I have a copy of Mr Hilditch's books (which are really great reads!). Obviously he thought that the Numbus' were a mistake, but I guess that part of the problem is that they weren't really the bus for what was required in Halifax. They'd be great in a rural environment with reasonably gentle use as a coach, but in an Urban general bus environment, they just weren't designed for the use and abuse that a general urban bus gets, even though they were intended for a semi-rural service.
His Steel Wheels and Rubber Tyres tetralogy is a good read too. To know where GG Hillditch was coming from it's useful to remember he learned his trade as a London and North Eastern Railway premium apprentice at Gorton locomotive works.
I used to love the Guernsey fleet in the 70s. They were always an indicator to a London kid like me that we were definitely on holiday. It was a sad day when they went.
De-regulation in UK ('86) spawned a need for mini buses. MCW Metroriders were a departure from converting vans. And there were a lot of van conversions!
Due to the often excessive exhaust smoke these buses could produce they were often known as cumulonimbi, those menacing clouds that could produce hail and thunder. I often rode on the Western National Bristol SU types and found them capable little buses for their duties. SN/WN had 97 of the bus specification and 36 coaches. The coaches in later life were downgraded to one man operation bus work and fitted with full destination displays and fare collection equipment. These were very comfortable vehicles on rural services.
Love your channel, videos and enthusiasm, and you're great with British place names, but one small nitpick this time: "Mousehole" the place is pronounced sort of "Mouzull" with a soft s, first part rhymes with "trouser" and the "hole" is reduced to "ull" rhymes with "gull"😃 Keep up the great work Jeffrey!
Hello! Thanks for the nice words about my channel! And the correct pronunciation is noted...it's a bit difficult for me, from where I am, to know the correct speaking of all of these towns, neighborhoods, etc. Thanks for watching!
@@JeffreyOrnsteinThis reminds me of the small bus used by London Transport in Sutton. I think it was a Bristol ? A noisy little thing on the route 80 .
Jeffery. As always I am blinded by your dedication to research. I can’t even begin to imagine where you got your love of UK buses? I hope there is someone in Halifax, Goole or Burnley doing similar research on US buses (motor coaches). I hope your hard work & dedication enlightens the world for entirely.
Hello Nigel! Thank you so much for your really nice comment!! I always was fascinated by UK buses - I have a very large collection of books from Ian Allan and many others. The variety is really amazing. I'm really glad you enjoyed what I have been creating, and there's more to come. Thank you so much for watching!!
The Bristol SU / SUL vehicles were produced exclusively for the Tillings group of companies which at that time were nationalised and which had its own vehicle building arm, Bristol Commercial Vehicles. They were fitted with Albion EN 250H engines, David Brown gear boxes, BMC axles with vacuum servo assisted Hydraulic brakes and were bodied exclusively by Eastern Coach works in both service car and coach versions. The main operator was Western / Southern National who used most of the production run with 133 jof the 181 vehicles built. The were used on the lightly used rural routes with the coach version used for E&T work on Exmoor and Dartmoor, being 7ft 6 wide and short they were quite handy. Occasionally the coach version would be used on duplicate Royal Blue services but traffic has to be utterly desperate for that to happen. They were replaced by the Bristol LH which although were usually 8ft wide were also available in a marrow (7ft 6) wide version, again theses were mainly used for r tour work on the narrow West Country roads. When these started to be withdrawn from service they were snapped up by operators in the Channel Islands.
The EN 250 H engines are virtually identical to those used on the railways in the early Diesel multiple units which had several of these engines mounted under the carriage floor Did Albion also supply these engines to the train makers as they were probably better suited to railway use than in buses because of their size.
Interesting. I remember the Booth and Fisher buses and rode on them as a child between Killamarsh and Worksop in the UK. Just a slight correction: the Booth and Fisher bus sown at 6:02 was purchased 2nd hand by the company from Great Yarmouth: they were not run in Great Yarmouth in the Booth and Fisher livery.
