Debbie Brown Her voice over interviews are funny .The ones where you can’t see the announcer. She puts on a very serious newscasters voice that isn’t anywhere close to her real voice.Lol I like her anyway.
Hannah Ann is kinda clownish lol. How do you date someone for 3.5 years, not develop feelings of love and expect to get engaged after 6 weeks of dating a guy who is also dating multiple other women, on a television show?
Because she was young. I can see why she didn’t feel it was love. But she’s still not ready. Bachelor needs to really stop casting people who are just legit not there yet. Age and life experience goes a long way.
Or guys, when you are young, you think what you are feeling is love. Likely it is a kind of love. But how she knows it wasn’t real true love that you have for someone you want to spend your life with. Also if you are gonna bring up the 6 weeks thing why is that a Hannah specific criticism when by your logic it would end up applying to everyone. Because other people have been in long relationships too but realized it wasn’t real life partner love.
Honestly thought Peter should’ve never given Victoria F a rose. Clearly she is conflicted and not ready for a relationship especially with Peter she said it in her actions and words
I honestly look for the best in even controversial people cause they're all human.... but I've never detested a contestant more than Victoria F. Fake anxiety. Plays the victim in every scenario. Consistently manipulative. She cries at anything just to appear "shy" and "nervous", but when around anyone other than Peter is clearly assertive and unafraid to state her opinions and act normally. She get's mad at Peter only to make him feel guilty, then turns around and plays victim again.... as someone who actually has anxiety it's just so fake and attention seeking and it makes me sick.
This is a bad message. So peter just gives a rose when the girl is crying. They are not babies who need baby food. Peter is so slack omg It's like peter doenst know what to say to women
I think with Hannah Ann he gave it to her not because she was crying but because he wanted to see her not try to be perfect and composed. I think he wanted to see some raw emotion on her and when she broke down I guess he did. Just sayin'
Felt like when Peter walked away, Hannah Ann was like crap let’s turn on the waterworks, tell him I’m falling in love with him after knowing him only for weeks and well Peter fell for it.
@@Ava-zo9xi I agree...however, I don't want them to pick anyone else from this season. It's either Kelly for me or they need to pick someone from a past season instead!
Christina Nguyen Dlo seems super random lol but I’d be down! Wasn’t a huge fan of Kirpa myself but I thought Tayshia was fantastic on Paradise and I think she would definitely bring a very refreshing maturity that we haven’t seen in awhile. Plus she’s one of the most beautiful and kind people I’ve ever seen on the show!
Emmabby Reborns yeah don’t worry. There’s like 0% chance of her being Bachelorette. Beside the problematic reports of her sleeping with the husbands of multiple friends she’s done some apparently racially insensitive modeling (the Cosmo cover was even cancelled). I don’t think ABC would look past that.
Emmabby Reborns Agree. I seriously don’t get her attitude unless it’s that she’s starting to get nervous about getting this far because she doesn’t actually like Peter lol
nenamichelle Yes, this. I have been wondering why nobody in any Bachelor recaps is talking about her scandal about sleeping with people’s husbands. The info is out there if you google her. I’m guessing it’s because the bachelor will address it in a future episode. Victoria F just seems like bad news :/
S. was alledged to be a mean girl in high school. She went to high school and was in the same class as Hannah Brown BUT they were not friends ... l wonder if Peter kept her around to put the screws to Hannah B for not picking him .
Peter chooses to spend his time making out with the girls instead of forming actual connections . And the producers just wanna shove the girl drama down our throats
That is why it’s moving fast! Lol - there’s not much to them and so not enough real content, only drama! Can’t wait for the finale, that’s all I care about at this point...
I like Peter but I feel like he’s the worst bachelor ever. He doesn’t really know what he wants and he’s too sweet to see that none of these girls are mature enough for a serious relationship with him. Once they start crying he goes here’s a rose like what🤔? Also why is Natasha and Kelsie still there?
Shama Bloom I don’t think this is all Peter’s fault. It’s the women and the producers. Peter has made some crap choices but he also doesn’t see as much as we do. Nor does he have a great pool from which to choose. My god, they should have just had him choose Hannah B and date her while she did DWTS. 🤣
I swear he’s a momma’s boy. It’s like he’s trying to acquiesce to whatever *little girl* his mommy would approve of. (I think his mom wants the daughter she never had).
Yeah I was so confused, like the reason she cant open up is because they are right for each other . When I first met my husband we just clicked and it was so easy , i just felt like i knew him my whole life. With previous guys i dated it was a lot of work and effort and i wanted it but it just didnt work .... But with my husband it was effortless and i wanted to tell him everything .... Even if it was stupid . I thought it was so dumb that he kept her , she seems unclear.
Like alot of people, he wants what he can't have. She's playing the game and he is falling for it. All I think when I watch her is I know like 20 girls that act just like her the "oh I'm shy and don't have self esteem" but "I can't look you in the eye because I'm used to taking selfies on my phone". Sick.
Wod Girl yes!! I’m glad someone else noticed! She tries to come off as “I don’t need you” or plays the faulty card against Peter to guilt him into trying to make him “come back to her”. With Allayah, Victoria P is “shocked” how peter can’t trust her, then here, how quick she was to escalate peter’s small doubt into “I’m completely leaving” just to manipulate Peter to “come back to her”. Any man would be a fool to try to keep coming back to her and do all the leg work in the relationship with her.
I was thinking that too! She’s a mess. Apparently with the rumors about her she doesn’t know what to do with a man when they aren’t in bed. She needs to go
I’d be okay with having - Madison - Alayah (she had an unfair shot because she was attacked by the girls for really no GOOD reason. In an interview one of the contestants, I think jasmine, said Alayah was super sweet!) - Hannah B Kelley was nice but I just don’t get bachelorette vibes from her. I don’t think she would take it. Or maybe she would idk!! But if it’s anyone else from this season, lord help us
@@EllDuclos Alayah?!? That's a big fat no, she better not be the Bachelorette. Really no one from this season should be it just for age reasons alone, we need to go back to grown bachelors and bachelorettes in their 30s who are actually ready for marriage, not a bunch of 21 year olds who are still in college
Tea Mo I know people will disagree with me but I loved Alayah and hated the way she was treated by the girls. That house was filled with mean girls with petty drama. She didn’t have a fair chance. But I agree, they do need to raise the age a bit.
