Why Do Men Look Like That?

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    In this episode, Elle dives into the double standards of beauty and fashion between men and women. She explores how society celebrates unconventional male aesthetics like the "dad bod" and "rat boy" trends, while women face intense pressure to conform to strict beauty standards. Elle discusses the financial burden of the "pink tax" on women's products and highlights the disparities in fashion expectations, using examples like Adam Sandler's praised casual style versus the scrutiny women face for similar choices. Throughout the episode, Elle emphasizes the need to extend the same grace and acceptance to women's diverse beauty as is increasingly given to men.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 754

  • @XXLady
    @XXLady 2 дні тому +1050

    I'm tired of being told I like dad bods.
    I don't. I like a fit man.

    • @blakerobinson5084
      @blakerobinson5084 2 дні тому +35

      Is it a man telling you that? 😂

    • @bm5_5_5
      @bm5_5_5 2 дні тому +44

      SAME HERE! Thank you

    • @kp8972
      @kp8972 2 дні тому +72

      Same and I have never said that I do! The only time I would accept a dad bod would be if I myself am out of shape.

    • @bm5_5_5
      @bm5_5_5 2 дні тому +49

      @@kp8972 BINGO! Which I am not so I wouldn’t be attracted to that.

    • @7avdes
      @7avdes 2 дні тому +18

      for realz, skinny guys 4 ever

  • @GeorgeGlass298
    @GeorgeGlass298 2 дні тому +1217

    As a middle-aged woman that survived the early 2000s I will forever be angry that men are told that their normal natural state is perfect just the way it is while women are completely ripped apart and told every single thing about them is wrong. We can't even have body hair without being shamed. And men being accepted for their dad bod when they didn't do anything to have the baby is infuriating.

    • @Youser999
      @Youser999 2 дні тому +70

      Same, girl. Was a child of the 80s/early 90s, teen in the later 90s and young adult in the early 00s. These were like the worst decades to be a woman or impressionable girl as far as body image is concerned.
      I had a bottom heavy figure to boot once I hit puberty around 12/13 years old, which was considered the worst body type/hideous at the time. I had ED until my early 30s. I'm still shocked that now my body type is considered the most desirable, at least with younger generations. It's helped a little in my self acceptance but there are still days where I struggle.
      Oddly enough, my #1 turnoff is an overweight or obese man. I'm not looking for chiseled abs and certainly not someone jacked, just lightly toned and in shape. I sure as hell am not into "dad bods" lol.

    • @AllezVous222
      @AllezVous222 2 дні тому +30

      When I look back at my life during that time (I was in high school and college, then), all I remember is being on one form of dieting or another. It was endless. I was 99 lbs. at 5’3”, hardly fat, but I remember feeling so much shame because I thought I was.

    • @aesop1451
      @aesop1451 2 дні тому +11

      "When everyone is super, no one will be." - Syndrome from the Incredibles. Just replace 'super' with beautiful.

    • @Khaegch-favh
      @Khaegch-favh 2 дні тому +14

      Omg the damage is real. Between that and religion, I was shamed into Asexuality. Looking back I had a natural toned, airbrushed, photoshopped IG model's body before that was even a thing. But in the early 90s, that was just considered being fat😡. I still have a tumultuous relationship with food. And I ruined my lady-parts lasering my hair off multiple times so I don't feel gross in my skin. My look has been "In" since the Kardashians, but the feeling that I was fundamentally repulsive and therefore unlovable had already sunk in 😖

    • @yorgivon-schmourgeussborgi
      @yorgivon-schmourgeussborgi 2 дні тому +9

      And this is why I size and bald shame them.

  • @ShroudedEnigma
    @ShroudedEnigma 2 дні тому +676

    “Dad Bod?” Just say you don’t work out, bro 😭

    • @peke1822
      @peke1822 2 дні тому +87

      why are we not calling it fat bod and that's it!??
      Because I know of men who criticise their wives for being fat after having children and working in and out of the house

    • @KatieLHall-fy1hw
      @KatieLHall-fy1hw 2 дні тому +16

      Right? And the description saying it wasn’t overweight? Hell yes it is! It isn’t obese though, at all

    • @MagisterialVoyager
      @MagisterialVoyager 2 дні тому +15

      i didn't count my blessing when i briefly saw an actual dad, who actually mostly raised his children/househusband (therefore a present dad), who worked out every day (our date was, like, 10 km uphill run, lol). what is even the reason for dad bod except not working out?

    • @AllezVous222
      @AllezVous222 2 дні тому +2

      Well, it wasn’t the men who came up with that term or decided to call themselves that.

    • @thezu9250
      @thezu9250 День тому +14

      The dad bod used to be older fathers who were muscular with just a little bit of extra body fat. But then it got co-opted to just be overweight out of shape men who aren’t even dads in the first place! Sir, how do you have a dad bod at 21?

  • @rockinstrawberries
    @rockinstrawberries 2 дні тому +2034

    As a recent first time mom… hearing about the mom vs dad bod literally blew my mind. The PRIVILEGE of being able to get celebrated for dad bod!! Y’all didn’t even give birth

    • @Adobe-acrobat
      @Adobe-acrobat 2 дні тому +129

      @@rockinstrawberries well the people who started celebrating dad bods and originated the term were college girls, and yes they were referring to guys who were not even dads. Do the same college girls celebrate not being a size 2 themselves? Let’s have that conversation lol

    • @talkingtochapri
      @talkingtochapri 2 дні тому +1

      Then stop celebrating dad bots. I celebrate motherhood and mom bots, but not obese males with beer belly 🤷🏻‍♀️ we are the society, stop lying to them.

    • @happygolucky9004
      @happygolucky9004 2 дні тому +20

      I agree. Down with over privileged men 😠

    • @lansvance4870
      @lansvance4870 2 дні тому +296

      This is the exact reason I fume when I hear “we are pregnant”. Yes, the kid belongs to both, but SHE is pregnant. To say “we are pregnant” implies the man is carrying part of the pregnancy. Is so disrespectful and demeaning to women and what they go through.

    • @wut2heck
      @wut2heck 2 дні тому +70

      @@lansvance4870 I feel the exact same way!

  • @TheWBWoman
    @TheWBWoman 2 дні тому +1111

    How about some love in society for "Mom bods"? We're the ones who give birth and do most of the work. Men have "Dad bods" but women are just "Fat" according to society. We need a Mom bod renaissance!

    • @elizabethkahn9155
      @elizabethkahn9155 2 дні тому +81

      Two kids later (worth every moment - so grateful for them) and escaped from a not so good marriage - DARN RIGHT I EARNED THIS BODY!! :) Those stretch marks are battle scars - it shows we survived (very dangerous preg/deliveries). Currently pursuing health for health's sake. Unrealistic society bodily aesthetic standards, can go pound sand.

    • @Adobe-acrobat
      @Adobe-acrobat 2 дні тому +49

      @@TheWBWoman interesting how college girls originated the term and desire for “dad bods” yet they themselves probably aren’t celebrating mom bods. The Renaissance starts with ourselves

    • @decoraqueena6413
      @decoraqueena6413 2 дні тому +82

      A man gets his dad title through the body of a woman, therefore I'd like to argue that the dad bod isn't a thing . It's just dudes who let themselves go.

    • @Aashka_The_Mystic
      @Aashka_The_Mystic 2 дні тому +3

      Exactly

    • @annemarz
      @annemarz 2 дні тому +12

      I forget which culture, but remember one where after women give birth, they don't lose the weight and it's a signal of how fertile they are, and gives them status and respect. So if they've had many children, they are visibly heavier and it's seen as something to be appreciated

  • @heyhey439
    @heyhey439 2 дні тому +1100

    It's ironic that in most animals, the male is the beautiful one that needs to perform elaborate dances and rituals to impress the female but humans are like this. Like, Boy, build me a house and do a tango in a feathery headdress and I might consider you lol

    • @once.upon.a.time.
      @once.upon.a.time. 2 дні тому +147

      YES I think about that all the time, especially when I see birds 😅

    • @BellaTheDollie
      @BellaTheDollie 2 дні тому +158

      Also animals not being offended when the females of their species go out to fetch food and resources, yet still provide because having two providers is an increased chance of survival.

    • @heyhey439
      @heyhey439 2 дні тому +139

      Plus, I was just reading a collection of stories of animals of all kinds protecting human women and girls from men trying to hurt them. The animals they teach us to fear have more integrity and humanity than the males of our own species.

    • @heyhey439
      @heyhey439 2 дні тому +18

      @@LondonMoneyCashEnterprise would you mind expanding on that?

    • @mangostring
      @mangostring 2 дні тому +2

      😂😂😂😂 🤙💛

  • @anastasiab-x2t
    @anastasiab-x2t 2 дні тому +632

    Me and my female coworker just worked at a fair and talked about the average mans audacity to come up to us and wink at us as if they dont totally look like shit and are double our age like sir do you own a mirror lol

    • @HalfPastTwelve-uv8lv
      @HalfPastTwelve-uv8lv 2 дні тому +21

    • @rosiean9064
      @rosiean9064 2 дні тому +109

      I worked at fairs and huge events too and I have the same experience. Me and my female colleagues were all dolled up and wearing "uniforms " and let me tell you....the audacity of average at best men 😂

    • @Nyuffykah
      @Nyuffykah 2 дні тому +4

      Unfortunately they are brainwashed to think we like older men :(

    • @gladitsnotme
      @gladitsnotme 2 дні тому +122

      And most of them were married and there with their families. 🤮

    • @rosiean9064
      @rosiean9064 2 дні тому +73

      ​@@gladitsnotme yes, it's always the married ones 😢 they're not even scared to "get caught" by their wife.