I vaguely remember these funny little buses still in service in the early 1970s. Most of the buses in the UK are now made on the Continent of Europe. The British automotive industry has been in general decline for many years. British Leyland turned out to be an industrial disaster and eventually collapsed in the 1980s. There are some interesting videos on the Internet about the decline and fall. Essentially, as the company got worse the government stepped into to subsidise it, but this only intensified the problems. The management was inefficient and shamelessly hierarchical and then the unions kept demanding greater pay rises. It eventually got so crazy that some of the unions were actually taken over by card-carrying Communists! It became like a comedy. Eventually, the workers got sick of the Communists and voted them out, but the damage had already been done. Markets had been lost to better overseas products. Tragic.
Wow! Love these historical bus videos Jeff. Those small, well middle- sized buses were cute, and served their purpose in their time. Some may be preserved in transport museums for posterity. But for others who have no access to a museum we have Jeffrey Ornstein. Thanks for your passion and research. Keep rolling them out, you're doing a great job.
Another excellent presentation. Where I lived in North Manchester in the mid 1960s to early 1980s, our local bus was a single decker, as part of the route included a low bridge, unsuitable for double deckers. Most of our buses were Leyland Panthers or Panther Cubs, but one bus was, I think, a larger version of the Albion Nimbus. By the mid 1960s, this bus was already around a decade old. By around 1967/8, it was taken out of service and all our single deckers were then Panthers. Your picture of the orange and white Greater Manchester Albion Bus shows the destination Holcombe, which is in the northern area of the Metropolitan Borough of Bury, just north of Manchester, near where I live. I note the registration on the vehicle isn't local (the suffix JX is, I believe, a Halifax one, indicating it originally came from that area, which, given info here, including a picture of a Halifax bus with a similar registration, would make sense). Given the livery of the buses shown, these were the usual colours from the early Greater Manchester buses in the1970s until bus deregulation in 1986, when the bus system was disastrously privatised. BTW, Mousehole in Cornwall, is pronounced Mowzul. Such are the vagaries of the English language.
Checking up in a book I have regarding the North Manchester Bus Depot, Boyle Street, Cheetham, Manchester, written by Ron Barton, a bus conductor and driver, 1962 to 2006, he lists the garage fleet as of early 1967, by which time he'd qualified as a driver. The sole Albion bus listed in the fleet was an Albion Aberdonian, a bus I occasionally travelled on, I think the remainder of the single deckers were all Leyland Panther and Panther Cubs. I think it was withdrawn from service at that depot shortly afterwards.
Jeffrey, interesting video as per usual - I don't see anyone making this comment so I'll stick my neck out a bit - there is a picture of a JMT Albion on the video, but I would suggest it is a Viking, not a Nimbus - Guernsey has quite a few Nimbuses (Nimbii?) but Jersey I don't believe so. I also liked the reference to Geoffrey Hilditch and I do have his two ...Looking At... books but would thoroughly recommend his autobiography split into 4 volumes 'Steel Wheels & Rubber Tyres', of which the 2nd part is absolutely brilliant in my opinion ( he also did a really cracking history of Halifax Passenger Transport about 10 - 12 years ago which is well worth seeking out). Keep up the great work and maybe do some American buses - I would love to know more about the MC6 (I think that's what it's called) which operated on the Greyhound Lines.
Hello! Thank you for the positive comment! I checked the photo in creative commons, and it's captioned as an Albion Nimbus, but they may be wrong. I have the Looking at Buses books and they are great...I may not have been that aware of his autobiography, so I may look into trying to find those volumes. As well as the Halifax book. Yes, the MC6 is an interesting looking bus that paved the way for future Greyhound models. Thanks for watching!
As a Guernseyman, born and bred, I went to School, to our Town and to the Cinema as a young lad on a Green Nimbus. They were the perfect size for Guernsey in the 1970s.
Another awesome video of a bus I knew little about! Thanks Jeffery, great selection of quality photos too. Have you been to the UK at all Jeffery? Think you would enjoy the many, many Transport museums we have and the wonderful open days, where you can ride on the buses you talk so eloquently about! Have a good day, cheers from Brunei.
