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КОМЕНТАРІ • 201

  • @FanOfMostEverything
    @FanOfMostEverything Рік тому +102

    I was not prepared for the idea that Commodore Guff is a regeneration of the same Time Lord as Ms. Frizzle.

  • @xander_man
    @xander_man Рік тому +251

    FWIW, “cascade, cascade” is 2 abilities, you may only copy 1 of them with Abstruse Archaic for a total of 3 cascades

    • @ricohard1986
      @ricohard1986 Рік тому +7

      But you're not copying the cascade your copying the trigger that says "spells of mana cost 7+ gain 'cascade, cascade" which is a single ability. Which resolves twice adding cascade, cascade, cascade, cascade to the text of the spell which then resolve normally

    • @xander_man
      @xander_man Рік тому +42

      @@ricohard1986 The “Spells you control gain” is a static ability and not copiable by Abstruse Archaic

    • @matthewtaylor6829
      @matthewtaylor6829 Рік тому +9

      Bumping because everyone needs to know this

    • @vampiredarkdragon
      @vampiredarkdragon Рік тому +3

      Correct. Each instance of cascade is its own instance of a triggered ability.

    • @Vlaecke
      @Vlaecke Рік тому +11

      I know this has been answered, but in case there's someone out there like me who wants the exact reference in the
      CR: 702.85c If a spell has multiple instances of cascade, each triggers separately.

  • @FWill13
    @FWill13 Рік тому +162

    Ben, Ben, Adam, and Kathleen is absolutely my dream blunt rotation

    • @germanyjones2700
      @germanyjones2700 Рік тому +4

      C’mon Kath PASS dat ish

    • @OctopusOwl
      @OctopusOwl Рік тому +6

      The chillest circle. They’d be so cool to just talk about big concepts together

    • @elscourou6654
      @elscourou6654 Рік тому +3

      I'll do you one better. Wheeler, Kathleen, Cameron, Serge and Graham

  • @djmaster293
    @djmaster293 Рік тому +71

    Two bens and an adam? I can already tell this episodes going off the rails

  • @LibertyMonk
    @LibertyMonk Рік тому +4

    "none cards, left beef" is an iconic reference. It works as a reference, but also, you're all out of cards and still have beef (petty slights) remaining.

  • @Taruan
    @Taruan Рік тому +73

    Holy crap that grindr joke conversation was gold! Well done to Matt for that edit

  • @TwoflowerTheTourist
    @TwoflowerTheTourist Рік тому +80

    49:00 Small correction, Ben should've cascaded only theee times. You can copy either of the two cascade triggers the spell creates, but there's not a single trigger that you can copy lets you cascade twice.

    • @TwoflowerTheTourist
      @TwoflowerTheTourist Рік тому +15

      57:30 Pillar of Origins doesn't enter the battlefield tapped.

    • @ricohard1986
      @ricohard1986 Рік тому

      Hes not copying the cascade he's copying the ability that grants double cascade

    • @bondeulv
      @bondeulv Рік тому +19

      @@ricohard1986 that ability is a static one, not a triggered or activated one.

  • @whipstitchzombie
    @whipstitchzombie Рік тому +30

    these episodes are always so clean cut and entertaining that it makes me want way more than one a month but that's the fallacy

  • @jovh8795
    @jovh8795 Рік тому +37

    I had to watch the whole video to be sure but Wheeler bottomed every scry he had on Path of Ancestry which means he got full value off his turn one land. Which if nothing else gives him some sort of moral victory involving value.

    • @IRFine
      @IRFine Рік тому +4

      He kept one at 1:02:40

  • @gavinps31
    @gavinps31 Рік тому +12

    Who ever is in charge of these new edit jokes, I see you, and appreciate you and your excellent work

  • @StookyBill
    @StookyBill Рік тому +5

    wheeler's planeswalking columbo is my favourite thing

  • @evanjcameron
    @evanjcameron Рік тому +3

    the chaotic alignment of each side of this table is delicious.

  • @joshbaker1639
    @joshbaker1639 Рік тому +7

    Didn’t see that end coming. Each deck looks awesome, even if they are quite expensive.

  • @nerd_mor
    @nerd_mor Рік тому +4

    "I've got the thoughts of 3000 slivers in my head" is the best ADHD description I've ever heard

  • @keab42
    @keab42 Рік тому +10

    I love Adam's humour when he plays EDH.

