Great riff again! I really look forward to these. You two should really be writing a book combining your wealth of knowledge, humour and great insight into the world of hifi.
Another bit of fun with some serious points, thank you. I can vouch for the fact that the remote will light up for people other than Mike; I have what looks like exactly the same remote for a 2016 Cyrus 8a amp and it lights up for me! The 8a is a nice piece of kit, so I am not surprised that the new one is also. Feet still firmly attached to mine though. But.... my fancy remote has already suffered from plastic decay, making it sticky to the touch. You can't have everything!
Love your guys' energy and dynamic! Thanks so much for the info--the Blade Runner retro-sleeper aesthetics of this amp really has a hold on me! Heard it at my local hifi shop with some Spendor 4/5 speakers and it sounded wonderfully spacious, lifelike, and well-composed. Cheers, subbed, and looking forward to watching more :) Happy holidays!
Great vid….as per usual 😎 The Cyrus one was pretty good with Quad 57s. I had the Cyrus dad7……the PSX transformed it. Definitely took it to another level
I heard the Cyrus i9 at the Bristol show, and while that was hardly the best environment to listen, I thought it sounded fantastic. I heard them adding the dedicated PSU and the difference was marked and a significant improvement over what was already a great sound. The mix of Auralic, Cyrus and Spendor was the highlight of the day for me.
i still have all my amps from when i was 17. Cyrus One + PSX, II, III and V. Now I listen with 2x Cyrus Power both with a PSX-R, running as monoblocks connected with balanced XLR. I very much like the sound they put out.
@@itisjustacomment haha, niether. I bought the Cyrus One 55 quid, the outer casing was broken and it did'nt turn on after the last owner dropped it. After some testing and soldering it was ok, still working to this day.
This is the best episode you guys have done to date. Hilarious - and FYI, I love that t-shirt!!! The "Ting" makes it a work of genius. Oh, and at the risk of repeating myself: Subdivisions is the greatest song Rush ever wrote 🤘 Kudos gents!!
Thanks Nige, but please don't encourage Mike with his T-shirt. The Camera Eye for me, then Red Barchetta, then Spirit - but Subdivisions is probably 4th. Genius, as you say.
I love a little 'small talk" each day. lol....You guys have great synergy in your your shows and a bit of a somewhat restrained enthusiasm that is "very British" Lol..and fun to watch in action I just purchased this very Cyrus DAC/Preamp to integrate with the rest of my av kit. An audio reviewer did a vid on UA-cam of his top favorites high-end favorites DACs. He mentioned that this model was discontinued and that there are many available for sale ...at deep discounted prices in the used audio marketplace. He said to grab one along with the Cyrus upgraded power source. I bought both products used, in😅 great shape & well nearly 60 % off the original MSRP. The latest generation Cyrus DACs/Streamers,/Amos, etc have already launched.
I have a Cyrus 8 QX and the seperate power supply. The QX means the DAC is upgraded from the standard one. I like the performance of this amp, I also like that it has a zone 2 output which is a feature that has been removed from the new ones. I’m using the Bluesound Node as a streaming transport streaming Tidal. I do have a bit of an upgrade bug and tempted to get a new amp but I don’t know what to try. Given I’m happy with what I have I probably shouldn’t bother. I have considered a new series 2 Michi 3 but yet to listen to one.
Oh my giddy aunt! You two were absolutely on fire in this Riff. Tears of laughter this end, especially when David says 'Mike, run your fingers along the RCA sockets' - which sounds rather risque when said the way David said it. Maybe its just the way my mind works. And Mike is not just a Socket Botherer, he also has a foot fetish. Or were you playing Footloose? Good to see you back in the shed, by the way. Right, I'm off to play Hemispheres...
Thanks Geoff, I'm not really a natural in front of the camera - unlike Mike, who is hi-fi's answer to Dickie Davies - but I'm beginning to relax and enjoy myself more now. Hence me being ruder to Mike. And you're right by the way, I think he unscrewed that foot deliberately so he could fiddle with it during the show. I do worry about him, sometimes.
Small talk on a big stuff. I love Cyruss. I have a 8XPD -QX . Psx=R and Dynaudio Xcite Is This a Classic AMP . without the DAC??? I am confused and there are lot of amps Updated in many machines.
For some reason I have the subtitle of the Hifi Answers review (Alvin Gold?) of the Mission Cyrus 1 engraved in my memory : 'Sweet as a Nut'. I never heard one, but that doesn't quite agree with your characterisation of it as 'Shouty'.
Hi Martin - It was a bit bass-light, and especially when you turned it up, it could sound 'well lit'. The Cyrus 2 was more balanced, especially with the PSX - quite neutral, actually. Knowing Alvin as I did, he didn't listen to hard, fast rock music much so perhaps didn't pick up on this, but it could have been down to any number of things, such as his source (likely a Linn LP12) at the time, and/or his speakers. Both Cyruses were certainly sweeter than the (then) favoured Julian Vereker-era Naim amps.