Hello! Glad you liked the video. Was there a long time ago, need to go back and see all of the current goings on, as well as the preserved classic stuff. Thanks for watching!
Interesting stuff, I lived close by a route operated by Booth & Fisher and sometimes caught their buses but I have no recollection of this type. I also spent plenty of time in Great Yarmouth with the same result . I guess I must have been too young to notice them .
I remember these well in the Halifax fleet and don't remember any breaking down on me. I thought they were rather good busses With Halifax area having routes along narrow winding roads and steep hills I guess they ordered more than other companies, being better able to negotiate the tight bends
@@JeffreyOrnstein if you ever find yourself in UK I know a few bus museums that are not well known, not as well known as the London TransportMuseum for example. Let me know.
As soon as you said mid or under floor engine, right then I figured why it didn’t work out. Smaller buses built as whole units never seem to gain much interest. Over here buses built on van cutaway chassis (mostly FORD) . They do well for hotel/airport/rental car shuttle. Many colleges, churches and geezer hotels make good use of them. Very interesting and informative as always Jeffery.
Nice one ! The Nimbus.... oddly enough named after a cloud... The Aberdonian and Viking fared better though, Albion eventually became part of British Leyland.
Albion were taken over by Leyland in '51 and the Nimbus was produced in '55. So, I would imagine there's at least as much Leyland thinking as Albion thinking in the Nimbus. Leyland were to Albion what GM was to Saab (and many other brands). An amorphous blob of a company that wasted most everything it touched. Such a shame.
Greetings from Scotland! Really enjoy your videos. Why don’t you check out the Leyland Tiger Doyen or Alexander M Type coaches. Might make good future videos!
'Albion' is pronounced 'Al -be on' with the 'L' sounded. Also Mousehole is pronounces Mouse -sill! Isnt English weird?! BTW, the picture at timestamp 6:10 looks to have been taken at what is called Tram Sunday at Fleetwood Lancashire, UK.The stretch of road is called Lord Street, I was born about 500 yards away in a small terrace houce in 1956. Until trams returned to the roads in Manchester, Fleetwood was the last remaining place in the UK where trams actually ran on the road for about 30+ years! Although Tram Sunday started out as a show for trams, it expanded to included buses and vintage vehicles and is still held every year in July.
Hello! Thanks for the pronounciations! It's a bit difficult for me to know these intracacies from where I am...but I'm trying, LOL. Thanks for watching and for the memories of Fleetwood!!
Replaced exhaust donut yesterday on My 79 GMC 6000. Easy access underneath. This unit has headers up top & unless seats removed & floor lifted sounds like a complicated task
Albion Nimbus running chassis. It looks like a choice bus to restore to the max. Lifting the passengers a few inches to mount the drive train middle and low means they are extra safe from cars and the center of gravity is low. The body rides nice and high above the ground and the size is optimal and rare. Imagine it upholstered with some pizzaz.
Is the plural Nimbuses or Nimbi? (Sorry 😂) I guess that the Bristol LH, produced from 1967 onwards, was aimed at a similar market. The LHS model was only 26 ft long, and, in all forms, just shy of 2000 were produced
Hello! Good question! Since it has the word bus in it, I just used the plural of buses in Nimbuses. But maybe like you said it's more like the plural of something like cactus. The LH seems interesting! Thanks for watching!
I've driven RJX 250, the ex-Halifax bus which went to Harvey's of Mousehole, and even in preservation it continued to blow head gaskets with monotonous regularity. It was very much a "this side up handle with care" sort of bus, and far too fragile for the rough and tumble of everyday multi-driver stage carriage work.
I'm surprised Albion would develop an engine for this especially after Leyland aquired it. It must have sounded like a tractor with four pots. Maybe five cylinders would have been the go like some Gardners.
@@JeffreyOrnstein Albion products lived on into the 1980s under the Leyland name. I used to catch Leyland Super Vikings made in 1982. They were basically an updated Albion Viking mid engine full size chassis with a turbocharged version of Albion's venerable 400 engine. The ones in my area had Allison autos and were among my favourite buses ever. Sounded beautiful and packed a punch for a smaller engine. I even managed to briefly capture a pair on video back in 1996!
