Complacency in Canada: The Algo Centre Mall Collapse
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2021
- The How and Why of the Algo Centre Mall Collapse from June 2012 in Elliot Lake, Ontario - Canada. Decades of negligence, apathy and preventable errors led to this tragic mall disaster.
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I was wondering when I saw you both had made videos on the same topic at the same time. 'Grats on the colab!
@@madtrucker0983 >>> Same for me.
Great collab, I came straight from his video. Very interesting this one.
I also just came here from Fascinating Horror. Your video is superb, thank you for sharing. Looking forward to more collaborations.
Took me a while to get here after watching FH's video, but subbed. :)
Great collab producing excellent content, hope to see you guys work together again at some stage.
Just came from Fascinating horror, glad for this collaboration. Another interesting channel thank you for your hard work.
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I'm here from Fascinating Horror and am currently rubbing my hands together at having another similar channel to binge!
Brick Immortal has some interesting dead retail videos.
Same.
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Check out Dan Bell, Bright Sun Films, Sal, Defunctland, proper people, and Brick for tons of content. Another dirty room and abandoned are some of the best series on youtube. All of the content creators deserve all the views and applause.
@@Strongbah43 Oh I've already been subbed to BSF, Dan, and Defunctland for years and I'm a patron for BSF.😊 I've also really enjoyed Expedition Themepark.
The scary thing is that you always assume that public structures are safe and built to a "common sense" code when in reality, corners are most likely being cut whenever possible.
Nicely round out story with Fascinating Horror!
I don't trust.
Nah I always walk into a structure with the mindset this could collapse followed by what if it collapses while I'm in here.
Building code is an excellent example of "no such thing as common sense". Some rules are absolutely nonsensical and completely assinine, while other rules do a completely inadequate job of ensuring safety.
90% of code requirements are just crap on a big braindead checklist.
Yeah, but in some places it's more possible than in others
And the Colosseum in Italy, built in 81 AD, is still on foot
I’m here because I’m a retired architect who’s just loves your investigative detailed stories ... these video presentations are EXACTLY what we in the design world need as ammunition to show developers/ clients and the building managers who will be in charge of the upkeep.
I tried showing my mom the "Seconds from Disaster" episode on the Sanpoong mall collapse, and after noticing her falling asleep, I suggested switching to your video on it, and she took in every minute of it. In fact, I even learned new facts about it despite already having watched it 2 times before!
As a Canadian who grew up in a small(ish) city, I never realized that a local mall being a community hub was such a unique concept... interesting!
Malls use to be a very big part of a community. I believe because Elliot Lake is a retirement town, full of elders, it made it possible for a mall to still survive. Old people like the convince of an indoor mall instead of going to 5 different places.
That said, I heard that many stores were empty even in this mall.
@@foxyandlucy6392 malls are dying for sure, but hindsight this apparently Canadian thing explains why they're doing so at a much slower rate than in the US.
@@foxyandlucy6392 Wait'll they learn to use the internet. That'll be that.
@@foxyandlucy6392 Yes. The mall was dead by the time of the collapse. Only Zellers and the grocery shop made it viable. A No Frills was built outside the Mall and there was an A&P at the far end of the town, This lead to less people using the grocery store in the mall.
Our mall used to be one of those community hubs before most of it shut down in 2019. It’s now mostly box stores now. These days, the Walmart seems to be my town’s gathering spot.
Given the amount of water damage in that building, I wonder how many employees who were there for hours every day ended up getting sick from mold? You know it had to be a breeding ground for it.
I was thinking the same thing...like, I could smell the mildewiness from what he described in the video.
Many. And for years. I live in a town near Eliot Lake. It was known there was issues for do long. But nepotism is very strong in small town Canada. A small amount of ppl generaly hold power, and nepotism is rampant.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Those poor librarians and their valiant attempt to preserve their books. The damage in this story wasn't only during the collapse. I can't imagine how much sicker this constant, poorly addressed exposure to water and mold made this community. Heartbreaking.
@@TORchic1 yep. 👍
It stank for a customer, nevermind the employees
Came here after the Champlain Towers collapse. I can see a common theme occuring here. Building code in the 1970s and early 80s looks to have been very lax and often ignored all together. Real basic stuff like proper waterproofing, how much would it have cost in the grand scheme of things to have actually built these structures safely?
