Things That Have Bothered Me as a Swiftie
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Let's talk about the recent Grammy’s and things that have been bugging me as a long-time Swiftie. Please don't hate me, because I still am one, just one that is nostalgic for the more humble times of folklore-evermore.
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I saw this TikTok about how Taylor Swift markets her girlhood. We feel like we are afraid to criticize because subconsciously we feel like we are critiquing a child. It’s been said that people don’t mature past the age they got famous at, and I think that is true for Taylor. I find it hard to believe there are people in her personal circle bringing up critiques like this. When it’s coming from the internet, she probably brushes it off. Celebrities are doing far less personal development than most people. I’m not saying that being a celebrity isn’t hard, but there is a lot of privilege that comes with stardom. And it inhibits growth simply because they aren’t dealing with regular stress and interpersonal conflicts.
I’d recommend watching her Netflix documentary
Oh myyy… I’m so happy I’m not the only one having such weird feelings about Tay recently 🙈 fully agreeing with you 😢
Me too!!! I was having a feeling, and felt a bad Swiftie. I’m glad I’m not alone lol. ❤
I really respect you honesty about this
6 years. Of course she writes an ALBUM about HER FEELINGS.
THIS. I love love love Taylor but I also feel bothered. Another point: the amount of money we fans pay for the endless things she is releasing. Merch, the multiple vinyl colors, the exclusive albums with one extra song, paying $19.89 to RENT the eras tour movie. It could have even been $13 to rent and that would have been better! Or it could have gone straight to streaming because we already paid to watch it in theaters! It just feels excessive and I know she has a say in these things.
She's a businesswoman and a clear capitalist, which you can absolutely disagree with. However, everyone is responsible for how they spend their money. I chose to go see it in theatres because I couldn't get tickets to the actual show. However, I wasn't going to pay to rent it when I knew that it would eventually be available for streaming because everything is eventually on streaming. 🤷♀
I agree! Similar to what Kalyn was saying, I had been having an uncomfortable feeling for a little bit but was super stocked to go see the Eras Tour in the movies. When I saw how much it cost to rent, there was a bit of disappointment that I wouldn't be able to watch it again. When I opened Instagram to see that it will be available to watch over and over now BUT you have to have Disney+, that's when I started to add up how many times people were paying for the same content. It's just frustrating feeling like you're being drip-fed the same content for someone's financial gain.
@@theoriginal4ever7 ahh the “everyone is an individual” argument. This is how well intentioned people are coerced into accepting and facilitating the exploitative business practices of capitalism. This argument is divisive and isolating. It bothers me as a lower middle class Swift fan that there are so many cost barriers for her poorer fans. I don’t want anyone to have to choose between Taylor Swift and their tight budget for whatever reasons.
It’s cool to give a care at the communal level what people can and cannot afford.
If Taylor stops selling stuff someone else will come in and take that money from consumers. Until we as a culture changes our behaviours in regards to spending and consuming nothing will change. Where there is an opportunity to take advantage there will ALWAYS be those who will take it.
Yes!!! That BOTHERED ME! $20!!! TO RENT!!! Then....I hears it's going to Disney and if you have that it would be free?? Right??? I hope. Anyways I was mad about that. I did not expect a 3 hour show...but I guess it was worth it. I still wish one of these days the show tickets themselves would lower down..a LOT of us can't afford it!
At first I was like "yeah I kinda agree " but then ehh... so many ppl are throwing criticism and dissecting every move she makes.. I can't even imagine what that pressure feels like..she's been in the business for so long and has been seen as someone always dancing and getting everyone involved, being supportive of other artists and so on...and then one time, maybe in the moment, she doesn't thank someone or is extra goofy and it's like "read the room" .. I honestly wouldn't be able to read the room and watch every camera and acknowledge every single person every second if I were in her shoes.. nobody is perfect but it's so strange how a lot of her "fans" quickly turn on her just bc she did few things that were "out of the norm" when they don't even know her. I'm not even a swiftie but it's kinda annoying seeing some many ppl contribute to the criticism.. it's almost become popular to be disappointed in her recent actions.. strange..
Exactly! That's what I was thinking lol. I completely agree
thank you for saying this!
completely agree!!
Making a whole video on it too is crazy.
Yeah I don’t understand either..
i agree with almost everything you said but just wanted to clarify 20:52 Taylor did acknowledge Lana, she literally said that lana is an inspiration for many many artists and thanked her etc
PS love you and can’t wait for your TTPD reaction ❤️
Also Lana was involved in Midnights as a guest vocalist and writer. To not bring her up would have been a little weird with her sitting right there
I also saw someone say that if she would have left Lana alone at the table people would have probably judged her for that as well since she brought Jack and Lana was also on the album. She literally can’t win.
I enjoy some of Taylor's music but wouldn't consider myself a Swiftie. But it's just wild to me how easily people flip on someone, it's the same formula over and over again. When someone is too high up and loved, people get sick of it and turn and start hating. "Die the hero, or live long enough to be the villain". She is overexposed like last time and here we go again. I don't think having some criticisms is wrong but I can't imagine every single thing I do being nitpicked. Guess what, if everyone was looking at you or anyone's life under a magnifying glass, people who see a lot of your flaws as well.
As a 34 year old swiftie I also feel in a Swift Funk 🙌🏼 ugh…I’ve been feeling the same way!!! I don’t know how to feel about the new album.
➡️I love Taylor, but after the cash grab on all the different albums, Grammys, Matt Healy, etc. I’m just a little let down.
I agree! Im not a swiftie like that but i enjoy the music but Taylor as a person, i dont like too much from eveything that you said too but again im not surprised.
I understand where you’re coming from, but in regard to her relationship I think we cannot truly judge what comes out of it because we never fully know what went on in their relationship. As someone who was also in a long term relationship, where I loved the person and planned my life with them, to come out and start to realize it wasn’t what I thought it was or what it seemed was a lot. I would block out my loved ones when they point things out because of the love I had for them. It’s now after the relationship has been done for a while and I’m doing the self work is that I’m realizing that it’s not what it what it seemed on the outside. I finally realized what the other person had put me through .
Yes I agree! We have no idea about any of this and we I am not sure we can judge how someone handles a breakup when we have no idea. I am not supporting anyone just because, but I am just saying we have a lot of opinions about stuff we know very little about.
After being a long time Swiftie, and a mega fan of yours, thank you for this. I feel like I’ve been so influenced by the endless and overarching love for her on Instagram but I really needed this video to bring me back down to earth. It’s an incredibly grounded perspective and I so appreciate it ❤️ yes we love her and the art she produces but when someone does have that kind of influence and power it needs to be checked. And the difference between her now and her in the Miss Americana documentary that wanted to use her voice to do better in the world is noticeable. Sending you so much love and thank you for this 💜
Its okay to criticize people for if there is valid criticism for their actions. We shouldn’t feel guilty about (validly) criticizing public figures/celebrities.