Hello! I would like to make videos on those exotic Spanish buses....but I would need a good source of information (preferably in English) and good photos. Thanks for watching!!
@JeffreyOrnstein whe it comes to foreign placenames, even those in your native language, most of us struggle from time to time. I've had an American friend trying fail to teach me how to say Colorado. As for Connecticut....
@JeffreyOrnstein I like your videos Jeffrey, it is just that other "person". We all pronounce certain things differently. Who on earth could care less? I look forward to this other character's video series, so that he can be judged by others.
@@JeffreyOrnstein Don't worry, there are many forms of English, including English English and American English. The trouble with our shared language is there are varied ways of pronouncing words which are not spelled the way you'd expect. Keep up the good work, your posts are extremely informative. I visit the local Transport Museum in Manchester at least once a year, I have a Morris Minor Traveller car and our club have a get together every February at the Depot.
I have a copy of Mr Hilditch's books (which are really great reads!). Obviously he thought that the Numbus' were a mistake, but I guess that part of the problem is that they weren't really the bus for what was required in Halifax. They'd be great in a rural environment with reasonably gentle use as a coach, but in an Urban general bus environment, they just weren't designed for the use and abuse that a general urban bus gets, even though they were intended for a semi-rural service.
His Steel Wheels and Rubber Tyres tetralogy is a good read too. To know where GG Hillditch was coming from it's useful to remember he learned his trade as a London and North Eastern Railway premium apprentice at Gorton locomotive works.
Hello! I also have both of his books, they are great, as you say! Thanks for the info about Halifax and thanks for watching!!!
I used to love the Guernsey fleet in the 70s. They were always an indicator to a London kid like me that we were definitely on holiday. It was a sad day when they went.
Hello! Yes, they seemed like interesting buses, although I was never on one! Thanks for watching!
De-regulation in UK ('86) spawned a need for mini buses. MCW Metroriders were a departure from converting vans. And there were a lot of van conversions!
Thanks for the info! Thanks for watching!
@@JeffreyOrnstein They were a good bus.. But the back seat was always broke.. You got...er.. Raised. shall we say! ;)
Thanks!
Oh my, thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I can't tell you how much I appreciate it! I'm really glad you liked the video! Thank you so much!!!
Due to the often excessive exhaust smoke these buses could produce they were often known as cumulonimbi, those menacing clouds that could produce hail and thunder.
I often rode on the Western National Bristol SU types and found them capable little buses for their duties. SN/WN had 97 of the bus specification and 36 coaches. The coaches in later life were downgraded to one man operation bus work and fitted with full destination displays and fare collection equipment. These were very comfortable vehicles on rural services.
LOL, didn't know about being labeled as such, but interesting. Thanks for the info on the SU. Thanks for watching!
@@JeffreyOrnsteinreplaced i think by Marshall bodied short and narrow Bristol LHs
Love your channel, videos and enthusiasm, and you're great with British place names, but one small nitpick this time: "Mousehole" the place is pronounced sort of "Mouzull" with a soft s, first part rhymes with "trouser" and the "hole" is reduced to "ull" rhymes with "gull"😃
Keep up the great work Jeffrey!
As a quasi Devonian, yes Mowzul would be right. With Mow as in now.
@@philhealey4443 Possible closest may be "mousle" like "tousle"?
Hello! Thanks for the nice words about my channel! And the correct pronunciation is noted...it's a bit difficult for me, from where I am, to know the correct speaking of all of these towns, neighborhoods, etc. Thanks for watching!
I like the look, and colour scheme of the Nimbus shown at 6.21.🐞🐞
Hello! Yes, it's a nice looking Nimbus!! Thanks for watching!
Another excellent video, superbly researched and entertainingly presented. Great use of photos too. Thank you!
Hello! Thank you! I'm really glad you liked the video!!! Thanks for watching!
@@JeffreyOrnsteinThis reminds me of the small bus used by London Transport in Sutton. I think it was a Bristol ? A noisy little thing on the route 80 .