  • @JRandomHacker
    @JRandomHacker Рік тому +2

    "I get a bunch of triggers"
    - Adam, summarizing playing Enchantress

  • @tomireland3644
    @tomireland3644 Рік тому

    Thank you!
    Hugely grateful for the change in sound mixing so the harsh horn doesn't cut through and over the voice of everyone.
    It hurt my head and it's really good to be able to chill out listening and watching the show.
    Lovely bunch of folks playing fun and powerful decks. Always happy when everyone gets to pop off 💙💙💙

  • @BasicandBizarre
    @BasicandBizarre Рік тому +2

    OK, I was NOT expecting the Guff deck to go that hard! Wow.

  • @gaz-l621
    @gaz-l621 Рік тому +6

    I'm so glad the pandemic made Columbo into a thing The Youth enjoy, it's a gift that keeps giving

  • @rachelkerns5259
    @rachelkerns5259 Рік тому +8

    Okay first off I wanna say I love this video and everyone at lrr. Great editing and my favorite commander game play on this sphere of the internet. I really hope someone reads this: please pick a different ambience track you’ve used this same one for multiple EDSC and every 7 mins the Saxophone goes off on a crazy solo that makes it hard to hear the players. Again greatest respect for everything you do, and if the track stays I’ll still watch.

    • @Half_Dupl3x
      @Half_Dupl3x Рік тому +4

      i literally did not even notice the background music until i read this comment

    • @migueletcetc
      @migueletcetc Рік тому

      Came to the comment section to see if somebody else was talking about it, I agree completely. Happens in many previous videos too. It is great content, but it has that headache inducing element.

  • @MrSwordJ
    @MrSwordJ Рік тому +11

    I dearly wish y'all had more time slots to produce these.

  • @PsionicMonk
    @PsionicMonk 6 місяців тому +1

    The only sliver I know of that doesn't directly help other slivers is that artifact sliver with no abilities, and technically most changelings

  • @Mordalon
    @Mordalon Рік тому +9

    Since it doesn't target, Ghoulish Impetus' ability that puts it directly onto the battlefield can put it on creatures with hexproof/shroud. This comes up a lot with effects like Retether than can return Auras directly to the battlefield from the graveyard or effects that flicker Auras.

  • @BeAware3
    @BeAware3 Рік тому +1

    The planeswalker party is the most fun precon I've ever had. I've beefed it up a little bit and it wrecks. So much so that people have procured the "immoetal sun" to stop me lol

  • @user-wy7rx2po3t
    @user-wy7rx2po3t Рік тому +1

    the way Matt JUMPSCARED me with the grindr notif sound is unacceptable.....

  • @bvorhies
    @bvorhies Рік тому

    Thank you for doing elder dragon social club. Honestly if feels like watching a group of friends play and having fun. Thank you once again for bring joy to those around. It really does help being able to make it though a week.

  • @hqueso
    @hqueso Рік тому +4

    I'm so excited to see an new EDSC that I spontaneously engaged with the content!

  • @thenerdwithoutfear8378
    @thenerdwithoutfear8378 Рік тому +17

    It kinda physically hurt me when Kathleen missed getting the Chandra Emblem out.
    Chandra was on 6, using Karns Bastion to proliferate puts it on 7 for the Emblem.
    I had it out last weekend and it's a blast. Just wrecks boards and lifetotals.

    • @345tom
      @345tom Рік тому +2

      I hope you sought help with your pain!
      Honestly, piloting the Guff deck there's so many ability choices going around it can be a pain to think through all the lines. It's not the waterfall of triggers of the Enchantress deck, where the issue is keeping track, the issue is just active actions. It's a fun deck, but it's real bad for decision paralysis or adapting board states.

  • @MidoriKeen
    @MidoriKeen Рік тому +1

    "The Brothers Yasuo" got me hard; someone's been playing a lot of LoL!

  • @kizikucalegon8673
    @kizikucalegon8673 Рік тому +3

    19:23 - fun fact, the voice actor who did Scruff McGruff is in prison on drug and weapon charges. So, uh.. no treat, bad dog?

  • @incrediblefrown1288
    @incrediblefrown1288 Рік тому +4

    10:30 they did have half art wastes in the bfz precons; i worked a card store and always complained to our database people that the entry for them didn't meaningfully differentiate them from the full arts, and they never did anything about it. presumably because there was zero demand for them and thus no actual chance of error. but it still bothered me!!