The fact that TS’s own fans feel so guilty or are questioning themselves for the most minor criticisms is concerning. That’s not a criticism of the fans themselves, but more the stan-culture we’ve let firm around, and the celebrities who actively play into and encourage that power dynamic.
LOVED this and your last video/coffee talk regarding TS. You hit the nail on the head as to how I've been feeling about her lately too. New fans definitely react differently than old fans.
Since Joe's group chat was called "The Tortured Man Club" and her new album having the title "The Tortured Poets Department" I do think it's going to be a breakup album about him. It was her longest relationship... But, I do hope I'm wrong. Folklore/Evermore are my favourite albums of her. I kind of still hope TTPD is that same vibe ✨
29:30 she doesn’t even need to make product. There are tons of small artists making amazing art about her and all she needs to do is give them licensing rights and put that stuff on her website and she could make a huge difference in the lives of many artists.
Me going 'yup' through this entire video. I never considered the "not-dealing-with-the-breakup-well" theory as a contributing factor in Taylor's actions though, and I think there's absolutely something to that. I also think she 'locked herself away' for six years, was villified by the world after the Kim K stuff, and probably genuinely thought she was over (especially after confessing her fears that she'd be over as she got older). It makes me wonder whether it's possible to 'come back' in such a big way after thinking that you were over, and NOT be just a little bit smug about it. Can anyone get THAT huge and not become arrogant, odd, self-involved, etc. or some combination of these things? I hope we're all wrong about this, and, like you, Kalyn, I am open to being wrong about Taylor, but the vibes and energy lately have not been great, and I am really bummed about it. Super interesting video, though. (Also, justice for LDR. She's the GOAT, Grammy or not.)
I feel like a lot of the opinions and views on Taylor right now are heavily influenced by social media. I am on Swift tok, and I see a lot of things speculating the things that happened with Joe when we truly will not know what happened. I feel like award shows, especially since the Kanye incident, I feel like she has felt like she has something to prove at them. I liked that she did it with her 13th Grammy specifically, and I like that when she did it she kept the announcement relatively short to keep things rolling. I consider myself a major Swiftie. I just feel like a lot of views on her, especially with the increased popularity, has shifted a lot of perspective on Taylor.
I wish more people would have the discernment and honest reflections you have here without being hated on! Fantastic video, also your voice is very relaxing. Lots of love ❤
One correction on something you said. Yes, I agree Lana was uncomfortable but Taylor actually did acknowledge and use her speech to shout out Lana as one of the most talented female artists.
She does take inspiration from her. I think Taylor’s intention was to give LDR the credit the music industry refuses to give her.
She didn't have to bring her on stage tho. Talk about utter humiliation. 🤦♀️ imagine loosing and still being on stage all pathetic. This is recorded and will forever be online. Ya I don't think she took it as a compliment. 🙄
1. People in controlling or abusive relationships don't always realise that's what it is until they're out of it. I'm not saying it was necessarily that bad, but severe rose tinted glasses until they split and she really looked at it is plausible. 2. I'm reasonably sure, as someone on the spectrum myself, that Taylor is neurodivergent. I'm in my forties and aware of the fact my processes and reactions aren't always the norm, but back in my twenties and thirties before I knew...well, lets just say that it's possible to be incredibly smart or talented in your specific area of interest but be completely clueless in others - and also to not realise that is the case at the time.
I’m curious to know when this was recorded? Did you listen to her speech at Melbourne night 1? Piano song?? She wrote about the disintegration of her relationship. She NEEDED to make this more than any other album she has ever written before. She was in a relationship that was not good. Clearly. Let her be herself. She’s always used music to get her through heartbreak. She was not well over the course of 2020-2022.
I don't think I agree with you at all except the part about the jet emissions. I think the environmental part may have influenced your judgment about the rest too?
After watching this, I went back to see the Grammys clips again and yes she seems to forget to acknowledge Celine Dion but she DOES actually talk about Lana being an inspiration?? And she spends quite a bit talking about how Lana has influenced women in the music industry. Imagine she had not taken Lana with her and what if then Lana would have felt or seemed even more left out?
Do we ever stop to consider that a person like Taylor is probably already doing her LEVEL BEST to make sure everyone feels included and not threatened by her powerful presence... while still finding a way for herself to continue shining?
And the rest she spends profusely thanking her producer Jack Antanoff because imagine how important that was?! And then she says that for her winning an award is like finishing a song = showing how she is still humble about the art.
Then, for the other award, she specifically mentions the fans as she always has in the past and how they're the real reason she won, etc. And while her announcing the album at the event may seem like it was in bad taste now, it was exactly these kind of random surprises Taylor was orchestrating for the past three years or so that had you and many other fans obsessing over her...
So my question is, how perfect do we really expect celebrities to be? How much more could one person be doing and handling at one point? And is it that when they really reach the peak of their success that we decide ok now it's too much? Now you can stop being successful...?
I think it’s interesting especially from a psychology standpoint i’ve learned through my education that when someone pats you on the head, it is a symbol of superiority that may not always be the case and sometimes maybe it’s just playful, but nonetheless it is something to think about
If anyone actually listened to rep or love there is such toxic undertones. You have to read between the lines. This is something I’ve thought even when they were together
Hi! First I want to say that how you’re feeling is valid and you’re allowed to feel how you feel. But I feel like there are important elements missing here. I don’t necessarily love Taylor announcing her album at the Grammys either, but I also didn’t feel like it took too much away from other artists. So much is happening at the Grammys that yes, it was talked about, but people were also talking about so many other things as well. But also, since you focused so much on her behavior for the Grammys, I think it’s important to note that Taylor is the ONLY artists who stood up for every performance and every person who won an award. She’s always done that and THAT is the Taylor I love. People said they loved that she was going around to every table and saying hello. From what I’ve seen, people only ever talk about how gracious and kind she is. Secondly, I understand the frustration with Taylor’s jet usage. I studied environmental science so I care about the environment. But I think people are forgetting that it is literally not safe for Taylor to travel commercially. Can you imagine Taylor walking through LAX? Sitting on a plane for hours and expecting that no one is going to come up to her? She can’t do that. And people assume she is the only one on her plane. Her friends and family use it as well as her team. Probably her band/crew while touring as well. I’ve also heard that a lot of the things saying she does “20 minute flights” and stuff aren’t true. It’s just when a plane moves from the landing strip to the hangar and things like that, which all planes do. On top of that, jet usage is a SMALL percentage of fossil fuels being burned compared to large corporations that continue to pollute the earth. Taylor also paid DOUBLE the amount of the carbon offsets for her travel. She donates a ton of money. I don’t think other billionaires are doing this. Is there room for her to improve? Absolutely. But I just think Taylor gets critiqued more than anyone and a lot of people don’t see the nuance (you did mention some, though). Anyway, I hope this didn’t come off as rude or anything because that wasn’t my intention. Love you, Kalyn.
couldn’t agree more!
100% agree!! thanks for saying this!!