You know what I wish? That Roses & Rosè was 5 hours long! I watch the bachelor so I can watch and be with it for the Roses & Rosè episode, not the other way around! 🤣 Love you Lauren Zima, you’re the Chilean sun on my gloomy winter days! 😂💕
Peter's gestures and certain things he says for Madison reminds me of Colton and Cassie. if it's not her I'll be shocked.. their 1 minute interactions are the reason we watch this show
Mary-Ashley Busse seems like he makes the effort to seek her out and has special things for her, like the framed photo from their first date and the poem.
We all adore Lauren for bringing so much personality to the show, but also shout out to the editor! They always add so much humor. I love the dramatic music and counter counter and all of the little details.
Peter seeks out women who treat him like they need him and they'd fall to pieces without him rather than women treat him like don't *need* him, but care about him and want him regardless. I think he's a bit insecure
Hannah Anne is obviously too young for marriage in her experience’s- emotionally they are not on the same level. Victoria F is too sassy and selfish - she seems like she wants to hold on for the camera time. Kelsie seems more ready- 🥰 I’m happy she stood to protect Mykenna Madison doesn’t seem like she’s really into Peter yet. Kelly is too opposite of a personality then Peter-
I believe it was Reality Steve who said Natasha got the gig because she’s a Producer - I didn’t count her because I believe they put her in as a filler.
Agree on Hannah Ann, besides she said she wants to continue her modeling career and he being a pilot. They'd never see each other. She is too young. She needs to live her life more. I thought you had to be tall to be a model? Victoria F looks like she is hiding her reputation. She can't bring it up. It may be the sole reason for her hesitation and lashing out at times...it may be tormenting her here that the truth will surface soon. And her antics are not deserving of Peter. If Madison cushioned her Instragram with her own good comments, she may be angling for Bachelorette herself by her good behaviour. I don't see sparks yet. I think he likes her a lot. I keep hearing her father doesn't give Peter his blessing but will this same father ok his daughter as the next Bachelorette knowing she would be kissing many men that eventually leads to a fantasy suite? Kelley seems bored by the whole thing, she has no excitement or enthusiasm, tired, no sparks. She quietly reprimanded him, quietly said she wanted to stay, no tears but so....ok, he hands her a rose. Only one, ever for him is Hannah Brown. They add THIS experience as yet another thing they have in common. Their kids will be the cutest. Forget the rose' ...champagne for everyone! ♥️🍾
I don't think the girls are cattier this season, I think Peter is attracted to dramatic, messy girls. There were probably plenty of nice girls that he sent home early on in favor of the drama queens.
OK I counted the word “like” and here’s the total: the women said “like” 159 times and Peter said “like” 44 times. For a grand total of 203 “like”. I’m never doing it again because I have to watch the whole damn show and usually I fast forward through 60% of it.
Jill Johnson wow. And that’s just what we get to see. Imagine the total amount of “likes” the editing staff had to go through! Also, don’t you wish TV had the speed option like YT? I watch so many videos between 1.5 and 2x to save time. It’s an amazing feature.
nenamichelle - Yes and I’m sure I missed lots of them it was so boring. That and AMAZING and JOURNEY. I wish we could eliminate them from our vocabulary
Hannah Anne and Madison are the same age and no one is bringing up Madison's age...I feel they're keeping Madison under wraps on purpose, she's for sure who he ends up with. Now we just have to figure out the mysterious ending!
I have a theory that the producers are editing in a way that makes majority of the women look terrible bc he actually goes back with Hannah B... 😳 thoughts??
@@kaileim970 Sometimes what people say and what they do is totally different. He likes a mess and chooses it over and over regardless of what he says he wants.
Same! I canNOT handle the drama for the whole episode, but Lauren’s recaps are life-giving!! I do watch the Bachelorette though because when the guys are being dramatic it is just funny lol
This is my first time getting into the Bachelor/Bachelorette Nation and this Rose and Rosé is giving me life!! I absolutely agree with everything Ms. Lauren is saying!!
Gabriella Middleton Welcome! Also check out these channels: 1. Bachelor Fantake: funny, great analysis 2. Whit & Ry: sisters you’d love as neighbors 3. PMO Productions: Daniel Miramontes gives a guy’s perspective-hysterical These three plus Lauren Zima’s Roses & Rosé = excellent viewer experience With as messed up as this season has been, I haven’t watched the actual show since Episode 1- have been waiting for the ridiculous drama to settle, so we can watch romance develop. I’ll start watching the show again next week. Only six women left; now we’re finally getting somewhere! Oh, one other resource: bachelorarchive.com has past seasons, and international seasons as well. (Check out Bachelor Australia! And BIP5 is good, plus Rachel or Jojo’s seasons, or Sean Lowe’s.) Free with registration of an email address. Again, welcome!
Rebekah Watkins same! The drama on the bachelor has been TOO much for me for years!! Bachelorette however, is just enough drama though that it’s still fun 😊 But honestly the best part of it ALL is Roses and Rosé!!!
I feel bad for Peter. He unconsciously or consciously really loves a mess. No wonder he liked hannah B so much. She is the most confused person ever. Mcenna, what the hell is wrong with her where are her parents ? Does she not have friends ? Good lord. Hannah A sounds sooo scripted. And when Peter questioned her she cried so she could get the rose and stay another week. Kelly should just go back to the law firm.Victoria F needs some serious therapy. Natasha is not messy or confused in life enough for peter to chose to be with her. Kelsey needs more self love. I don't remember anyone else 😳
@@aubrielloyd-jones3929 oh yeah Madison. Orrrrrr she probably strategically acts that way so she can remain till the end and then not get engaged to peter so she can become the next bachelorette.
