Little bit of a mistake on the Apex cascades. Essentially, each separate cascade resolves individually, so the imperial recruiter ETB would have had to be resolved first before moving onto the third cascade. This would have changed what the third spell would have been after ETB resolution.
Next time everyone bring cedh decks? Now Olivia going to win on her next turn, powerful deck,powerful friends, love the combat damage wins ,thanks for playing
I love how EK was so worried about the Phyrexian Scriptures going off next turn when he had a luminous broodmoth on board, the moth just got lost in all the bodies on his board.
Effects of ETBs trigger before the next cascade, so EK may have hit something different after the Imperial recruiter. I totally get the shortcut though.
Yep. I was scrolling waiting to see if someone was going to comment that first. It's just something to think about next time, along with others who may play Devastator. It's super easy to just do all four, because it's so fun and exciting though.
So I’m the comment section y’all always talk about…. If you don’t care which I know don’t… buzz off and find out why alias has lumpy Custered heart….. anyway. 1. Koma can stop sisay from activating each turn, worse case scenario. Has to use the ten/ten 2. There was a small glimpse where linvala was on the stack and zacama could’ve blown up the enchantment thingy. 3. Ali need for chaos and swinging is heart warming 4. Ek had white mana when he said he didn’t be he played sexy dryad 5. Ali could’ve played her turn before she untapped the mana vault because it’s an upkeep cost. Pay during upkeep. She had four mana 6. The cartoon effect for oliva was priceless 7. Thank for reading if you made it this far, go like the video and become a patron. I love these people, all my favorite commanders fight each other.
1. no, she had to sac 2 comas cause he could do things in responce and at the point linvala was on the field she could done nothing. btw there is a hole lot that happen after primal surge! I looked up if its posible that he loose after that resolves and yeah only if he fails the stack. cause virdian revel or selvala could have drawn him a card. the selvala would have triggered cause of kosilek, virdian cause elesh norn kills the servos but thanks to the stack, he can order the stack so that terror allways kills the players first. a lot happened and most things standed there till the game ended. Thats edh sometimes^^
@@happybrain2674 Exactly! It's the sort of thing that, if you're on the same page as your playgroup, you can kinda shortcut and "accept" your way through. Because otherwise resolving like literal HUNDREDS of triggers would take forever! In that time it'd take to resolve things, you could be shuffled up and into another game!
@@ekplayscards Massive board states get exponentially more complicated with each permanent too! It's easy for us, the viewers, to backseat because we can pause the video and we're not allocating mental resources to being on camera :D Love the show
Koma was my first deck. I didn't understand why everyone hated him. Then I played him. Then I understood. I named my deck Oppressive Serpent because it really can control a game.
AliasV, Perhaps one of the coolest parts of the game was seeing you burp your little guy. Looks like such a precious little one…and the way you say snakes, sounds like snacks!
Man. If there were ever a game that made me feel conflicted at dockside extortionist, here it is. Was the play pretty sweet? Definitely. Do I still hate dockside for making it happen? Oh absolutely. But the good banter and friends made it worth watchin all the way!
This is the second time I believe Olivia played against a Primal Surge Samut deck on camera, afaik. First one being Blackneto's on Tabletop Jocks from five months ago.
Toon Dockside, as in Dockside was taken by Pegasus with Toon World on his battlefield which turned it into a Toon!? Love it! 🎊 (if that is the reference 😆)
Forrest Imel, the artist did all sorts of meta sketches for his proofs. Some were Yugioh Toon Docksides, some were Digimon Docksidemons and some were Monopoly Man Docksides!