Yes, the company was started by Farad Azima in the mid seventies. He began with the 770 speaker and then a pre-power amplifier combo, then the 778, and then the Mission Cyrus 1 and 2 circa 1983. Cyrus then split off from Mission around 1990, IIRC, with Mission going on to its golden generation of affordable speakers (752, 760, 780). That's when the Cyrus 3 integrated came out, which was the direct ancestor of the Classic AMP.
Hi both, loving the content and premise...two old stagers 'chewing the fat, sharing the love'. 😉 Might I ask your opinion/advice? I own a pair of Raymond Lumley M-75 valve monoblocs used to drive my Magnepan 3.6/R speakers. I love them; their sonorous midrange augmented by 2 SVS SB1000 subs is magical. I cannot seem to find any information on them (beyond a short Ken Kessler review, as a result of a Google search)...can you possibly shed any light; any knowledge or experience of such?
I seem to remember Stereophile reviewing them back in 2000, or thereabouts. What can one say about Magnepan? They are amazing but flawed, and pigs to drive, but capable of magic. I've heard most (but not all) over the years. Ideally they need an amp with power and load-driving ability, plus a fairly bright source and supertweeters. There's a big drop in the midband and treble, and you need to work around this. When I tried the LRS+ I used Townshend Maximum supertweeters, and moved to my Lyra Dorian moving coil cartridge which has a clearly rising treble. This seemed to balance them out and get the best from them. The 3.6/Rs are lovely, but quite unlike almost all other speakers on sale and an acquired taste. I for one have acquired it!
@@MrVinylista - many thanks for the response, it's fully appreciated 👍. My (poorly structured) query was actually about the Lumley's - do you have any knowledge or experience of these?
I realised that as soon as we finished the recording... You can see I wasn't sure. Ironically, I love gup, it's a brilliant album. I will get a gup tattoo as a penance! Mike
It has a piddling little 3.5mm headphone socket (on the back!) and no USB input to connect up a laptop/PC/Mac and for that reason I'm out. Love the Rush tee shirt!
I'm sorry about my previous message i'm sure this amp sounds great and maybe i'm old school but IMHO cramming everything but the Kitchen sink into such a small chassis must compromised overall sound quantity at that price point, i'm like Mike a million separate boxes each with their own function is the best way too go for sound quality IMHO
My Cyrus 8 doesn’t seem to comprise sound output at all. I’m frequently blown away with what comes out of that box. Mind you it can get hot, I’ve installed 2 fans behind it to cool it off when needed.
Outsourced to SMS Electronics in Nottingham. Incidentally did anyone else notice that the logo for the "Made in Britain" start up screen was exactly the same as the symbol used by the British Conservative party in the 1970s?
Had a full system , 2 power , 2 power supply , pre , cd , Had to for years then my home got broken into and all of it went . Cost me thousands lucky i got insurance im rebuilding but not to degree . Loved that set up easy to upgrade and the first amp i had without the fizz noise . Shame
Rega ElexR has the same stat- 90 watts into 6ohms. I think because Rega speakers are 6ohm rated? Still- i agree. I wouldnt run down street...er, for anything at this point.
You guys are on fire this week. A great laugh and very entertaining.
Great riff again! I really look forward to these.
You two should really be writing a book combining your wealth of knowledge, humour and great insight into the world of hifi.
Another bit of fun with some serious points, thank you. I can vouch for the fact that the remote will light up for people other than Mike; I have what looks like exactly the same remote for a 2016 Cyrus 8a amp and it lights up for me!
The 8a is a nice piece of kit, so I am not surprised that the new one is also. Feet still firmly attached to mine though.
But.... my fancy remote has already suffered from plastic decay, making it sticky to the touch. You can't have everything!
Love your guys' energy and dynamic! Thanks so much for the info--the Blade Runner retro-sleeper aesthetics of this amp really has a hold on me! Heard it at my local hifi shop with some Spendor 4/5 speakers and it sounded wonderfully spacious, lifelike, and well-composed. Cheers, subbed, and looking forward to watching more :) Happy holidays!
What we need is a Riff of David’s attic!!!! 😂🍺 Thanks for a great show/riff as usual 👍🙏🏻
All got a bit too technical for me when it got to ''the feets are adjustable''
You and me both. Mike showing off his great grasp of mechanical engineering, again...
@@MrVinylista I guess he was in a bit of a Rush? He does ocasionally get a Rush of blood to the head and Rush into things,
Great vid….as per usual 😎
The Cyrus one was pretty good with Quad 57s.
