We love our fall planted beats, but that's in our garden. They are started indoors and planted in beds when it cools off. I think they would get fried down here in the south in September.
I appreciate honest, no bs approaches. That's what my channel is about also. Love when people get called out for making black eyes on the hunting industry.
Just found your channel. I'm no farmer but my own little qq backyard garden has taught me the beets need a little babying while the turnips just take over. I'll be watching more of your videos. Thanks!
Sales gimmick yes. Do the TV stars and UA-cam Stars know they are giving you bad information? Probably yes, maybe not. They don't care. They shoot big bucks because they have access to some of the best hunting ground in the country paid for by people who buy the gimmicks. Good to see there's a few people out there fighting the misinformation. Good video.
Good question With out seeing a. Soil test 200 pounds. 6-24-24 and 100 pounds urea Possibly some AMS It’s kind of guessing with out test results to go off of. But brassica are massive users of inputs,like corn. Too little fertilizer and you can get yellow leaves by late October. Many foliar/ liquids can work great as well. We like Plot Dr. from Harper growing solutions.
i grew a sugar beet plot last year.started in mid june the plot never grew a bulb plenty of greens the deer would hammer the green tops.odd thing the plants kept on growing leaves it was like candy to these deer
Thanks again for concise information and educating us on which seeds and where they should be planted. You are very helpful What is the expected tonnage from the short season brassica?
Thanks John. I decided to try sugar beats this season. I'm going to plant them end of this month here In NJ. First time trying them, planning on doing half my plot with them and see how it goes. Thanks again for the info.
Jon, Will sugar beets withstand brows pressure through the summer if planted in the spring time. Or will the leaves be gone by fall. I know this is all relevant to deer number and location. Just thought I’d see if you had any suggestions and if it’s worth the time to plant them. Thanks again and keep the great informational videos coming.
They won’t take much summer browse pressure similar to beans or early brows in on brassica. You can use a electric fence or a liquid lime deer detour from Harper Growing Solutions
Great question. We tried corn with clover Combo and it didn’t do to well. We are going to do a corn over seed video soon. But rye and radishes are a great addition to corn.
Thanks John! Quick question. Would you or could you use wheat and or rye as a spring/ summer cover/ green manure crop as we do buckwheat. Deer in our area destroy the buckwheat alot of years before it reaches any size. Once the woods turn green they seem to leave the rye alone. Will be planting sweat feast and clover in fall
Aren’t there some brassica plants and turnips that are 100 days or more to maturity? I get that most brassica are less than 80 days, but you could feasibly plant the longer maturity brassica with sugar beets in the spring.
Kale is great for me for introducing diversity in an area where u have a large rape along with forage radishes. I've had many kale plants becoming the largest producers in forage over the last 3 years of drought here in MN on sandy soil. Putting too many turnip seeds in there is a mistake & will only take away from your radish & kale production which I've found for year to year August plantings. Kinda like having Sugar Beets in there mixed with some dwarf essex rape, that is just plain non-logical. Will a kill-plot tucked away in the woods with security have any drawing power when large areas of agriculture with sugar beets are in the general area? Just ridiculous & irresponsible. 😢
I hunt in southeast Texas. I'm going to try the short season brassica this year. Radishes are the one brassica I see deer eating the most. I have a lot of questions on screening blends. When do I plant in the deep south is one of them.
Thanks John , as always great info. I am looking forward to late July/early Aug to get your sweet feast brassicas and fall forage blend in the ground. In northern NY those 2 blends will keep deer in my 1.5 acre plot from Oct to Feb.
Brassica question My brassica plantings in Northern MN big woods area get decimated by deer. My brassica plantings in Central MN surrounded by heavy agriculture get largely overlooked by deer . I have heard from a couple other folks brassicas in heavy ag area s are not as attractive to deer . Anyone know why or seen the same thing?
I want to try sugar beets. Could I broadcast and light disc in early June? Will I need to fence the area? Do you think I will need to fertilize. This is in a muck area with high organic matter.
Get a real good weed kill. Broadcast and a light disc will get the seed deep enough. Yes 19-19-19 and 46-0-0 (similar to corn) for fertilizer A electric fence may be needed pending the local deer density
Planted sugarbeets in mid June in Central MN last year. Good germination but late planting date and fairly heavy browse prevented the beet from getting very big. Trying again this year with a May beet planting.
Great information! Thanks!
Thank you John appreciate the honesty
Love the corn analogy!
Great info as always Thank you
Thank you for your content sir
I hope my sweet feast does better this year.After the first hard frost there was nothing left.The deer hammered it.Thank you!
Overseed rye once they start
We love our fall planted beats, but that's in our garden. They are started indoors and planted in beds when it cools off. I think they would get fried down here in the south in September.
I appreciate honest, no bs approaches. That's what my channel is about also. Love when people get called out for making black eyes on the hunting industry.
Just being honest……
Folks work to hard for their money to waste it on nonsense.
@@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 truth
Really appreciate these videos 👍
This is the best channel. Keep the great information coming.
Just found your channel. I'm no farmer but my own little qq backyard garden has taught me the beets need a little babying while the turnips just take over. I'll be watching more of your videos. Thanks!
Can you plant them end of July? In west central wi. Just straight beets . Just for the tops
You can
But a good brassica blend can be a better option
Great video John, Sweet Feast is the best brassica blend I have planted!
Sales gimmick yes. Do the TV stars and UA-cam Stars know they are giving you bad information? Probably yes, maybe not. They don't care. They shoot big bucks because they have access to some of the best hunting ground in the country paid for by people who buy the gimmicks. Good to see there's a few people out there fighting the misinformation. Good video.