I've never considered myself a Swiftie - although I am a fan of Taylor and her music. But I got the ick from Taylor at the Grammys and I haven't felt quite right about her since. Her album announcement was very self-serving. And her suddenly very public relationship seems a bit performative. As a woman, I was proud of her for being Time's Person of the Year. But, at the end of the day, she's just another celebrity.
I agree and im not a swiftie but i enjoy the music
I think the whole awards show just reflected how human Taylor is. She makes mistakes, she’s not always prepared. People put her on a pedestal and hold her to a higher standard than she or any human can live up to. I love her but I agree it’s hard to watch some of the recent clips/news of her. I don’t think she or her team were prepared for the amount of fame she’s receiving and they don’t know how to handle it. Also as a swiftie it’s hard to say that I don’t stand behind her 100%. I love her. I love her music. But she’s making mistakes. But she’s also human.
It didn't bother me personally that Taylor announced her album at the Grammy's. She said since it was her 13th win she wanted to do it, but if she hadn't won it would've been at the Tokyo show. I feel like the reason the Taylor/Lana music might start to sound similar is because they both work with Jack Antonoff. I definitely agree that merch isn't impressive. I feel like the jet use is tricky since it wouldn't make sense for her to fly commercial. The thing about the Lana and the Grammy's is that I heard she didn't know she had to submit her music to be considered.
THANKS KALYN. I thought I was the only one feeling this way 😭 i miss SO MUCH folklore/evermore era. As you said, everything was much more simple and humble. Those were 2 of my favourite albums ever. So sad it didn't last long and now she looks completely like a different person (for worse for me)...🥺
Finally someone that respectfully addresses my concerns. I also felt off about her at the grammys and couldn't quite grasp why. I appreciate your kind honesty as a fellow swiftie 💗
Thank you for being brave enough to share this, it’s validating to hear a fellow long term Swiftie feeling similarly. I got a lot of hate on TikTok for posting my own criticisms. You are right, a lot of people forget about the nuance of supporting someone. Taylor is not above constructive criticism- no one is!!
Honestly, calling her an "idol" is the real problem. She's a person with all the flaws that come with that. She's not here to be your example or to be emulated. She's an artist who makes/writes music, and that's it. Also, you don't have to explain her to others, you don't owe her or anyone else that. I have had a very different experience with her during this "eras era" than you. I'm happy to see her so happy and how much joy she brings to so many people. That being said, I agree with you on many points, but I think it is worth pointing out where you may be overlooking things that add some needed context.
1. She was with Joe for six years, and it's expected that the woman who emerges on the other side of that relationship is not entirely the same as the one who entered it. Such a relationship changes you. He made her happy for a long time, and she seemed to enjoy her quieter life with him for a while. However, I don't think this was her natural preference, but a product of what was happening when she met him and her wanting to go "into hiding" at the time. If you remember her interviews from earlier in her career (especially the Red era), she was pretty explicit about wanting to find someone who would accept her fame and be as normal as possible despite it. She did not want to feel like a criminal trying to hide a relationship from the public eye. Thus, it is understandable that some strain would start emerging after COVID forced them into even more isolation than before and she wanted to come back out of hiding in the aftermath. Based on her lyrics, it's clear that their relationship was very healing for her in some ways. However, it's also pretty obvious she put him on a pedestal and tended to blame herself when things got rocky. Emerging from such a pivotal relationship involves many big emotions, so I don't think the new album will be a diss of him, but about her working through her own feelings about it, as she does in all her music. For instance, she recently performed You're Losing Me, and before doing so, she spoke about how she never needed songwriting more than she did while writing TTPD because of how much she was going through at the time (probably referring to their breakup).
2. Taylor Swift may have felt off at the Grammys (I won't speculate why), but she genuinely acknowledged Lana and thanked her directly in her acceptance speech. Maybe you missed it, but it's definitely there. Also, after her first win of the night, she announced her new album for her fans rather than for the people in the room. This may have been tactless, but we often overlook how awkward and quirky Taylor is. She's often had these social faux pas before, too. (I have a few neurodivergent friends who all read her as neurodivergent too.) As for Celine, I also think it was unintentional due to her being pretty overwhelmed. Based on her immediate facial expression, I don't think she ever expected to win that final award.
3. The issue with her jets has been blown out of proportion. While she has been criticized for her jet use, she did not even crack the top 50 jet users or polluters in 2023, and she was actually on tour all of 2023. (The original study that brought attention to her jet use also had many errors contributing to inflated numbers for her and others, which were corrected in the study itself but never in the article about it.) As for the student, her lawyers sent a cease and desist so he doesn't get sued if he stops posting. There are probably two main reasons why they send it at all. First, it is for her safety and those around her, especially given the recent stalker issues she had in December and January. Second, she recently sold one of her planes. So the tracking exposed where the new owners were travelling, which is who was responsible for the many short flights everyone on social media was going crazy about. (I wouldn't be surprised if when she sold the plane, it was stipulated that she had to take care of the social media tracking thing with the plane.) I do agree with you on the overconsumption and merchandise fronts, though. Personally, I have never bought any of her merchandise, despite considering myself a Swiftie because I don't think it's necessary🤷♀.
I realize I engaged in this above, but I do think continuously dissecting her actions is unhealthy for all of us. Dissecting her lyrics is fine because it's part of the art. But the level of obsession some Swifties show, and the parasocial nature of it all is deeply concerning. However, at the same time, she and her music bring so much joy to so many, and I don't want to diminish that. Ultimately, we're all working with very limited information, and it is so easy to judge when we have no idea what it's like to be her. Critiquing her is fine, of course, and I don't think there's anything wrong with your video. But it behooves all of us not to take it too far. (Goodness, I never intended this to become an essay 😅)
Yes this!
Thank you for saying this! Agree with everything you said. Personally, I'm tired of people trying to make sense of absolutely everything she does, every action, word, and movement. It's exhausting and takes away the beauty of her music. Besides, we have no idea what it's like to be a person with so much influence, so much power, and not be able to say anything wrong, not make a mistake, because everyone jumps on you and judges you. I would go crazy.
I agree with the jet thing, and that is something that bothers me about her, but, as you say, it's taken out of context, and all the accounts dedicated to talking about celebrities blew things out of proportion because they know people will read it. I support the student thing because even if it's public information, and even if you're the #1 polluter in the world, you're entitled to your privacy. Period. The student could post all the information without saying where she is if he wants people to focus on the pollution that Taylor is generating, without jeopardizing her integrity.
I liked music more when there was no social media, tbh.
Thanks. I agree so much. Regarding the Joe thing, I now think I know why that relationship always felt SO OFF to me.
I always had this idea that Taylor was so happy and in love, putting him on a pedestal as you say, but felt that he resented her fame and her being a public figure. Yes, maybe she wanted privacy at first after all the drama she went through, but you cannot be Taylor’s boyfriend and expect to not be seen with her. In the end, that’s not what a normal relationship would ever be for her, because everywhere she goes she’ll be photographed, and THAT is the normal for her. Trying and constantly go to extremes lengths to hide it it’s just not really loving Taylor swift as a whole. Besides, nothing stops Joe from speaking his truth as well, and the fact that he’s already putting on the band aid before anything is even said is REALLY weird to me, because even in You’re loosing me I don’t think he really said anything really bad about him, just how she was feeling and a relationship growing cold after many years. It happens, and then you look back and realized that not everything was as good as you were painting it to be, and that actually things were off way before you actually accepted it. It also happens.