@27:34, If I'm counting correctly, you have 3 colour sources and 4 generic mana. Thought Vessel+Mana Vault=4 generic Birds of Paradise = 1 of any colour dual land = blue or green island = 1 blue Koma costs 4 colour pips, not 3 pips
For once would love to see Olivia's Breya with Grand Architect as her "lieutenant", tapping Breyas blue thopters for 2 colorless mana each and dropping a Blightsteel Colossus (if she had 8 thopters in play somehow.) Slap on Lightning Greaves and go face with infect. Ahh one can dream can't they? Or Breya Swarm with Eldrazi Displacer + Basalt Monolith + Clock of Omens. Previous player's endstep, tap Basalt to activate displacer, blink Breya, use the two thopters to untap Basalt, rinse and repeat. On her turn swing with 2000 thopters. Still dreaming....
Breach of protocol! Olivia (affinityartifacts) distinctly said Breya deck was upgraded, but moxfield deck link in description is unchanged. Would be great to see a Breya v2 decklist or something. I'm highly interested in choices/upgrades.
Ya know, with how much Ali loves to turn things sideways, I'm surprised I have never seen her play an Isshin deck. The panHARMonicon samurai would be a good time, no?
I assume there's not any draw a card etb effects in EK's deck that would happen as the surge resolves... or a platinum angel effect so he doesn't lose the game? I've been "got" by that when I primal surged in an all permanent deck :D Great game as always, can't wait for next week.
They exist! They're usually unavoidable. However, you stack the triggers so that they're buried deep down or you just put in your work with them on the stack! Definitely something to keep an eye out or be careful for if you're playing a Primal Surge deck or playing against it! Knowing when/how/if you can interact is important!
ok, so i know Seraph, EK, and Alias are all very beautiful people, but Olivia looks downright amazing in this video. she is always so good with her makeup, but it looks really really good today
Beast Whisperer only draws on cast which is why it's such a great card here! No stressing over draw triggers with Primal Surge! It got cut in the edit, but I was explaining to them that I could use Shaman of Forgotten Ways' ability or some combination of bouncing and recasting creatures once Logan's Linvala was removed to get their life totals down to guarantee that Terror would be enough!
About 2 hours with all our fiddling behind the scenes to get set up. This was a tech test we decided to show anywho because it was a rad game with rad friends!
so TECHNICALLY imperial recruiter etb trigger should've happened before the last 2 cascade triggers, since as you resolve cascades you cast then etb creatures 18:10
It would have been funny if there was a way to make him draw a card with all the terror damage on the stack. It would make it all go away. Problem is pretty much everything was turned off...and I do not think he built his deck in such a way as killing himself with Primal Surge is a possibility.
I used to run platinum Angel in the deck but o realized there’s always a way to not need it but also yes. The deck does technically have a ton of “you’re gonna lose” triggers on the stack. You do everything and then some on the stack above them and you shut off your opppnents points of interaction thanks to Lindsey Vala, Dromoka and Grand Abolisher!
Yes, he is safe because of the rules of the game and that he can order triggers as he wants. If putting any of those permanent cards onto the battlefield causes abilities to trigger, those abilities will wait to go on the stack until Primal Surge has finished resolving. Starting with the active player, each player puts their abilities on the stack in any order. For example; an Ankh of Misha on the board would keep the deck from going off as the stack would be filled in a bad way...APNAP...unless there is some way to Surge at instant speed. But under the current game state, an Ankh couldn't enter the opponent's control. Same with Carnival of Souls.
@38:11 Couldn't Zucama destroy the Phyrexian Scriptures enchantment that was going to kill every nonartifact creature? he came in untap all lands use his ability(basically had enough mana to kill all the enchantment/artifacts of all opponents) before passing priority of Linvala coming in?
The redundancy is in the fact that you're putting your entire deck into play all at once! You've got *everything* at your disposal! Terror's just the easy shortcut wincon to present so that we can shuffle up and go next!
Soo on the tirn that the samut player played samut and selvala. Intead of tapping your mana the play the prowling snake thing that protects your creatures you should have used your white mana to tap samut untap selvala parlay again and then if you get green mana you can then play the snake thing and have mana and then at the next players upkeep you untap your dudes and just start rinsing and repeating
First time Koma was cast, it was an illegal cast. Eilidh didn't have the 2g2u to fix the coloured mana after casting thought vessel. Great video though! Always a pleasure to see you guys on my feed.