My thoughts on this episode: Tammy was my favorite and now she’s my least favorite. Glad Peter got rid of the toxic drama this episode. I would have named this episode KARMA. Victoria F needs to go next. Natasha is great but her and peter have 0 connection, how did she make it this far? Mykenna will make for a great bachelor in paradise contestant, I’ll miss her facial expressions. I think it’s safe to say we can end the season now and give the final rose to Madison As for bachelorette maybe Hannah B should go for round two because these girls ain’t it. Thank you, next ✨
EllDuclos I agree with most of what you said but I think Kelly would be a good bachelorette or honestly Natasha. I think Madison is def going to win at this point. I’m glad Tammy, Victoria P and Mykenna are gone. Victoria F is hopefully next and I wish Savannah got more time on the show because she seemed like the real deal
Seriously, Fiona i know, he sent all the good ones home! It’s hard because we don’t see much of Natasha to know what she’s really like which is a shame and I think Kelley is awesome but I just couldn’t see her as the bachelorette. I also wouldn’t be opposed to Alayah having a second chance since the girls unfairly attacked her and took that chance away!
Here's the thing... I think that Tammy really got in her own head because she knew that she was behind compared to some of the other women, and especially since Victoria F got a second one-on-one (eye-roll). Tammy let her insecurities control her and started lashing out at some of the more weepy/annoying contestants (MyKenna, Kelsey). This was not cool and she shouldn't have done it. That being said, I believe Tammy when she said that MyKenna's ulterior motives may have affected her behavior too much. Don't get me wrong, I know everyone's on this show for the prestige or the notoriety on some level, but as soon as MyKenna knew she was gone she really exposed herself with her exit speech. I would normally be all for a woman standing up and professing her strength and beauty in the face of opposition, but the way she did it was so cheesy and fake it was hard to watch : I It was like she was thinking, "Well, he dumped me after all. I'm sad, but at least this goodbye makes it more likely to score that Revolve deal..." Oh boy.
Emmabby Reborns well actually it doesn’t finish developing till half way through the third decade of life so shes there, she’s 23, nearly 25. And the frontal lobe doesn’t dictate an individual’s life experiences and maturity. If someone had to grow up fast or was raised a certain way, how far development their frontal lobe is developed based on age doesn’t really mean anything in regard for how ready they are for a life commitment. There are many people who make successful life commitments at her age. It all depends on the individual so it’s just best to wait and actually get to see more of Hannah Ann as well as the other girls. We barely know enough to judge most of them because we’ve mostly just focused on drama.
His frontal lobe is fully developed?? As a psychologist in private practice for many years, his indecisiveness and flaky decisions proves your opinion to not be true. No disrespect, but the frontal lobe is in charge of executive decisions as well as problem solving. Peter appears to be highly co-dependent and tends to be attracted to immature and broken women bc he is highly insecure.
I was 19 and my husband was 25 when we got married. That was 22 years ago now and it worked out well. I think it all depends on individuals and their maturity and specific life goals.
Simbuh 18 & 24. We got married after 6 months of dating. It’s not very strange. For most of human history it would be considered old. Even for recent generations it was more the norm than not. It’s a recent idea that waiting for marriage until older is a good plan. I have both endometriosis and large fibroids. Having children in my early twenties allowed me to take advantage of my fertility while I had it. Many of our grandparents and great grandparents were married young and married their entire lives. I’ve been married for over 20 years which is more than many people my age or even a decade older can say.
I feel you I got married at 17 I’m 22 now we have a house 3 cars and a child I’m a nursing assistant he’s an APP professional we met in high school and didn’t wanna be away from each other he was 18 and I was 17 5 years later we’re still here 🤷🏻♀️ and idk I think our marriage is great I know we have a long way but I hadda such a crappy childhood and so did he so we are each other’s safe place
Lauren - you need to make a compilation of all the times you have sung anything from «A star is born». Cause honestly those moments gives me so much joy! 😍😍😍
I have to say, I came by Roses and Rose by accident and its the best accident ever! I have watched all the Bachelor Peter episodes on here! I'm smitten ! Thank you for this!
I just gotta say I don’t watch the bachelor or bachelorette anymore because that’s too much tv in my work week (when I had a less hectic schedule I did) however I get my fix from watching you and your interviews! Lauren Zima! Love ya girl! Please never stop 💛
Casandra Diaz it’s not her fault and she may not of been in love . I’ve been with guys who i thought I was in love with and it turned out I actually wasn’t . Something about her just struck me as the type who wants to say the” right “ thing that’s all
I still watched this week but definitely considered skipping and just watching Roses and Rose. I'm so over this season but each week I can't wait for more of Lauren. The best part of double Bachelor episodes was double R & R
Zoe Bredeweg Yes! R&R + Bachelor Fantake + Whit & Ry + PMO Productions (Daniel Miramontes) = why put myself through all the needless crying and meanness? I do plan to start up again next week though, now that it’s down to a manageable number.
Lauren you are an outstanding host and interviewer- You literally make my day with Roses and Rose! Keep up the fabulous work! xx hugs from Toronto #moreismore
All these girls are trying to have their Bachelorette quote. Like Hannah Brown’s “I wanna be loved fearlessly” comment. For Hannah B we believed and bought into that but these girls are so surface level it is just cheesy and obvious
*SHAMELESS PLUG* Peter Weber Interview - ua-cam.com/video/l2WUyXZ906E/v-deo.html
Entertainment Tonight this was a great interview! So interesting to hear Peter’s perspective as he watches the season with us.
i like that Lauren actually expresses the thoughts we were all actually thinking in the moment. I like how candid these are! Surprising and nice.
Why do they put women under 30 years old on the Bachelor? As if you're ready for marriage?
@@stephanief.7416 p m.p
I love how Lauren is so calm and collected in her interviews but totally wild on Roses and rosè
Debbie Brown Her voice over interviews are funny .The ones where you can’t see the announcer. She puts on a very serious newscasters voice that isn’t anywhere close to her real voice.Lol I like her anyway.
we stan a versatile queen 🙌🏼
You mean collected but yes!
@@humankaleidoscope4989 thanks lol.. German.. Haha
@@debbiebrown4892 no worries. My first language is Spanish so I totally get it :)
i already have a headache from the women tell all that hasn't even happened yet
Can’t wait! 🤣🤣 it’s going to be a sh*t show
Mary Will Showman ugh they will all be yelling over each other and no one will
Actually hear what they are saying
EllDuclos FOR REAL 😂😂😂
Hahahahaha!!
oh my god i forgot about that holy sh*t
The only thing that’s better than two episodes is MORE LAUREN ZIMA
Agree.😂
Agree 😂
Agree
Absolutely!!!
