Orthodox Ecclesiology - Lesson 5: The 8th Oecumenical Council & the Great Schism

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  • @raymondcannon2141
    @raymondcannon2141 3 роки тому +15

    Brilliant lecture, Father. I'm looking to convert to Orthodoxy, and I consider this series invaluable. I'm very much looking forward to the next ep! Glory to God! Thank our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and thank you!
    God bless you in the Name of the Father, and of the Son Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit. May God strengthen us, and grant us wisdom to rebuke heresies, and may He draw all to Him through the Holy Orthodox Church! Amen.

    • @taranmurray7046
      @taranmurray7046 Рік тому +1

      Dear Brother, How has your conversion journey unfolded now?

    • @raymondcannon2141
      @raymondcannon2141 Рік тому +4

      @@taranmurray7046 Wonderfully. I've been baptised and received into the Body of Jesus Christ our Lord! Glory to God!

  • @fatherjamesbernstein7667
    @fatherjamesbernstein7667 3 роки тому +5

    Another OUTSTANDING lecture. Thank you so very much Fr. Peter for this series of lectures on Ecclesiology.

  • @NJP9036
    @NJP9036 3 роки тому +10

    Thank you Father Peter for this lesson.

  • @orthochristos
    @orthochristos 3 роки тому +5

    Brilliant, Father. Have a blessed Μεγάλη Τεσσαρακοστή!

  • @MaximusWolfe
    @MaximusWolfe 3 роки тому +4

    Many thank you’s, dear, faithful priest,

  • @gigig2492
    @gigig2492 3 роки тому +6

    Blessed Lent everyone! ☦️🙏🏻

  • @Durnyful
    @Durnyful 3 роки тому +4

    Father Peter, fantastic lesson! You pulled together lots of pieces of information that I knew but didn't have pegged out. Many thanks again.

  • @ryrocks9487
    @ryrocks9487 Рік тому

    Going back through and watching so much of your content. Thanks, Father.

  • @ivansince91
    @ivansince91 3 роки тому +5

    God bless you father Peter.

  • @derekwfrazier
    @derekwfrazier Рік тому

    Amazing work Fr

  • @0utc4st1985
    @0utc4st1985 3 роки тому +4

    Even before this council the issue of papal supremacy was made very clear early on in canon 2 of the second ecumenical council in Constantinople in 381 that bishops will not interfere with other bishops jurisdictions. Being first was just an honor, nothing more.

  • @joshuagilmore7522
    @joshuagilmore7522 Рік тому

    Fr. Can you please point to a video that talks specifically about the Filioque history and how some of the East did, or did not, accept the procession of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son. There are quite a few Catholic apologists coming out lately presenting evidence that the eastern churches were accepting this.

  • @stalkek
    @stalkek 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you Father Peter, from Ireland. As you’ll understand, this isn’t the most intellectually ‘sensual’ of topics and a bit of a commitment to try to keep focused, but as you say, very important and gives one pegs to rest one’s understanding of these matters on.
    One random thing coming to mind is you mentioning elsewhere intellectual figures like Nicholas Berdayev coming back to Orthodoxy but bringing with them corruptions or heresies in their thinking. There is a very good book by Berdayev on Dostoevsky, but interestingly the most striking point I recall where Berdayev criticises Dostoevsky is where he says Dostoevsky is very unfair in his treatment of Roman Catholicism as a false church. A quick check and I see the line, “Dostoevsky had an extremely inadequate and entirely exterior knowledge of Catholicism.” Berdyaev tried to claim the true target of the totalitarianism Dostoevsky warned against was material socialism, and bringing in the Roman Church - like in the Legend of the Grand Inquisitor - was distorted. We have a Roman pope now basically advocating injections of “vaccines” including fetal matter from … It’s not like they don’t have that time to educate themselves on these matters. That is just one sliver to choose from but I think Dostoevsky was far more prescient than Berdyaev here.
    All that because the negatively tinged Berdyaev mention you made elsewhere, which maybe surprised me a bit at the time, is just being fleshed out now. And thanks for this series and all other material here!

