Hey, come to my state (TX) and you'll see FOUR cylinder GMC trucks selling for an obscene $47-55K. And they keep the inventory on the Canyon/ Chevrolet Colorado low to inflate the prices as much as possible. I've even seen a Canyon priced at $61,000! Just despicable. WHEN are these stealerships going to bankrupt themselves?? It makes no sense. They're not selling and lot rot is real. Looking at these trucks, they were SO filthy that I couldn't see the interior through the windows.
That pisses me off on the vin etch! I literally drove my charger up to an o Reilly’s in Birmingham Alabama. They asked me if I’d like my vins etched on all my windows. I asked how much???? IT WAS FREE!!
This dealer’s got a full inventory of 2024 Mopar Lot Rot Edition vehicles! Come back and see them next year when the dealer add-ons will include a box of De-Con under the hood to keep the mice from setting up shop behind the dash! 🤪
Let them fail...We bailed the Automotive industry out in 2008' and this is what they do to the consumers that the tax money came from... Greed is a horrible disease.
I don’t know why they would want to sell them. I enjoy riding by and looking at all the different colors. Besides I think they look way better on the lot than they would in my driveway against my bank account.
They all are they going down just like tha pale mutant's who burn in nature and think theirs something special about them they being booted off lands they don't belong
Dude today I went into a dodge dealer that has a hellcat durango coming in, silverbullet. Msrp is 115, there is 11k off msrp incentives right now so I offered 100k for it. Answer was nope, I asked are you willing to deal on price, nope. I said this company is on the verge of failing and a customer comes in and offers 100k for a durango and you say no!! They were rude as well. When they seen . Me get in my 2021 hellcat one guy rushed out to stop me. I went in with work clothes on looking a little rough. Wow
GOOD for You, These Guy's have to Start respecting hard working people again, Those Who actually pay the Bills, Not some So called fake rich UA-camrs with Covid money, Those Days are GONE ❗It's a Disgrace already.
Visited my local dealership today. Saw a 2023 Widebody Challenger T/A Widebody $68000, no markups tho, no sunroof either. Almost 3 years old, seriously? 😵
I remember back in early 2018. I went to East Hills Jeep Dodge Chrysler with my checkbook in hand, asking about the Trackhawks. He told me they wanted $30,000 over sticker. I LAUGHED AND LEFT. For the next year, they say on lots and languished while I made fun of them on UA-cam with my "count the Trackhawks" videos. I knew back then that this day was coming. Chrysler is dead. SRT is dead. The V8 is dead. They have nothing left to sell, and their reliability/ service is trash. The introduction of the overpriced EV models will be the final nail in their coffin.
@@LongIslandMopars True story: I also went there for a 2012 Chrysler 300 SRT. They wouldn’t make a deal with me on my 2006 SRT8 to trade. Would you believe that I was about to leave and I looked across the street at Penn Toyota and saw the tail end of a 2012 Chrysler 300 srt. I thought it was used so I went over to ask about it and found out that it was brand new and it even had less miles than the one that was in the Chrysler dealer. I bought that car that day. Then I drove it back to Chrysler, shook the manager’s hand and smugly said: “too bad we couldn’t make a deal” and then I left grinning my ass off. I actually made a video about it.
@@PassportBrosBusinessClass It's so sad. My dad bought his one and only new car, a 1966 Dodge Coronet 500 SE from Helms Brothers Dodge in Bayside in September of that year. It was a leftover so he got a deal on it. He loved his Chrysler Corporation, known as "the engineering company" back then. He drove that car regularly until he retired in the mid-1990s, then only as a weekend warrior until his passing over a decade ago. It's now in my garage with 207k miles on it. Best $2600 he ever spent. 😎
I live in Oklahoma, and they're still doing the same things. No cuts in prices, except what they show on the internet. Then they get you at the dealership. Tires for life, engines for life, etc. Garbage you know they're not going to honor.
@@chupacabraracing181scat pack charges were selling for 39-43k all day a few years ago only the ghetto rats pay 60k for a scat cloth interior etc lmao oh and low iq morons as well as
Maserati , Lamborghini, Bugatti, Aston Martin …. Dodge, Jeep ?? Hmmm 🤔 Which expensive exotic vehicle should I spend my lottery winnings on? 😎 💰💰 😂🤪😜🤣now my sides hurt from laughing 😂🥲😅
It's absolutely retarded for these stealerships to think Jeep is on the same luxury level as Range Rover. I've been to a car show last year and the Wranglers all had the same tired old interior they've been putting inside for the last 3 years. Plus they felt old. When a vehicle is a current model year and feels old, it's time to stop shoving out the same crap year after year. Jeep Wrangler owners are the silliest fanboys I've ever met...
*Be carefully buying any CDJR product, once they sell it to you when the dealers go out of business soon after you'll be stuck with a car you cannot get warranty service on. Good luck!*
Blows my mind I bought my first Jeep Wrangler YJ back in Sept. Of 1993 as a 94 model for $14,762.86 out the door and they were Much thicker steel back then. And to see the prices now blows my fricken mind!!!! Sad the Greed 😠 😡 😤
It doesn't matter. My dumb father bought a '23 RAM last year because he's afraid they'll raise them even higher so I know he overpaid. I warned him not to but he did it anyway.
@@raymondreiff8170the manufacturers raised prices because after the 2020 stimulus packages people were willing to overpay at dealerships and manufacturers wanted a bite of the cake
They are doing the same thing in metro detroit. The dealers are used to selling to employees so non employees are expected to make up the difference on employee sales less profit.
last week i bought a new 2024 Durango RT sticker at 71,500.00 for 15K dollar discount plus added 2K more to my trade in. Also same day bought a 2024 new Rubicon X sticker 71,400.00 for 11.5K off plus added 2K more to my trade in. The Durango been sitting since February and the Rubicon since June.