The Grammy thing I just think it’s dumb. I think people are forgetting that this is not the first time she’s announced a new album while accepting a reward. And honestly, she made history, it’s not the same feeling or even the same pressure as winning your first Grammy. What I also don’t understand about the Lana thing- Lana is not upset. Taylor is not upset. So why are people upset? 😅
I really like Taylor, I absolutely adore her art and her work ethic is inspiring. But I don’t think I’ll turn on Joe any time soon, because as an actual person, he is the bigger person (to me).
He keeps his silence and does not badmouth Taylor, while it feels like Taylor goes out of her way to paint him as the bad person. Instead he does use his privilege and reach to bring awareness to things that matter. I will always respect him for that.
Peace does describe it really well „Your integrity makes me seem small. You paint dreamscapes on the wall, I talk shit with my friends“
I also love her music and agree with your points. It's one thing to take up space, it's another to suck all the air out of the room like Taylor did at the Grammys. I think she's a sweet person, but no one around her will check her and tell her when she's being inappropriate. In reference to the video of Taylor with Boygenius and putting her grammy on people's heads, it was very upsetting to watch. She was clearly drunk and in her own world, caring more about taking photos than being there for a friend who was upset. Just listening to her lyrics and seeing all the videos and photos of her with drinks in her hands, I think she's had a problem for a while.
If it was a man would we be saying she “sucked the air out of the room”?
I agree with several of your points. Maybe the alcohol is contributing to her behavior or she just wants to let loose BECAUSE of how much pressure she is under. The media has been flooding everyone with Taylor content and the funny thing is she has always been the same Taylor but it feels like overnight the world finally saw how talented she is …after all these years!
If Taylor was a man I would be 100x more critical tbh, but I understand your point that the general population puts up with more from men. I do think in this case if a male artist was on video putting his award on people's heads and insisting on photos with a woman who was crying there would be even louder backlash and he would have had to publicly apologize. @@tinkerbelldisney09
30:32 From my perspective she’s just not the kind of person who would overthink. I believe she didn’t mean to steal the spotlight. But it’s definitely good for her to learn the lesson and think twice before she say or act and just be a little bit more considerate :)
I agree:)
Here are my thoughts:
1. Taylor can do whatever she wants in her awards speeches, it is her moment (personally, I felt like Miley's speeches gave the vibe that she knew before the show that she won)
2. Fans have been begging for a new album release and I feel like have almost pressured these releases out of her
3. People have given these strangers so much power in their own personal lives when in reality we are just consumers for their business
4. You can only be "out-shined" by someone else if we let them
5. We are in a post-pandemic world, I have changed as a person, and I'm sure Taylor has too. I think its insensitive to almost expect celebs to never change especially with the world we live in
6. In regards to Taylor's recent vibe - just look at all the new and unwarranted hate she has received, it has to be impacting her to some extent
The word is arrogant. She’s giving arrogant vibes
Taking up space and being yourself as a woman is most definitely not called “arrogance”. Your statement though is most definitely misogyny 🫡
@@by_jas12 it’s genuinely harmful to feminism and women in general when fans should “misogyny” over genuine criticisms or to deflect from any personal accountability.
There are plenty of misogynistic takes people have about powerful women for just existing. But labeling all criticism as misogynistic is counterintuitive and makes people discount actual misogyny
@@Carriedeeznutz 1) at most these are lazy, non-researched “complaints”. I made a separate comment providing all the actual context.
2) It is indeed misogynistic to call a woman taking up space and living boldly “arrogant”. No one would ever say that about Drake, Travis Scott, Bad Bunny or any male artist (or any man in general for that matter). Somehow it only seems to apply to Taylor because she dares to not be put in her place and act demure about her success. Again refer to my comment if you need a further explanation.
Hope this helps ✌🏼
@@by_jas12 I think I would agree. I would have to look into it more to make a judgement but anytime a woman takes up space she’s arrogant. Buuuuuut yeah. Again I’m not very well read on her
@@SwedishTourist We’re so so conditioned to immediately feel threatened when we see happy, successful women. It’s so normalised and ingrained in us that it’s hard to recognize sometimes. But everytime we do and check ourselves for it, it makes it easier for next time and easier to start celebrating each other 🌻
I adore Taylor but I can agree the grammys was a bit of an off feeling. I also adore Lana and fully agree that Taylor pulls inspiration from her (i think a lot of it goes into them having the same producer as well). But I feel like Taylor did give Lana that shout out in her speech, but I think bringing her onstage was not sensitive to Lana’s feelings at that time.
I adore your ability to always stand for what you believe in but see both sides. Thank you for always bringing so much light!
Thank you. This. I didn’t like it. It seemed like a show off “I’m such a good friend” not really meaning it. Besides even if she meant it with the purest heart Lana clearly did not want to go up.
lana herself has said that she didn’t have one negative feeling that whole evening and there were no bad vibes there. and her longtime fans who know her personality know that she’s on the shyer side and acts/looks like that most of the time. she’s a grown woman and if she wasn’t vibing with taylor she would have set her own boundaries. plus she was a collaborator on the album so it’s not crazy for her to have been on stage.
I totally agree with everything you said, I love Taylor I’ve been a fan since fearless, and while 100% she is still a person we need to remember that at this point ‘Taylor Swift’ is on the same level as the biggest brands in the world, she has a massive team of people curating things to the public, personally I feel I don’t want to get to caught up in it all, just enjoy the music
Taylor's Conscious Sun in Human Design *IS* about putting on a persona, using ego as a costume, and being seen. It can definitely be a triggering energy! But from an energetics perspective, I actually see her in quite full alignment to how she's meant to use her chart 🔥
You are right on point with everything you said, Kalyn. 👏
She’s suing this kid for exposing the truth… sad! hope.she.loses!
What an arrogant thing to do.
He's 22, not a kid. He doesn't care about the environment.
Everyone has completely missed the boat in this situation. First, it was a cease and desist, so if he stops posting, there's no suing. Second, she did it for two reasons, (1) she recently sold one of her planes, and so the tracking was exposing where the new owners were travelling. (I wouldn't be surprised if when she sold the plane, it was stipulated that she had to take care of the social media tracking thing with the plane.) (2) In December and January, she had some serious stalker issues, including one guy who went viral and a lot of her stalkers use these plane trackers for intel. It's dangerous not just for her but her staff, friends, and even neighbours.
@@theoriginal4ever7 Exactly
@@theoriginal4ever7 that guy wasn’t targeting Taylor though he was releasing data that was already public and not just Taylor’s data, other public figures such as Elon Musk.
Now, I do agree that giving her exact location is not necessary and does put her at risk.