Jeffery. As always I am blinded by your dedication to research. I can’t even begin to imagine where you got your love of UK buses? I hope there is someone in Halifax, Goole or Burnley doing similar research on US buses (motor coaches). I hope your hard work & dedication enlightens the world for entirely.
Hello Nigel! Thank you so much for your really nice comment!! I always was fascinated by UK buses - I have a very large collection of books from Ian Allan and many others. The variety is really amazing. I'm really glad you enjoyed what I have been creating, and there's more to come. Thank you so much for watching!!
I'm digging what you're doing, dude. Good stuff.
Hello! Thank you so much for your positive comment, it is much appreciated! Thanks for watching!
The Bristol SU / SUL vehicles were produced exclusively for the Tillings group of companies which at that time were nationalised and which had its own vehicle building arm, Bristol Commercial Vehicles. They were fitted with Albion EN 250H engines, David Brown gear boxes, BMC axles with vacuum servo assisted Hydraulic brakes and were bodied exclusively by Eastern Coach works in both service car and coach versions. The main operator was Western / Southern National who used most of the production run with 133 jof the 181 vehicles built. The were used on the lightly used rural routes with the coach version used for E&T work on Exmoor and Dartmoor, being 7ft 6 wide and short they were quite handy. Occasionally the coach version would be used on duplicate Royal Blue services but traffic has to be utterly desperate for that to happen. They were replaced by the Bristol LH which although were usually 8ft wide were also available in a marrow (7ft 6) wide version, again theses were mainly used for r tour work on the narrow West Country roads. When these started to be withdrawn from service they were snapped up by operators in the Channel Islands.
The EN 250 H engines are virtually identical to those used on the railways in the early Diesel multiple units which had several of these engines mounted under the carriage floor Did Albion also supply these engines to the train makers as they were probably better suited to railway use than in buses because of their size.
Hello! Thanks for all that info about the Bristol SU!! Thanks for watching!
Interesting. I remember the Booth and Fisher buses and rode on them as a child between Killamarsh and Worksop in the UK. Just a slight correction: the Booth and Fisher bus sown at 6:02 was purchased 2nd hand by the company from Great Yarmouth: they were not run in Great Yarmouth in the Booth and Fisher livery.
Thanks for the additional info...it's sometimes a bit difficult to find these details! Thanks for watching!
Thank you, Jeffrey!
You are very welcome, I'm very glad you liked the video!!! Thanks for watching!
Great stuff, Jeffrey - ever thought about a look at the quirky AEC Q type - or maybe I've missed it? I think there are just two survivors
Hello! Oh yes, I have thought about the AEC Q for a video - so it might happen! Thanks very much for watching!
Very good and interesting video. Well researched. 😊
Thank you, glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!
I vaguely remember these funny little buses still in service in the early 1970s. Most of the buses in the UK are now made on the Continent of Europe. The British automotive industry has been in general decline for many years. British Leyland turned out to be an industrial disaster and eventually collapsed in the 1980s. There are some interesting videos on the Internet about the decline and fall. Essentially, as the company got worse the government stepped into to subsidise it, but this only intensified the problems. The management was inefficient and shamelessly hierarchical and then the unions kept demanding greater pay rises. It eventually got so crazy that some of the unions were actually taken over by card-carrying Communists! It became like a comedy. Eventually, the workers got sick of the Communists and voted them out, but the damage had already been done. Markets had been lost to better overseas products. Tragic.
Wow! Love these historical bus videos Jeff. Those small, well middle- sized buses were cute, and served their purpose in their time.
Some may be preserved in transport museums for posterity. But for others who have no access to a museum we have Jeffrey Ornstein.
Thanks for your passion and research. Keep rolling them out, you're doing a great job.
This channel is like a dream and I like his style.
Hello! Thank you very much for your positive comment! I'm really happy you liked the video! And thank you so much for watching!!
Thank you!!
The Lough Swilly bus company in Ireland had a few they didn't last long on the County Donegal Roads. Leyland buses was their type off vehicle.
Hello! Thanks for the info about the Nimbus in Ireland! Thanks for watching!