I had the Cyrus dad7……the PSX transformed it. Definitely took it to another level
I heard the Cyrus i9 at the Bristol show, and while that was hardly the best environment to listen, I thought it sounded fantastic. I heard them adding the dedicated PSU and the difference was marked and a significant improvement over what was already a great sound. The mix of Auralic, Cyrus and Spendor was the highlight of the day for me.
Thanks Richard, this tallies with Mike's comments. Annoyingly, I wasn't able to spend any real time hearing Cyrus at Bristol - wish I'd had more time.
i still have all my amps from when i was 17.
Cyrus One + PSX, II, III and V.
Now I listen with 2x Cyrus Power both with a PSX-R, running as monoblocks connected with balanced XLR.
I very much like the sound they put out.
you had a good job at 17 ? Or rich partners .
@@itisjustacomment haha, niether. I bought the Cyrus One 55 quid, the outer casing was broken and it did'nt turn on after the last owner dropped it. After some testing and soldering it was ok, still working to this day.
@meshachturpin3988 I wish I could find buys like that , I guess it's the risk of buying with damage .
Great work
David's attic could be a whole YT channel in itself.
But is there a DNM Gem up there? Curious minds want to know.
@@kenlyon8285 Sadly not, Ken.
Location looks right again
This is the best episode you guys have done to date. Hilarious - and FYI, I love that t-shirt!!! The "Ting" makes it a work of genius. Oh, and at the risk of repeating myself: Subdivisions is the greatest song Rush ever wrote 🤘 Kudos gents!!
Thanks Nige, but please don't encourage Mike with his T-shirt.
The Camera Eye for me, then Red Barchetta, then Spirit - but Subdivisions is probably 4th. Genius, as you say.
@@MrVinylista We need photographic evidence of Mike at the gig wearing the t-shirt proudly whilst air-drumming along to YYZ!
@@NigeSavage Seconded. Mike, don't forget to take a selfie for us. "Conform or be cast out!"
Thirded. Photos, or it never happened 😀
photos.app.goo.gl/4yht5LCx3af1wPow7
I love a little
'small talk" each day. lol....You guys have great synergy in your your shows and a bit of a somewhat restrained enthusiasm that is "very British" Lol..and fun to watch in action
I just purchased this very Cyrus DAC/Preamp to integrate with the rest of my av kit.
An audio reviewer did a vid on UA-cam of his top favorites high-end favorites DACs. He mentioned that this model was discontinued and that there are many available for sale ...at deep discounted prices in the used audio marketplace. He said to grab one along with the Cyrus upgraded power source.
I bought both products used, in😅 great shape & well nearly 60 % off the original MSRP.
The latest generation Cyrus DACs/Streamers,/Amos, etc have already launched.
I had a cyrus3 with mission 733i floor standing speakers,fantastic combination
I have a Cyrus 8 QX and the seperate power supply. The QX means the DAC is upgraded from the standard one. I like the performance of this amp, I also like that it has a zone 2 output which is a feature that has been removed from the new ones. I’m using the Bluesound Node as a streaming transport streaming Tidal.
I do have a bit of an upgrade bug and tempted to get a new amp but I don’t know what to try. Given I’m happy with what I have I probably shouldn’t bother. I have considered a new series 2 Michi 3 but yet to listen to one.
Oh my giddy aunt! You two were absolutely on fire in this Riff. Tears of laughter this end, especially when David says 'Mike, run your fingers along the RCA sockets' - which sounds rather risque when said the way David said it. Maybe its just the way my mind works.
And Mike is not just a Socket Botherer, he also has a foot fetish. Or were you playing Footloose?
Good to see you back in the shed, by the way.
Right, I'm off to play Hemispheres...
So Deezer has the 'Ting' at 2:36, my CD has it at 2:34, and my vinyl just has a couple of pops around about that time... 😀
Thanks Geoff, I'm not really a natural in front of the camera - unlike Mike, who is hi-fi's answer to Dickie Davies - but I'm beginning to relax and enjoy myself more now. Hence me being ruder to Mike. And you're right by the way, I think he unscrewed that foot deliberately so he could fiddle with it during the show. I do worry about him, sometimes.
1984 it's Grace Under Pressure!! Cheers Rush fans everywhere!
Positively embarrassed. Shows it's live though!
Mike
@@mikeyevs Love the humor and your authenticity! Respect and greetings from Greece!
Great stuff lads
Small talk on a big stuff. I love Cyruss. I have a 8XPD -QX . Psx=R and Dynaudio Xcite
Is This a Classic AMP . without the DAC??? I am confused and there are lot of amps Updated in many machines.
For some reason I have the subtitle of the Hifi Answers review (Alvin Gold?) of the Mission Cyrus 1 engraved in my memory : 'Sweet as a Nut'. I never heard one, but that doesn't quite agree with your characterisation of it as 'Shouty'.