YES 👏🏻
Hannah Ann is kinda clownish lol. How do you date someone for 3.5 years, not develop feelings of love and expect to get engaged after 6 weeks of dating a guy who is also dating multiple other women, on a television show?
claire phil tea
Because she was young. I can see why she didn’t feel it was love. But she’s still not ready. Bachelor needs to really stop casting people who are just legit not there yet. Age and life experience goes a long way.
Instagram.
My thoughts as well. They all want fame and be on tv.
Or guys, when you are young, you think what you are feeling is love. Likely it is a kind of love. But how she knows it wasn’t real true love that you have for someone you want to spend your life with.
Also if you are gonna bring up the 6 weeks thing why is that a Hannah specific criticism when by your logic it would end up applying to everyone. Because other people have been in long relationships too but realized it wasn’t real life partner love.
Honestly thought Peter should’ve never given Victoria F a rose. Clearly she is conflicted and not ready for a relationship especially with Peter she said it in her actions and words
Made peter look a little bit hypocritical by giving her the rose in my opinion. Definitely a bad move.
I think shes faking it tbh. She acts vulnerable and unsure because she likes having peter comfort her.
And then when she gets the rose, her mood changes. I smell fish 🤭
I think she’s realizing she could go far and just went on the show for fame soo she’s low key freaking out that she’s gonna end up like Jed
Karla Montero OMG! I thought the exact same thing
I honestly look for the best in even controversial people cause they're all human.... but I've never detested a contestant more than Victoria F. Fake anxiety. Plays the victim in every scenario. Consistently manipulative. She cries at anything just to appear "shy" and "nervous", but when around anyone other than Peter is clearly assertive and unafraid to state her opinions and act normally. She get's mad at Peter only to make him feel guilty, then turns around and plays victim again.... as someone who actually has anxiety it's just so fake and attention seeking and it makes me sick.
lizzy ugh me too!!!!!!!!!
Couldn't agree more. Initially I could relate to her but I saw her true face when she was yelling at Alayah. Really shocking behavior
A G more than a vibe, that’s the rumor from her hometown.
Nailed it
True butttt takes one to know one lol
This is a bad message. So peter just gives a rose when the girl is crying. They are not babies who need baby food. Peter is so slack omg
It's like peter doenst know what to say to women
@Slowdayonthe MISSISSIPPI but when he gives them the rose, their mood changes quickly.
I think with Hannah Ann he gave it to her not because she was crying but because he wanted to see her not try to be perfect and composed. I think he wanted to see some raw emotion on her and when she broke down I guess he did. Just sayin'
@@marianav876 idk...its still weird to me.
Yeah he's weird
Felt like when Peter walked away, Hannah Ann was like crap let’s turn on the waterworks, tell him I’m falling in love with him after knowing him only for weeks and well Peter fell for it.
Okay I also loved that Madison and Peter were kissing, they heard the screaming, acknowledged it then proceeded to ignore it.😂
Kelly’s grandma performance got my vote. I could live with a Kelly bachelorette season.
@@Ava-zo9xi I agree...however, I don't want them to pick anyone else from this season. It's either Kelly for me or they need to pick someone from a past season instead!
@@Maranatha4455 completely agree
She is so ugly & aloof...please...she'll never be anything in this series
Too boring
I think she's very young, but her face shows that she's done botox like 1 million times.
They need to pull a bachelorette from an old season lmao
Camryn Spurlin either tayasha or kirpa or Dlo
Christina Nguyen Dlo seems super random lol but I’d be down! Wasn’t a huge fan of Kirpa myself but I thought Tayshia was fantastic on Paradise and I think she would definitely bring a very refreshing maturity that we haven’t seen in awhile. Plus she’s one of the most beautiful and kind people I’ve ever seen on the show!
Couldn't agree more!!@
Or Kelley! She'd be interesting
Shakiba Inside A Screen I think she’d be a great bachelorette but I don’t think they’ll pick her :(
Victoria F is a hot mess when she's with Peter. NOT a good match for him or the show. So a big NO for The Bachelorette.
Emmabby Reborns yeah don’t worry. There’s like 0% chance of her being Bachelorette. Beside the problematic reports of her sleeping with the husbands of multiple friends she’s done some apparently racially insensitive modeling (the Cosmo cover was even cancelled). I don’t think ABC would look past that.
I don’t think she really likes him.
Emmabby Reborns Agree. I seriously don’t get her attitude unless it’s that she’s starting to get nervous about getting this far because she doesn’t actually like Peter lol
nenamichelle Yes, this. I have been wondering why nobody in any Bachelor recaps is talking about her scandal about sleeping with people’s husbands. The info is out there if you google her. I’m guessing it’s because the bachelor will address it in a future episode. Victoria F just seems like bad news :/
cgill914 they will not address it on the show, it would give the show and production and producers a bad name, they’re just going to ignore it lol
Has anyone figured out why Sydney keeps referring to herself in the third person? Like why
Mental?
sammsnow THANK YIIIIEEEWWWWW
YES! i legit was saying the sammmmeee thing, like why
Very conceited
S. was alledged to be a mean girl in high school. She went to high school and was in the same class as Hannah Brown BUT they were not friends ... l wonder if Peter kept her around to put the screws to Hannah B for not picking him .
Mykenna is both the overly attached girlfriend and grumpy cat.. two memes in one chick
Leah L I like her
Blondy i think she went out with some decency for sure! i just felt bad about her breaking down haha
I'll take her as a friend any day over the horrible mean Tammy!🤬😠
@@catrinahartz944 both are exhausting and unstable. Having to baby and comfort a cry baby or fighting with vicious Tammy.. no thanks
@@xxo8888 . Yeah true
This season is moving so damn fast it’s hard to care about anyone on the season because we don’t KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM
Peter chooses to spend his time making out with the girls instead of forming actual connections . And the producers just wanna shove the girl drama down our throats
Omg I know right I still have no idea who anyone is....