Another excellent presentation. Where I lived in North Manchester in the mid 1960s to early 1980s, our local bus was a single decker, as part of the route included a low bridge, unsuitable for double deckers. Most of our buses were Leyland Panthers or Panther Cubs, but one bus was, I think, a larger version of the Albion Nimbus. By the mid 1960s, this bus was already around a decade old. By around 1967/8, it was taken out of service and all our single deckers were then Panthers. Your picture of the orange and white Greater Manchester Albion Bus shows the destination Holcombe, which is in the northern area of the Metropolitan Borough of Bury, just north of Manchester, near where I live. I note the registration on the vehicle isn't local (the suffix JX is, I believe, a Halifax one, indicating it originally came from that area, which, given info here, including a picture of a Halifax bus with a similar registration, would make sense). Given the livery of the buses shown, these were the usual colours from the early Greater Manchester buses in the1970s until bus deregulation in 1986, when the bus system was disastrously privatised. BTW, Mousehole in Cornwall, is pronounced Mowzul. Such are the vagaries of the English language.
Hello! Glad you liked the video! Thanks for the info on Nimbus and the GM vehicle. Thanks for watching!
Checking up in a book I have regarding the North Manchester Bus Depot, Boyle Street, Cheetham, Manchester, written by Ron Barton, a bus conductor and driver, 1962 to 2006, he lists the garage fleet as of early 1967, by which time he'd qualified as a driver. The sole Albion bus listed in the fleet was an Albion Aberdonian, a bus I occasionally travelled on, I think the remainder of the single deckers were all Leyland Panther and Panther Cubs. I think it was withdrawn from service at that depot shortly afterwards.
This buses (albion nimbus, abodonion, victor ) also used in sri lanka about 70 years ago.
They made a bus for everyone,but the pen has to hit the paper to sell,thumbs up, great video, very enjoyable
LOL, sounds like that's exactly what happened! Thanks for watching!
Jeffrey, interesting video as per usual - I don't see anyone making this comment so I'll stick my neck out a bit - there is a picture of a JMT Albion on the video, but I would suggest it is a Viking, not a Nimbus - Guernsey has quite a few Nimbuses (Nimbii?) but Jersey I don't believe so.
I also liked the reference to Geoffrey Hilditch and I do have his two ...Looking At... books but would thoroughly recommend his autobiography split into 4 volumes 'Steel Wheels & Rubber Tyres', of which the 2nd part is absolutely brilliant in my opinion ( he also did a really cracking history of Halifax Passenger Transport about 10 - 12 years ago which is well worth seeking out). Keep up the great work and maybe do some American buses - I would love to know more about the MC6 (I think that's what it's called) which operated on the Greyhound Lines.
Hello! Thank you for the positive comment! I checked the photo in creative commons, and it's captioned as an Albion Nimbus, but they may be wrong. I have the Looking at Buses books and they are great...I may not have been that aware of his autobiography, so I may look into trying to find those volumes. As well as the Halifax book. Yes, the MC6 is an interesting looking bus that paved the way for future Greyhound models. Thanks for watching!
Nice work, as usual. I think there is a definite need for mid sized busses on some routes in our city of 150,000.
Yes, and mid-sized buses seem to be rare these days! Thanks for watching!
As a Guernseyman, born and bred, I went to School, to our Town and to the Cinema as a young lad on a Green Nimbus. They were the perfect size for Guernsey in the 1970s.
Thanks for the Nimbus memories! Thanks for watching!
Great video 😊 very interesting 👍 keep up the great work 👍
Thank you very much, I'm really glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for watching!
Omg, what a sweet surprise!!!
Thank you! Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!!
Another awesome video of a bus I knew little about! Thanks Jeffery, great selection of quality photos too. Have you been to the UK at all Jeffery? Think you would enjoy the many, many Transport museums we have and the wonderful open days, where you can ride on the buses you talk so eloquently about! Have a good day, cheers from Brunei.
Hello! Glad you liked the video. Was there a long time ago, need to go back and see all of the current goings on, as well as the preserved classic stuff. Thanks for watching!