@@OriginalBadRobotz i was very happy with the prices. plus the Rubicon has 0% interest 3 years. the Durango was 5.9% 5yr. try and pay that one off asap
I drove out of the city to a rural Chevrolet dealer and got a great deal on crewcab diesel. A little over $50K they had a lot of rebates to bring it down. Toss in the trade-in and I am very happy. So you are correct, some are living in the past and some get it and want the inventory gone.
I bought a brand new 2013 Dodge Challenger SXT with the 5 spoke cladded chrome RT wheels for 25k out the door. I know that is 11 years ago but to see a V6 Challenger for 50k is insane.
Still own my '83 CJ 7, with the manual 4 speed, theft deterrent device, love the 258 inline 6. I purchased it my senior year in high school. $8300, with hard and rag top. At least once a year I have to roll into a Jeep dealer to see what the current models look like. Then it's time to ask, where are the manuals at..........it takes how long to remove the top!!
🙂🙂🙂 I had a '77 Jeep CJ5 with factory V8, I loved that old Jeep, one of the vehicles I regret selling... along with my '70 Cuda I sold for $1500 way back when. I would actually buy an old school Jeep without all the plastic and screens and junk, if it was reasonably priced. Considering buying a body from MJ Juan and a frame and adding my own running gear.🙂🙂🙂
Current restoration project '77 CJ5 with 304 V8, bought it 2020 in Marion, SC. I can remember J C Witney selling the fiberglass replacement body and doors. Easy to tell a fiberglass tube, the rear gate / spare tire mount won't swing or drop.
@@johnharbaugh9471Yeah they sell full metal bodys out of the Philippines I think... everything from CJ2A's up to mid eighties CJ's quality is pretty good too.. Can't beat original, but in my area any originals are long gone to rust.
Premier are one of those Nationwide Dealerships !! I can get a Rubicon 4x4 here locally MSRP is $63,365 Sales Prices is $55,449 Now at Premier the one you showed here has a Rubicon 4x4 MSRP is $61,965 their sales prices is $58,965 so -$3000 off MSRP vs my Local Dealer -$8,186 off MSRP I am so glad we have a honest dealer in our local community !!! Probably get it for way less...
My daughter bought a Jeep Compass in 2019. She argued with car salesmen for a week to get what she wanted for the price she wanted. They all told her she would never get it for that. When she got it for under 20K, she sent a picture of herself standing beside the car, to every sales person who told her it was impossible, 😂. One guy sent her a message back that said “ Thank God ! “
I’ve been looking to buy for months and get a heavy duty Ram truck. They are all made in Saltillo Mexico 🇲🇽! Specifically a Diesel to tow with, and a 50 gallon tank. Most lots have short beds with 31 gallon tanks, sun roofs, chrome everything, tiny 17” rims, huge tv style screens. This is why you don’t let city slickers who sell trucks determine what your options are. Imagine 13 mpg 6.4 hemi gets 7-9 mpg towing and you have a 31 gallon tank.
Does anyone know what the dealers cost on these cars actually is? Stellantis screwed them over by charging SO much for the cars that I'm thinking they really can't drop prices and take the loss. But the floor plan also has to be eating them alive. Not a good time to be a Dodge dealer eh?
“That’s with add-ons besides any rebates or…” That’s exactly the problem, the dealer pushed the goal post up, and will now be taking those rebates to “buy down” the addendums. They’re keeping all of these rebates! No intention of selling sh*t!!!
MSRP with a 2k addendum. Remember the big highlighter green rear view mirror dlr SALE signs? That’s what all these dlrs need with a -30,000.00 on the top!
I’m so glad the FTC rules and laws state that paying for the add ons is optional. Just with till F&I to tell them “by law I don’t have to pay this and I want the charges removed. Make your deal with the front then take off all the charges in the back.
So I have just left a dealer in an area of Florida that just reopened after a hurricane. They have a 21 Scat that has 35k on it, it looks dirty but has been hidden safely in a raised parking garage so it did not get flooded. They are asking 42k plus 4k in dealer addendum nonsense. I offered 35k all in cash tonight, the manager basically told me he would rather send it to auction and risk a loss then sell it to me. By the way this is a freaking Honda Dealership not Dodge. There is something about these Scat Packs and Hellcats that is making these dealers lose their minds. I don't quite understand what it is, but I believe its cultural. Because these cars are so coveted by the street outlaw scene and music artists, the dealers seem to forget these kids cannot afford to buy cars like this but people that can like me they let walk out the door for some reason. I have given up on dealerships for the widebody Scat Pack I want. I will end up buying one fron a private owner if at all.
Dodge dealships have called 2 separate friends to bring their old rams in for trade-ins. And they have offered peanuts for you to trade up to a new ram. After trade in there asking $1,400 cdn a month for a mid tear ram.
My local Dodge and ram dealer has brand new Ram 2500/3500 laramies, limiteds, etc with a $1500 dealer discount but there's a $2000 markup on the MSRP because of tint and some other scam things. Absolutely ridiculous and they've been on their lot for months on end.
Brother you should be commended for exposing those shyster dealerships. They keep those addendum stickers on the cars hoping that some sucker walks in and pays the mark-ups
My guess is the high cost is built in because The Customers are expected to pay up front for all of the Low Quality parts used in these Vehicles because someone has to pay for the recalled part's, Now that Stallatis has Pissed off the parts supplier's, Who even does this?