Moving along for a reason, it sux
That is why it’s moving fast! Lol - there’s not much to them and so not enough real content, only drama! Can’t wait for the finale, that’s all I care about at this point...
The Hannah Ann version of “Shallow” was hilarious 😂
Allison Schardin dame as the wine fanasco
I like Peter but I feel like he’s the worst bachelor ever. He doesn’t really know what he wants and he’s too sweet to see that none of these girls are mature enough for a serious relationship with him. Once they start crying he goes here’s a rose like what🤔? Also why is Natasha and Kelsie still there?
I feel like they’re not showing his full relationship with Natasha.
Yes but Juan Pablo was actually the worst Bachelor ever, let’s not forget lmao
Very true. I think Madison will win. She met his parents and she’s less drama
I think it’s the girls. I think he goes for Hannah B cuz these girls are the worst.
Shama Bloom I don’t think this is all Peter’s fault. It’s the women and the producers. Peter has made some crap choices but he also doesn’t see as much as we do. Nor does he have a great pool from which to choose. My god, they should have just had him choose Hannah B and date her while she did DWTS. 🤣
Peter’s love language is crying
He's mistaking crying for opening up , it's so stupid .
Spot on...it's because he is highly co-dependent
I swear he’s a momma’s boy. It’s like he’s trying to acquiesce to whatever *little girl* his mommy would approve of. (I think his mom wants the daughter she never had).
I can’t believe he gave Victoria F the rose. She is clearly uncertain of what she wants and she’s a mess. 😑
Yeah I was so confused, like the reason she cant open up is because they are right for each other . When I first met my husband we just clicked and it was so easy , i just felt like i knew him my whole life.
With previous guys i dated it was a lot of work and effort and i wanted it but it just didnt work .... But with my husband it was effortless and i wanted to tell him everything .... Even if it was stupid .
I thought it was so dumb that he kept her , she seems unclear.
When it comes to Victoria F, he thinks with the wrong head.
He just wants her to make it to fantasy suites 🙃
And you can't believe that he gave her a rose? She is a mess
Like alot of people, he wants what he can't have. She's playing the game and he is falling for it. All I think when I watch her is I know like 20 girls that act just like her the "oh I'm shy and don't have self esteem" but "I can't look you in the eye because I'm used to taking selfies on my phone". Sick.
Sydney seems pretty mean judging from her behavior on the show, so I am pretty happy she went home.
Krystle Jade I think Sydney more personality will show on bachelor in paradise.
Are we all gonna by pass how Tammy said,” I’m everything.” Lol!!!!
Right?!? Who says that?????
Mugsy Pryor Narcissists.
Lauren Zima is literally the only reason I started watching the bachelor. She’s so entertaining 😂🌹
Victoria P seems like her personality is a bit shady
Wod Girl yes!! I’m glad someone else noticed! She tries to come off as “I don’t need you” or plays the faulty card against Peter to guilt him into trying to make him “come back to her”. With Allayah, Victoria P is “shocked” how peter can’t trust her, then here, how quick she was to escalate peter’s small doubt into “I’m completely leaving” just to manipulate Peter to “come back to her”. Any man would be a fool to try to keep coming back to her and do all the leg work in the relationship with her.
She’s totally cookie 🤦🏻♀️
I feel like Mykenna and JPJ would be the quirkiest and cutest couple ever.
Christina Morrison now that you said that i could totally see it!
Tayshia from Colton’s season for bachelorette. She deserves it more than any of these other girls
I miss Hannah’s season.... this season sucks.
When Victoria F said this is the most she’s ever tried for someone 😳 oh girl, you’re just sitting there muttering “I don’t know”
I was thinking that too! She’s a mess. Apparently with the rumors about her she doesn’t know what to do with a man when they aren’t in bed. She needs to go
Lol damn, I was like, if this is the most you’ve ever tried, I actually feel bad for you because you aren’t trying at all lmao 😂
I can't with Victoria F freaking out at the slightest inconvenience.
The bachelorette better not be from this season
I’d be okay with having
- Madison
- Alayah (she had an unfair shot because she was attacked by the girls for really no GOOD reason. In an interview one of the contestants, I think jasmine, said Alayah was super sweet!)
- Hannah B
Kelley was nice but I just don’t get bachelorette vibes from her. I don’t think she would take it. Or maybe she would idk!! But if it’s anyone else from this season, lord help us
It will be they don’t care bout what the fans think anymore I mean look who the bachelor before this was .....
@@EllDuclos Alayah?!? That's a big fat no, she better not be the Bachelorette. Really no one from this season should be it just for age reasons alone, we need to go back to grown bachelors and bachelorettes in their 30s who are actually ready for marriage, not a bunch of 21 year olds who are still in college
AmandaB I actually loved Colton being the bachelor and him and Cassie are so cute together. Huge fan of theirs!
Tea Mo I know people will disagree with me but I loved Alayah and hated the way she was treated by the girls. That house was filled with mean girls with petty drama. She didn’t have a fair chance. But I agree, they do need to raise the age a bit.
„Peter likes a mess and Mykenna was a maid and when she was a maid they connected”😂😂 Lauren you’re the best!
You know what I wish? That Roses & Rosè was 5 hours long! I watch the bachelor so I can watch and be with it for the Roses & Rosè episode, not the other way around! 🤣 Love you Lauren Zima, you’re the Chilean sun on my gloomy winter days! 😂💕
Same!!
I haven't even watched this season. I just watch Rose's and Rose'...I don't think I'm missing much...
AMEN! 👏👏👏
Deborah Atkins-Denmark Me too, since Episode 1 this season! I think now that it’s down to six, I’ll start up again though
Peter's gestures and certain things he says for Madison reminds me of Colton and Cassie. if it's not her I'll be shocked.. their 1 minute interactions are the reason we watch this show
Mary-Ashley Busse seems like he makes the effort to seek her out and has special things for her, like the framed photo from their first date and the poem.
Yes but we haven't seen enough of her, so when they are together - even though their interactions are sweet - it's hard to feel invested.
We all adore Lauren for bringing so much personality to the show, but also shout out to the editor! They always add so much humor. I love the dramatic music and counter counter and all of the little details.
EXACTLY! It's alllll about the details!