Interesting stuff, I lived close by a route operated by Booth & Fisher and sometimes caught their buses but I have no recollection of this type. I also spent plenty of time in Great Yarmouth with the same result . I guess I must have been too young to notice them .
Glad you liked the video, and thank you for watching!
I remember these well in the Halifax fleet and don't remember any breaking down on me. I thought they were rather good busses With Halifax area having routes along narrow winding roads and steep hills I guess they ordered more than other companies, being better able to negotiate the tight bends
Hello! Thanks for your memories of the Nimbus!! I guess they were good for some of the routes around Halifax. Thanks again for watching!!!
I would love to see you do a video on my favourite bus from the late 70's and early 80's, the Dennis Dominator.
Hello! I will look into the Dominator!! Thanks for watching!
@@JeffreyOrnstein if you ever find yourself in UK I know a few bus museums that are not well known, not as well known as the London TransportMuseum for example. Let me know.
As soon as you said mid or under floor engine, right then I figured why it didn’t work out. Smaller buses built as whole units never seem to gain much interest. Over here buses built on van cutaway chassis (mostly FORD) . They do well for hotel/airport/rental car shuttle. Many colleges, churches and geezer hotels make good use of them. Very interesting and informative as always Jeffery.
Thank you, and thanks for watching!
Nice one ! The Nimbus.... oddly enough named after a cloud...
The Aberdonian and Viking fared better though, Albion eventually became part of British Leyland.
Glad you liked the video!! I was thinking that Nimbus was the combo of nimble and bus. But maybe I'm wrong, LOL. Thanks for watching!
Albion were taken over by Leyland in '51 and the Nimbus was produced in '55. So, I would imagine there's at least as much Leyland thinking as Albion thinking in the Nimbus.
Leyland were to Albion what GM was to Saab (and many other brands). An amorphous blob of a company that wasted most everything it touched.
Such a shame.
Greetings from Scotland! Really enjoy your videos.
Why don’t you check out the Leyland Tiger Doyen or Alexander M Type coaches. Might make good future videos!
Hello! I'm really glad you like my videos!! I'll look into those you mentioned! Thanks for watching!
'Albion' is pronounced 'Al -be on' with the 'L' sounded. Also Mousehole is pronounces Mouse -sill! Isnt English weird?! BTW, the picture at timestamp 6:10 looks to have been taken at what is called Tram Sunday at Fleetwood Lancashire, UK.The stretch of road is called Lord Street, I was born about 500 yards away in a small terrace houce in 1956. Until trams returned to the roads in Manchester, Fleetwood was the last remaining place in the UK where trams actually ran on the road for about 30+ years! Although Tram Sunday started out as a show for trams, it expanded to included buses and vintage vehicles and is still held every year in July.
Hello! Thanks for the pronounciations! It's a bit difficult for me to know these intracacies from where I am...but I'm trying, LOL. Thanks for watching and for the memories of Fleetwood!!
It looks really cute though
Yes, it's quite a charming little bus! Thanks for watching!
A Scottish built bus, Albion of Scotstoun, Glasgow. The former Albion factory is now part of Paccar making axles & gearing for buses & trucks
Was it to do with Kirkstall?
Thank you for the information about Albion and thanks for watching!!
On the Albion subject the Lowlander is worth a look.
Hello! Will look at the Lowlander...I like those too! Thanks for watching!
Replaced exhaust donut yesterday on My 79 GMC 6000. Easy access underneath. This unit has headers up top & unless seats removed & floor lifted sounds like a complicated task
Hello!! That must be awesome to own one of those GMs! Yeah, why make it easy to fix this bus?!?! Thanks for watching!!!
Any idea on performance on potholes urban or rural?
Didn't see anything on pothole performance...just mechanically. Thanks for watching!
@JeffreyOrnstein Bit if tongue in cheek. Roads probably better back then. Thanks for your research and passion.
Albion Nimbus running chassis. It looks like a choice bus to restore to the max. Lifting the passengers a few inches to mount the drive train middle and low means they are extra safe from cars and the center of gravity is low. The body rides nice and high above the ground and the size is optimal and rare. Imagine it upholstered with some pizzaz.