Just saw a '23 Ram 1500, pretty loaded, with 43 miles...and an "On sale" for $61+K. Two years old, 0 interest, and they think they'll get anywhere near that? No bank, credit union, or financial institution is going to grant loans on "New" 2 or more year old POS. I don't care, I don't need a vehicle and really won't for years to come if need be.
They had that crap on as a bargaining tool, once you’re negotiating, they end up giving you that stuff and make you feel like you’re getting a great deal. When all they’re really trying to do is sell you the vehicle at the price it was when it came into the lot!
this is why you shop from home, havent been to a dealeship unless picking up a car in 10 years.....everything online, go in to sign and take delivery just purchased an new SLT 2500 Dmax for 8k under few weeks ago....great experience, was at dealer maybe 45 min
There are a TON of automotive dealers out there holding prices hoping for more interest rate drops to make the cars 'affordable'. There are plenty of places in the US you can still buy a brand new 2022 vehicle. The automotive industry is still a long ways from rock bottom and there are no signs of a recovery.
Months ago gt were being sold for about 28k and rt for about 35k. OC actually did a video on a dealership near me and shortly afterwards they and many dealerships lowered prices, the dealerships I was watching sold the model/trim I wanted
From my understanding the prices won’t be reflected until probably February because wholesale purchase on these current ones was higher than the next wholesale purchase
I'm an old Dodge man like my dad was but there is no reason for me to patronize the company anymore. Not until its leadership changes and their dealers become franchises that I would want to go to.
LET EM ROT DODGE ISNT EVEN RELEVANT ANYMORE. It was a FAD except 700 hp isn’t anything cool anymore when there are better cars with less hp that will gap these
That has been my strategy for a while now, I own a pickup out right, because everyone needs a pickup, and if I need a nice car for special purpose I rent one.
Add all that crap on and you have a hard time dealer trading. I had an aftermarket business before. I would spec out vehicles for dealers (dress them up and get paid when the vehicle sold). Sometimes customers would ask why the dealer is selling the same thing as me for so much more money.
With the costs of the cars and trucks, you can put down a good down payment on a house, that will probably go up in value. Just remember, that when you drive a new vechical off the lot, it will depreciate about 20%.
at my dodge dealership they are asking $37k for a used rt with 60k miles and another one for the same price but it has 10k miles.. good luck trying to sell those. (i want a rt though! Saving up for one atm)
Hey Brad I saw something today I don't know whether it's weather CGI or whether it's real but it claims to be real a new Chrysler 300 you might want to investigate that with your great skills
It's not even the prices - it's the horrendous quality that's the kicker in my book. 2022-2024 CDJR models clogging the service departments. Techs can't keep up. No wonder they're going under.
I bought a 2023 challenger scat pack TA this month for 46k with 500 miles on it, sold from the new dealership to the used dealership to get it gone. Exactly what you're saying, is happening in Maryland. Killer deals. Though I will say, they offered me yuck for my 2020 Ram 1500 Limited trade in.
One of the problems (and not the only one) is that the American public is still being gaslit in to believing we still have a healthy economy; and that must be true because the stock market is up …right? So, these dealerships are still using the business model from the COVID era, but with everything happening right now, they WILL change.
@@cdaway2024 Sure, but “they” will attribute the increase to anything except the truth and the majority of the public, being the sheep they are will accept that this is just the way things are. The general public is only interested in “bread and games”. Also, typing in all capitals letters should be avoided unless you are actual yelling.
You think in US they would want to sell them, OS market dried up years ago. Just in a small market like Australia Jeep went from 20,000, 7 years ago to maybe 2,000 this year. If they’re lucky.
Can someone explain this to me (as someone with an economics degree who works in the automotive industry)? I understand supply and demand, but this seems like the opposite. Why would you mark up cars that already aren’t selling? It has a whiff of some sort of scam, but maybe a manager has just been given the completely wrong incentives.
In regards to the price/addendums he says "we can work it out" and what he fails to realize is that people are sick and tired of trying to negotiate, haggle and play hard ball with these stealers to attempt get a fair deal. Nobody wants to sit and pull teeth, it's ridiculous who wants to be taken for a ride in their overpriced junk with markups/addons that don't even matter. These stealers are just outright crooks. On a sidenote we were stuck with Jeep Grand Cherokee hybrid recently as a rental. It felt like a chintzy rattle trap and the engine sounded like an 80's g.m. four banger wide open when you had to step on the peddle to get it moving.. at around $60k for something like that brand new there is just NO WAY! Over the last week I saw two of them sitting on the side of the highway with their flashers on.. broke down.. I don't know but it makes me wonder. I remember the Grand Cherokees of the 90's into the early 2000's that were almost like tanks, people would drive the wheels off of them for a couple of decades at least. How is any of the new throw away stuff good for the environment when it is such low quality and it most likely won't last half as long as the stuff built 30 years ago??
Rydell Jeep in the San Fernando Valley, Calif is giving some fair discounts from 6k to 10K depending on the model. Check them on line, I'd like to hear your opinion.