We tried out a new way of recording the show! Let me know what you think! 👀
The show looks great as always but I'm pretty sure you have a stronger claim to the name " edhmom" now.
Seemed like clearer pictures than the spelltable rebroadcast. I like it!
Bring back the pronouns and borders for player information
I liked it! It looks sharper than before
Looks super clean, loving it
Eilidh's decks of late - recent precon, older precon, recent precon... today, off-color fetches, mana vault, doubling season. Whiplash ensues.
This pod is like the hot chocolate and fuzzy sock on a snowy Sunday afternoon of EDH pods They are the comfort.
Little bit of a mistake on the Apex cascades. Essentially, each separate cascade resolves individually, so the imperial recruiter ETB would have had to be resolved first before moving onto the third cascade. This would have changed what the third spell would have been after ETB resolution.
Next time everyone bring cedh decks? Now Olivia going to win on her next turn, powerful deck,powerful friends, love the combat damage wins ,thanks for playing
I really felt the pain during that intro, as someone who just got their 4 month and 2 year old down for the night. Sending all awesome vibes your way!
I love how EK was so worried about the Phyrexian Scriptures going off next turn when he had a luminous broodmoth on board, the moth just got lost in all the bodies on his board.
I always love games with the internal team. You can see the true friendship interactions. ❤
I like the video. I comment. I back the Patreon. Our dread bargain fulfilled.
Effects of ETBs trigger before the next cascade, so EK may have hit something different after the Imperial recruiter. I totally get the shortcut though.
Yep. I was scrolling waiting to see if someone was going to comment that first. It's just something to think about next time, along with others who may play Devastator. It's super easy to just do all four, because it's so fun and exciting though.
So I’m the comment section y’all always talk about…. If you don’t care which I know don’t… buzz off and find out why alias has lumpy Custered heart….. anyway.
1. Koma can stop sisay from activating each turn, worse case scenario. Has to use the ten/ten
2. There was a small glimpse where linvala was on the stack and zacama could’ve blown up the enchantment thingy.
3. Ali need for chaos and swinging is heart warming
4. Ek had white mana when he said he didn’t be he played sexy dryad
5. Ali could’ve played her turn before she untapped the mana vault because it’s an upkeep cost. Pay during upkeep. She had four mana
6. The cartoon effect for oliva was priceless
7. Thank for reading if you made it this far, go like the video and become a patron. I love these people, all my favorite commanders fight each other.
1. no, she had to sac 2 comas cause he could do things in responce and at the point linvala was on the field she could done nothing.
btw there is a hole lot that happen after primal surge!
I looked up if its posible that he loose after that resolves and yeah only if he fails the stack. cause virdian revel or selvala could have drawn him a card.
the selvala would have triggered cause of kosilek, virdian cause elesh norn kills the servos but thanks to the stack, he can order the stack so that terror allways kills the players first.
a lot happened and most things standed there till the game ended. Thats edh sometimes^^
@@happybrain2674 Exactly! It's the sort of thing that, if you're on the same page as your playgroup, you can kinda shortcut and "accept" your way through. Because otherwise resolving like literal HUNDREDS of triggers would take forever! In that time it'd take to resolve things, you could be shuffled up and into another game!
Oh man, I recognize those tired eyes after 2 kids. Hang in there, Eilidh! Fun game as always
I see Koma, I start worrying. This game gonna be GOOD AF. Just in time for lunch
I just want to say I love y’all’s content. You guys are amazing please keep up the great work!
It's like watching your baby take its first steps, Kooooooooooma!!!
Alias is like a pacifist stumbling upon a stockpile of nukes, but still tasked with operating them. :D
I started to feel like come back home watching your vids
EK did in fact not run himself out of white mana, because he had Dryad of the Ilysian Grove in play.