  • @briskettacos
    @briskettacos 2 дні тому +610

    "Women love dad bods"
    We do? Do we? Who is behind this psyop??

    • @winning3329
      @winning3329 2 дні тому +128

      I'm a woman and I sure don't

    • @elizabethkahn9155
      @elizabethkahn9155 2 дні тому +101

      "Smoking cigarettes makes you look sophisticated.." gotta love marketing.

    • @bm5_5_5
      @bm5_5_5 2 дні тому +24

      @@winning3329 Haha so many of us saying the same 😂

    • @MagisterialVoyager
      @MagisterialVoyager 2 дні тому +40

      i honestly don't either. i'm not eating healthy and work out regularly to not share that lifestyle reasonably with my man. sorry not sorry.

    • @Lifeisadream.
      @Lifeisadream. 2 дні тому +19

      @@LondonMoneyCashEnterpriseno they’re not look at the comments lol

  • @RedPandaNinja6886
    @RedPandaNinja6886 2 дні тому +357

    justin bieber showing up to an event dressed like that is genuinely absurd even as a pr stunt. hailey being in full glam and justin looking like…. that…. is contributing to men having the audacity to look like a scruffy mess while demanding perfection of their partners.
    call me shallow but i no longer give the time of day to men who dont look like they put in even an ounce of effort into their appearance. begone!

    • @flowerwebb0801
      @flowerwebb0801 2 дні тому +22

      Same! If they have the audacity to expect me to be a perfect super model while they look like they just crawled out of the sewer, than I'm gonna have the audacity to expect some effort from them in terms of appearance 🤣

    • @VelvetRed-rz8ur
      @VelvetRed-rz8ur 2 дні тому +7

      Yes. 👏

    • @lmn1516
      @lmn1516 2 дні тому +34

      It's not shallow when you consider that the habits that caused the dad bod (poor diet, drinking, sedentary lifestyle) are going to lead him to need a nurse and a purse way before his time. And I've learned that if a guy doesn't even respect himself, he can't really respect anyone else, either.

    • @endTHEhegemony_Today
      @endTHEhegemony_Today 2 дні тому +2

      A lot of guys put intentional work into the Jack sparrow/Rob zombie lifestyle grunge
      They DO spend time and money on it. They like it. They see some women respond to it and feel like it is acceptable (uphold the double standard: made-up goddes and scruffy rodent man)
      My personal preference is no odor, but I have to admit, I DO sometimes like intetnional grunge and tend to grunge myself for fun, but it just can't smell gross unless it's garage stank (lol can u tell I am very particular)
      🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤
      I am already increasing my standards just listening to Elle for a short time. I rlly appreciate this space and each and every one of you!!! Be sure to drink water!!!
      🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤
      Much Love!!

    • @ZZ-qy5mv
      @ZZ-qy5mv 2 дні тому

      It’s all conspiracy but after watching some deep dives of the unsafe environment child Justin was likely in… how he might be still manipulated and controlled. He can wear whatever he wants as far as I’m concerned. Especially as defiance towards Hailey.

  • @bellabuilder4160
    @bellabuilder4160 2 дні тому +411

    Another fun fact about Viking culture. In most places It was illegal for men to be shirtless in public. They also dyed and or bleached their hair. Blonde hair signals fertility, red hair signals strength, dark hair signals intelligence.
    Sundays or saturdays was called "the bath day", and it was all about cleaning yourself. They had special soaps they made. some where used for bleaching the hair.
    They where also super into poetry, as in you where considered a pos if you did not craft a poem for your wife, or your friends, once in a while. Men where excpected to be able to craft a poem on the spot, to describe an event. In duels, the loser was supposed to give a poem, Kväde, as his last words. And sometimes the winner was so touched by the poem that they would let him live.
    And Viking women had more rights than any other society in Europe during that time. They could divorce whenever they wanted, for whatever reason. In many places women where considered more spiritual, so they where often staffbearers, wise elders or shamans. Women could own property and be Jarls. Everyone was considered a child until they where 15. Child-marriage was very rare, and the majority of people married after 20. The Female warrior is kind of a myth though, it is not all untrue, but it is exaggerated.

    • @heyizz
      @heyizz 2 дні тому +142

      Man, Christianity did really f up a good thing many societies had going huh?

    • @julesb2415
      @julesb2415 2 дні тому +52

      ​@@heyizzI'm glad you said it

    • @briskettacos
      @briskettacos 2 дні тому +36

      ​@heyizz it made some places better (Arabia and Rome, for example, places where women barely had rights) but made others worse, depending on how much gender parity they had

    • @once.upon.a.time.
      @once.upon.a.time. 2 дні тому +25

      Thank you for sharing, that is all really fascinating! You've made me want to learn more about Viking culture 😊

    • @hobog12777
      @hobog12777 2 дні тому +12

      That sounds similar to Japan, where it was also common to be expected to craft a poem on the spot.

  • @impepenane
    @impepenane 2 дні тому +342

    men pressure us to standards that are not attainable like looking like we didnt birth a human when we did, if we can't attain these standards we have to fear getting cheated on or being left. And then men wonder why birth rates are declining?? make it make sense

    • @flowerwebb0801
      @flowerwebb0801 2 дні тому +63

      all this is so true. we worry that if we don't "bounce back" like a model in 1 day after having kids, then we'll be tossed aside by our man in favor of some younger, hotter thing.

    • @ДарьяДарина-ж5к
      @ДарьяДарина-ж5к 2 дні тому +66

      ​@@badge5575we don't. we don't make you shave your body hair when we date you or maintain a low body fat percentage. when you date a beautiful woman, you put pressure on her to be beautiful 24/7 even right after she has a baby

    • @winning3329
      @winning3329 2 дні тому +60

      Even women who are beautiful and fit the standards, still get cheated on and left.

    • @bennefib
      @bennefib 2 дні тому +1

      Also young girls at the age 12 : I'm ugly , I wish I could look like the prettiest girl I know ( her bff, her favorite artist, the popular girls )
      Then blame men lmfao 🤣

    • @lalywindland5764
      @lalywindland5764 2 дні тому +49

      @@bennefib Yes, because men and boys yell nasty things to her in the street. It happened to me starting from age 10. I was considered ugly and even my male relatives would comment on it in a "concerned" way. I hit the gym and forced myself to over eat (I was too thin naturally) and won a county beauty contest at 18 y.o. Suddenly everybody wanted to be close to me, but I was disgusted and only kept around the few that had treated me well, before 18 y.o. Ah and I only dated men I met after I was 18 y.o and that looked good, because I believe partners should be on equal footing.

  • @r.i.t.i.k.a
    @r.i.t.i.k.a 2 дні тому +524

    Just from the title alone - Amen. I'm not kidding - a guy once called me "lookist" - as if he wasnt the same guy who bullied me for years when i was fat. ✨️ MEN ✨️ Women can't have standards but men are allowed to micro-manage every aspect of how we look.

    • @flowerwebb0801
      @flowerwebb0801 2 дні тому +89

      Speak on it sis!! Men want us to look like movie stars with a perfect body, while still appearing effortless and like we "just woke up like this." But God forbid if we want to have standards or want them to put in more effort than a toddler!

    • @daidipyaa
      @daidipyaa 2 дні тому +51

      i mean men always want a woman to look a certain way, men leaving women once they get sick is so high nurses are taught to cater to sick women in a way that they warn those women that their husband might leave them. so why should women not have preferences? everyone is asking “personality or looks?” and i answer, “why not both? why can't men be nice AND also look good?” women do that(or are expected to do that) all the d*mn time. why should i not want a man who also looks nice and hot to me and and not just settle with him because he treats me nicely? my friends treat me nice too, it's barely a bare minimum. anyway, just ranted a bit, thanks for coming to my red talk.

    • @Akane1313
      @Akane1313 2 дні тому +34

      And I will keep my “lookist” standards because I shouldn’t be the only one shelling out money left and right and working myself to the bone to be considered attractive.

    • @gracezihalirwa3015
      @gracezihalirwa3015 2 дні тому +2

      Like have they see themselves ( those average men ) 🙄

    • @gracezihalirwa3015
      @gracezihalirwa3015 2 дні тому +3

      @@flowerwebb0801 right

  • @celeste3100
    @celeste3100 2 дні тому +149

    I do not consent! If women go to the gym to have the body men want THEENNN he better be in the gym working for the body women want. Point blank period!!!

    • @nonod5467
      @nonod5467 День тому +8

      @ashwinvk4124 I have been a regular gum goer for a decade. Majority of men are not serious in the gym and look the same year after year.