Question..... what are your recommendations for application of fertilizers and urea for best brassica results? Great videos!
Good question
With out seeing a. Soil test
200 pounds.
6-24-24 and 100 pounds urea
Possibly some AMS
It’s kind of guessing with out test results to go off of.
But brassica are massive users of inputs,like corn.
Too little fertilizer and you can get yellow leaves by late October.
Many foliar/ liquids can work great as well.
We like Plot Dr. from Harper growing solutions.
What would you recommend when the soybeans yellow late August?
Short season brassica
i grew a sugar beet plot last year.started in mid june the plot never grew a bulb plenty of greens the deer would hammer the green tops.odd thing the plants kept on growing leaves it was like candy to these deer
Get a soil test done.
You may be low on something
I'm in Florida Panhandle and drop turnips mid to late Sept.
Thanks again for concise information and educating us on which seeds and where they should be planted. You are very helpful
What is the expected tonnage from the short season brassica?
That would all depend on planting date, soil moisture ect.
2 tons at least is possible. I don’t want to over promise lol 🤷🏼♂️
Can you purchase in Canada
Thanks John. I decided to try sugar beats this season. I'm going to plant them end of this month here In NJ. First time trying them, planning on doing half my plot with them and see how it goes. Thanks again for the info.
Jon,
Will sugar beets withstand brows pressure through the summer if planted in the spring time. Or will the leaves be gone by fall. I know this is all relevant to deer number and location. Just thought I’d see if you had any suggestions and if it’s worth the time to plant them. Thanks again and keep the great informational videos coming.
They won’t take much summer browse pressure similar to beans or early brows in on brassica.
You can use a electric fence or a liquid lime deer detour from Harper Growing Solutions
Good video. Would you plant red clover into corn? Or wait til August and do radish?
Great question.
We tried corn with clover Combo and it didn’t do to well. We are going to do a corn over seed video soon.
But rye and radishes are a great addition to corn.
@Northwoods Whitetails Food Plot Seed I was thinking of trying southern states brassica into corn / sorghum. But makes sense to use rye.
@@travissmith-wz5nc you can of the corn is clean and wider rows.
And get a few good rains
Hi John. Can we mix sweet feast brassica with fall foodplot blend
I would not mix them.
We add a few pounds of radishes to the fall forage blend.
Thanks John! Quick question. Would you or could you use wheat and or rye as a spring/ summer cover/ green manure crop as we do buckwheat. Deer in our area destroy the buckwheat alot of years before it reaches any size. Once the woods turn green they seem to leave the rye alone. Will be planting sweat feast and clover in fall
Nevermind I just watched the planting in sandy soil video. Thank you again!
Soil builder or straight rye
Aren’t there some brassica plants and turnips that are 100 days or more to maturity? I get that most brassica are less than 80 days, but you could feasibly plant the longer maturity brassica with sugar beets in the spring.
Yes some kale varieties and Swedes as well.
Kale is great for me for introducing diversity in an area where u have a large rape along with forage radishes. I've had many kale plants becoming the largest producers in forage over the last 3 years of drought here in MN on sandy soil. Putting too many turnip seeds in there is a mistake & will only take away from your radish & kale production which I've found for year to year August plantings. Kinda like having Sugar Beets in there mixed with some dwarf essex rape, that is just plain non-logical. Will a kill-plot tucked away in the woods with security have any drawing power when large areas of agriculture with sugar beets are in the general area? Just ridiculous & irresponsible. 😢
I hunt in southeast Texas. I'm going to try the short season brassica this year. Radishes are the one brassica I see deer eating the most. I have a lot of questions on screening blends. When do I plant in the deep south is one of them.
You can plant the hd screen in may
Could the Sugar Beets be used in a mix to help encourage use of a new Brassica plot?
I would use winter peas instead.
Sugar beets in brassica are a waste of time as they grow so slow and can be choked out quickly.
Thanks John , as always great info. I am looking forward to late July/early Aug to get your sweet feast brassicas and fall forage blend in the ground. In northern NY those 2 blends will keep deer in my 1.5 acre plot from Oct to Feb.
Brassica question
My brassica plantings in Northern MN big woods area get decimated by deer. My brassica plantings in Central MN surrounded by heavy agriculture get largely overlooked by deer . I have heard from a couple other folks brassicas in heavy ag area s are not as attractive to deer . Anyone know why or seen the same thing?
I would add 100 pounds per acre of winter peas to the central ag brassica.
For the big woods plot you may look at clovers and cereal grains instead
I want to try sugar beets. Could I broadcast and light disc in early June? Will I need to fence the area? Do you think I will need to fertilize. This is in a muck area with high organic matter.
Get a real good weed kill.
Broadcast and a light disc will get the seed deep enough.
Yes
19-19-19 and 46-0-0 (similar to corn) for fertilizer
A electric fence may be needed pending the local deer density
Planted sugarbeets in mid June in Central MN last year. Good germination but late planting date and fairly heavy browse prevented the beet from getting very big. Trying again this year with a May beet planting.
@@jasonmeyer4587 look at deer detour from Harper growing solutions or possibly an e fence
How big of an area does the 2# bag cover?
Can I get away with just glyphosate for weed control or do I need to use stinger and clethodim as stated in your add?
Between sugar beets and rye GRASS, seed it''s a jungle out there LOL....
Sugar beets as a stand alone spring planting are a pretty good complement to a food plot program. But not this way.
Don't beets grow deep also and u would pry have plow them up for deer get at um
Half the beet is out of the ground
😂😂 what about ohio you forgot to mention
We will get ya on one soon 😊