Good gawd. There are fools who will pay that price but lucky for them the bank won’t finance it due to not enough income or not enough down payment. The buyers are long gone. Their next strategy is to cut supply so much that it will only be a few fools left who will pay this price
"No, I don't have addendums anymore", "The sticker is right here for $3500 worth of junk", "Oh, I see what you mean". SMH - MSRP/MSRP+ is OVER. I am leaving immediately if the price I see on the internet is not the price I see on the lot. What makes dealers think we would enjoy to negotiate not paying for something I did not ask for? If these products were so great they would sell themselves, correct? SELL it to me, don't negotiate it to me! I believe in the information age that we are in now being a car salesman takes much more effort then theses guys are putting into the job. How many of us have gone shopping and have known more about the product than the person that is trying to sell it to you? I mean, have the same internet you have. YOU surf the net. YOU find out what the competition is doing. YOU match the price. Not a knock on Nestor necessarily, I don't know him. His hands probably are tied. Oh well, this is were we find ourselves, Good video Brad. Thank You.
I've met a lot of recent Salemens who are convinced add-ons are expected and MSRP is a dream deal. None of them have been in the game for more than a few years.
The dealers are now like the mafia Listen to the sales guy, hey we can work something out. I have a 2017 dodge challenger sxt plus I bought in 22, for 29 grand It has 36,000 I love my car more then anything and feel honored to have her. Especially now when these cars, these beautiful cars are just rotting on lots It's heartbreaking 💔
I bought a jeep last year at 30k. My bank would not pay more. Banks won't loan on something twice the price of its actual value. Take 50% off those prices and they will be close to actual value. And we will not buy any more vehicles until the prices drop dramatically.
If you see this and your considering or wanting a new vehicle just wait wait til November 2025 and see how the market is and until then just buy cars for like 2-5k that way you have no auto loan debt and tbh older vehicles are easy to work on especially if its a 90s-01 model and if it breaks its easy and cheap to get another or fix
58K for that BOTTOM of the barrel v6 Etorque ram!! Its insane! That grey one is like bottom of the line... ONE step above a work truck and has the little v6 , and they want 58? They are out of their minds here.
they can’t be serious with these prices. it’s like they have no intention of selling them
All CDJR dealerships are open air museums you can walk on to the lot and enjoy a time in history when reasonable men where still in charge of mopar.
They suk dik like Stellantis. I’ll be buying a Lexus soon. I’m done with Chrysler, more sad days ahead
@@RockStarKidsMom Because of you, thousands lose their jobs every year
@@SauloMogiNo V8, no sale...it's just that simple 🤷♂️
@@RockStarKidsMom like the new GX550 overtrail over the grand Cherokee 4Xe trail hawk the best off-road
This salesman had nothing to say. He couldn’t even defend what his bosses are doing.
They’re just hoping for some sucker to come in and pay the inflated price!
@11:30 $50k for a V6 is insane, in my opinion .
Hey, come to my state (TX) and you'll see FOUR cylinder GMC trucks selling for an obscene $47-55K. And they keep the inventory on the Canyon/ Chevrolet Colorado low to inflate the prices as much as possible. I've even seen a Canyon priced at $61,000! Just despicable. WHEN are these stealerships going to bankrupt themselves?? It makes no sense. They're not selling and lot rot is real. Looking at these trucks, they were SO filthy that I couldn't see the interior through the windows.
Evil, is more like it.
@@largol33t1 Wow!
@@Mr_57ChargerRT nasty work, $50k for a basic V6 challenger egregious.
@@butleroferic1135 but... It's got all wheel drive XD
That pisses me off on the vin etch! I literally drove my charger up to an o Reilly’s in Birmingham Alabama. They asked me if I’d like my vins etched on all my windows. I asked how much???? IT WAS FREE!!
This dealer’s got a full inventory of 2024 Mopar Lot Rot Edition vehicles! Come back and see them next year when the dealer add-ons will include a box of De-Con under the hood to keep the mice from setting up shop behind the dash! 🤪
For a small added on deterrent fee of $2,799.99
Between Stellantis' mismanagement and the dealer behaviors, you'd think they all have death wishes.
Just like Trump in Butler. All by design from the top
Let them fail...We bailed the Automotive industry out in 2008' and this is what they do to the consumers that the tax money came from... Greed is a horrible disease.
@@rrpence21 Finally more people are getting it.
WwwwwEeeeeFfffffff.
KlusShab
@@rrpence21Huh???? Not following that giant leap for mankind.
I don’t know why they would want to sell them. I enjoy riding by and looking at all the different colors. Besides I think they look way better on the lot than they would in my driveway against my bank account.
50k for a Challenger GT 😂😂 WTF
My 2021 challenger RT was just 32k..lol
yea they selling rts for 33k and scats 44k in my area
These dealerships need to go out of business, they reap what they sow.
I hope they all go out of business!
@@1sweet_ta sad thing is they won’t go out of business. They’re gonna get a bail out again
@@ridered7394 Yes, your tax dollars going to Brussels
Is it possible that the manufacturer wants the dealerships to go out of business so they can sell direct to consumers?
No bail out@@ridered7394
They all are they going down just like tha pale mutant's who burn in nature and think theirs something special about them they being booted off lands they don't belong
The floor plan at that dealership must be insane!
Dude today I went into a dodge dealer that has a hellcat durango coming in, silverbullet. Msrp is 115, there is 11k off msrp incentives right now so I offered 100k for it. Answer was nope, I asked are you willing to deal on price, nope. I said this company is on the verge of failing and a customer comes in and offers 100k for a durango and you say no!! They were rude as well. When they seen .
Me get in my 2021 hellcat one guy rushed out to stop me. I went in with work clothes on looking a little rough. Wow
GOOD for You, These Guy's have to Start respecting hard working people again, Those Who actually pay the Bills, Not some So called fake rich UA-camrs with Covid money, Those Days are GONE ❗It's a Disgrace already.
They saw you were already a sucker and thought they could get you again...