    • @nonod5467
      @nonod5467 День тому +4

      @@ashwinvk4124 Most men look average and have average bodies and there is nothing wrong with that. To imply that most men are busting their arse in the gym is a farce. It isn't a 'my gym' issue. As I said I have been weight training for a little over a decade in many gyms in multiple countries. Most men are NOT serious in the gym and don't train hard particularly in commercial gyms which is where most gym goers tend to go. Spit and sawdust type gyms are different, but not where most men tend to go.

    • @celeste3100
      @celeste3100 День тому +1

      @@nonod5467 PREACH!!! And the once that do take their physique serious only want the Gym Barbies which I can’t blame them. I want to look like those women to get the man I want.

    • @celeste3100
      @celeste3100 День тому +1

      @@ashwinvk4124 I don’t condone women letting themselves go if they can help it. I know there are people with health issues that makes them gain weight. Those aren’t the people I’m speaking of. If you are able bodied and don’t want to be big, get in the gym. But these “body positivity” people are what’s keeping people unhealthy and shortening their lives. So I am fatphobic because I want to be attractive plus I’d like to live a healthy life as long as I can.

    • @celeste3100
      @celeste3100 День тому +1

      @@ashwinvk4124 I don’t condone women letting themselves go if they can help it. I know there are people with health issues that makes them gain weight. Those aren’t the people I’m speaking of. If you are able bodied and don’t want to be big, get in the gym. But these “body positivity” people are what’s keeping people unhealthy and shortening their lives. So I am f@t-phobic because I want to be attractive plus I’d like to live a healthy life as long as I can.

  • @hiitsme2427
    @hiitsme2427 2 дні тому +412

    never found dad bods attractive

    • @sORrYiMLaTe_wHAtdiDiMisS
      @sORrYiMLaTe_wHAtdiDiMisS 2 дні тому +77

      That's because it's not.

    • @hayaoblack7816
      @hayaoblack7816 2 дні тому +53

      @ zcorpalpha2462 … most of us are young women who are not into „older“men anyways 😅

    • @xitzbit926
      @xitzbit926 2 дні тому +47

      It isnt. I want athletic sculpted men. There is no excuse for them to be out of shape.

    • @leximichelle6022
      @leximichelle6022 2 дні тому +20

      Me neither. Like go to the gym lmao

    • @AyAReI00
      @AyAReI00 2 дні тому +49

      ​@@xitzbit926and for them Is easier to lose weight due to their hormones ... For real, and they don't achieved that??? Being a man is living in easy mode and some men don't do the bare minimum is infuriating

  • @Her844
    @Her844 2 дні тому +144

    I think us women are too nice to MEN

    • @Courtannica
      @Courtannica 2 дні тому +14

      Definitely

    • @minniemoe4797
      @minniemoe4797 21 годину тому

      They love using our kind nature to take advantage.

  • @CurlsonaPlane
    @CurlsonaPlane 2 дні тому +454

    I’m so glad we’re talking about this. The overall lack of attractive men forces women to compete for a handful of attractive men or settle for men we aren’t attracted to for utility.
    *Adding that the dearth of attractive men + surplus of attractive women makes the few existing attractive men increasingly non-committal/promiscuous and unsuitable for partnership.
    Everyone loses when men don’t take care of themselves.

    • @peke1822
      @peke1822 2 дні тому +124

      Exactly!! I've always been saying, there are a LOT of pretty and gorgeous women, while there are very very few "acceptable" men and then they complain that women go for the 1%, when they don't put the bare minimum that is exercising and being clean. and then we have just to learn to love the dad bods out there 🤮

    • @CurlsonaPlane
      @CurlsonaPlane 2 дні тому +36

      @@peke1822 that’s it! Many would rather just be single than suffer through intimacy with someone you don’t want to touch you or be in a db marriage. The orgas m gap is already massive and they won’t even try to make themselves baseline physically appealing.

    • @lucy-ferprofiler5379
      @lucy-ferprofiler5379 2 дні тому +92

      I think more and more pretty women now will refuse to drop their physical standards towards men and will prefer staying single

    • @XXLady
      @XXLady 2 дні тому +8

      Well said, but man, that last line - you said a mouthful!

    • @TashaRansomArt
      @TashaRansomArt 2 дні тому +4

      Yes

  • @Love_Crafts_HP
    @Love_Crafts_HP 2 дні тому +538

    Men didn’t need a body positivity movement. They just existed as they were and women just accepted it.

    • @Love_Crafts_HP
      @Love_Crafts_HP 2 дні тому +115

      @@COMEONalreadytaken Men also say they don’t like tall women/ women that are taller than them. The hight filter isn’t just for men. 🙄

    • @winning3329
      @winning3329 2 дні тому +44

      ​@@Love_Crafts_HP got him 😂

    • @Love_Crafts_HP
      @Love_Crafts_HP 2 дні тому +68

      @@winning3329 I hate when a #hemotional whine about hight as if women are the only ones who have hight preference when dating 😑

    • @taylorhillard4868
      @taylorhillard4868 2 дні тому +3

      ​@@Love_Crafts_HP the amount of guys that won't date tall women is like less than 5%, and that 5% is exclusively insecure dudes. Whereas women that won't date even average height men (5'7") is over 50%.

    • @kimberlyh.1090
      @kimberlyh.1090 2 дні тому +26

      @@taylorhillard4868 Boohoo.

  • @AkairoKaminari
    @AkairoKaminari 2 дні тому +303

    Especially as a bi girl I guess I'm absolutely baffled by the double standards in beauty standards in women and men. Most of my male crushes are 2d anime guys nowadays because of that.

    • @heyizz
      @heyizz 2 дні тому +74

      I am straight but have also given up on 3D men. You are so valid.

    • @AkairoKaminari
      @AkairoKaminari 2 дні тому +14

      @@heyizz What are some of your husbandos or type, if you don't mind sharing? :)

    • @heyizz
      @heyizz 2 дні тому +16

      @@AkairoKaminari my number 1 is an unconventional choice, Kazami Yuuji because he's a disciplined, wise beyond his years stoic with a dry sense of humor with a sensitive soul underneath. But when it comes to looks I absolutely love men like Lelouch. I just love the tall and rail thin men without muscles. They just look so elegant.

    • @Homo_heidelbergensis
      @Homo_heidelbergensis 2 дні тому +29

      Almost all of my crushes are on "fictional" (I'm hoping to whatever out there that they're real) characters

    • @Akane1313
      @Akane1313 2 дні тому +15

      Heavily invested in Love and Deepspace right now. 😅

  • @liefiscute
    @liefiscute 2 дні тому +254

    The title is so real

    • @ptlovelight2971
      @ptlovelight2971 2 дні тому +26

      Right?! She said the quiet part out loud 😂

    • @nanadecarvalho7840
      @nanadecarvalho7840 День тому +1

      @@ptlovelight2971She really did 😭 It’s so true.

  • @flowerpower7065
    @flowerpower7065 2 дні тому +157

    It’s manipulation tactic or form of gaslighting into accepting an already low standard man. Back in the days, if a man was fat… its because he was wealthy and had access to food. Yeahhhhhhh no. Miss me with that absolute BS.

    • @RedRose01289
      @RedRose01289 2 дні тому

      And these rich men still need to work out like Jeff Bezos. What's the point of being rich and unhealthy? So that you die early and leave all that wealth to a young and beautiful happy widow?

    • @Gerac68hfr
      @Gerac68hfr День тому +5

      That same logic was actually applied to women as well. Skinny wasn't always the beauty standard

    • @DaianaQuevedo-ly6py
      @DaianaQuevedo-ly6py День тому +5

      But that is a fact, access to food wasn't the same in the past. People who had wealth had the means to stay at home, eat in big amounts several times in the day and had someone else take care of almost every task in and out of the house. They didn't do much so they got fat.
      In the past, women who were fat were also considered beautiful because they had the wealth to be like that.

    • @flowerpower7065
      @flowerpower7065 День тому

      @@harpsdesire4200 body positivity was supposed to be about women embracing scars, stretch marks, skin disorders like vitiligo for example, disabilities, etc. Not straight up embrace and promote heart disease, cholesterol, and diabetes. They f everyone up with that body positive delusion and morphed it into something else, making people think fat is beautiful… Healthy is.

    • @flowerpower7065
      @flowerpower7065 День тому

      @@Gerac68hfr Yup.

  • @Umioko
    @Umioko 2 дні тому +175

    You might not see this, but my friend showed me your channel recently and I’ve been watching so many of your videos since then. I ended my recent relationship and your videos have really helped open my eyes to being a spoiled girlie and totally affirmed the breakup. Thank you, keep doing you! 🥰❤️

    • @aleahl4765
      @aleahl4765 2 дні тому +23

      if no one else has told you yet, I’m so proud of you !! welcome to the spoiled girlie group 🤍 we’re so glad you’re here

    • @11laila11
      @11laila11 2 дні тому +10

      Good on you and welcome 😊☀

    • @ImanJamilaa
      @ImanJamilaa 2 дні тому +7

      Welcome❤

    • @NatzTalk
      @NatzTalk 2 дні тому +4

      Loving all the positive empowering comments!💛😍

  • @Nessaursille
    @Nessaursille 2 дні тому +69

    Like weren’t we trying to get rid of rats… Now they’re attractive?