But we need to keep these people accountable and not just Taylor, any public figure.
My big beef at the moment is her releasing 4 different versions of the same album with 1 song different, what purpose does that have other than getting your fan base to purchase more albums, I know she by far isn’t the only doing this but it seems like taking advantage of your fan base to me… whoever you are
Thanks for sharing Kalyn! I know it’s not easy bringing things to light when you look up to someone. I hope I can always be a Swiftie because it brings me so much joy. This video reminded me that Taylor is human at the end of the day.
I think Taylor grew up very insecure and now she is getting the validation she always intrinsically wanted. I almost feel like in moments like the Grammys where all eyes are on her and she has been drinking, she basked in the limelight a bit and neglected to realize that she is not the up and coming artist anymore but rather one of the top artists in the world. We are used to seeing humble Taylor and I think that night, Taylor let it be about her. I don’t think taking up space to announce her album was the issue but I think she may have been a little too drunk by the end which caused some of the blunders that happened with AOTY.
If we spend money on her merch, tours, music we are supporting her and in terms of the power she has we can hold her accountable to an extent. I think for me the main ask I have of Taylor is to use her platform and wealth to move the needle on the climate given that she does use her plane as a primary transportation tool. I respect that she works very hard and needs to get around safely but she has the money to help support finding more clean energy solutions!
You put my thoughts into words! I agree, I recently went to her concert and to be completely honest left feeling like oh that’s was okay (even though I did sing my little heart out and enjoyed the music)... I felt awful because I have been a Swiftie since Fearless. It honestly just felt like it was just another job for her.
I'm an older Swiftie in my 50s😊..
I definitely felt uncomfortable with her speech as well. She kind of seemed really full of herself and it left me feeling uncomfortable. I felt like she was putting people in their place. If her upcoming album is let me bash Joe I will have a REAL problem with that. I watched a video of when she was in lock down with Joe and she herself stated she LOVED the privacy their relationship had. Now she is saying she was a prisoner. If your a victim OK but, for 6 years she acted like this was what she wanted. She has a right to change her mind but, he has been a gentleman and I hope she will be just as kind and not use this album to smear him
Kalyn, I think this is more of a reflection of the fact that you are getting older and maturing (seeing things more as they really are), rather than T.S. changing. I'm a huge Swiftie. I am also about 99% sure that T.S. is on the spectrum. Her brilliance along with her "quirky" behavior and inability to read a room are some of the reasons why I've come to this conclusion. It doesn't change how big of a fan I am. She's possibly the best song writer of our lifetimes and I'll never let anyone question her abilities and talents. I also never idolized her, and haven't thought that I would be her friend in real life. This is just because I'm in my 40s and I see her for what she is- imperfect. Aren't we all!
that's so strange i was thinking about where you're at as a swiftie right now because she's just been so over the top lately. glad to know you're not one of those blind stans. she has so much privilege and power and doesn't really use it, it's really got to her head. Her silence on the current situation in pales-tine is deafening couldn't even say anything for the sake of her Pa1estin1an best friend. with the jet thing climate change affects communities of colour the most and here we are worried about the planet everyday whereas she just jumps in her jet without a second thought. her pr relationship is so cringy and feel like she's really not authentic any more. also who thought it was a good idea to call your album ttpd when they're torturing poets on Pales-tine could not be more tone deaf than that.
I feel very much the same way. Like I'll admit I love a good "I hate my ex" song but it seems disingenuous to all the songs talking about how much you enjoyed having a private place to then backpedal and say you were locked away! And I'll be disappointed if all the songs on the next album have that same vibe. It's okay to have a breakup album but you don't need to vilify your ex in the process. Think of Ariana Grande Thank U Next. The album was "thank you for your time and love, but my future isn't with you. You're a good guy, but we're not compatible" and that was amazing and mature and so much healthier! I'm kind of wondering if re-recording her old songs bashing her exes is also brining this side out bc "that was the formula for fame before, they're loving it again now, why change?"
I am also so sick of the rampant consumerism she's pushing. Like "oh you already bought this album but it doesn't have this song. Don't you want all the songs? Better buy that album again." It feels like all the merch and everything is just being pumped out as quickly as possible for more and more people to buy the same thing just in a new color and the quality is awful. The jet emissions are bad enough but what about all that waste for all the merch? I love Taylor but I don't like this direction and I hope things change.
I think there's absolutely nuance to this. A lot of people have decided that she can do no wrong, that she's a mastermind, etc; while completely forgetting that she's also human. Maybe her own hype is getting to her and she's forgetting that too. I also think though, that there's a lot of pressure on her to always be aware of everything she does and how it could be perceived, and maybe she's just tired of doing that.
In regards to your point about how she's contradicted herself regarding the privacy of her relationship with Joe, I think it's likely that it's just growth. At the time when that relationship was starting she was going through a lot and wanted to retreat from the public eye. After a few years though, maybe she wanted to rejoin society and he didn't. I can't blame either for those feelings, it's just a matter of growing apart.
All love Kalyn, but I don't quite understand why you feel like a Joever album would turn you off. As an OG Swiftie, I am hoping and praying for a return to the diaristic songwriting! I absolutely love folklevermore and midnights, but they feel quite detached.
It would be nothing new - Fearless is the Joe Jonas album, Speak Now is the John album, Red is the Jake album, 1989 is the Harry album. TPD potentially being the Joe album is just how she writes.
I also don't think she would be rewriting the history - she obviously was in love with Joe but now in hindsight she might realize how he was holding her back. Also to note how Speak Now has both Superman and Dear John... complete opposite sides of the coin for (what I think is) the same man
Not me trying to find clips of Taylor at the Grammys lol. I think every thing you said was well said and respectful. I don’t feel the same though because Taylor expresses her narratives through her music so to me she’s just doing what she’s always done… even if it isn’t the full truth - it’s her truth! There is a certain popular girl vibe I think she’s giving that I have felt a little uneasy about. I think her next album will be very telling!!
I got a similar vibe from the Grammy’s too. Specifically for the win were she announced TTPD. I’m hoping So Long London is bittersweet. She lost the relationship so she lost the connection to the city too. I hope she shows she can write a breakup song that is still mature and reflects the end of a healthy relationship! Not all relationships end because of toxicity. I hope she doesn’t make him the villain too 😩
Most of this video was just Kalyn dissecting and wishing Taylor acted like KALYN instead of herself. All the talk about not wanting Taylor to be small, but all your "why didn't she's" and "why would she's" asked her to be small. I think a lot of us like to think of ourselves as feminists and kind people, till the point someone gets 'too big' for our liking.
On the other hand, her carbon emission is obviously problematic and I hope she does better, saying this as a Swiftie💕
All of this combined with her calling herself an advocate in her documentary and yet doing and saying nothing about any of the causes she said she cares about. And she's allowing homophobia and racism in her fan base to go unchecked. She has so much power to make a positive impact with her words and words are kinda her whole brand. Even with feminism, she only brings it up as a way to defend herself or point to someone or something negatively impacting her. It's very disappointing. And yeah its scary to say anything because people act like critique and critical comments are an attack instead of concerns and conversations for growth.