Hannah Ann Thinks to much about saying the right thing. She seems to be saying what he wants to hear just to stay
Blondy do we know if she’s done pageants? So many of them do I lose track! 🤦♀️ The way she speaks I think she must have done some in the past.
nenamichelle Idk
nenamichelle I think she’s the one who’s a model and friends with Hannah G. So yeah, lots of training/practice there
Peter seeks out women who treat him like they need him and they'd fall to pieces without him rather than women treat him like don't *need* him, but care about him and want him regardless. I think he's a bit insecure
Yesss! Exactly.
Best episode of Roses and Rose ever! Proud of you for making a new drink and loved the song!
I love your channeling McKenna in the mirror reminds me of The Help- 'you is smart, you is kind, you is important!'
Hannah Anne is obviously too young for marriage in her experience’s- emotionally they are not on the same level.
Victoria F is too sassy and selfish - she seems like she wants to hold on for the camera time.
Kelsie seems more ready- 🥰 I’m happy she stood to protect Mykenna
Madison doesn’t seem like she’s really into Peter yet.
Kelly is too opposite of a personality then Peter-
Wod Girl Natasha?
I believe it was Reality Steve who said Natasha got the gig because she’s a Producer - I didn’t count her because I believe they put her in as a filler.
Wod Girl Madison and Peter don’t seem to have a deep connection. Their relationship seems like high school sweethearts; honeymoon love.
Agree on Hannah Ann, besides she said she wants to continue her modeling career and he being a pilot. They'd never see each other. She is too young. She needs to live her life more. I thought you had to be tall to be a model?
Victoria F looks like she is hiding her reputation. She can't bring it up. It may be the sole reason for her hesitation and lashing out at times...it may be tormenting her here that the truth will surface soon. And her antics are not deserving of Peter.
If Madison cushioned her Instragram with her own good comments, she may be angling for Bachelorette herself by her good behaviour. I don't see sparks yet. I think he likes her a lot. I keep hearing her father doesn't give Peter his blessing but will this same father ok his daughter as the next Bachelorette knowing she would be kissing many men that eventually leads to a fantasy suite?
Kelley seems bored by the whole thing, she has no excitement or enthusiasm, tired, no sparks. She quietly reprimanded him, quietly said she wanted to stay, no tears but so....ok, he hands her a rose.
Only one, ever for him is Hannah Brown. They add THIS experience as yet another thing they have in common. Their kids will be the cutest. Forget the rose' ...champagne for everyone! ♥️🍾
The only thing I’ll miss when this season is over is Lauren Zima saying “You bring her home!”
Someone get Lauren Zima a recording contract already!
Peter went from doing nothing on Monday night to doing EVERYTHING two days later.
I don't think the girls are cattier this season, I think Peter is attracted to dramatic, messy girls. There were probably plenty of nice girls that he sent home early on in favor of the drama queens.
OK I counted the word “like” and here’s the total: the women said “like” 159 times and Peter said “like” 44 times. For a grand total of 203 “like”. I’m never doing it again because I have to watch the whole damn show and usually I fast forward through 60% of it.
Jill Johnson wow. And that’s just what we get to see. Imagine the total amount of “likes” the editing staff had to go through!
Also, don’t you wish TV had the speed option like YT? I watch so many videos between 1.5 and 2x to save time. It’s an amazing feature.
nenamichelle - Yes and I’m sure I missed lots of them it was so boring. That and AMAZING and JOURNEY. I wish we could eliminate them from our vocabulary
Omg it drives me nuts!
Oh yes and the word real.
Thank you for your dedication. 👏🏼
Lauren you’re such a gem. You’re so hilarious, I enjoy your recaps more than the show.
Wake up Peter. Victoria F is not ready for a relationship. Let her go.
Lauren Zima: I love your show!
Hannah Anne and Madison are the same age and no one is bringing up Madison's age...I feel they're keeping Madison under wraps on purpose, she's for sure who he ends up with. Now we just have to figure out the mysterious ending!
What I've noticed since all this started and even interviews after, Peter looks so tired and worn out!! He seemed happier before he went on the show!
I have a theory that the producers are editing in a way that makes majority of the women look terrible bc he actually goes back with Hannah B... 😳 thoughts??
No
Interesting....
I wish, but he has said several times he wants a woman who chooses him passionately. Hannah B chose 2 others first...
@@kaileim970 Sometimes what people say and what they do is totally different. He likes a mess and chooses it over and over regardless of what he says he wants.
I laughed so hard at "Why do I feel like I am expiring, was there poison in the Pisco sour" That was perfect! 😂
Yes there was. Uncooked egg
I don’t even watch The Bachelor but I watch these recaps all the time
Maximilian Sanderson me too. Love Lauren.
Same! I canNOT handle the drama for the whole episode, but Lauren’s recaps are life-giving!! I do watch the Bachelorette though because when the guys are being dramatic it is just funny lol
@@courtneywoodburn7487 totally agree
This is my first time getting into the Bachelor/Bachelorette Nation and this Rose and Rosé is giving me life!! I absolutely agree with everything Ms. Lauren is saying!!
Welcome to the fold, sister!! (Lauren Zima is THE BEST!!!)
Gabriella Middleton Welcome! Also check out these channels:
1. Bachelor Fantake: funny, great analysis
2. Whit & Ry: sisters you’d love as neighbors
3. PMO Productions: Daniel Miramontes gives a guy’s perspective-hysterical
These three plus Lauren Zima’s Roses & Rosé = excellent viewer experience
With as messed up as this season has been, I haven’t watched the actual show since Episode 1- have been waiting for the ridiculous drama to settle, so we can watch romance develop. I’ll start watching the show again next week. Only six women left; now we’re finally getting somewhere!
Oh, one other resource: bachelorarchive.com has past seasons, and international seasons as well. (Check out Bachelor Australia! And BIP5 is good, plus Rachel or Jojo’s seasons, or Sean Lowe’s.) Free with registration of an email address.
Again, welcome!
Goosebump 801 omg yes!!! I love Bachelor Fantake 😭😭😭🤚🏼🤚🏼
Goosebump 801 Thank you for the links!!! Definitely will check them out!!