    • @dreamchaser7603
      @dreamchaser7603 2 дні тому +11

      Fr 😂 I am a Cat!! I tolerate Neither hamsters nor rats 😂

    • @bboyVice007
      @bboyVice007 2 дні тому

      This is only true and only works for white guys

  • @bm5_5_5
    @bm5_5_5 2 дні тому +67

    I don’t actually like a dad bod to be honest. I prefer fit and muscular men and guys who don’t drink every weekend.

  • @Seaspray127
    @Seaspray127 2 дні тому +135

    I was shopping for T-shirts for my husband and myself. Package of four T-shirts for him with pockets, $21.00. Package of four T-shirts for me (not high end brand) $42.00. And his take more material.

    • @peke1822
      @peke1822 2 дні тому +37

      I have also compared the quality of the textiles (at the same store) and the men's clothes have a higher quality for the same price, so I concluded that if I wanted the same quality of a man's t-shirt I had to spend more than them

    • @alexaacuna7007
      @alexaacuna7007 2 дні тому +31

      Cotton underwear for men are cheaper taking more fabric than woman's which are smaller and with a high porcent of polyester, same with blouses

    • @fantym1633
      @fantym1633 2 дні тому +11

      I'm small enuf that I buy clothes in the boys dept. It's much cheaper, better quality & very helpful in averting the main gaze - since I'm old AF (& not interested), but they still tryna score. Where is that d... wall ?

    • @elizabethkahn9155
      @elizabethkahn9155 2 дні тому +20

      Don't they get better quality fabric too? So much polyester in our clothes!

    • @th-ck9vl
      @th-ck9vl 2 дні тому

      @peke1822 On one hand I get it, because women are into fast fashion and we are pretty wasteful with clothes so wasting the nice cotton when they'll likely get thrown away in less than six months is gross. Like it is, its gross and we really need a movement to stop fast fashion because all of the wests trash ends up in the backyards of people in underdeveloped nations. Saw a video of children playing on a giant pile of plastic crap. Their shores were clogged, fish were dying. Its disgusting.
      BUT on the other hand, making us pay twice as much for crap, thin polyester or inferior blended cotton when they get pure organic cotton for less when ours takes less material is also gross. Men who want to deny the pink tax exists says it's because we have more curves so it takes longer to make, but as a former seamstress that's nonsense and it comes out the same since mens clothes taper at the hips and need more material and usually have added pockets and more buttons which always was a pain in the ass for me at least. Women's shirts and pants were simple and straightforward.
      Don't even get me started on how mens winter coats and clothes are way warmer despite us being colder.

  • @rosesophieblack7287
    @rosesophieblack7287 2 дні тому +244

    When I was still dating in my late teens, early 20s ( I’m 26 now ), so many guys 10+ years older would hit on me. When I asked why they’d think a girl my age would be attracted by them they said girls my age love older men, cause we are attracted to maturity and dad bods. I couldn’t believe that they actually believe that. Those same dudes would comment on my hair being too long or the ends of my hair needing a cut cause they looked dry to them, my make up was too heavy, then it was too light, whatever I was wearing it was wrong, I’m 6’ so I’ve had a number of complaints of being too tall/big, had piercing and been told it makes me ugly. One piercing! I’ve been shamed for body hair, perfume not being good enough, my hips are naturally wide, but I’m not big so they’d complain that my hips are too bony, then I’d gain a bit of weight and “ I should eat more healthy “, so on and on. Once I blew up and told a guy he knew I’m 6’ tall before he started dating me, so his 5’8 280lbs ass should just leave me instead shaming me at a restaurant for ordering a freaking salad. Even the waiter looked at him and went “ dude, count your blessings “. I still have problems looking in the mirror. It’s all just too much to listen to over and over again for years upon years, but then when you say “ I actually would like a man closer to my age and a bit more lean than you are, sorry “, then the whole anger and aggression spills and the worst of cusses are unleashed upon you cause how dare you shame and have preferences. It’s dark and cold out there, you take care of yourselves girlies. Stay safe

    • @Nyuffykah
      @Nyuffykah 2 дні тому +27

      🤮

    • @MagisterialVoyager
      @MagisterialVoyager 2 дні тому +27

      we're really in the trenches. i'm your exact opposite as a five feet asian woman and some clearly 40+ years old men would hit on me in public, bloody thinking the adult me is, like, 15 years old?!!! then WHY would you hit on me, thinking i'm a high schooler??? do they even listen to themselves??? holy CRAP. it truly is dark and cold out there.

    • @PaniACoCo
      @PaniACoCo 2 дні тому +24

      I sometimes look younger so I have seen guys being dissapointed when I say I'm 24. I'm barely an adult, wth?

    • @rosesophieblack7287
      @rosesophieblack7287 2 дні тому +7

      @@MagisterialVoyager yeah, I’m not even going there with them trying to get as young as possible, cause that’s just infuriating. Especially when they’re trying to justify it with “ basic biology “ as they call it. Just ridiculous. Truly hope you’ll meet some normal ones

    • @rosesophieblack7287
      @rosesophieblack7287 2 дні тому +11

      @@PaniACoCo same, they usually think I’m 19/20. Then the smile disappears when I say I’m 26. All of a sudden they remember that I said I am engaged 🤦🏻‍♀️ it’s like, up to the point I reveal my age they don’t even hear me saying I’m not interested and I’m in a relationship. I hope you will meet less and less of those kinds of dudes, but realistically… just make sure to be safe!

  • @Huorfern
    @Huorfern 2 дні тому +49

    Hot Take: Dressing like overgrown toddlers is part of weaponized incompetence.
    Men obviously dress like overgrown toddlers bc it makes their lives easier.
    They might tell you as much.
    What they usually mean is they don't spend much time thinking about what to wear and everything has to be comfortable.
    But I'd argue that everyone around them (who obviously sees/experiences them with their look more than they themselves) perceives them subconsciously as kinda thoughtless, insincere /not serious or downright infantilized (bc that is how they dress) and will thus have lower expectations of them.

  • @kosmopolitanna
    @kosmopolitanna 2 дні тому +269

    I detest dad bod and everything that is concerning. Even the name 😂

    • @daidipyaa
      @daidipyaa 2 дні тому +11

      i mean i like a “dad bod”, but not like an effortless one, i happen to like big boys, or like, buff men. 🙈

  • @RunnerNinja
    @RunnerNinja 2 дні тому +103

    Your observations on the Pink Tax is spot on - just about every personal care/hygiene products for women are more expensive. Even vitamins - I noticed the "women's multivitamins" are more expensive as well. I buy gender-neutral and/or men's products and cut my own hair. I refuse to pay more for simply existing as a woman.

    • @AyAReI00
      @AyAReI00 2 дні тому +6

      Oh My god this ❤
      I was looking for Biotin since is good for hair and the vitaims are extremelly more expensive than men ones and is just the same freaking vitamina but the lbottle is pink and have a beautiful girls with long hair and it said """make your hair longer and healthier " .... Fuck i tried to look neutral ones or men ones cuz is abdurd to make it pink and charge the double

    • @minniemoe4797
      @minniemoe4797 13 годин тому +3

      It's absolutely unfair that women earn 25% less than men, have to pay more for beauty care and then have to pay 50% on a date. To get what? A 3-5 minute below effort, low quality sx ?

  • @rakohammmas
    @rakohammmas 2 дні тому +388

    I lost my daughter one month after birth (she was a full term baby) and the fact that I didn’t have the gift at the end of the rainbow which was my little girl AND having to deal with post partum depression, a full time teaching job, and the societal pressures to bounce back physically mentally etc was too much I still have a “mom bod” and feel extremely insecure about it and I don’t even have my baby. The mental damage that these expectations had on me everyday while looking at my body with stretch marks, weight gain, etc and jot even have a baby to show for it nearly killed me. Such a serious topic no one talks about thank u Elle♥️

    • @tcoleman307
      @tcoleman307 2 дні тому +80

      So sorry for your loss 🙏🏽

    • @CurlsonaPlane
      @CurlsonaPlane 2 дні тому +66

      That’s so difficult 😢 sorry for your loss. Hopefully you’re able to take more time off to recover even if you have to use social security

    • @olganova3058
      @olganova3058 2 дні тому +48

      Sending you warm and loving hugs.
      You are so strong.

    • @justbhavya
      @justbhavya 2 дні тому +37

      more power to your strength ❤

    • @heyizz
      @heyizz 2 дні тому +38

      I am so sorry for your loss. Please focus on yourself and your mental health, tune out society as much as you can. All women are beautiful.

  • @Hersheychocolate12
    @Hersheychocolate12 2 дні тому +73

    I am interested in the shift in casting white men who look like that in recent years (bc 90s and early 2000s had different vibes for sure) and then casting them esp with super pretty poc girls. It’s interesting …

    • @rejectionisprotection4448
      @rejectionisprotection4448 2 дні тому +12

      Yes it is……..