Knock off 20% or walk...if bankruptcy happens, warranty is void...
Visited my local dealership today. Saw a 2023 Widebody Challenger T/A Widebody $68000, no markups tho, no sunroof either. Almost 3 years old, seriously? 😵
Yup, saw a Jeep Rubicon 392 at my dealer...$103k!!! 😂
The people most to blame for overpriced Stellantis vehicles, are the ones who have been buying them for the past few years
That’s the market in general. Show me ANY vehicle that’s under 150k that’s actually worth what they are selling for…
I remember back in early 2018.
I went to East Hills Jeep Dodge Chrysler with my checkbook in hand, asking about the Trackhawks.
He told me they wanted $30,000 over sticker.
I LAUGHED AND LEFT.
For the next year, they say on lots and languished while I made fun of them on UA-cam with my "count the Trackhawks" videos.
I knew back then that this day was coming. Chrysler is dead. SRT is dead. The V8 is dead. They have nothing left to sell, and their reliability/ service is trash.
The introduction of the overpriced EV models will be the final nail in their coffin.
East Hills in Roslyn, NY?
@@LongIslandMopars yes they SUCK
@@LongIslandMopars
True story: I also went there for a 2012 Chrysler 300 SRT.
They wouldn’t make a deal with me on my 2006 SRT8 to trade.
Would you believe that I was about to leave and I looked across the street at Penn Toyota and saw the tail end of a 2012 Chrysler 300 srt.
I thought it was used so I went over to ask about it and found out that it was brand new and it even had less miles than the one that was in the Chrysler dealer.
I bought that car that day. Then I drove it back to Chrysler, shook the manager’s hand and smugly said:
“too bad we couldn’t make a deal” and then I left grinning my ass off.
I actually made a video about it.
@@PassportBrosBusinessClass It's so sad. My dad bought his one and only new car, a 1966 Dodge Coronet 500 SE from Helms Brothers Dodge in Bayside in September of that year. It was a leftover so he got a deal on it. He loved his Chrysler Corporation, known as "the engineering company" back then. He drove that car regularly until he retired in the mid-1990s, then only as a weekend warrior until his passing over a decade ago. It's now in my garage with 207k miles on it. Best $2600 he ever spent. 😎
@@LongIslandMopars
I subscribed to you. Maybe I’ll see you at a car show.
I live in Oklahoma, and they're still doing the same things. No cuts in prices, except what they show on the internet. Then they get you at the dealership. Tires for life, engines for life, etc. Garbage you know they're not going to honor.
Come to Tahlequah
Hell Cerritos Dodge is stuck in the past they are trying to sale a scat pack at 210,000 I say good luck
I just looked on line and found a Demon SRT for $188,715, so maybe they're coming to their senses.... very, very slowly. LOL
cerritos has always been a joke....in fact all the dealers on that whole street are way over market
LMAO CERRITOS DODGE RUN A FKN CIRCUS BRO 😂
@sparkydogsparky2992 anything over 90k is highway robbery on those cars...actually 60k
@@chupacabraracing181scat pack charges were selling for 39-43k all day a few years ago only the ghetto rats pay 60k for a scat cloth interior etc lmao oh and low iq morons as well as
Maserati , Lamborghini, Bugatti, Aston Martin …. Dodge, Jeep ??
Hmmm 🤔 Which expensive exotic vehicle should I spend my lottery winnings on? 😎 💰💰
😂🤪😜🤣now my sides hurt from laughing 😂🥲😅
It's absolutely retarded for these stealerships to think Jeep is on the same luxury level as Range Rover. I've been to a car show last year and the Wranglers all had the same tired old interior they've been putting inside for the last 3 years. Plus they felt old. When a vehicle is a current model year and feels old, it's time to stop shoving out the same crap year after year. Jeep Wrangler owners are the silliest fanboys I've ever met...
*Be carefully buying any CDJR product, once they sell it to you when the dealers go out of business soon after you'll be stuck with a car you cannot get warranty service on. Good luck!*
@@horseathalt7308 not so. Factory Warranty repairs can be done at any dealer service dept. similar with an after market warranty.
Blows my mind I bought my first Jeep Wrangler YJ back in Sept. Of 1993 as a 94 model for $14,762.86 out the door and they were Much thicker steel back then. And to see the prices now blows my fricken mind!!!! Sad the Greed 😠 😡 😤
What mental state does a person need to be in to overpay on these cars?
Not many have money like this to Burn🔥.
@@raymondreiff8170 💯👊🏾
It doesn't matter. My dumb father bought a '23 RAM last year because he's afraid they'll raise them even higher so I know he overpaid. I warned him not to but he did it anyway.
@@raymondreiff8170many did buy these overpriced cars for years😂
People we’re over paying for cars and homes
@@raymondreiff8170the manufacturers raised prices because after the 2020 stimulus packages people were willing to overpay at dealerships and manufacturers wanted a bite of the cake
They ALL have lost their F'n minds around pricing...I can't make myself drop $70-80,000+ on a vehicle.
They are doing the same thing in metro detroit. The dealers are used to selling to employees so non employees are expected to make up the difference on employee sales less profit.
Not true, LaFountaine is offering 18k off msrp on GW 3s. Others also in Det metro.
last week i bought a new 2024 Durango RT sticker at 71,500.00 for 15K dollar discount plus added 2K more to my trade in.
Also same day bought a 2024 new Rubicon X sticker 71,400.00 for 11.5K off plus added 2K more to my trade in.
The Durango been sitting since February and the Rubicon since June.