I literally don’t even watch the show anymore. I just watch Lauren. 😂
Rebekah Watkins same! The drama on the bachelor has been TOO much for me for years!! Bachelorette however, is just enough drama though that it’s still fun 😊 But honestly the best part of it ALL is Roses and Rosé!!!
I feel bad for Peter. He unconsciously or consciously really loves a mess. No wonder he liked hannah B so much. She is the most confused person ever.
Mcenna, what the hell is wrong with her where are her parents ? Does she not have friends ? Good lord.
Hannah A sounds sooo scripted. And when Peter questioned her she cried so she could get the rose and stay another week.
Kelly should just go back to the law firm.Victoria F needs some serious therapy. Natasha is not messy or confused in life enough for peter to chose to be with her. Kelsey needs more self love. I don't remember anyone else 😳
you forgot madison! who is normal and doesn't cause any drama
@@aubrielloyd-jones3929 oh yeah Madison. Orrrrrr she probably strategically acts that way so she can remain till the end and then not get engaged to peter so she can become the next bachelorette.
Damn so true! You’re right about all of these girls lol
ROCK YOUR NATURAL
Tell us how you really feel...
My thoughts on this episode:
Tammy was my favorite and now she’s my least favorite. Glad Peter got rid of the toxic drama this episode.
I would have named this episode KARMA.
Victoria F needs to go next.
Natasha is great but her and peter have 0 connection, how did she make it this far?
Mykenna will make for a great bachelor in paradise contestant, I’ll miss her facial expressions.
I think it’s safe to say we can end the season now and give the final rose to Madison
As for bachelorette maybe Hannah B should go for round two because these girls ain’t it.
Thank you, next ✨
Hannah B has the WORST sense when it comes to choosing the right man. Even if the right man fell into her lap she still wouldn't know it..
eskimokiss I just love Hannah B though 🤣
EllDuclos I agree with most of what you said but I think Kelly would be a good bachelorette or honestly Natasha. I think Madison is def going to win at this point. I’m glad Tammy, Victoria P and Mykenna are gone. Victoria F is hopefully next and I wish Savannah got more time on the show because she seemed like the real deal
Seriously, Fiona i know, he sent all the good ones home! It’s hard because we don’t see much of Natasha to know what she’s really like which is a shame and I think Kelley is awesome but I just couldn’t see her as the bachelorette. I also wouldn’t be opposed to Alayah having a second chance since the girls unfairly attacked her and took that chance away!
I agree with everything except the hannah b being the bachelorette again
Here's the thing... I think that Tammy really got in her own head because she knew that she was behind compared to some of the other women, and especially since Victoria F got a second one-on-one (eye-roll). Tammy let her insecurities control her and started lashing out at some of the more weepy/annoying contestants (MyKenna, Kelsey). This was not cool and she shouldn't have done it.
That being said, I believe Tammy when she said that MyKenna's ulterior motives may have affected her behavior too much. Don't get me wrong, I know everyone's on this show for the prestige or the notoriety on some level, but as soon as MyKenna knew she was gone she really exposed herself with her exit speech. I would normally be all for a woman standing up and professing her strength and beauty in the face of opposition, but the way she did it was so cheesy and fake it was hard to watch : I
It was like she was thinking, "Well, he dumped me after all. I'm sad, but at least this goodbye makes it more likely to score that Revolve deal..." Oh boy.
Peter's frontal lobe is fully developed. Hannah Ann's, not so much..
Emmabby Reborns well actually it doesn’t finish developing till half way through the third decade of life so shes there, she’s 23, nearly 25. And the frontal lobe doesn’t dictate an individual’s life experiences and maturity. If someone had to grow up fast or was raised a certain way, how far development their frontal lobe is developed based on age doesn’t really mean anything in regard for how ready they are for a life commitment. There are many people who make successful life commitments at her age. It all depends on the individual so it’s just best to wait and actually get to see more of Hannah Ann as well as the other girls. We barely know enough to judge most of them because we’ve mostly just focused on drama.
Phantom Theorist halfway through the third decade of life is 25. 1-10 is 1, 10-20 is 2, and 20-30 is 3.
That is not true ...hahaha your brain developes fully by age 2
brianna smith yeah I know. I miss typed. I meant to say she there too. After all she’s 23 that’s only a couple years to 25.
His frontal lobe is fully developed?? As a psychologist in private practice for many years, his indecisiveness and flaky decisions proves your opinion to not be true. No disrespect, but the frontal lobe is in charge of executive decisions as well as problem solving. Peter appears to be highly co-dependent and tends to be attracted to immature and broken women bc he is highly insecure.
KELLY OR NATASHA FOR BACHELORETTE!! That’s all I gotta say...😤
THATS WHAT IM SAYING. they’re the only 2 options
YES
Seriously, Fiona just bring Hannah back
I hope neither and no one from this season until they can grow up a little. Kelley is too passive.
Them or Taiyshia
The egg white was supposed to be frothed and placed on top of the drink lmao 🤣 this is a very popular drink in Peru, my fiancé’s family is Peruvian.
Can we pleeeease have a more mature bachelorette season moving forward lol this season is killing my buzz
LAUREN ZIMA is criminally underrated
I was 19 and my husband was 25 when we got married. That was 22 years ago now and it worked out well. I think it all depends on individuals and their maturity and specific life goals.
Yikes
Simbuh ???
@@jenniferford2067 19 and 25! How old were you when y'all started dating? 16?🤮😱 Not trying to be mean but that don't sound right
Simbuh 18 & 24. We got married after 6 months of dating. It’s not very strange. For most of human history it would be considered old. Even for recent generations it was more the norm than not. It’s a recent idea that waiting for marriage until older is a good plan.
I have both endometriosis and large fibroids. Having children in my early twenties allowed me to take advantage of my fertility while I had it.
Many of our grandparents and great grandparents were married young and married their entire lives. I’ve been married for over 20 years which is more than many people my age or even a decade older can say.