    • @flowerwebb0801
      @flowerwebb0801 2 дні тому +67

      that's so interesting, I never thought about that before. But you're right, 90s and early 2000s were very much like boy next door, charming, heart throb sort of male lead. And now you've got these stunning poc queens in movies with very average or below average white men. I feel like very rarely do we see a super pretty poc girl with an equally handsome poc male lead in mainstream media.

    • @dreamchaser7603
      @dreamchaser7603 2 дні тому

      @@flowerwebb0801this!! We women should show them we are not impressed!! Since we are the main demographic of these movies. They are trying to convince us we like it 😂

    • @Biya666
      @Biya666 21 годину тому

      @@flowerwebb0801 in mk1 game, bi han is very handsome and is paired with sektor, now a woman, who is pretty too but I would argue bi han is much handsome. Bother are chinese

  • @verdebabiiclone
    @verdebabiiclone 2 дні тому +197

    My boyfriend is so meticulous about how he looks it’s actually refreshing. He cares about his fashion, his skincare, he goes to the gym, shaves, and he still treats me like the princess I am
    To be honest, it’s kind of the bare minimum to care about your hygiene to this extent, but it’s seen as extra. Whenever I brought up something like skincare or even something so simple like putting on cologne my exs would get mad and say I was asking for too much? Like isn’t this what women are asked to do, and if we don’t we’re called lazy?

    • @ni9274
      @ni9274 2 дні тому +5

      Nope you don’t have to shave, go to the gym or apply skin care products to have good hygiene
      If you live a good lifestyle your body will be fine without gym, if you eat well your skin will be fine without skincare and shaving has no purpose in term of hygiene

    • @ni9274
      @ni9274 2 дні тому +1

      Idk about older generations but in younger generations women don’t get called lazy for not have skincare routine or not putting up perfumes, the average women of that generation does not even have makeup most of the time

    • @KushQueen9
      @KushQueen9 2 дні тому +7

      Right same as mine, it's very BASIC!

    • @once.upon.a.time.
      @once.upon.a.time. 2 дні тому +20

      ​​@@ni9274it's all a matter of preference and personal lifestyle, in my opinion.
      It may not technically be more hygienic but it may be a part of someone's personal style.
      Also I eat a very clean diet and stay hydrated but I still need a basic skincare routine, and I don't think that's unusual for the average person.

    • @winning3329
      @winning3329 2 дні тому +4

      Does your boyfriend have a brother?

  • @twistedmarshmellows
    @twistedmarshmellows 2 дні тому +122

    "if god wanted me to be straight he wouldn't have made men like that" kinda vibe

    • @PaniACoCo
      @PaniACoCo 2 дні тому +22

      Women are like so pretty

    • @shanicrystal8671
      @shanicrystal8671 День тому +5

      @@PaniACoCo I check women out way more than I do men. I’m straight lol. Saw such a gorgeous girly the other day she had red hair in buns I couldn’t stop staring lol

    • @missandry2669
      @missandry2669 День тому +9

      Women are definitely better looking

    • @Gerac68hfr
      @Gerac68hfr День тому +7

      ​​​@@shanicrystal8671 now if only men put nearly as much effort in their appearance as women 😔
      As a straight woman, the way I check out men vs women is very different. For women, it's purely aesthetic appreciation while for a men, it's a type of...hunger

  • @GrungeGalactica
    @GrungeGalactica 2 дні тому +66

    So we’re having to spend more of our time energy and money looking good & adhering to the unattainable standards men put on us, in hopes to be treated with respect/better/not harmed by them.
    Yet there’s still so many broke men..? I’d save crazy money if I rarely needed to buy clothes, or haircare, skincare, makeup, hair removal, health. What are they even spending their money on/time doing I’m so curious. If they can’t/ are unwilling to pay on a date, that’s actually embarrassing and disrespectful.
    Also imagine being enough exactly as you are, even if you looked hungover & had just rolled out of bed. Not having to worry too much about their size/fitness. They must have so much free brain space & time and money.
    Also menswear is due an upgrade. I wanna see men showing us their personalities, creativity, confidence, style. If we’re doing the most for beauty, men should care about what we’re seeing too.

    • @Krlowanigu-mg6eg
      @Krlowanigu-mg6eg 2 дні тому +23

      They spend on booze, fumes or games and gadgets.

    • @XXLady
      @XXLady 2 дні тому +7

      I believe they spend money on substances and gaming. They are addicted to booze, bud, and Fortnite.
      It's why they're so lonely too. They are glued to their ps5 rather than spending time out in the world.

    • @Forgottengs2ddess
      @Forgottengs2ddess День тому +1

      @@LondonMoneyCashEnterprisewish that was simple like that, but the world doesn’t work like that

    • @pinkpugginz
      @pinkpugginz День тому +2

      Drugs, booze, video games, doordash, and onlyfans

  • @cinnamongirl5410
    @cinnamongirl5410 2 дні тому +91

    Also, where you see a gut on a man, you got erectile dysfunction 100%. They have trouble keeping or maintaining an erection. (I work in the medical establishment) because that extra weight, especially on the front, screws with their system causing a slew of health problems. Type 2 diabetes, hypertension, CHF etc. ALL that acts on their ability to do the deed.

  • @SkippyLaughlin
    @SkippyLaughlin 2 дні тому +72

    I still want a genuine guy who's conventionally attractive. Sorry men don't settle unless they broke or creepy or olain horrible. But women are told to settle and genuine guys and hot guys are for a few select people. So no I'll remain single until I get someone who looks like Anthony Bridgerton

  • @happygolucky9004
    @happygolucky9004 2 дні тому +159

    I don't think women prefer Dad bods. I think the surveys were biased by presenting either roided out gym bro bodies or the Dad bod. There is definitely lots of male body types in between.
    The better surveys I've seen show that women prefer lean bodies on men with a body fat between 15-18%. That's not a dad bod at all.

    • @dg2517
      @dg2517 2 дні тому +51

      For sure. I definitely do not prefer a dad bod. The belly is not attractive to me.

    • @Nonnitot
      @Nonnitot 2 дні тому +22

      The dad bod is too loosely defined to really tell. 10 women can say they love a dad bod and be referring to 10 different variations of it.

    • @myrrhmaidmana
      @myrrhmaidmana 2 дні тому +10

      I agree, I think when/if women say they like dad bods they mean celebrities and off-season athletes-- a bit more average/natural version of an ideal fit bod.
      Otherwise I don't really get the dad bod trend, maybe women who are over a certain age start to like dad bod and/or it depends on the generation (of women) + previous generation (of dad bod examples).

    • @StefanTaf
      @StefanTaf 2 дні тому

      deffinetly

    • @winning3329
      @winning3329 2 дні тому +8

      I like slim and fit and a defined 6 pack if possible.

  • @CurlsonaPlane
    @CurlsonaPlane 2 дні тому +38

    Every time a man lets himself go, the orgas m gap gets wider.

  • @kr3642
    @kr3642 2 дні тому +195

    I definitely never preferred dad bods, in my heart I've always just been being polite and looking past it. I don't like extremely muscular either. Somewhere in between. Fit.

    • @th-ck9vl
      @th-ck9vl 2 дні тому +37

      Most women are shown to not like muscular men, and watching buff podcast bros lose their minds over it once they find out is so fun. They will say anything to deny it. One guy said "These women just don't want hot men because they're insecure and think they'll get cheated on!" Over a street interview where this other dude showed women three pictures, and none of them picked the buff dude.

    • @luisa146
      @luisa146 День тому +5

      ​@@LondonMoneyCashEnterpriseit's almost like women are people who have individual preferences and not a hive mind

  • @juliansutton-o8k
    @juliansutton-o8k 2 дні тому +113

    The mom bod thing is paradoxical because of women are supposed to be nurturing and loving child providers (according gender norms) why wouldn’t a larger and more “homely” body be appealing? How is a woman meant to be a modest nurturer and sexually alluring at the same time?

    • @Meta.Empress
      @Meta.Empress 2 дні тому +13

      🎯

    • @zekume
      @zekume 2 дні тому +18

      They used to be, it’s just not the standard anymore because of different universal values with social media

  • @xsunlx
    @xsunlx 2 дні тому +209

    🤣🤣 them trying to make "Dad bods" an alluring thing is too effing hilarious!! Like no honey we want HENRY CAVILL. 🤣

    • @winning3329
      @winning3329 2 дні тому +11

      I don't want any of that

    • @chanelgodd
      @chanelgodd 2 дні тому +14

      The answer to dad bods is NOT steroid bods let’s please pack that up

    • @cjpark1461
      @cjpark1461 2 дні тому +1

      Jackson Rathbone or Zen Gesner 🤩🥰

    • @thezu9250
      @thezu9250 День тому +3

      @@brawndothethirstmutilator9848 their idea of a dad bod is different than men’s idea of a dad bod.