    • @OrthodoxEthos
      @OrthodoxEthos  2 роки тому +3

      Thank you, Andrew. We base ourselves on the contemporary saints and fathers. In this point here, we largely were basing our stance on the critique of Fr. Seraphim Rose. We also trusted Dostoyevsky. It is, as you say, quite apparent he was very insightful on the nature of Catholicism. What is striking is that Berdyaev did not understand that the roots of revolution, of the delusions of the materialists and socialists, rest in the past in the West, in the rationalism of the scholastics and in general in the apostasy of the Franks and Protestantism of the Pope.

    • @stalkek
      @stalkek 2 роки тому +1

      @@OrthodoxEthos Thank you for the reply and very interesting how the full fruits of things can come much later down the line, to the point where the connection can be seemingly invisible.

  • @Zappa2D
    @Zappa2D 3 роки тому +3

    the franks are the begining of an emperial project financed by venician Oligarchy which are the old Oligarchy of Rome, both were and still pagen

  • @Dlee-eo5vv
    @Dlee-eo5vv 3 роки тому +2

    Do we orthos have a library like the new advent of the RC that has our collection of councils, ect?

  • @mroberg8364
    @mroberg8364 2 роки тому

    Which council was Origen condemned and what were the main reasons?

  • @zivotjesve
    @zivotjesve 3 роки тому +3

    I think that you can see a very reasonable fighting for conservation of orthodox path to salvation, in recently reposed serbian bishop Artemije. Many of his works are very much simillar to Fathers of the Church that you are discrabing. Sorry for any gramatik mistakes.

  • @LHMOM.8610
    @LHMOM.8610 3 роки тому +1

    Father, who is the Ortho theologian you referred to, who claimed that the RC's have the Eucharistic?

  • @mattstor555
    @mattstor555 Рік тому

    The only information here that seems to make no sense is when you say that the Franks were iconoclasts. What is the source for this?

    • @OrthodoxEthos
      @OrthodoxEthos  Рік тому

      They rejected the seventh ecumenical council. They also claimed that the orthodox took out the filioque from the creed. Tragic and laughable.

  • @jocelynyared2150
    @jocelynyared2150 3 роки тому +2

    POLITICS kills FAITH.

  • @jonathanreeve7823
    @jonathanreeve7823 3 роки тому +4

    2 thumbs down???? But why???

    • @vanessac.7040
      @vanessac.7040 3 роки тому +3

      @Jonathan Reeve I know right!! I’ve ask that same question myself lol 😄I’ve noticed that it seems like it might be the same people that click that thumbs down. If you notice and could even go to other great Orthodox channels like Father Spyridon channel same thing. But it’s they way of the world and those who don’t understand. May God heal their hearts and mind.☦️

    • @MariaMorrell-icxc
      @MariaMorrell-icxc 3 роки тому +2

      Off topic, forgive me, but is that an icon of Saint Sophrony (your avatar)? Maybe I am wrong. I don't think I have seen one like that before.

    • @jonathanreeve7823
      @jonathanreeve7823 3 роки тому +2

      @@MariaMorrell-icxc hi yes he’s my spiritual grandfather

    • @MariaMorrell-icxc
      @MariaMorrell-icxc 3 роки тому +2

      @@jonathanreeve7823 What a blessing.

    • @jonathanreeve7823
      @jonathanreeve7823 3 роки тому +2

      @@MariaMorrell-icxc thank you. Fr Zacharias his disciple is a holy man

  • @stevenmathewson5757
    @stevenmathewson5757 3 роки тому +1

    "It's not possible for a layperson...." so sad that we are being held hostage by heretical hirelings who are like goats when it comes to the teachings of the shepherd and the teaching of the church, could you possibly explore what we tiny laypeople (perhaps historically and at present ) can do and what we should do as our church falls into "unholiness" Caesaropapism? I always thought the church was one body, didn't realize how a wrong headedness would ignore the rest of the lowly laypeople.