Way to pull punches :D
I totally forgot/didn’t notice I had it in play. Board states are complicated! 😩
@@ekplayscards Massive board states get exponentially more complicated with each permanent too! It's easy for us, the viewers, to backseat because we can pause the video and we're not allocating mental resources to being on camera :D
Love the show
I love Eilidh playing things on turn one.
38:47 "I like Swinging, and Dudes" 😂
"Shall I die" was genius. Thoroughly enjoyed that.
Koma was my first deck. I didn't understand why everyone hated him. Then I played him. Then I understood. I named my deck Oppressive Serpent because it really can control a game.
“Why is there custard in your heart?” Lol for some reason that got me 😂
Primal Surge is my favorite secret commander, it's the secret commander of my Atraxa Superfriends deck. So many shenanigans.
AliasV, Perhaps one of the coolest parts of the game was seeing you burp your little guy. Looks like such a precious little one…and the way you say snakes, sounds like snacks!
@47:47, Olivia accurately describing what a Primal Surge is and sometimes I wonder the names that WotC makes here x.x
Congrats on the newborn Alias!!! Love your videos and the groups play style
Play for the fun!
I will watch this video twice to support it a little :)
Woo!
Man. If there were ever a game that made me feel conflicted at dockside extortionist, here it is. Was the play pretty sweet? Definitely. Do I still hate dockside for making it happen? Oh absolutely. But the good banter and friends made it worth watchin all the way!
New filming looks good. Olivia had the comment of the game, You don’t want to play magic, just to touch your self😂
"My heart pumps a lumpy custard for you" is going to be my new favourite way to display sarcasm
Samut Samut Samut Samut, finally my favourite commander!!!
Lol Olivia’s description of that deck hahaha 😂 I’m dead
As a commander player with a newborn I feel you.
The only EDH deck I have taken apart was a Ruric Thar deck with Primal Surge as the only non-permanent. Not fun.😅
Watching this game was very one sided, the first sign shoulda been the gaea’s cradle
Congratulations Ali! Welcome to the world little one, its a scary place, you better take mom with you!
They really said ‘our upkeep’ in this one 😂
Hey @AliasV.. my partner and I just had our child back on August 25th.. His name is Wyatt as well! Best friends? Maybe.
Welcome back, Alias and welcome Wyatt!
I’m not even 10 minutes in and I’m geeking at the power 😂😂
This is the second time I believe Olivia played against a Primal Surge Samut deck on camera, afaik. First one being Blackneto's on Tabletop Jocks from five months ago.
Everyone forgetting dryad makes your lands every type hurts me a little inside.
This is one of the things we forget most often!
THE BEBE! Congrats! It beautiful.
And those were some ridonkulous gameplay shennaninans. More, plez, and thank you.
Sleep, now ❤️🤟
And this game is an example of why you run board wipes.
Yo EK I got you on the Secret tunnel song! Secret tunnel! Secret tunnel! Also, Explore sends it to the grave or back on top not to the bottom
THROUGH THE MOUNTAIN
@@ekplayscards secret secret secret scret tunnel!
Toon Dockside, as in Dockside was taken by Pegasus with Toon World on his battlefield which turned it into a Toon!? Love it! 🎊 (if that is the reference 😆)
Forrest Imel, the artist did all sorts of meta sketches for his proofs. Some were Yugioh Toon Docksides, some were Digimon Docksidemons and some were Monopoly Man Docksides!
@@ekplayscards that’s amazing! It’s so sick! I winched at the decks shine! Congrats on your win!
38:43 Eilidh says "Because I like swinging and dudes and stuff". Eilidh! I'm shocked. You're a new mother. What sort of example is tha?. :)
Damn I have the Secret Tunnel song stuck in my head! And Olivia you HAVE to watch Avatar The Last Airbender. The story is amazing!
This was such a fun game!
Spicy decks today... It's nice seeing the spice and not cedh
@27:34, If I'm counting correctly, you have 3 colour sources and 4 generic mana.