Still got hosed
@@OriginalBadRobotz i was very happy with the prices. plus the Rubicon has 0% interest 3 years. the Durango was 5.9% 5yr. try and pay that one off asap
@OriginalBadRobotz yep
I thought this was about dealers getting squeezed between what they pay for a car and what buyers will pay, but those dealer markups are insane.
I drove out of the city to a rural Chevrolet dealer and got a great deal on crewcab diesel. A little over $50K they had a lot of rebates to bring it down. Toss in the trade-in and I am very happy. So you are correct, some are living in the past and some get it and want the inventory gone.
I bought a brand new 2013 Dodge Challenger SXT with the 5 spoke cladded chrome RT wheels for 25k out the door. I know that is 11 years ago but to see a V6 Challenger for 50k is insane.
My question is why would anyone buy a vehicle from a failing car company. If or when they fail no service and no parts. Doesn’t sound to smart to me.
Still own my '83 CJ 7, with the manual 4 speed, theft deterrent device, love the 258 inline 6. I purchased it my senior year in high school. $8300, with hard and rag top. At least once a year I have to roll into a Jeep dealer to see what the current models look like. Then it's time to ask, where are the manuals at..........it takes how long to remove the top!!
🙂🙂🙂 I had a '77 Jeep CJ5 with factory V8, I loved that old Jeep, one of the vehicles I regret selling... along with my '70 Cuda I sold for $1500 way back when. I would actually buy an old school Jeep without all the plastic and screens and junk, if it was reasonably priced. Considering buying a body from MJ Juan and a frame and adding my own running gear.🙂🙂🙂
Current restoration project '77 CJ5 with 304 V8, bought it 2020 in Marion, SC. I can remember J C Witney selling the fiberglass replacement body and doors. Easy to tell a fiberglass tube, the rear gate / spare tire mount won't swing or drop.
@@johnharbaugh9471Yeah they sell full metal bodys out of the Philippines I think... everything from CJ2A's up to mid eighties CJ's quality is pretty good too..
Can't beat original, but in my area any originals are long gone to rust.
@@johnharbaugh9471Nice pick on the '77, forgot to say 🙂🙂🙂
That straight six engine was great.
Compare to the junk nowadays.
Premier are one of those Nationwide Dealerships !! I can get a Rubicon 4x4 here locally MSRP is $63,365 Sales Prices is $55,449 Now at Premier the one you showed here has a Rubicon 4x4 MSRP is $61,965 their sales prices is $58,965 so -$3000 off MSRP vs my Local Dealer -$8,186 off MSRP I am so glad we have a honest dealer in our local community !!! Probably get it for way less...
your still being takin up tha a*s,thats the bad part,there making you believe there cheap,its a joke
😂😂😂 u actually would wanna buy this garbage is tha funny part
My daughter bought a Jeep Compass in 2019. She argued with car salesmen for a week to get what she wanted for the price she wanted. They all told her she would never get it for that. When she got it for under 20K, she sent a picture of herself standing beside the car, to every sales person who told her it was impossible, 😂. One guy sent her a message back that said “ Thank God ! “
I've always liked the bright colors on the Challengers and Chargers (red, orange, green, etc) but I do like the looks of that white Challenger.
I’ve been looking to buy for months and get a heavy duty Ram truck. They are all made in Saltillo Mexico 🇲🇽! Specifically a Diesel to tow with, and a 50 gallon tank. Most lots have short beds with 31 gallon tanks, sun roofs, chrome everything, tiny 17” rims, huge tv style screens. This is why you don’t let city slickers who sell trucks determine what your options are. Imagine 13 mpg 6.4 hemi gets 7-9 mpg towing and you have a 31 gallon tank.
I saw that, I would walk away and tell them they have a very nice museum.
They must really enjoy staring at the same cars sitting at their lots for over a year.🤣
Does anyone know what the dealers cost on these cars actually is? Stellantis screwed them over by charging SO much for the cars that I'm thinking they really can't drop prices and take the loss. But the floor plan also has to be eating them alive. Not a good time to be a Dodge dealer eh?
At the start of the video... Looks like the Monroney stickers are missing. That's illegal.
Amazingly, no one on the lot except for you Brad on a Sunday!! Really???
“That’s with add-ons besides any rebates or…”
That’s exactly the problem, the dealer pushed the goal post up, and will now be taking those rebates to “buy down” the addendums. They’re keeping all of these rebates! No intention of selling sh*t!!!
MSRP with a 2k addendum. Remember the big highlighter green rear view mirror dlr SALE signs? That’s what all these dlrs need with a -30,000.00 on the top!
Here in Toledo Ohio, the home of the Jeep. They are offering anywhere from 10 to $20000 off M Sr P on Jeep Grand Wagoners in the metro area.
I’m so glad the FTC rules and laws state that paying for the add ons is optional. Just with till F&I to tell them “by law I don’t have to pay this and I want the charges removed. Make your deal with the front then take off all the charges in the back.
So I have just left a dealer in an area of Florida that just reopened after a hurricane. They have a 21 Scat that has 35k on it, it looks dirty but has been hidden safely in a raised parking garage so it did not get flooded.
They are asking 42k plus 4k in dealer addendum nonsense. I offered 35k all in cash tonight, the manager basically told me he would rather send it to auction and risk a loss then sell it to me.
By the way this is a freaking Honda Dealership not Dodge.
There is something about these Scat Packs and Hellcats that is making these dealers lose their minds. I don't quite understand what it is, but I believe its cultural. Because these cars are so coveted by the street outlaw scene and music artists, the dealers seem to forget these kids cannot afford to buy cars like this but people that can like me they let walk out the door for some reason.