Probably not much. In the end, the human cost of these cost cutting constructions has been devastating. Profit should never be prioritised over safety!
Building codes have been strengthened since the 70s and 80s, but even for its time the Champlain Tower South was right on the edge of being able to support itself, when built. Some drawings filed with the county were not stamped, with others being non-dated. What a rush to completion!
the 80's is really when consumerism and flaunting your wealth became the norm, starting this whole wave of companies, employers cutting costs to get richer in order to please shareholders.
The contrast between commercial/industrial structures built in the 60s vs the 80s is very striking. Part of this was groeong pains in converting between often using masonry structures to steel structures (often due to cost).
There was a lot of subdivision homes being built at the same time so the building department was underresorced to properly inspect everything anyway.
Now that you mention it, I notice a trend that buildings from around that time turn up disused and abandoned at a disproportionate rate, and it seems like they’re almost always demolished and replaced instead of being renovated like buildings from both older and newer time periods often are. Makes me wonder if they tend to develop problems that are more trouble than they’re worth. Glad I don’t live in a building from around then tbh.
One of my older colleagues during my Railway career used to say that Railway Safety is a story of action taken after hard and tragic lessons learnt.
That statement is also true for many other industries.
Yes... safety rules are written in blood. And safety costs money... money that doesn't get spent until mandated as the result of a tragedy. In the aviation industry they call it "tombstone technology."
That is true. There have been nightmares with trains in past cause people couldn't communicate all the compartmentalized tasks like checking car weights and adding breaks. Now train operators have to put enough brakes on the train cars assuming max load, they used to have to wright down the weight of every car, and because people cut corners and got the weights wrong and derailments happened, now every train is pretty well maxed out with breakage. I saw a show on a derailment in the us, and the main problem was that they miscalculated the weight and didn't put enough breaks on the train cars before it left the train yard. Now its impossible for trains to not have enough breakage and become unable to stop from miscalculating the weight of the cars and not having enough breakage as a result. Also the ones putting on the breaks and the ones writing down the weight are not the same people, they pass things on after shift, so there was many ways things could go wrong. It made sense to me though, that trains would go from common derailments to uncommon derailments once they made that change.
I was there when it happened. That day, like many ppl I know who had planned on going there had their plans change and went a few hours later than planned. I remember envisioning it in my head that morning that I was planning on parking on the roof just beyond the section that collapsed. Once finally in downtown Elliot lake a couple hours later than planned the road had barricades set at both ends of the street. A few friends were inside when it came down, fortunately for them they received mild injury, bumps scrapes.. As far as buckets set up in stores to catch water leaking was a reoccurring theme every year. As a teenager it wasn’t uncommon to hear someone at the mall watching the multitude of leaks to say “this is going to collapse soon” that sentiment was common.
Thanks for sharing. I was Born and raised in Elliot lake. The mall was the glue to the community and it has not been the same since. This mall should have been closed in the late 90’s way before this tragic day.
Grew up going to that mall, i was 15 when it collapsed, remember it like it was yesterday. me and my friend went on the roof and were standing at the edge of the hole looking down inside at the disaster. We weren't there long before the police had told us to leave, what a wild time.
I live in Elliot lake, have my whole life, it’s crazy how 10 years later we still have no shopping here and how much this still affects us
Yes it seems that they were only partially able to replace the retail space that got destroyed. Certainly the fact that you often have to wait for visiting specialists at the local hospital has long been off-putting for local residents too there and other small urban centres in Canada too.
It's amazing so many businesses stay there with holes in the ceilings to prevent the build-up of water. There were so many signs and nobody did nothing to find out why it was happening.
i know i lived in Elliot Lake when that happened the roof leaked for years almost had to wear a raincoat when shopping there
Most people here live in extreme denial because they watch and believe TV which constantly creates lies and excuses to cover the insanity of human existence.
Oy vey, life is getting complicated and now the crazies have begun WW3.
C'est la vie, until death do we part...
Just came here from fascinating horror, love these kind of collabs, it's how YT should be 👍 subbed
here after the collapse of the champlain towers condominiums, also looking to be a combination of water damage, lack of sufficient waterproofing, and total inaction by contractors and management... absolutely infuriating, and completely needless tragedies. ugh.
Moment of Silence ~ Surfside Florida and this indoor community center.