  • @Crowned_Goblin
    @Crowned_Goblin Рік тому +2

    The Grindr messages were WILD.

  • @samuelcouey8946
    @samuelcouey8946 Рік тому +7

    “All I wanna do, is see Adam cast into, a giant woman….”

  • @shaneportis520
    @shaneportis520 Рік тому +3

    Never realized until this game that Spirited Companion was an enchantment creature

    • @Mordalon
      @Mordalon Рік тому +1

      It's a key part of why it was so good in Kamigawa limited and not just an Elvish Visionary recolor.

  • @markbrierley6367
    @markbrierley6367 Рік тому +3

    I had always interpreted the scene in which Guff rewrites future history as complicated time magic and not self awareness or 4th wall breaking.

    • @NickTheDM
      @NickTheDM Рік тому +2

      I mean the line between the two is pretty narrow, so that’s a valid interpretation.

    • @PiquantPan
      @PiquantPan Рік тому +2

      Guff's entire presence in the novels is constant 4th-wall-breaking and veiled references to MTG lore. the specific scene where he rewrites history isn't played for laughs as much as his other antics, it does have tension and drama to it, but it's still very goofy overall since Guff knows that he exists in a timeline that is able to be rewritten on an order of magnitude higher than Teferi's time magic.
      Compare him to another "All-knowing Librarian" trope like Wan Shi Tong in ATLA, who knows everything that's been written, but doesn't have the power to influence what has or hasn't happened.

  • @Redonx
    @Redonx Рік тому

    Wheeler's joke at 22:36 was so underappreciated at the table for how good it is (and the edit was very good too)

  • @IraRadchuk
    @IraRadchuk Рік тому +1

    Ben's introduction and Adam's and Wheeler's comments on it left me in stitches. And tbat's only 2 minutes in!

  • @hetarthpatel8297
    @hetarthpatel8297 8 місяців тому

    shout out to ben for the kingdom hearts reference " simple and clean" Love this show!😃

  • @MrThewooter
    @MrThewooter Рік тому +2

    Huh, I guess Adam is in a polycule with Chandra and Nissa now. Neat.

  • @sandmanlives3
    @sandmanlives3 Рік тому

    Excellent, as always. Thank you.
    I’m a big fan of Wheeler’s cult. 😊1:21:42

  • @axelostlund2348
    @axelostlund2348 Рік тому +13

    And thus we see a new engagement of dragons in social matters.

  • @gogglestherandom5701
    @gogglestherandom5701 Рік тому +1

    All praise our Glorious Gladiator Godfather

  • @sirspate
    @sirspate Рік тому +5

    Kudos to the editor(s) for the symbology choice at 15:09

  • @TheCookieCrisp
    @TheCookieCrisp Рік тому

    I don't know if it's just my phone but this looks amazing! Great color and very crisp!

  • @SymphoneersGaming
    @SymphoneersGaming Рік тому +2

    Adam AND the Bens? I'd like to formally register an ook ook.

    • @broshmosh
      @broshmosh Рік тому

      Not to be confused with Adam And The Bends, a cuationary tale about diving and blood oxygen.

  • @ArcanaMaxima
    @ArcanaMaxima Рік тому +1

    3:39
    "Have they ever made a Sliver that didn't care about Slivers?"
    I don't know if this qualifies, but I do know of one Sliver card that does not have any abilities itself; Sliver Construct.

    • @jedrzejkraszewski816
      @jedrzejkraszewski816 Рік тому +1

      Plus there's its earlier buddies, bigger Venser's Sliver from Time Spiral, and smaller Metallic Sliver from the first appearance of Slivers in Tempest.

  • @TejanoPendragon
    @TejanoPendragon Рік тому +1

    In this episode, I learned that Weeler Loves Me
    Also that Wheeler does not have my best interests in heart
    I do not know how to reconcile these two pieces of information

  • @18nightc322
    @18nightc322 Рік тому

    This was the most Anime magic thing. The power of friendship truly rocked around.

  • @SackofDooDoo
    @SackofDooDoo Рік тому

    I played 3 precon games with these decks, each of which players rotated decks, and Guff won all of them (while being archenemy the whole game each time). We dubbed the deck "DifGufftin." I was glad to see that it began differently for you guys...yet ended the same. GG, nonetheless!