Thought Vessel+Mana Vault=4 generic
Birds of Paradise = 1 of any colour
dual land = blue or green
island = 1 blue
Koma costs 4 colour pips, not 3 pips
Hope the little one is doing well
Great episode ✌️
Well that's probably the best way I've seen surge go off. Just a shame that it wasn't a little more explosive lol. Great as always ladies.
olivia! love the new breya deck! could we get an updated list? moxfield says updated 10 months ago
For once would love to see Olivia's Breya with Grand Architect as her "lieutenant", tapping Breyas blue thopters for 2 colorless mana each and dropping a Blightsteel Colossus (if she had 8 thopters in play somehow.) Slap on Lightning Greaves and go face with infect. Ahh one can dream can't they?
Or Breya Swarm with Eldrazi Displacer + Basalt Monolith + Clock of Omens. Previous player's endstep, tap Basalt to activate displacer, blink Breya, use the two thopters to untap Basalt, rinse and repeat. On her turn swing with 2000 thopters.
Still dreaming....
Actually I came here just for that and definitely not to see how three people look at how one touches himself.
Lovely, now I have Karma Chameleon stuck in my head...only Karma Chameleon is replaced with Koma, Cosmos Serpent.😄
Breach of protocol! Olivia (affinityartifacts) distinctly said Breya deck was upgraded, but moxfield deck link in description is unchanged. Would be great to see a Breya v2 decklist or something. I'm highly interested in choices/upgrades.
I'm bugging her to update!
@@EDHijinks Came back to confirm this was updated awhile back. Thanks!
Koma is so good, I’ve been building a CEDH deck around him! Clearly Eilidh is playing for keeps now that Wyatt is here.
I think the show looks very crisp. Camera upgrade? Congrats on the little one Miss V!
We're recording at 4K now! Next episode will have my new cam in 👀
Ya know, with how much Ali loves to turn things sideways, I'm surprised I have never seen her play an Isshin deck. The panHARMonicon samurai would be a good time, no?
Can you see the future??? 😱
These sound effects have me dying from laughter at work omg yall gonna get me fired lmaooo
does EK not run temur sabertooth? he could of did his combo at the 24 minute mark
Primal Surge got everywhere, what a mess
Timmy’s gonna Timmy! 🤣
I assume there's not any draw a card etb effects in EK's deck that would happen as the surge resolves... or a platinum angel effect so he doesn't lose the game? I've been "got" by that when I primal surged in an all permanent deck :D
Great game as always, can't wait for next week.
They exist! They're usually unavoidable. However, you stack the triggers so that they're buried deep down or you just put in your work with them on the stack! Definitely something to keep an eye out or be careful for if you're playing a Primal Surge deck or playing against it! Knowing when/how/if you can interact is important!
dam good show, loved the decks.
Entertaining as always!
Olivia roasting EK’s deck at the end was good times. Intentional durdling is one of the worst things to see in commander for my personal taste.
ok, so i know Seraph, EK, and Alias are all very beautiful people, but Olivia looks downright amazing in this video. she is always so good with her makeup, but it looks really really good today
Love the sushi hoodie!!
I would have checked the totals that Terror of the Peaks could have inflicted, as there were Beast Whisperer triggers on the stack too. 😈
Beast Whisperer only draws on cast which is why it's such a great card here! No stressing over draw triggers with Primal Surge! It got cut in the edit, but I was explaining to them that I could use Shaman of Forgotten Ways' ability or some combination of bouncing and recasting creatures once Logan's Linvala was removed to get their life totals down to guarantee that Terror would be enough!
@@ekplayscards I was thinking of Guardian Project! 😂
@@ekplayscards do you use Temur Sabertooth? such a good green bounce card.
@@hemjold I do! It's the reason why you can get away with not worrying about running out of creatures for terror of the peaks sometimes!
I definitely wanna c that koma list
It's up!
Awesome content as usual! How long did this episode take to record I wonder? Olivia grew some pretty long nails by the end ha!