I have given up on dealerships for the widebody Scat Pack I want. I will end up buying one fron a private owner if at all.
I want to say thank you for letting the dealer know there screwing us on prices, it’s sad I don’t even want to go to a dealer anymore, good video.
They do the same thing at Airpark Dodge in Scottsdale, Arizona
Dodge dealships have called 2 separate friends to bring their old rams in for trade-ins. And they have offered peanuts for you to trade up to a new ram. After trade in there asking $1,400 cdn a month for a mid tear ram.
Is there 20K in the trunk of that GT?
Makes you wonder how crazy the addendum stickers will be when the new Charger finally comes out.
This seems to be all dealers in my local marker in Canada. Makes me wonder if they don’t have some ulterior motive or legal strategy at play.
Destruction of CDJR
It's the plan.
My local Dodge and ram dealer has brand new Ram 2500/3500 laramies, limiteds, etc with a $1500 dealer discount but there's a $2000 markup on the MSRP because of tint and some other scam things. Absolutely ridiculous and they've been on their lot for months on end.
Brother you should be commended for exposing those shyster dealerships. They keep those addendum stickers on the cars hoping that some sucker walks in and pays the mark-ups
America is in dire straits
My guess is the high cost is built in because The Customers are expected to pay up front for all of the Low Quality parts used in these Vehicles because someone has to pay for the recalled part's, Now that Stallatis has Pissed off the parts supplier's, Who even does this?
Here on the East Coast they have $6,000 off on almost jeep/dodge/ram products
they have been trying to unload that yellow f150 for months on an online dealer auction lol
Just saw a '23 Ram 1500, pretty loaded, with 43 miles...and an "On sale" for $61+K. Two years old, 0 interest, and they think they'll get anywhere near that? No bank, credit union, or financial institution is going to grant loans on "New" 2 or more year old POS. I don't care, I don't need a vehicle and really won't for years to come if need be.
They had that crap on as a bargaining tool, once you’re negotiating, they end up giving you that stuff and make you feel like you’re getting a great deal. When all they’re really trying to do is sell you the vehicle at the price it was when it came into the lot!
They use the ad ons so that they can be talked down to MSRP.
this is why you shop from home, havent been to a dealeship unless picking up a car in 10 years.....everything online, go in to sign and take delivery
just purchased an new SLT 2500 Dmax for 8k under few weeks ago....great experience, was at dealer maybe 45 min
There are a TON of automotive dealers out there holding prices hoping for more interest rate drops to make the cars 'affordable'.
There are plenty of places in the US you can still buy a brand new 2022 vehicle.
The automotive industry is still a long ways from rock bottom and there are no signs of a recovery.
50 america for a gt😂😂😂 im cryin there over 37 here in canada
Months ago gt were being sold for about 28k and rt for about 35k.
OC actually did a video on a dealership near me and shortly afterwards they and many dealerships lowered prices, the dealerships I was watching sold the model/trim I wanted
I got a 2023 Challenger Scat Pack for 37k earlier this year. Fuck that 50k for a gt is insane
Saw this for the comedy and you did not disappoint with these prices.
From my understanding the prices won’t be reflected until probably February because wholesale purchase on these current ones was higher than the next wholesale purchase
I'm an old Dodge man like my dad was but there is no reason for me to patronize the company anymore. Not until its leadership changes and their dealers become franchises that I would want to go to.
8:04 Gotta make sure you get that silent G in Cummins. 😅
You can tell how much a dude knows about a diesel, when he says Cummings. 😂
LET EM ROT DODGE ISNT EVEN RELEVANT ANYMORE. It was a FAD except 700 hp isn’t anything cool anymore when there are better cars with less hp that will gap these
Really like what
Buy used and service it if you need something nice for a trip just go rent a car for the weekend.
That has been my strategy for a while now, I own a pickup out right, because everyone needs a pickup, and if I need a nice car for special purpose I rent one.
Add all that crap on and you have a hard time dealer trading.
I had an aftermarket business before. I would spec out vehicles for dealers (dress them up and get paid when the vehicle sold). Sometimes customers would ask why the dealer is selling the same thing as me for so much more money.
Just checked my local Jeep dealership and we have most new Grand Cherokees for 108 000 euro,nice price when most people salary is 900 - 1500 euro...
With the costs of the cars and trucks, you can put down a good down payment on a house, that will probably go up in value. Just remember, that when you drive a new vechical off the lot, it will depreciate about 20%.
at my dodge dealership they are asking $37k for a used rt with 60k miles and another one for the same price but it has 10k miles.. good luck trying to sell those. (i want a rt though! Saving up for one atm)
There are still new cars from 2 years ago sitting on some lots and they just keep adding to the inventory of lot rot vehicles.
Hey Brad I saw something today I don't know whether it's weather CGI or whether it's real but it claims to be real a new Chrysler 300 you might want to investigate that with your great skills
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It's not even the prices - it's the horrendous quality that's the kicker in my book. 2022-2024 CDJR models clogging the service departments. Techs can't keep up. No wonder they're going under.
I bought a 2023 challenger scat pack TA this month for 46k with 500 miles on it, sold from the new dealership to the used dealership to get it gone. Exactly what you're saying, is happening in Maryland. Killer deals. Though I will say, they offered me yuck for my 2020 Ram 1500 Limited trade in.
One of the problems (and not the only one) is that the American public is still being gaslit in to believing we still have a healthy economy; and that must be true because the stock market is up …right?
So, these dealerships are still using the business model from the COVID era, but with everything happening right now, they WILL change.