Here from Fascinating Horror. Glad to meet you. As with FH, it makes such a change to watch an instructive, detailed report without lurid, sensationalistic language and booming horror film music. The horror of events such as this is apparent in the facts alone without the need for scandalous narration. Have liked and subscribed, and look forward to watching more of your films.
I heard the music, and was like "hey, this is the fascinating horror music!" Super excited to absorb all these videos too!
Fascinating horror sent me here too! But roof top parking on malls is very very common here in New Zealand, admittedly some city’s get more snow meaning grit than others, but as a general rule we are prone to earthquakes
Same in Australia, very common. No snow in WA though
@@rolly4x4 we do get a fair amount of ice on the rooftop parking even without snow, and grit gets put down every winter almost
@@SadisticSenpai61 Oh i do agree, it seems as tho from this video, i could be wrong tho, that roof top parking at malls etc isnt that common in Canada?
Our parking lots for malls managed to hold during a 7.5 magnitude quake but alot of vechile’s got stranded there for weeks cause it wasnt deemed safe for them to be collected
@@SadisticSenpai61 if it was a idea added late in construction it sure would explain alot more.
Funny in a Interesting way how parking on roof tops is norm in some places but not others
This is truly an irrelevant and unhelpful addition these comments, but I just wanted to say that I've always wanted to visit NZ and Aus 🥺 hopefully someday. I'm from Ireland, now living in Scotland, and I've heard a lot of folks say that some parts of NZ are very like Ireland. Big hugs from one very green, sleepy and sheep ridden Island nation to another.
I remember that disaster…is was so sad. I never heard of it before..but after learning about the disaster, I’m shocked it was allowed to leak for so long before being forced to fix it, as normally, Canada has some of the strictest building codes in the world (I use to be in the construction business)..but corruption is sadly one thing that’s international 😰😰😰
Do you happen to know how these women died? I realize it is a grim subject, but if they succumbed due to asphyxiation and not injuries, its seems all the more negligent that they could not figure out a way to provide them with some oxygen, water, food, basic first aid supplies or whatever (like you see in mine collapse rescue operations...now that I think about it, somewhat ironic that his occurred in a region known for mining operations!!!) while they determined the best way to extricate them!!! I mean, were they discovered to be pinned down by debris or were they in an actual breather space that allowed some limited movement...but would ultimately become their tomb/crypt? Blunt force trauma seems unlikely if they were still alive hours and hours later, even the next day!! The stuff of nightmares.
@@michaelesgro9506 they couldn'tocate them right away. They weren't sure how many were in there at first. Everyone in town was calling family and friends for the first day or so to make sure they weren't in there. There were other people who got out, but these two ladies were directly under the part that collapsed and were buried. The older one would have died immediately, but there is speculation by the lived ones of the younger lady that they thought they heard her knocking. Neither lady was heard calling for help.
I’m so glad the FH collaboration led me to your channel!
Clever name and very interesting content!❤️👍
I love your name ❤️👍 my speed!
@@mattgaetz5548 thanks!😊
So great to see 2 channels not only supporting each other but actually using their content to compliment the other's content, very interesting idea!
Subscribed, great channel!
I remember this day all too well! I was going to go to the mall, but decided I didn't feel like it. Shortly after, got a text from a friend working there saying that it collapsed. Was a very tragic event.
Here from FH....Luv your content...subbed.
I love your videos on these structural failures - I think yours is the only one about Katowice I’ve found. And I’m a fan of Fascinating Horror, too, so cool to see that you’ve teamed up.
I hope one day one of you covers the Philadelphia crane collapse that killed several people in the neighboring Goodwill store. My office is near where it happened, and it was SHOCKING. It involved an unlicensed & inebriated crane operator and a nest of corruption at L&I, yet it seems to be largely unknown outside of the region.
I just came from Fascinating Horror. He suggested I watch this video, and I'm glad I did! You two make a great team! Hope you do more collaborations with him!
I came here for the mall collapse lol. I had just moved away when it collapsed but grew up going to that mall. A lot of good memories there, it was nostalgic to see the inside of it again.
Fascinating Horror sent me over! It’s been a while since I’ve watched your films. Hope you’re doing well!
damn, two channels i really like teaming up? good tuesday morning
Damn. Woolco and Dominion. I haven't heard those names in a long time.
Right?
Same with zellers 😂
Me neither
I came here right after Fascinating Horror. So cool you all did a collab. You have an amazing voice man, your content is very informative too!