    • @lauren128
      @lauren128 День тому +3

      Nah Henry Cavill is too old for me. I like Milo Manheim personally 🤗

  • @elizabethkahn9155
    @elizabethkahn9155 2 дні тому +83

    Also, UA-cam has been suggesting a lot of stealth wealth aesthetic to me lately, as I am a financial nerd, granted I know a lot of these videos are done by men, but they keep pointing out the true wealthy individuals look broke...is it just me, or does this give the impression - women won't (shouldn't) be able to achieve this because we "can't get away with" the plain t-shirt and jeans/slacks everyday? Granted they are not saying this, but I am seeing the lack of comment on what that looks like for a woman. All the examples shown typically are Mark Zuckerberg and Steve jobs. Maybe they can't because when people think wealthy woman, its like a must they have to dress better than the stealth wealth men. The argument is the stealth wealth have nothing to prove and wear what they like (casual). As you pointed out in your presentation, there is pressure on women to dress for a certain way; what does "looking broke" look like for a woman, where they can at the very least function in society without skepticism from others. Years ago a man
    Karl Stefanovic got away with wearing the same suit everyday as an experiment. He kept this up for a year and announced after --no one noticed. I am skeptical we could do that without comments made by others.

    • @BellaTheDollie
      @BellaTheDollie 2 дні тому +13

      The wealthy look pushed in your examples is to reflect the wealth of the man she's attached to, rarely are there stealth wealth examples of women who came into their own riches. Men get a certain aesthetic of woman as a reflection of their status, so their peers can gawk or approve. That's pretty sad.

    • @pt8421
      @pt8421 2 дні тому +4

      You bring an interesting argument. My friend noticed when I was wearing the same outfit. I was doing it because I gained weight and didn’t have many pants options and didn’t want to buy more. So yes, women noticed what we wear.

    • @elizabethkahn9155
      @elizabethkahn9155 2 дні тому +5

      @@pt8421 And to think it used to be common place just to have the same outfit (or a few). One for during the week and one for "sunday best." ....may have been the lower income communities/ less wealthy countries then. If memory serves, when I was a kid I watched a historical reinactment- in it President Adams and his wife years was overseas to work on national relations. It was overheard that people noticed his wife kept wearing the same thing over and over to events. Naturally, no comment was made about her husbands usual attire. His comments to her was (when it was brought up), we are from a young small nation, that has limited funding, how would it look if we (really her in this case) dressed in finery? What would it say to the people we represent? It wasn't until they went to a society that focused primarily on appearances that it was remarked on--and it was just in regards to his wife.

    • @elizabethkahn9155
      @elizabethkahn9155 2 дні тому

      @@BellaTheDollie ah fair point. Thank you for your feed back!

    • @pt8421
      @pt8421 2 дні тому +4

      @@elizabethkahn9155 People used to buy the nicest things they can afford, take very good care, and wear it to death. They always look presentable. They do have more than 2 or 3 outfits though. My understanding is that it would be the equivalent of a minimal wardrobe today. So they would have several dresses for everyday, a home dress for cleaning around the house, and a nice dress for formal event. Like today, they would buy what they can afford. Save money on big purchases like a nice warm coat.
      Mrs. Adams probably had very few formal dresses (or just one) for such a high level event consider her husband was a president. Depending on the wealth of her family and her husband’s family, they may not have the means. This kind of an item requires sometimes a year of savings.
      As for the comment about her lack of wealth (wearing the same dress), I assume by a reporter, is crass. It’s just to sell papers probably. I think people have always noticed how other people dress. Most of us choose not to comment. I think it’s impolite to. Pres. Adams replied in such a truthful and graceful manner.
      We wear the same outfit because this is what we can afford and what we want to afford. I always look presentable but I don’t want to over indulge in fashion. This is the value I set for myself.

  • @Yanlii__x
    @Yanlii__x День тому +27

    Girlie, I am seventeen and was going down my pickmeisha stage, and you and your videos single handed upped not only my standards, faith, and red flag radar, but saved my future with a bbmlem. Thank you!

  • @decoraqueena6413
    @decoraqueena6413 2 дні тому +86

    There's a thing called 'mommy makeovers' where women get cosmetic surgery after having a baby. These surgeries are quite costly so many women go abroad to get them cheaper from shady clinics. As a result, a lot of women have been unalived or had complications from these dangerous procedures.
    Imagine rewarding your post-partum body by cutting it into pieces and leaving your children orphaned.

  • @oneshotonehit6731
    @oneshotonehit6731 2 дні тому +84

    The idea that "women prefer dad bods" is just as absurd as "women prefer older men". My baby daddy is 4 years younger than me and fit af. Get over yourselves guys and join the gym before it's too late.

    • @karlcarlsen9664
      @karlcarlsen9664 День тому +3

      I rather die alone then running stupidly it to the gym wasteing my time and money with sensless shit to train just mainly for looks and aesthetics.
      BTW. to generalize from your personal anecdotal circumstance is as dumb, or maybe even dummer, as the statment generalizing"women prefer dad bods", cause some do some don`t some are okay with it etc. pp.

  • @Kate-bi9dh
    @Kate-bi9dh 2 дні тому +31

    As a mom I watched my weight excessively while pregnant and got so depressed when I gained weight while breastfeeding. Also, I dress my toddler son better than these men. Don’t compare them to toddlers, it does a disservice to toddlers.

    • @Courtannica
      @Courtannica 2 дні тому +5

      Don't feel bad!! You *definitely* need those calories while breastfeeding!!! As a mommy that is still breastfeeding, don't worry too much and just take time to care for your little ones and give yourself grace my loveeeee

  • @nebulanigrimleonis3883
    @nebulanigrimleonis3883 2 дні тому +26

    Lol.... ummmm No.
    I'm not putting up with the "Dad Bod" ish for a minute. My last relationship...he was working on himself. After he got me. He started getting fat. Eating whole Chicago pizzas, whole cakes, ice cream every night before bed. And I just went Cold Starfish. I would just lay there, no eye contact, no kissing, NOTHING. Our intimacy totally evaporated and we broke up. He gained 60-70 lbs in 6 months. His doctor told him he was officially obese. And he had the audacity to say to me "I might be fat, but I'm happy." 😮 Well be happy, and literally F yourself. Absolutely NOT.
    Like in Gone Girl. You will remain to be the man you pretended to be, when we first met. ❤

  • @KarenGriffith_SoulfulCoaching
    @KarenGriffith_SoulfulCoaching 2 дні тому +71

    What about how quickly post pregnancy expected to have SMEGS!

    • @VelvetRed-rz8ur
      @VelvetRed-rz8ur 2 дні тому +36

      I’m never getting married.. My mother even got assaulted when she was sleeping… The lines of consent are blurred and men drop the act of nice guy as soon as they deem you his property; they only respect boundaries during the early dating stage.. I’ll pass..

    • @PraiseTheFSMonster
      @PraiseTheFSMonster 2 дні тому +17

      And don't get me started on the husband stitch 🤬🤬🤬

  • @jeseenthaannejoji9582
    @jeseenthaannejoji9582 2 дні тому +63

    we are being FED this month ❤❤

  • @marinowy8998
    @marinowy8998 2 дні тому +86

    I recently saw this polish youtuber who got a lot of plastic surgery done. She puts a lot of effort in her appearance like her hair, nail polish, fashion, etc. Obviously she gets a lot of negative comments critisizing her choice to undergo plastic surgery calling her artificial and so on. But the shocking thing to me was her husband looking like a little boy with a bad haircut and no fashion sense, and on top of that he critisized his wife when her hair is not long enough 🤯

    • @dreamchaser7603
      @dreamchaser7603 2 дні тому +36

      This is typical for Eastern Europe, Unfortunately… Women there are naturally gorgeous but even that isn’t enough for their average looking men. So, women go over the top to look like real life Barbies. This look is very common there among middle class/upper middle class women. Even low income women would risk their health to get cheap lip fillers to maintain this type of look. It’s almost impossible to find a girl there who doesn’t do her nails monthly ( starting from 14-15 years old)

    • @lalywindland5764
      @lalywindland5764 2 дні тому +15

      @@dreamchaser7603 You are right. I'm from southeastern Europe and I traveled a lot. Poland is in Central Europe but about the same mentality... women have to be very pretty and men have to earn a lot. Plastic surgery is common and cheaper than in the west and we have talented doctors. A woman with no make up on is considered lazy or depressed. I wear minimal make up and I get weird looks.

    • @marinowy8998
      @marinowy8998 День тому +6

      @@dreamchaser7603 So true and sad. And the way society turns on these women when they get something or "too much" done is just crazy, the polish influencer seemed really kind, she takes care of her house, child and dog and does interviews with guests but her husband is just over there organisizing games like "Monopoly in real life" or whatever and behaving like a kid 😭

    • @hanna.ciszewska
      @hanna.ciszewska 12 годин тому

      What youtuber are you talking about? I'm Polish but I know basically nothing about our internet celebrities...