GASLIT? THE PRICES ON THE SHELVES SAY THEY KNOW THE ECONOMY IS F'ED THEY JUST LIKE HEARING THE BEAUTIFUL LIE TO MAKE THEM FEEL BETTER AKA HOPIUM.😂😂😂😂
@@cdaway2024 Sure, but “they” will attribute the increase to anything except the truth and the majority of the public, being the sheep they are will accept that this is just the way things are. The general public is only interested in “bread and games”.
Also, typing in all capitals letters should be avoided unless you are actual yelling.
@@kingjustice1831 LETTERS DON'T MAKE SOUNDS, PEOPLE DO. NOW 🎊 CONGRADULATIONS FOR PLAYING YOURSELF.🎊🤡🤡🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@cdaway2024 this went left quickly so I’ll disengage.
Have a nice day.
You think in US they would want to sell them, OS market dried up years ago. Just in a small market like Australia Jeep went from 20,000, 7 years ago to maybe 2,000 this year. If they’re lucky.
Can someone explain this to me (as someone with an economics degree who works in the automotive industry)?
I understand supply and demand, but this seems like the opposite. Why would you mark up cars that already aren’t selling? It has a whiff of some sort of scam, but maybe a manager has just been given the completely wrong incentives.
In regards to the price/addendums he says "we can work it out" and what he fails to realize is that people are sick and tired of trying to negotiate, haggle and play hard ball with these stealers to attempt get a fair deal. Nobody wants to sit and pull teeth, it's ridiculous who wants to be taken for a ride in their overpriced junk with markups/addons that don't even matter. These stealers are just outright crooks.
On a sidenote we were stuck with Jeep Grand Cherokee hybrid recently as a rental. It felt like a chintzy rattle trap and the engine sounded like an 80's g.m. four banger wide open when you had to step on the peddle to get it moving.. at around $60k for something like that brand new there is just NO WAY! Over the last week I saw two of them sitting on the side of the highway with their flashers on.. broke down.. I don't know but it makes me wonder. I remember the Grand Cherokees of the 90's into the early 2000's that were almost like tanks, people would drive the wheels off of them for a couple of decades at least.
How is any of the new throw away stuff good for the environment when it is such low quality and it most likely won't last half as long as the stuff built 30 years ago??
The reason they may not be discounting is they are assisting in the bankruptcy of Stellantis.
A Gladiator can tow a little over 7600 pounds. I wonder what it would be with the 6.4 Hemi? Or the 5.7?
Rydell Jeep in the San Fernando Valley, Calif is giving some fair discounts from 6k to 10K depending on the model. Check them on line, I'd like to hear your opinion.
Good gawd. There are fools who will pay that price but lucky for them the bank won’t finance it due to not enough income or not enough down payment. The buyers are long gone.
Their next strategy is to cut supply so much that it will only be a few fools left who will pay this price
They thought that by going out of business they could increase the price as a rare antique 😂
50k for a GT challenger. I remember when the scatpack wide body were going for 50k and I thought that was too much.
And it was too much.
"No, I don't have addendums anymore", "The sticker is right here for $3500 worth of junk", "Oh, I see what you mean". SMH - MSRP/MSRP+ is OVER. I am leaving immediately if the price I see on the internet is not the price I see on the lot. What makes dealers think we would enjoy to negotiate not paying for something I did not ask for? If these products were so great they would sell themselves, correct? SELL it to me, don't negotiate it to me! I believe in the information age that we are in now being a car salesman takes much more effort then theses guys are putting into the job. How many of us have gone shopping and have known more about the product than the person that is trying to sell it to you? I mean, have the same internet you have. YOU surf the net. YOU find out what the competition is doing. YOU match the price. Not a knock on Nestor necessarily, I don't know him. His hands probably are tied. Oh well, this is were we find ourselves, Good video Brad. Thank You.
I've met a lot of recent Salemens who are convinced add-ons are expected and MSRP is a dream deal. None of them have been in the game for more than a few years.
The dealers are now like the mafia
Listen to the sales guy, hey we can work something out.
I have a 2017 dodge challenger sxt plus
I bought in 22, for 29 grand
It has 36,000
I love my car more then anything and feel honored to have her.
Especially now when these cars, these beautiful cars are just rotting on lots
It's heartbreaking 💔
The most stable job at the dealership is installing these add-ons.
They think everyone wants a complete loaded rig with every option
It’s not about the customer anymore…it’s all about profits
I bought a jeep last year at 30k. My bank would not pay more. Banks won't loan on something twice the price of its actual value.
Take 50% off those prices and they will be close to actual value.
And we will not buy any more vehicles until the prices drop dramatically.
I just got my new 2024 Ram 1500 limited for $21,000 under MSRP a few weeks ago... some dealers are getting it. Others not so much..
If you see this and your considering or wanting a new vehicle just wait wait til November 2025 and see how the market is and until then just buy cars for like 2-5k that way you have no auto loan debt and tbh older vehicles are easy to work on especially if its a 90s-01 model and if it breaks its easy and cheap to get another or fix
Just picked up a 23 Ram 3500 night editon that looked similar to the black 1. Just under 18k miles, 68k plus tax.
Yeah, it’s unbelievable. What they charge for like their ceramic coating and all that you pay literally. 1000% markup.
58K for that BOTTOM of the barrel v6 Etorque ram!! Its insane! That grey one is like bottom of the line... ONE step above a work truck and has the little v6 , and they want 58? They are out of their minds here.
You are right we are not paying those prices lol, I bought used for this reason