If I ever see roof tarps being used in a building, I'm getting out IMMEDIATELY!
In my high school in the 1970s in the Bronx, NY, we had a few classrooms with trash cans and sheets of plastic over ceiling tiles. One of them, a 40 minute math class, I used to leave with my nose all stuffed up and wheezing from the mold. The teacher got sick a lot and left mid-year. We had lots of substitutes and sometimes there’d be no teacher. We’d be given an assignment to do in study hall. If you didn’t understand it, oh well.
You never disappoint!! Awesome collab!! This was a new one for me, thank you so much!!
Fascinating Horror's description of your work made this video impossible to miss...
Thank goodness :D
Great vid/collab! Subbed (Nice description/pinned comment work - always makes ringing the alert bell an easy decision)
FH sent me. :)
Fascinating Horror sent me! Hello! 😁👍🏻
The inquiry was televised and I watched most of it. Incompetence, negligence, penny pinching and a general disregard for safety, not to mention buck passing were all on display. In addition to the salt used to melt the snow on the roof was the fact that the heavy equipment used to remove the snow not only repeatedly ripped up the sealant between the slabs, allowing the salty water to penetrate but also put enormous stress on the structure.
The videos go really well together and it doesn't feel repetitive at all. Best collab I've seen in a while! Thank you for the work you put into this!
Fascinating Horror brought me here and glad they did!
I used to spend my summers in Elliot Lake ever year. To me, coming from a farm in the middle of nowhere, Elliot Lake was a huge city and the Algo Centre Mall was my favourite place to hang out. I absolutely loved it there. I actually remember walking around the mall and seeing leaks EVERYWHERE. Huge portions of the wall were barred off because of all the water coming in. This was YEARS before the collapse. Insane.
Something similar happened in a hospital in Atlanta, Georgia USA. I dont think it was nearly as bad as this, but it makes me wonder just how many buildings of the era had structural problems.
Great videos. I'm subbed to both channels, and when the videos popped up in my feed, I thought, "What a bizarre coincidence!" But this was an awesome collab. Well done.
Great to hear it, thanks for saying that Fauntleroy!
G'day from Australia.. good collaboration! Looking forward to more.
I just came over from fascinating horror. I really like what I see so far. I can't wait to dig in to your back catalog!
Came from Fascinating Horror and this is a great vid! Thanks for this collab, I’m excited to have found this channel!
Wow! Two of the most talented and informative youtubers collaborating! Thank you guys! Always thoroughly researched and respectfully presented, you both make great content. Bravo!
My two favorite channels together. As soon as I heard the music I knew. Keep up the amazing work. A lot of these horrible “accidents” wouldn’t be known without the work you guys do to get the stories out. ♥️
Awesome video.. as someone from Ontario Canada this is just insane to me. I’ve also worked in the safety industry in construction and i agree it’s ABSOLUTELY annoying the complete negligence and greed that goes on in certain places.
Here from Fascinating Horror - what a recommendation 🤩
I love it when I find a new channel to Binge! Loving what you’re doing 👍🏻
I can't wait to finish work and give this a watch!
I came here from Fascinating Horror, and I'm so glad I did! I've watched a few of your videos, and I love all the engineering knowledge and lingo (I work for an engineering firm). You just got yourself a new subscriber!
Found your channel earlier today and have been binge watching all afternoon. Brother, you are truly doing Gods work. Keep up the great research and presentations.
Anyone else from Fascinating Horror? Yay, a new channel to watch! 👍👍👏👏
Thanks for the collab! I watch both of you guys!
Came here from Fascinating Horror and immediately subscribed! Looking forward to bingeing your excellent work
Been binge watching your channel all day, thank you 💙
With Fascinating Horror we've got two of the best "Why bad things happen" channels in one place. Great piece. Would love to see more collabs like this.
What a neat collaboration! Both very well made and interesting videos. It was really cool to get two different approaches to the story from two very talented creators!. Great work!
In San Francisco we still have several Safeway’s with rooftop parking. Thanks for the video!
True, and many other places as well, but without the constant salt load dripping off cars all winter, or the more extreme seasonal changes (parts of Canada are plenty hot all summer, frigid all winter - which is hard on concrete/steel structures). It is usually a combination of factors, as most “disaster” videos find - not that rooftop parking is necessarily bad.
I love both channels and couldn't ask for a better collab.