  • @th-ck9vl
    @th-ck9vl 2 дні тому +25

    Oh come on, how little can men even try??? They're going to try even LESS now like how is that possible please

  • @yvonnekilla3971
    @yvonnekilla3971 2 дні тому +21

    The rat boy thing is so real ! I do not find them attractive and always wondered how they "slipped through the cracks" now i know why

    • @paniskorpion66
      @paniskorpion66 2 дні тому +1

      +1

    • @AyAReI00
      @AyAReI00 2 дні тому +2

      Is media play, they are trying to shove US the idea they are attractive, they want to Bad to make Sabrina Carpenter bf hot, is not Even sutil ....why ??? Idk yet but Hollywood is weird

  • @dameluz5228
    @dameluz5228 2 дні тому +17

    “Even tho they’re not Dads-even tho they have not given birth”..👁🎯👁

  • @deborahw2338
    @deborahw2338 2 дні тому +33

    Just to nitpick about the middle ages hygiene thing... People still washed themselves, it just wasn't what we would call bathing. Most poor people would either wipe themselves down with wet cloth or do an equivalent to dry brushing. Only the rich could actually bathe, because you need a lot of manpower to heat enough water for a tub. The Vikings would typically bathe in rivers. There's also such a large span of time that we consider the "medieval" ages, that a lot of nuance is lost. The middle ages span approximately 500CE to 1500CE, while the Viking age only occurred from about 790CE to 1066. Also, depending on where people lived geographically, the culture around bathing would be different. Places like Spain and Italy, which would have a much greater north African/Mediterranean influence, probably approached hygiene differently than England and Germany.
    Sorry for the essay, this is just a special interest of mine, and i get carried away.
    But still, men have no excuse nowadays.

    • @unrulycrow6299
      @unrulycrow6299 2 години тому +1

      I may add that bath houses were actually quite common and very much a thing as a hygiene and social gathering area, to the point the Papacy ended up intervening and forcing a clear separation between men and women because licencious things would also happen and the Vatican went full Not Under My Catholicism™️ lol Cleanliness was quite important during the Middle Ages, and people would actually wear colourful clothes as well - as much as they coud afford.

    • @deborahw2338
      @deborahw2338 2 години тому

      @@unrulycrow6299 very true, the Romans loved their bathhouses and were always building aqueducts wherever they went. I would love to visit some of the ones that still exist. And the drab medieval narrative is such a pet peeve of mine! Always glad to find fellow medieval nerds

  • @Princesselle94
    @Princesselle94 2 дні тому +25

    I will never understand the dad bod especially when most of the time it’s women doing all the work raising the children. I learned the hard way that men that don’t put effort into themselves will treat me poorly too and resent me for being girly so although it my not be my preference I will never be with a man again that doesn’t put more effort into his appearance.

  • @supernovayo
    @supernovayo 2 дні тому +26

    This is a little off topic but today in a group chat I asked which ink should we use to write a particular assignment (because my institution is that strict and I'm new there) . A girl replied saying blue. But the boys ....... they said stuff like "that's such an irrelevant question" , another one said "I wonder if she's gonna ask which company's pen should we use" , another said "people who don't have a job ask such questions", another said "what a incredible question" sarcastically. We all are late teen students btw. The girl just answered politely but the boys are so freaking rude and always ready to throw some hatred. I answered the last one sarcastically but just didn't bother to answer the previous alpha male wannabes 🤣 because Elle said not to engage in conversation with these haters who hate in order to get attention and project their frustration onto others.

  • @autumnislovely
    @autumnislovely 2 дні тому +23

    I don’t think men understand that women generally don’t love dad bods. 😂 Women will love a good man regardless of a dad bod. If you’re masculine, wholeheartedly love us, and give us emotional security, we don’t care what body you’re carrying.

    • @pavelthefabulous5675
      @pavelthefabulous5675 2 дні тому +4

      Tell that to the top comments LOL.

    • @_tripalong
      @_tripalong 2 дні тому +10

      Speak for urself. The time and effort we put into our beauty should be appreciated and reciprocated. The least men can do is try to look presentable, bc we women try to look our best on the regular. If he ain't putting effort on himself, he certainly is gonna take your effort for granted.

  • @maryseeley9404
    @maryseeley9404 2 дні тому +24

    Women prefer hot guys, they just put up with guys that are not hot if they offer something else.

  • @no.6377
    @no.6377 2 дні тому +81

    Do women _really_ like dad bods? Maybe it's an American thing since there's an obesity epidemic over there. In my country, no one wants to be fat and both men and women will have unsolicited comments about them gaining "a belly" if they start gaining weight. And men get it much more straight forward since they're more blunt with each other. 😥😥
    In fact the men who get the most attention from women are lanky(skinny, tall men). So I guess "rat boy" has been popular for decades now? Definitely since I was a kid in the 2000's.
    But my country is a small, former French colony so.😅😅

    • @winning3329
      @winning3329 2 дні тому +20

      I'm an American woman and I have never been with a male who has a dad b0d.
      NEVER!

    • @WastedBananas
      @WastedBananas 2 дні тому +1

      tunisia?

    • @PraiseTheFSMonster
      @PraiseTheFSMonster 2 дні тому +13

      No, we don't like dad bods. Men just say we do.

    • @NewYasmine-nl9jq
      @NewYasmine-nl9jq 2 дні тому

      I'm from an ex french colony too. Where tf are you from?

  • @baibiebaibea9740
    @baibiebaibea9740 2 дні тому +15

    the one who started the “girls love dad bods” is a psyop LOL

  • @Kyiverdam
    @Kyiverdam 2 дні тому +19

    It can take up to a year for a woman's body to recover from childbirth. These standards are unreasonable.

  • @LinDeGenette
    @LinDeGenette 2 дні тому +22

    The mom bod had me think of "the mom group" a danish comedy where a new mom flees from her husband when she discovered him with the young live-in-nanny. He had her attend a new mom boot camp after birth to loose "the baby fat" in a few weeks afterwards instead of her having time with her baby 😬 and she tried to keep up with his insane demands while being a mom, yet it was not enough. When tragedy becomes comedy or vice versa 💀

  • @olivegoddess1
    @olivegoddess1 2 дні тому +12

    I’m an athletic and fit mid 30s girlie and have been all my life. I surf and rock climb every week. I do HIIT, calisthenics, kettlebell workouts every week. I’m much fitter than most people my age. I love being fit, strong, and the way my body looks is a reflection of that. It’s a natural inclination of mine.
    I’m not into dad bods at all. My man needs to equal my level of athleticism and fitness, if not supersede it.
    Standards.

  • @anutoa888
    @anutoa888 2 дні тому +13

    This is why I love "female gaze" outfits so much. They prioritize comfort and personal expression over accentuating your figure or s*xual appeal like "male gaze" outfits do.

  • @rosannarichardson7951
    @rosannarichardson7951 2 дні тому +13

    Pregnant women are the natural body builders. Keep being strong ladies

  • @elizabethkahn9155
    @elizabethkahn9155 2 дні тому +32

    LOL! I love that perspective, one day we too can have the AUDACITY! 🤣I never thought of it this way. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It is always refreshing to hear people call things out.

  • @dreamchaser7603
    @dreamchaser7603 2 дні тому +48

    It’s great women are noticing that and brining this up. However, nothing will change until you proactively choose to implement your values in real life!! It’s up to every single one of you to raise your standards, draw personal boundaries, fiercely speak your mind and stick to your values!! Don’t ask for males/society’s permission or wait for their initiative to change the norms and standards!!! Don not ever tolerate double standards!!! Ever!!! Stand your ground!!!

    • @paniskorpion66
      @paniskorpion66 2 дні тому +1

    • @peke1822
      @peke1822 2 дні тому +5

      I agree, I don't date down. And I don't worry or care if I don't date at all, its actually more time to myself and my goals

    • @lauren128
      @lauren128 День тому

      @@dreamchaser7603 Thank you for this comment 💖

  • @dominikaludwig7346
    @dominikaludwig7346 2 дні тому +29

    RATAISSANCE

  • @easyteh4getperson
    @easyteh4getperson 2 дні тому +16

    i've overheard foreigners complain that americans dont wear fun or bright colors 😭 like girl, i know but i cant be the only person wearing bright colors.

  • @redgoddess
    @redgoddess 2 дні тому +19

    I am absolutely not into men having pregnant bellies and birthing hips. A.k.a dad bods. No shade on those who like that though.

  • @Mt-kd8gl
    @Mt-kd8gl 2 дні тому +19

    "Ratt-issance" girl you need to warn me, I spat my tea

  • @StefanTaf
    @StefanTaf 2 дні тому +46

    ✨4b✨

    • @Her844
      @Her844 2 дні тому +4

      4b 💅💅

    • @catthatlikesbread
      @catthatlikesbread 2 дні тому

      3b....virgin, ummarried, no kids but I do go on dates sometimes. I don't know if that's a good idea anymore. But interestingly this video dropped right after I thought "I always went on dates with men who are attractive but don't earn a lot and it never worked... maybe I should date men who are unattractive but earn a ton?" now I feel called out 🫠 there's just no winning!!

  • @mymusic6384
    @mymusic6384 День тому +12

    the funniest thing is that women were made to believe that "appearance doesn't matter" when it comes to a man, but a woman must be perfect. Even if they are not supposed to choose attractive men for a relationship, because it has no significance for a woman. Well, it does!

  • @cyb3r_c0re
    @cyb3r_c0re 2 дні тому +29

    on my way to find the audacity, ill update ehen i find it

    • @gracezihalirwa3015
      @gracezihalirwa3015 2 дні тому +1

      Right!!!!! tell us please cuz I’m still processing . To 😮 to speak after this video .

    • @Her844
      @Her844 2 дні тому +2

      Did you find something?