I feel you I got married at 17 I’m 22 now we have a house 3 cars and a child I’m a nursing assistant he’s an APP professional we met in high school and didn’t wanna be away from each other he was 18 and I was 17 5 years later we’re still here 🤷🏻♀️ and idk I think our marriage is great I know we have a long way but I hadda such a crappy childhood and so did he so we are each other’s safe place
Lauren - you need to make a compilation of all the times you have sung anything from «A star is born». Cause honestly those moments gives me so much joy! 😍😍😍
Right?!?! As soon as I heard Hannah Ann's use of shallow, internally I was like, YESSSS!!! Because I knew what was coming from Lauren 😁
Tammy is the queen of gas-lighting. An I'm offended by her Canadian comment.
C Wy 😂🤣😂
Ik! I heard that and was like oh u biiiitch
What was it again? I remember it taking me aback but now I can’t remember.
I’m still hoping he ends up with Hannah B. I don’t like any of these girls and I don’t like any of them as bachelorette either 🥴
Your singing is beautiful!!! Yes
You know this season is bad when you start looking at the objects behind the people looking for something interesting
Does anyone else not watch the bachelor but watches the recaps ? Bc it’s sooooo much of a timesaver , Lauren Zima doing the Lords work 👏🏼👏🏼
Victoria P, Sydney, Lexi(Red head), Victoria F, and Tami are just the worst I have ever seen..McKenna was just too much
Sarah Fatimah agree with everything you said
These girls a friggin’ crazy! Can’t wait for Victoria F to go.
i agree with most of these but what’s wrong with Lexi? i liked her and she didn’t seem to engage much in drama
Agree for the most part… but Lexi was literally one of the most unproblematic and normal ones.
Elana K were we watching the same season?? Lexi was involved in every single bit of drama always having something to say about it
I have to say, I came by Roses and Rose by accident and its the best accident ever! I have watched all the Bachelor Peter episodes on here! I'm smitten ! Thank you for this!
Peter comes across as a real sweet guy. On the other hand, doubt I would want him to be flying the plane that needs to land on the Hudson. 😲
Lauren, this might have been your funniest. The Deep End song was CLASSIC, and then your pep talk in the bathroom mirror--no words!!
Peter loves crying women cause his mom does the same thing.
Cut to "DON'T LET HER GO!!!! BRING HER HOME!!!" clip 😭🤣
Lauren's reactions are literally ME during the whoooole 4 hours this week. Love you girl! you are whats keeping me interested this season
Lauren killlsss me 😩😩😩 when she broke out into the shallow waters/minnows song
I just gotta say I don’t watch the bachelor or bachelorette anymore because that’s too much tv in my work week (when I had a less hectic schedule I did) however I get my fix from watching you and your interviews! Lauren Zima! Love ya girl! Please never stop 💛
Hannah Ann probably just said what she thought peter would wanna hear . If she was with someone for 3 years , chances are , there was love involved
Not necessarily true lol I was in a 3 year relationship where I cared for the guy but deep down knew I wasn't "in love"
I think hannah ann just hasn't came across that but that isn't her fault.
Casandra Diaz it’s not her fault and she may not of been in love . I’ve been with guys who i thought I was in love with and it turned out I actually wasn’t . Something about her just struck me as the type who wants to say the” right “ thing that’s all
@@jenn6294i totally agree with that part lol
agree'
Lauren Zima YOU are the gift that keeps on giving 🎁 💝 🥂 🍾 💕
I feel like Pete already knows he wants Madison in the end and he's just delaying the inevitable for the show.
I’ve never watched this channel and for some reason this lady is cracking me tf up 😂
Anyone else just watch Roses and Rosé and not the actual show😂
YES YES YES lol lol I stopped watching the bachelor this season ,but love roses and rose!
I still watched this week but definitely considered skipping and just watching Roses and Rose. I'm so over this season but each week I can't wait for more of Lauren. The best part of double Bachelor episodes was double R & R
Zoe Bredeweg Yes! R&R + Bachelor Fantake + Whit & Ry + PMO Productions (Daniel Miramontes) = why put myself through all the needless crying and meanness?
I do plan to start up again next week though, now that it’s down to a manageable number.
I haven't watched the actual show in seasons, but I always watch Roses and Rose!
NEXT BACHELORETTE OPTIONS:
-Kendall
-Tayshia
-Katie
-Tia
-A fresh, older, mature person not from the franchise
Lesia Mahlay I’d love Kendall as Bachelorette!!
Taysia!
Tayshia PLEASE ❤️
Tia! Not Tayshia, not a fan.
I would be fine with tia or Kendall as bachelorette not a fan of tayshia and I don’t know why I’m not remembering who Katie is?
Lauren, did you hear Peter call Kelsey, CHELSEA when he said “will you accept this Rose?” I died!! 😂
"Horse limbo"....OMG...LOL!!! Lauren you are sooo hilarious! Thank you for always giving me a good laugh! You're so entertaining!
This was the best episode yet, I could not stop laughing the entire time. Lauren you are a gem, and hit everything spot on lol
Lauren you are an outstanding host and interviewer- You literally make my day with Roses and Rose! Keep up the fabulous work! xx hugs from Toronto #moreismore
You look amazing Lauren. This outfit is everything on you
I look forward to these reviews more than I look forward to the episodes at this point.
Peter's mom is a cryer so he thinks it's normal. Saw that when he was on Hannah's season.
I appreciate the extra creativity this episode but they are always entertaining!
LMAO!! I love your version of "Shallow" ! thank you, thank you!
Your episodes are the best part of this season😂 so ready for this season to be overrr. Bring on the next season of the bachelorette! 💕
Yes! I really liked Kelley's personality this episode, she is hilarious! "Incest is best in this case" had me laughing out loud.
It’s been way too long since our last A Star is Born moment. Thank you Lauren 💕
I knew that Lauren was gonna sing Shallow as soon as Hannah said that
😂😂😂
Funniest and most on-point analysis yet! LOVE IT
Dammit. Now I want a Pisco sour.
You never fail to make me laugh, Lauren! YOU ARE AWESOME!
All these girls are trying to have their Bachelorette quote. Like Hannah Brown’s “I wanna be loved fearlessly” comment. For Hannah B we believed and bought into that but these girls are so surface level it is just cheesy and obvious
You are the best, I enjoy your recap more than the show. Keep up the great job!
Ready for BIP. I'm so bored with this season. The only thing I look forward to is Roses and Rose