It bothers me so much how many different versions of the same album just with a different song to make people buy more copies. And it just feels like a cash grab for me, she’s trying to profit as much as possible with every album. It just seems like really greedy thing
Also, when SZA was accepting her award and Taylor was standing and distracted her… I get that it’s amazing that she’s historically stood for everyone and supports all, but now that she’s at a level of such fame, it feels like “pick me” attention. Like the eye always has to be on her, even if subtly. It’s just all in poor taste at this point, and she’s old enough to recognize it and know better now.
idk, i feel like there’s a lot of valid reasons to criticize Taylor right now- like naming her album tortured poets dept while remaining silent on the Pal_stinian poets, writers, singers and authors that were actually tortured and murdered; Her staying silent while her fan base harassed Joe (meanwhile he has made several statements on Pal_stine) is also icky; Her suing a college student for just bringing awareness to public numbers, that’s also gross. But to me, her being drunk and weird and not reading the room at the grammys doesn’t bother me overall. i guess i just really wish conversations around her included a bit more nuance about how she props herself up in white feminism when it benefits her but maintains silence when other women are being kil_ed by the hundreds, thousands. (i say all this as a big fan of you Kalyn so please don’t think this is meant to be argumentative or critical of you, and also as someone who has loved Swift music for 15+ years and still will enjoy her music but at some point might dislike her dis/actions enough to stop listening.)
I 1000% understand where you’re coming from but if you want to discuss nuance when discussing the suing and not speaking on the atrocities occurring you you should understand that jack Sweeney was sued in December at a time when ONE of her stalkers had tried breaking into apartment 16 times in like a week and a half. She has so many stalkers and people actively trying to harm her. It’s for her actual safety leading into that speaking on the current g_nocide is also dangerous for her. Beyoncé hasn’t said anything bc people will go to extreme lengths to harm political opposition and while Taylor is on tour it’s safest for her and her fans at her shows for her to stay silent. There is enough awareness being made that Taylor stepping in won’t really change anything bc I_rael aren’t going to say “oh wow Taylor said she doesn’t support us we should stop now”. Plus she’s made sizable donations to P_lestine relief funds on the low.
Cease and desist ≠ suing
Also, just because it's public information doesn't give someone the right to make a dedicated page for people (like the stalker) to follow her every move. Again yes it's public information but it's a major safety concern to post about it minute by minute. Post about it 24 hrs later if you have to post it.
Even taylor update Instagram accounts have decided to post photos of her outings well after it happened to help ensure her safety
Wow, you know what, I hadn't made that connection with the album title being so insensitive - that leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. It's amazing how desensitised we can be even when it is a terrifying reality. Thanks for pointing that out.
I totally agree with all the points you are making. I would also like to add that it left a bitter taste in my mouth when I found out that she sued Olivia Rodrigo who is a big fan of hers for 1Million just cause a part of her song sounded like Cruel Summer. It felt like it was taking a baby's candy cause Olivia did say that Taylor was a big inspiration for her prior to being sued. Taylor even seemed to take Olivia and Conan Gray under her wings, calling them her "kids" so I don't know why she literally did a 180°
@@onlystarsknow767that didn’t happen. olivia’s team made the decision to give taylor and jack and st vincent credit independently of them knowing beforehand.
Older Swifties are cool too because we liked her when she was really just a cool story young girl musician. I like her music, I’ve never been like oh what’s Taylor doing
Thank you, this is how I feel.
I agree with most of what you are saying, but she did acknowledge lana del Rey. She got up on that stage and call her a legend. And if I was next to Celine dion I would be too starstruck to know what to say in front of her.
My two cents is with celebrities most times you never know if you’d like someone if you knew them in real life. Having a following doesn’t make you morally responsible or morally of high standard. We don’t know if our fav celebs are healthy balanced or self aware 💕 so we have a front row seat to someone’s humanity and that comes with often times questionable behavior. Love the video!
I’ve been feeling the same way in the last few months but I’ve tried to hide those feelings because I was so excited that I finally managed to get tickets to her show. I was supposed to go to Vienna N1 and obviously I understand the danger we were all in but the way she dealt with this, in fact she did not acknowledge anything and she probably won’t, it’s so disappointing.
As you’ve said, I will still love her music and appreciate her songwriting but I don’t think I like her as a person anymore.💔
I'm proud of you for making this video. For having the discipline to reflect on what we have been seeing in Taylor, and have the necessary introspection in order to reevaluate our perception of her as a person and her responsibility as a fellow human being. A human being who has an immense amount of power and influence, a human being who is well into her billionaire status, who refuses to speak on genocide and violations of human rights in both America and worldwide. It is difficult to reconcile with this, especially when you appreciate her art and her music so much. So I appreciate your contribution to this conversation that I hope more and more people are having. It is not an easy one to grapple with, but is important to deconstruct from this cult she has created, which starts with critical thinking and questioning her, and maybe one day, walk away from her.
yes! you put words to what i was feeling lately. I started feeling off when she put out multiple versions of her CDs...
Honestly I couldnt agree more on the Taylor concerns and its a little devastating to me since ive looked up to her for so long. In my very uneducated opinion, it could be Travis' influence on her. We ALL start resembling the person we're dating, and Travis isnt actually known for being quiet, mature, or respectful. He may be a super talented and kind human being with many other positive attributes, but he gives off strong "dominant, drunk, frat boy athlete" vibes that I think Tay might inadvertently be mimicking. Maybe she just needs to play out this side of her for a bit before she really finds who she wants to be as a grown woman. 🤷🏻♀️
The excessive private jet use is what bothers me the most. The 20 minute flights 😅. The Grammy stuff is whatever tbh, doesn’t really affect my life. But celebrities polluting the Earth does 😅. I am a swiftie btw too.
China who's carbon emissions is at 30%. So spare me that she's doing the most.
@@sherrythomas3028two things can be true 😅
The 20-minute flights are not her. This is why she sent the cease and desist to the guy tracking her flights. She recently sold one of her jets, and these short flights are the new owner. This is why the tracking is a problem.
@@sherrythomas3028 just because someone/something is worse does not mean we can’t criticize Taylor. That’s like saying „my partner cheated on me but oh who cares, some people are even more toxic so who am I to judge“
Taylors jet use cant be compared to a normal persons emissions. She is a business, and her emissions need to be compared to other businesses bringing in the capital she generates.
21:03 omg k. I'm so glad somebody else noticed this I felt so uncomfortable watching this. The whole time I'm saying out loud.. Um .. Lana is her own person she is a singer too why is she up there like some charity case who won to go to the award show with Taylor Swift and be on stage.. because yeah she wasn't even explaining why she brought Lana up there with her it was just so awkward I really didn't like that. I kind of was like "Lana what are you doing you are famous in your own right you don't need to follow this person on stage"..