Hi Martin - It was a bit bass-light, and especially when you turned it up, it could sound 'well lit'. The Cyrus 2 was more balanced, especially with the PSX - quite neutral, actually. Knowing Alvin as I did, he didn't listen to hard, fast rock music much so perhaps didn't pick up on this, but it could have been down to any number of things, such as his source (likely a Linn LP12) at the time, and/or his speakers. Both Cyruses were certainly sweeter than the (then) favoured Julian Vereker-era Naim amps.
I was hoping for this review of the Classic. Question, were Mission Cyrus and Mission Speakers ever part of the same company? Thanks.
Of course.
Yes, the company was started by Farad Azima in the mid seventies. He began with the 770 speaker and then a pre-power amplifier combo, then the 778, and then the Mission Cyrus 1 and 2 circa 1983. Cyrus then split off from Mission around 1990, IIRC, with Mission going on to its golden generation of affordable speakers (752, 760, 780). That's when the Cyrus 3 integrated came out, which was the direct ancestor of the Classic AMP.
Hi both, loving the content and premise...two old stagers 'chewing the fat, sharing the love'. 😉 Might I ask your opinion/advice? I own a pair of Raymond Lumley M-75 valve monoblocs used to drive my Magnepan 3.6/R speakers. I love them; their sonorous midrange augmented by 2 SVS SB1000 subs is magical. I cannot seem to find any information on them (beyond a short Ken Kessler review, as a result of a Google search)...can you possibly shed any light; any knowledge or experience of such?
I seem to remember Stereophile reviewing them back in 2000, or thereabouts.
What can one say about Magnepan? They are amazing but flawed, and pigs to drive, but capable of magic. I've heard most (but not all) over the years.
Ideally they need an amp with power and load-driving ability, plus a fairly bright source and supertweeters. There's a big drop in the midband and treble, and you need to work around this.
When I tried the LRS+ I used Townshend Maximum supertweeters, and moved to my Lyra Dorian moving coil cartridge which has a clearly rising treble. This seemed to balance them out and get the best from them.
The 3.6/Rs are lovely, but quite unlike almost all other speakers on sale and an acquired taste. I for one have acquired it!
@@MrVinylista - many thanks for the response, it's fully appreciated 👍. My (poorly structured) query was actually about the Lumley's - do you have any knowledge or experience of these?
@@MrSidMuff Sorry Sid, no I don't.
1984 was Grace Under Pressure. Power Windows was 1985.
I realised that as soon as we finished the recording... You can see I wasn't sure.
Ironically, I love gup, it's a brilliant album.
I will get a gup tattoo as a penance!
Mike
It has a piddling little 3.5mm headphone socket (on the back!) and no USB input to connect up a laptop/PC/Mac and for that reason I'm out. Love the Rush tee shirt!
Both fair points!
Mike
All the Cyrus have the headphone socket on the back. It’s ridiculous, I don’t have a hope of finding mine with all the cables plugged into the back.
@@aussie8114 Yes, it's a stupid design decision.
I'm sorry about my previous message i'm sure this amp sounds great and maybe i'm old school but IMHO cramming everything but the Kitchen sink into such a small chassis must compromised overall sound quantity at that price point, i'm like Mike a million separate boxes each with their own function is the best way too go for sound quality IMHO
My Cyrus 8 doesn’t seem to comprise sound output at all. I’m frequently blown away with what comes out of that box. Mind you it can get hot, I’ve installed 2 fans behind it to cool it off when needed.
They continuing to be manufactured in the UK and not China so that makes them exceptional .
Outsourced to SMS Electronics in Nottingham. Incidentally did anyone else notice that the logo for the "Made in Britain" start up screen was exactly the same as the symbol used by the British Conservative party in the 1970s?
Why dosnt dave drink on his own pristine cream couch😂
Nooo.. Rush - Signals was 1982. A great album and the first cd i bought.
There's really a TING! 🙂
Had a full system , 2 power , 2 power supply , pre , cd ,
Had to for years then my home got broken into and all of it went . Cost me thousands lucky i got insurance im rebuilding but not to degree .
Loved that set up easy to upgrade and the first amp i had without the fizz noise .
Shame
Gutted... what a nightmare!
Grace Under Pressure 1984
Thank you. It had been a long day. Inexcusable for us to get our Rush LP release dates muddled!
I know... Brilliant album too.
Unforgivable!
Mike
@@mikeyevs I think Mike has lost the right to wear his 'Ting' T-shirt!
@@MrVinylista you are soo jealous!
@@mikeyevs Wouldn't be seen dead wearing that rubbish.
Rega ElexR has the same stat- 90 watts into 6ohms. I think because Rega speakers are 6ohm rated? Still- i agree. I wouldnt run down street...er, for anything at this point.
These two are piling on the pounds. 😂