gm are parallel keys.
4:09 checking it sounded like Eminor, so Gmajor was right on the money
“Shout, shout, let it all out.” It’s your signature, my friend. Love your work.
can you use this with dsp?
please do a video on the ssl stuff from uad
What is your take on Luna DAW?
Will check it soon
Hey man, would it be alright if I shot you an e-mail for some vocal mixing tips? I’m doing something very peculiar so I’d like some specific advice.
Yelling??? I been here since the oil or snake intro, I still love the way this man give us info
I personally am an eq-to-cut then dynamics then eq-to-boost guy
Yes. G Major and E Minor wouldn't make a difference for this, as both keys use the same notes (just different root notes, which doesn't matter).
Passion!
Gmaj is Em, just sayin'. Well, the notes are the same but obviously it's a different scale because they both start with different notes. I guess that's why it kept bouncing between Em and Gmaj. I haven't seen the shouty video but keep doing what you're doing and donpt change for anybody
What??!! Shout all the fuck u want brother. Thats a good sign of authentication. 👍🏾💪🏾😉
You speak perfectly.
dude just be you. we watch because we like your crazy.
Melodyne tutorial!
This plugin sounds interesting...
SHOUT AWAY MATE!
Do you need uad hardware?
no, you can subscribe uad spark or buy individual plugins
You should shout more!!!! Pleeeease!!!!
Proof you can’t please everyone. I personally LOVE when you get worked up randomly
Its not yelling you are just passionate about the subject! That's a good thing brother.
Please shout as much as you want. An take money from company's without doubt. We love you because you don't afraid of company's and don't be afraid of your own audience
The only criticism I have is that you always seem to use fantastic mixes to test your plugins on! I feel like it would be a lot more interesting if you used not so well mixed tracks yet.
Shout on.
Its windy today so a little less shouting is okay, but just for today okay ?
Please respond to the Phil Speicer comments on the last video!
You did the key finding so wrong , but you said you are more on the tech side
The tuner kinda sucks, I compared it to the Waves Tune Live and the UAD tuner really has a hard time keeping up.
I like the shouting! It shows you are passionate!
Don’t loose your confidence! ❤