Wow I totally forgot about this story, but I remember it was a huge deal at the time it happened, mainly cuz it wasn`t an "Out of the blue" incident. There had been so many warnings of problems for years. Plus big incident in a small town (Elliot Lake has like 10k people) and the fact that it was in a northern community made it worse for the government.
Great vid Immortar, you and FH do amazing work. Love your vids.
Came from FHorror....your videos are great...now im getting comfy with my tea and blanket and listen to you..keep up the good work
I found your channel a week ago while looking for something to put on in the background while I draw, and somehow stumbled across your Sampoong Mall video. For some reason, videos like these ones and the other disaster ones are terrifying to me but also morbidly intriguing. anyways the quality and research put into these videos are great! hope you have a good day
Sent by fascinating horror, remarkable detailed analysis in this video.. Subscribed!
Great to watch both your and fascinating horror's videos on the same collapse. A brilliant collaboration 👏
Just came over from Fascinating Horror. Subscribed! Excellent job!
What a great surprise to see two channels I love collaborating! Awesome videos from both of you, and I hope this brings lots of new people to your channel :D
I am here from Fascinating Horror!!
After now watching some of your shows on closing malls. Large accidents & more I really like it!!! I have subscribed to get more as you make it but I am happy you have a deep library for me to binge watch this weekend.
I have some photos, video and stories about some malls that are interesting. Malls that underwent evolutions to become a college campuses, sports centers, artist cooperative work/live space desperate remodels that actually worked and more. I never knew till now there was a community kind of into this like I am.
Came from Fascinating horror. Another interesting channel thank you for your work.
Great collaboration. Really enjoy both of your channels content.
Man. That is heart wrenching. Bringing a community together and then tearing it apart.
I was sent by F.H. one of the best channels on UA-cam in my opinion. This was a great video and looks like a great channel. I like the animations in this video. Keep up the awesome work!
So glad I subscribed, these vids are incredible
I just came from Fascinating Horror! Thanks for uploading!
I subbed as well! ❤
Also came from Fascinating Horror and subscribed. I already love your voice. I’m about to check out the rest of your videos.
Ived been watching your vids like a marathon now... now I have word for it "fascinating horror"
Here from Fascinating Horror too. Can’t believe I’ve never seen your videos before. Great content!!
Came from fascinating horrors recent video
Looking forward to exploring your channel. Love this sort of content ❤
Oh yeah! Two awesome channels collaborating. Great video.
Fascinating Horror fan here!!! Love both channels 🥰
Fascinating Horror sent me! Excellent video, I live in Ontario and I remember when this happened. New sub!
Just came from Fascinating Horror's channel. Now subscribed to you as well. Great video!
Came here from Fascinating Horror. Subbed! :) Great video!
Great video, and eerily reminiscent of what's unfolding with the Surfside Condo collapse.
In Canada, we've been losing our shopping malls to big box stores & internet stores, which is stupid. Our malls are seniors drop ins where they can walk around without slipping on ice.
I was already subscribed before the collaboration but really happy to see you work together on this. (: The whole idea of this building sounds really cool... if it had been built properly though.
Fascinating Horror sent me here and now I'm subscribed and binge watching your videos.
Cool collaboration, thanks for the video.
I used to work at Shopper's and Daily's (downstairs) back when I was 16. (30 years ago). And I still remember the leaking ceilings everywhere, along with the rusted exposed 'I' beams. It's been over 20 years since I left Elliot Lake, but what a sad day that was when I heard the news.
I’m really enjoying these videos, great content
I'm so glad you guys teamed up!
Valuable info to keep in mind ... TY *Brick Immortar* & *Fascinating Horror* ...TY both 👍👍👍👍👍
Great great collaboration!!!
Love this guy what a fantastic channel!!
I saw you from fascinating a couple months ago with the South Korea mall collapse after I ran out of his content. Good to find you, and great to see you two collab. Blessings.
Fantastic video! Like others, I'm here from Fascinating Horror's video on this disaster. I really enjoyed this collaboration!
Your video and the collaborative one by Fascinating Horror really tell the story of this awful disaster. None of the malls where I am have parking on rooftops of the retail center; there are adjacent, either as ramps or just plain parking lots. Having watched both of your videos, I’m very glad since I live in a state on the Canadian border and road salt is an every-winter reality. But I’ll be looking more closely at the ceilings in the parking ramp the next time I’m at the Mall of America.