Hello! Thanks for the comment about the Nimbus! Thanks for watching!
Is the plural Nimbuses or Nimbi? (Sorry 😂)
I guess that the Bristol LH, produced from 1967 onwards, was aimed at a similar market. The LHS model was only 26 ft long, and, in all forms, just shy of 2000 were produced
Hello! Good question! Since it has the word bus in it, I just used the plural of buses in Nimbuses. But maybe like you said it's more like the plural of something like cactus. The LH seems interesting! Thanks for watching!
I've driven RJX 250, the ex-Halifax bus which went to Harvey's of Mousehole, and even in preservation it continued to blow head gaskets with monotonous regularity. It was very much a "this side up handle with care" sort of bus, and far too fragile for the rough and tumble of everyday multi-driver stage carriage work.
Thanks for your experience with the Nimbus! Thanks for watching!
I'm surprised Albion would develop an engine for this especially after Leyland aquired it. It must have sounded like a tractor with four pots.
Maybe five cylinders would have been the go like some Gardners.
Yes, and it looks like Albion was relegated to the small/light vehicle market after being acquired. I guess the end was near... Thanks for watching!!
@@JeffreyOrnstein Albion products lived on into the 1980s under the Leyland name. I used to catch Leyland Super Vikings made in 1982. They were basically an updated Albion Viking mid engine full size chassis with a turbocharged version of Albion's venerable 400 engine. The ones in my area had Allison autos and were among my favourite buses ever. Sounded beautiful and packed a punch for a smaller engine. I even managed to briefly capture a pair on video back in 1996!
Nimbus (rai cloud) is a good name for a bus from rain-soaked UK.
Albion used the marketing slogan Sure as the Sunrise
LOL, I was thinking that Nimbus was a combo of Nimble and Bus. Maybe not. Thanks for watching!
@@JeffreyOrnstein it probably was,but resulted in somewhat of a damp squib.
Hiiii.... This is Jeffrey!😅
LOL, thanks for watching!!!
Staggering to think the chassis and a modern car are not that different in weight.
Yes, it's an interesting little fact! Thanks for watching!
They should have called it the 'Vimbus'.
LOL, you are right, it should have been called that! Thanks for watching!
Have you made a video of Spanish made busses/coaches?
Ayats bodied Pegaso.
Hello! I would like to make videos on those exotic Spanish buses....but I would need a good source of information (preferably in English) and good photos. Thanks for watching!!
Wallasey not Wallesey.
ok.
It's a short "e" ssound in Devon, so not Dee-von but more D-von. We'll get you speaking like a Brit when talking about British vehicles.
Hello! Thanks for the pronunciation lesson, LOL! Hard to know some of these intracacies from where I am. Thanks for watching!
@JeffreyOrnstein whe it comes to foreign placenames, even those in your native language, most of us struggle from time to time. I've had an American friend trying fail to teach me how to say Colorado. As for Connecticut....
As for Mousehole in Cornwall, that's pronounced as Mowzul...
@@paultaylor7082 I wasn't sure how to say it myself. Thanks for that.
Chassis .... is a French word and is pronounced as SHassee ......please try harder.
Yes, he should try harder, just like you with your manners.
Thank you, you are so right!
Thanks...but if you have an issue with my videos, you don't have to watch if you don't want to...
@JeffreyOrnstein I like your videos Jeffrey, it is just that other "person". We all pronounce certain things differently. Who on earth could care less? I look forward to this other character's video series, so that he can be judged by others.
@@JeffreyOrnstein Don't worry, there are many forms of English, including English English and American English. The trouble with our shared language is there are varied ways of pronouncing words which are not spelled the way you'd expect. Keep up the good work, your posts are extremely informative. I visit the local Transport Museum in Manchester at least once a year, I have a Morris Minor Traveller car and our club have a get together every February at the Depot.
ALbion NOT AlbiON
Ok, thanks for the correct pronunciation! Thanks for watching!