  • @stephenbradford8524
    @stephenbradford8524 Рік тому +2

    My experience with the Zhulodok deck is that, out of the box, "cascade" hits too many X spells.

  • @jamesbalch3751
    @jamesbalch3751 Рік тому

    Jeremy brought the City's Blessing to the fashion show

  • @sushimahjongfc
    @sushimahjongfc Рік тому

    I love the simple and clean reference ❤

  • @Wiitigo_X
    @Wiitigo_X 8 місяців тому

    Sliver construct is a 2/2 for 3 generic that is an artifact creature sliver with nothing but flavor text so there is technically a sliver that doesn't care about slivers

  • @Tclark6199
    @Tclark6199 Рік тому

    "But after....switch" I fucking lost it 🤣🤣🤣

  • @TamesLovesGames
    @TamesLovesGames Рік тому

    Me, last night: I wonder if LRR will do an EDSC about the Commander Masters decks
    Me, today: Heck yeah!

  • @isyraqzaki9727
    @isyraqzaki9727 Рік тому +1

    Not the grindr notification sounds 💀💀💀

  • @PUDRETE919
    @PUDRETE919 Рік тому

    10:35 They printed non-full art Wastes into the Oath of the Gatewatch fatpack, one got full arts out of the boosters but the basic land pack had non full art

  • @DarthChewdup
    @DarthChewdup Рік тому

    they did print non-fullart wastes in a colorless event deck back in oath of the gatewatch

  • @michaelbutta4764
    @michaelbutta4764 Рік тому

    @LRRMTG would you mind telling me what type of dice you guys use in your gameplay? (specifically the oversized ones with numerals instead of pips). They are spiffy!

  • @minine6508
    @minine6508 5 місяців тому

    59:02 this is just the plot of Grim Fandango

  • @IxWxSxProud
    @IxWxSxProud Рік тому

    Ben referencing Simple and Clean almost made me scream

  • @spellbreakerunbound
    @spellbreakerunbound Рік тому +3

    1:15:30 Play Spark Double, copying Guff, play Chad, swing with Leori at a player and name Guff, -3 OG Guff for 6 damage, -3 Spark Guff for 6 more damage is lethal, no? Fun game tho, love seeing gameplay of the CMM decks, even if they’re overpriced!

  • @grelgen
    @grelgen Рік тому

    Kathleen working that BM final turn to it's maximum.

  • @jameshaga5400
    @jameshaga5400 Рік тому

    Now that eldraine is out with its 2 precons Im hopin we get to see the 2 from All will be one and eldraine fight.

  • @WeatheredPeach
    @WeatheredPeach Рік тому

    Heavy are the eyes that ponder the orb.

  • @meaghansharp6906
    @meaghansharp6906 Рік тому

    37:12 Now I wanna know the origins of "giddy up" lol

  • @insainraven9875
    @insainraven9875 Рік тому +1

    Ok but I would a hundred percent love a persona secret lair

  • @thomaswhite3059
    @thomaswhite3059 Рік тому

    I don't know if James has a kid but that time to lean guff means he's a Dad

  • @MiffoKarin
    @MiffoKarin Рік тому +2

    Great game and great editing!

  • @tobybeauchamp2323
    @tobybeauchamp2323 Рік тому +1

    Ben forgot the cascade trigger from Ugin unfortunately. It’s colourless spells! 1:26:27

    • @bondeulv
      @bondeulv Рік тому

      ...with mana value 7 or greater 😉
      Ugin is 6 unfortunately.

    • @tobybeauchamp2323
      @tobybeauchamp2323 Рік тому

      @@bondeulv got my ugins confused 🤣🤣

  • @ronaldkantelberg
    @ronaldkantelberg Рік тому

    Good to see there's always time to sh*t on James, even during commander games. 😂

  • @aririran7749
    @aririran7749 Рік тому

    wheelers face at 21:26 tho 🤣

  • @IRFine
    @IRFine Рік тому +1

    So Guff isn’t really a self-insert, per se.
    It’s true that he’s based off the Magic story lead Scott McGough, but McGough didn’t write or create the character. J. Robert King, the author of the Invasion trilogy, made him. It’s like making a character based on your boss, I guess

    • @magnusprime962
      @magnusprime962 Рік тому

      I think she was meaning that Guff was a self-insert writer when he rewrote history

  • @ViciousVic595
    @ViciousVic595 Рік тому

    25:09 I ask myself that every fucking day and still don’t have an answer!