About 2 hours with all our fiddling behind the scenes to get set up. This was a tech test we decided to show anywho because it was a rad game with rad friends!
Who are you and what have you done with Eilidh, the wholesome commander player?
My lack of sleep sent me to the dark side 😴
Congrats on the baby! Welcome to the club haha
Thank you!
so TECHNICALLY imperial recruiter etb trigger should've happened before the last 2 cascade triggers, since as you resolve cascades you cast then etb creatures
18:10
I really want that sol ring mat!
it was nice to see Alias play a real deck as oppose to the massive amount of premade commander decks.
Big agree. I don’t like it when she’s playing a precon against finer tuned decks it seems unfair.
Oh wook at da widdle baby!!!
I like the phyrexian playmat elesh norn and aliasv playmat..
It would have been funny if there was a way to make him draw a card with all the terror damage on the stack. It would make it all go away. Problem is pretty much everything was turned off...and I do not think he built his deck in such a way as killing himself with Primal Surge is a possibility.
I used to run platinum Angel in the deck but o realized there’s always a way to not need it but also yes. The deck does technically have a ton of “you’re gonna lose” triggers on the stack. You do everything and then some on the stack above them and you shut off your opppnents points of interaction thanks to Lindsey Vala, Dromoka and Grand Abolisher!
Yes, he is safe because of the rules of the game and that he can order triggers as he wants.
If putting any of those permanent cards onto the battlefield causes abilities to trigger, those abilities will wait to go on the stack until Primal Surge has finished resolving. Starting with the active player, each player puts their abilities on the stack in any order.
For example; an Ankh of Misha on the board would keep the deck from going off as the stack would be filled in a bad way...APNAP...unless there is some way to Surge at instant speed. But under the current game state, an Ankh couldn't enter the opponent's control. Same with Carnival of Souls.
What a 😊 cute little Brushwagg!
@38:11 Couldn't Zucama destroy the Phyrexian Scriptures enchantment that was going to kill every nonartifact creature? he came in untap all lands use his ability(basically had enough mana to kill all the enchantment/artifacts of all opponents) before passing priority of Linvala coming in?
I'm surprised you don't run Purphoros god of the forge as a redundancy for Terror of the peaks.
The redundancy is in the fact that you're putting your entire deck into play all at once! You've got *everything* at your disposal! Terror's just the easy shortcut wincon to present so that we can shuffle up and go next!
Hell of a turn one this game Alias lmaooo I was like when will it end 😂
I did things!!
Wouldn't the louminous moth prevent most stuff from dying on EK's board if the board was wiped? i they would just return flying wouldn't they?
is "verry ketchup" the same as "berry ketchup"?
Casting big dumb things, this is the way
I am a dwarf and im digging a hole! Diggy Diggy Hole! Diggy Diggy Hole!
Mixing artifacts and lands. 🤣🤣
Soo on the tirn that the samut player played samut and selvala. Intead of tapping your mana the play the prowling snake thing that protects your creatures you should have used your white mana to tap samut untap selvala parlay again and then if you get green mana you can then play the snake thing and have mana and then at the next players upkeep you untap your dudes and just start rinsing and repeating
I stayed for the post pardom hijinks.
First time Koma was cast, it was an illegal cast. Eilidh didn't have the 2g2u to fix the coloured mana after casting thought vessel. Great video though! Always a pleasure to see you guys on my feed.
How can you play dockside in a white green deck ?
Samut is Red Green White
Just as a thought wouldn't the Luminos Broodmoth return all of EK's non flyers as flyers if it got to that point?
It’s true and we weren’t thinking about that AT ALL. 🫣😅
I see Koma immediately like
Enjoyable watch
Zacama can't do direct face damage
there's your problem you were playing blue stuff...but world serpent is like half blue?
OLIVIA IS THE FUCKING BEST!!! LOVE HER!!!
phyrexian scriptures was a good attempt but broodmoth would of saved most of the board