(I don't know if I spelled the name "Lana" wrong but w.e)
Edit** I don't know how you popped up on my homepage-my subscriptions - I don't follow you, but I did watch this whole thing and I enjoyed it :)
I’m a Swiftie as well and somehow I feel like the reason why recently she acted this way is influenced by her new boyfriend because I saw a clip of him talking about his Super Bowl won and his vibe was kinda similar(?)
YES to this!!!! I love Taylor too & I’m actually so excited for the new album, the title at least sounds right up my alley lol. I didn’t even know about a lot of what you mentioned bc I just can’t keep up! I’m a 34 year old first time mama & I feel like I grew up with Taylor!
But I am not here for the superior vibes she’s giving off. I do think it’s understandable - not an excuse - but it doesn’t surprise me at all that she kind of has this insatiable need for attention bc because that’s what she built a career on. I remember watching I think it was Miss Americana on Netflix & I thought she seemed like all she could talk about was herself. It’s true - her money, her reach is hers to do what she will with it but “with great power comes great responsibility.” LOL cheesy but true.
It’s like Russell Brand was saying in an interview recently, he found that life to be very empty and unfulfilling. But most people aren’t going to walk away from that life. But I do think we should give people grace, we are all learning & we don’t know all the details of her life.
I think Hollywood celebrities / the elites just don’t give af honestly bc they know they can do whatever they want. They want to tell us what we should be doing / what’s right and wrong but they’re still going to use a private jet & not call out when something is truly not okay just because of who it is, etc. That’s a whole other topic but you get the idea 😂
I am a swiftie. I mean I listen to her only for 99% of the time. I am super excited for her new album. Being a student myself, i haven’t ever bought her merchandise etc tbh. But it really disappoints me when I see multiple vinyls, exclusive songs and stuff. I know she is a businesswoman but this capitalism just throws me off a little. I will always love her music and I won’t say I dislike her as a person but recently it all feels like a money game.. and it saddens me a little..
YESSSS! i am DIE HARD swiftie, but some of these songs are about Matty...and i know they've been pals for years, but its just hard to imagine she felt so deeply for him like she wrote in these songs especially after a 6-7 year committed relationship. now her and Matty don't talk, so in her dating him and it going poorly she lost a friend and she lost joe, so i imagine she felt very alone which is why she went full force with her tour..to feel less lonely. i went to the tour and it was amazing, but knowing she was hurting during it was hard too. rumors with Matty sparked right after my show and it THREW me. i was shocked she moved on so fast, and i hated feeling that way cause like i said, i love taytay. but after hearing TTPD, i think Matty was more of a crutch and a rebound for her and she realized it wasn't a good thing for her and they ended, she tried to change him and couldn't and it ended. that's sad cause she lost a pal over it, but i think now she reflects back and sees she didn't cope well and that's why she released TTPD for her. it gave us answers and broke our hearts at the same time. she seems genuinely free and happy with Travis though, so I'm happy for that. She even gave him a few songs on TTPD. i don't see this album as her bashing them, she actually bashed Matty more than joe.. with her songs about joe she seems genuinely heartbroken, but with matty...it was anger i think...idk. i feel like we just opened her diary..
Wait but about Lana on stage - she literally said that she’s a legend and so happy to be her friend etc. So she did acknowledge and thank her 👀
Have you ever heard of people being "mean nice". Ya that's what she was doing. Taking a jab at her in the nicest way . Look at the clip again. Lana DID NOT want to go up there. She was humiliated. She lost and still had to be on stage and watch her friend win for the millionth time! 😳 Meanwhile she has never won one single Grammy. She shrank to the corner and didn't want to be by the mic. It was pretty humiliating. I cringed so hard. Like poor lana. It was written all over her face.
It’s always nice to hear your point of view. You definitely made me think about things. Thank you for sharing
Thank you so much for putting this into words. I felt weird watching the Grammy's too, and I wasn't as happy as I thought I would be when Taylor got up on stage and announced the new album. Because of the way it was announced, because of Celine, because of Lana (and I'm a huge fan!).
And i understand that personal relationships are personal for a reason, but since Taylor is a public figure she could've used her publicity to tell some swifties to stop dragging Joe Alwyn down. She could've said something about it, but I don't think she did.
You're right, Taylor's taking up space, but not as genuinely as Miley at the Grammy's, instead it's a little suffocating. It feels like she has too much power, but she doesn't know how to wield it (shoutout to Marjorie). Also, folklore/evermore era is my favourite, too, because of the storytelling and the maturity 😌
I'm glad Taylor's liberating herself in a way, but she is becoming kind of arrogant. And it's sad in a way that she's not as inspiring anymore. At least at the moment.
I think we tend to forget that taylor is her own damn person & we all can’t control her nor is she the person we have in our minds. She’s human. She’s not on a pedestal. She’s not a god. Sometimes she’s shitty and that’s okay! She makes poor choices like any multidimentional person. She has been sending this message to us subtly to all her album, and since we dint get it, SHE SPELLED IT OUT IN TTPD. She aint a politician that we should have high standards pn
The only thing I agree with was the Celine Dion thing… that was weird and I too think it was probably a feeling of overwhelm that contributed to that.
However I don’t see any issue with her announcing an album at the Grammys. She’s there for album of the year so it’s completely relevant and I do think there IS room for everyone else. It seems like people are upset she’s the level of fame she is…. But she deserves to be there? She seems to work insanely hard. I think to act like she’s less than what she is is unfair and unreasonable.
Swiftie since TG here… Okay i will defend tay for a sec but i feel you - this was a record breaking win and a huge huge huge accomplishment. She said she was going to announce at the next tour date but she used her epic moment. I do feel her style right now is so forking money hogging. I’m so tired of the 6 versions of albums just because they’re different colors? After i fell into the folklore trap, i stopped buying more than 1 album per release. Ily Kalyn!
Honestly I only really care about animals. I don’t give a flying F about tik tok, politics, social media. Im protecting my peace daily in this cruel world. I will of course listen to her album and admire it and that is okay too.
Your video put my feelings into words. I had to make a conscious choice awhile ago that her music os for me to enjoy. I dont care who its about.
And to your point on older vs younger swifties... yes.. ive had to backbout the community because of the younger fans. I definitely feel in a few years time they will get bored and leave esp once the rerecords are done.
As a kid, I used to be crazy about movies, celebrities and watching award shows till late night but now over the years, I just feel like celebrities are normal people like us with their positive, negative traits and their whims. I just feel like nowadays, everything is not genuine...its all about PR and I'm truly over them!
Honestly, no hate to Taylor but I could not agree more with every single point you made. It definitly brings a distateful feeling.
I've never been a swiftie, don't really understand the appeal, but like a lot of other people I'm just not that into celebrities. They're just insanely rich people who are doing nothing benefit the rest of the world. Philanthropists deserve respect and admiration, not people who can sing or act or whose parents could sing or act 🙄
Coming from stan twt (not a Swiftie but MCU + kpop fan), and wow it is SO NICE to see someone speak with SANITY about a celeb and not being a weird ass sheep lol.