  • @daviddotson765
    @daviddotson765 Рік тому

    Kathleen and the rowdy boiz. 10/10 content.

  • @ff0213
    @ff0213 Рік тому +1

    Slithers and Adam - name a better combination inside and outside of magic

  • @finnsclarinet
    @finnsclarinet Рік тому

    Original Gideon is the best way of saying OG ever

  • @Giga-lemesh
    @Giga-lemesh Рік тому

    Very excited to see these decks

  • @Intorqueo629
    @Intorqueo629 Рік тому

    You advertised the sleeves at the top of the show but they're still OOS, any chance of a restock soon?

  • @joe_h_Redwire
    @joe_h_Redwire Рік тому

    As Adam would say, I popped when I saw this in my feed.

  • @vipershutendoji2415
    @vipershutendoji2415 Рік тому +1

    Shoulder devils, Auntie Blyte entered the chat

  • @williamriven
    @williamriven Рік тому

    I'm engaging because nobody knows a better way to get the recommendation algorithm to work.

  • @uriahatkinson2103
    @uriahatkinson2103 Рік тому

    This game was crazy , I’m into that ,now power up the decks and play again,I think Adam deck went off more in my opinion

  • @andrewtl7988
    @andrewtl7988 Рік тому +2

    Okay but why all the Crashing Drawbridge hate?! Repeatable on-board haste not in red? It's a great card in the right deck

    • @Mordalon
      @Mordalon Рік тому

      Occasionally they chose the weirdest cards to pick on.

  • @tomserdar412
    @tomserdar412 Рік тому

    Wonderful game! I love that Kathleen won!

  • @TheOnlyOrk
    @TheOnlyOrk Рік тому

    god these decks look so cool. Wish they weren't so dang expensive

  • @matthugenberg8869
    @matthugenberg8869 Рік тому +3

    You do not cascade 4 times, as each cascade is a separate trigger. You should only get 3 cascades.

    • @gaz-l621
      @gaz-l621 Рік тому

      Eh, people make mistakes and it's not like Ben got much value off the 4th one.

    • @Mordalon
      @Mordalon Рік тому +2

      @@gaz-l621 I don't see what's wrong without pointing it out, at least so other people don't make the same mistake.

  • @marcopolo1020
    @marcopolo1020 Рік тому

    I love the intro music so much! 🎉😊

  • @irudeathmasacoru1172
    @irudeathmasacoru1172 Рік тому

    Kathleen didn't pay the 1 red for Blasphemous Act, sheesh XD

  • @kilo3989
    @kilo3989 Рік тому

    I'm rooting for "Ms. Frizzle, probably"!

  • @xander_man
    @xander_man Рік тому

    Holy shit what a lineup of players

  • @gamefreak3072
    @gamefreak3072 Рік тому

    maybe its the edible but I died at the back and forth between bens

  • @woofwife
    @woofwife Рік тому

    god i would join wheeler's cult in a second

  • @zachfederer8022
    @zachfederer8022 Рік тому

    Taunting sliver says when this sliver enters the battlefield goad a creature. So would it trigger when the copied entered? Shouldn't they only trigger off themselves not when other slivers enter?

    • @JasonOshinko
      @JasonOshinko Рік тому +2

      Yes, each Sliver only triggers off of itself entering. Wheeler should only have gotten two goads at 1:26:38, not three.

  • @namelessaccount2759
    @namelessaccount2759 Рік тому

    WHAT A GREAT DAY!

  • @jarzz3601
    @jarzz3601 Рік тому

    card kingdom a constitutional monarchy of cards

  • @Arti_Shovelhead
    @Arti_Shovelhead Рік тому

    A nice break from my Fam Jam marathon.

  • @JustXen66
    @JustXen66 Рік тому

    I would love to see a lore episode

  • @NStripleseven
    @NStripleseven Рік тому

    They have, in fact, printed 3 slivers that don’t care about slivers. They’re all vanilla artifact creatures.

  • @IRFine
    @IRFine Рік тому

    Prediction for who’s on what deck:
    Wheeler: Guff
    Ben: Eldrazi
    Adam: Enchantments
    Kathleen: Slivers
    Lets see if I’m right