  • @beatricetellier6838
    @beatricetellier6838 2 дні тому +15

    13:38 NGL I'd be so pissed If I showed up to a fancy celebrity event like that with my partner and I spent hours on dressing up in full glam while they show up with whatever tf Justin is wearing in those photos. Like.....come on....

  • @gladitsnotme
    @gladitsnotme 2 дні тому +12

    💯 LET'S DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! I noticed that the main people inventing and pushing these new male beauty standards are women. Female journalists, writers, editors, and influencers. So it will be up to women to do the same for women. The next time I see an article or post about dad bod or whatever, I'm asking the poster to put that same energy into another article for women. Do the little surveys and statistics to boost women's bodies and show that men prefer mom bellies and booties.

  • @ghostinthegraveyard
    @ghostinthegraveyard 2 дні тому +11

    Tod-Bods: what “dad bods” usually are. Toddler tummies and devolving shapes that frighteningly often correspond to the internal devolution (or revelation). I don’t begrudge anyone their natural ageing process, but I feel absolutely free to spread the awareness of desxualization by way of the tod-bod to anyone who earns it 🙌

  • @trixie_nuit
    @trixie_nuit День тому +10

    I'm attracted to men, but I don't find men attractive 😅

  • @Diana734
    @Diana734 2 дні тому +10

    Nah! People that are into Dad bods are delusional.🙄

  • @bbbbellaisbae572
    @bbbbellaisbae572 2 дні тому +19

    Its a hard pill to swallow when you recognize that you've been reared to value your appearance highly. From a young age, my outfits, color of my hair, pimples, belly fat, nails, etc were critiqued heavily by my dad in particular. "A lady looks/behaves/does like THIS, not like that", I was criticized for being a child and looking normal. With a little brother who isn't expected to meet these very female expectations of appearance, behavior, hobbies, and is allowed to be "gross, ugly, normal", so much resentment bubbles up. I look at all of these men who never had to meet these often unobtainable standards that were placed upon me at elementary school age, and I get so angry. Why are you so ugly, unhygenic, inconsiderate, and gross? I never was allowed such privilages, to just be "ugly". I recognize those standards placed upon me were quite high, so its pretty unfortunate that its easy to percieve others as gross or unhygenic when they are literally doing and behaving in a normal way. An example of this is body hair, yes, body hair on women is the most normal thing ever, but for me, long hair on the armpits, legs, activates that knee-jerk reaction of "ew, gross". So with that being said, even for the ladies, its hard to meet those crazy standards of "hygiene", no, those standards are giving obsessive compulsive, and I can't meet all of these standards, it is truly too much. For the MEN??? oh my, vast majority I percieve as truly digusting individuals. This is a problem I'm working through in my personal life, judging people based on appearance, but my oh my, do I hate men for being able to move through the world with the bare minimum of grooming and hygiene, please brush your tongue my friend.😶‍🌫

  • @sunmoonstars0369
    @sunmoonstars0369 2 дні тому +13

    Most of the men over 35+ with dad bods don't have kids or even wives where I live. Explain this one!

  • @LuzVelascoOropeza
    @LuzVelascoOropeza 2 дні тому +46

    Haven't finished watching the video but I wonder if we adapt our taste to whatever men do cause we want to console ourselves that we can't get the chad beautiful man, cause there's so so few of them. So, to feel like we've won, we pretend to like things like rat face and dad bod.

  • @thefurrybunch4071
    @thefurrybunch4071 2 дні тому +16

    I don’t comment a lot but you are one of my favorite creators and I can’t tell you how much you make my day with your content! Keep preaching bestie h❤🎉

  • @IHEARTCOQUETTECLOTHES.777
    @IHEARTCOQUETTECLOTHES.777 2 дні тому +9

    I always wondered why in relationships in media the woman had to be the far more conventionally attractive one in the relationship than the men. Even animals in kids movie the female animals have to be "feminized" or have a oddly "humanish" faces or bodies or when cartoons had a group of female characters they all had the same hour glass figure but the guys bodies all looked very different. Total drama for example. Unattractive women are actually super hated in movies video games etc like its almost seen as offensive even if a woman dares not be beautiful especially in predominantly male spaces its met with extreme backlash. But if we DARE ever bring this up we have to pretend mens beauty standards are just as "high" not trying to be mean ik everyone experiences insecurity but mens looks dont matter as much as womens do im not gonna pretend.

    • @IHEARTCOQUETTECLOTHES.777
      @IHEARTCOQUETTECLOTHES.777 День тому +5

      @@MarioMario-vy4bi i agree video games are mainly male media but even in TV shows or cartoons women are considered troubling and get canceled by alot of groups of dudes cause they aren't "pretty enough" even in cartoons made for kids in general the girls have to be convientually prettier than the dudes.

  • @crystalgonzales4534
    @crystalgonzales4534 День тому +8

    Definitely not. I like a fit slender guy. Who takes care of their health and isn't drinking constantly. I hate drunks. I also go to gym, and not to be the type society wants. I want muscles, and people might thi k I'm starting to look more masculine because I'm getting more biceps and back. Well, that's the look I love on myself. And I don't give a flying f*#$ if people like it or not. Even women comment on muscular women saying they look like men, and that it's disgusting. These people have been brain washed. And get triggered by things that don't affect them what's whoever. I'm done conforming.

    • @minniemoe4797
      @minniemoe4797 13 годин тому +1

      As a gym ghoster, I admire your attitude 👏👏

  • @AsmaYAli
    @AsmaYAli 2 дні тому +21

    First! Elle, I LOVE this community! Xoxo! ♥️

  • @HomemakerDaze
    @HomemakerDaze 2 дні тому +7

    Took me many yrs to get over what many millennial females had to get over, the skinny trends they grew up with! Now at 35 and a mother for awhile I finally started to realise I'm never guna get stick thin again like when I was 12 😅 my bodies been through alot and I actually feel womanly with curves now. I've dated a couple people who like a little more too squeeze so that helped. My son also likes my cozy cuddles. I'm glad I'm not obsessed with food and dieting all day anymore. Also, wear comfy clothes that fit!

  • @liefiscute
    @liefiscute 2 дні тому +53

    Yess queen posted

  • @silentgswag5583
    @silentgswag5583 2 дні тому +10

    I hate dad bods

  • @ThePipishpip
    @ThePipishpip 2 дні тому +7

    I want to know where men are hiding the audacity so I can get some for myself!

  • @bookbutterfly2408
    @bookbutterfly2408 День тому +5

    Dad bods lowkey disgust me...especially if you've been privy to the negative health affects of having a dad bod. Give me a good-looking, well-dressed, muscular, generous man secure in his masculinity who is also kind, intelligent, & an excellent conversationalist! That's my bare minimum, honest to god.

  • @Her844
    @Her844 2 дні тому +7

    Eww who's like "DAD Body"🤢🤮🤮🤮

  • @user-qu5js9vw9o
    @user-qu5js9vw9o День тому +5

    I was literally just thinking I’m gonna start picking the men I like apart in my head the way I do myself and they’ll never be the same

  • @sulhwayuk6228
    @sulhwayuk6228 День тому +5

    okay but why did historical vikings take better care of themselves than a majority of modern day men 😭

  • @lucy-ferprofiler5379
    @lucy-ferprofiler5379 2 дні тому +28

    it's difficult to understand how 1 mental woman with daddy issues declared "dad bod" attractive and it became a thing.

  • @tanyaerickson612
    @tanyaerickson612 2 дні тому +5

    Omg you make me want to take a picture of my paralyzed mom bod for the world to see! After I was in a car accident while 4 months pregnant, I flew 60ft out the passenger windshield. This has to be a movement. All women should watch this video. I can't tell you the relief I feel all of a sudden. I'm no longer letting this pressure get to me! I'd follow your cult lol

  • @cc-by8uk
    @cc-by8uk День тому +5

    I am in the menopause. And yesterday we talked about shape and bodyweight when getting older. I just blurred it out. I do not care how I look. I am done with that. I am not getting paid for being attractive to others. I am paid for my work. I do not care. And everybody looked very stunned at me.

  • @Aashka_The_Mystic
    @Aashka_The_Mystic 2 дні тому +16

    If aliens came to our planet, the men would be doomed lol

  • @coolbreeze5683
    @coolbreeze5683 2 дні тому +7

    Our bodies and health are for ourselves, not for others. If someone gives you a hard time because of your body or looks, tell them to take a hike. There's no use looking for approval from terrible people.
    Karma comes for everyone... those judging you now will eventually go through changes and aging themselves. Since they're shallow people, these changes will be much harder on them.

  • @toastedclosure2770
    @toastedclosure2770 17 годин тому +4

    the amount of rage i had when i watched grown ups by adam sandler, seeing ALL the men in the movie were average / bad looking dudes and ALL of their wives / love interests were these beautiful women and ugghhhhhhh the WHOLE MOVIE IS ABOUT THE GLORIFICATION OF MEN BEING TODDLERS I HATE IT

  • @jointhefun4
    @jointhefun4 2 дні тому +22

    Can we talk about beauty standards and how some of us are struggling with being ugly and never good enough for men