I’ve also been a swiftie since the early days. I try my best to only focus on the art. Folklore, evermore and kacey musgraves golden hour are some of my favourite albums. I feel like we have such a similar taste. I’m certainly still in the cottagecore, folklore, evermore era. I think it’s important to connect back to why you like the artist and not so much on all the niggly things. I don’t vibe with the cockiness and glitzy, overly publicised relationship so I do my best to ignore it. You’re right though, that much power should warrant integrity and responsibility. Thanks for openly speaking about this, it’s often easier to turn a blind eye to these issues when you’re a fan xx
woww you've worded this so perfectly, literally adore her music more than anything, have her lyrics tatted on my arm- but yeah lately it feels like shes on a bit of a bender, not really processing events in her life and feeling a bit indestructible while also hurting which cant be a good mix. The inconsideration for the climate just isnt defendable either. You could argue she never asked to be a political activist but shes undeniably one of the most influential people in the world and that comes with responsibility. Also I'll always love Joe, they were allowed to not work out that doesn't mean he didnt give it his all at the time.
I fully agree, the thing with the grammy on the head, I feel like that is an Easter egg we don't understand yet. But I agree that is weird. Also again, BIG CONGRATSSSS!!!!!!!
Loved this talk! Thank you for sharing your thoughts with an open mind and honesty 🫶🏻
I love hearing you say this, because I've also been a little bit conflicted about this. I love seeing how happy Taylor is now that she's bejeweled, and I've convinced myself that TTPD isn't going to be a "Better than revenge" "Picture to burn" situation. Yes, of course this is going to be about her past relationship with Joe, but maybe from a poets perspective? More like "Begin Again" vibe, like telling the stages of a relationship (the beggining, the middle, the feeling lost, the time to say goodbye...). I really don't see how Taylor, being now in a happy relationship, could put out a whole album about (and trashing) her ex. So yeah, I'd like to think that this album is going to narrate the stages of a relationship from a poets' perspective.
I completely agree with everything you said 💔 I loveeedd the maturity of the folklore & evermore era. I’m kind of ready for her to stay more mature in her music and songs now 🎶
I also think you’re dammed if you do and you’re dammed if you don’t. I hope that this album brings growth and maturity and it definitely will be a pivotal moment from the og swifties to the newbies - no shame on the newbies. lol I wish she wasn’t as popular as she is because it takes away from the lyrics and I feel like there are so many people that are sick of her and don’t want to take the chance to get to know her music. From my understanding there was a back up plan like announcing it at the Grammys was not the original plan. Also I am here for these podcasts. I love going along my evenings and listening to you talk. I also know Taylor is a very articulate person and I feel like everything always has a reason.
Very true, no matter what she does it’ll be picked apart. The part I’m struggling with (which is very parasocial and I am aware) is that I feel I usually feel really drawn to people for their realness, kindness and humility and I’m not getting those vibes.
I agree with everything you've just said! Thank you Kalyn for this video!
Hey Kalyn, thank you for your thoughtful perspective! I feel like she wants to enjoy every moment of her "peak" right now, but I also like her a lot during folklore and evermore.
She did give Lana a major shoutout in her speech and said we all have her to thank. But i totally agree that taylor shpuld not have dragged her up there - it did not look like she wanted to go
For me it’s really hard to place a judgement on her that she “should not have” insisted that Lana come up on stage with her. It is very true that Lana did not want to go, but I think that Taylor probably saw that as simply being too bashful to claim some of that light with her. She did not only sing on her album, she also helped write snow on the beach so I feel like she had just as much reason to be up there as Jack. That said, I think even if she had let go and just accepted that Lana didn’t want the lime light in that situation that she would have been criticized for that too. I think Taylor’s heart was in the right place, but she wasn’t really “reading the room” very well in that moment either. But that’s also understandable because I think she was genuinely very caught off guard that she won the Grammy in that category. She clearly was not even a tiny bit as eloquent in her acceptance speech as she normally is.
I agree, and have felt especially disappointed ever since her private jet excess came to light and she never attepted to even acknowledge it. She breaks records and challenges sytems frequently. I feel she could do so much good if she gave some attention the issue. E.g. Coldplay.
Sidenote - when i first saw the tracklist, I read 'loml' as '10 milliliters' 😂
why isn’t literally any of the 30+ public figures who’ve used their jets far more than Taylor being asked to “acknowledge their private jet use”
I'm asking them to too! Don't worry!
@@samanthadavies2052 lol where
This video is about Taylor Swift, so it makes sense, I think, to discuss her here. You can find plenty of discourse in other places where the subject is Travis Scott, Jay Z, etc. I absolutely echo the same message there. I understand that it feels this criticism is heavily focused on Taylor. Do you think that could be because if her immense current popularity and influence (Time's person of the year)?
In a world of nearly 8 billion individuals, if I was in the top 30 of a list like this, I don't think I'd feel great about myself.
@@samanthadavies2052 If you’re going to single Taylor out as the face of an issue, it’s also worth mentioning the other guilty parties to paint a complete picture. If we’re so concerned about the environment Taylor is supposedly polluting, why aren’t we talking about the 100 corporations that generate 71% of carbon emissions or fast fashion that generates 10%. The entire aviation industry (as in every single plane on this earth) generates a total of 2% of carbon emissions. If we’re that concerned about the environment, then let’s critique the ACTUAL guilty parties.
Not just a successful musician who is literally unable to fly commercial due to the commotion her presence causes, not to mention the safety aspects.
Because as it stands all this looks like is a group of people using the guise of environmental/societal issues to dog pile on one woman.
She seemed like she was actually high on something. Maybe cocaine or Adderall or something? It was all just so weird to watch. I have never seen her act like that and have been a fan of hers since like, 2008.
I understand your frustration with the latest news about her. About the Jet tracking I think it’s so conflicting. I mean for example I heard that Elon Musk was also doing legal actions against the student because he is also tracking his jets. But when someone like Elon does it, it’s somehow irrelevant and does not get ripped apart but if she’s doing it because I mean all cameras in the world are following her in every step of the way, she gets criticised for.
I think in popculture this happens all the time when a celebrity is so up high in the clouds for praise, the downfall, the bad press, the criticism is already knocking on the door just waiting to see the crash. She was/is all over the news the last months and year and I think after the whole albums (TV and TTPD) are out we are likely going to hear many many months nothing from her and she’s disappearing again.
We see so little of them and probably know absolutely nothing about them really so we of course have to talk about every move and every word they say or don’t say.
I don’t know.
And with the new album I mean I was excited to hear that we get another album from her. And of course there are going to be songs of Joe. But I mean we can’t be enjoying Dear John and All to Well when we are criticising that there are probably going to be (like you said because of the one interview) some pretty (for her!) „truthful“ and maybe harsh story’s about him, right? I don’t know.
Yes Joe didn’t say anything until now but did a guy ever say anything? I understand where you’re coming from I and appreciate that you don’t only see a black and white picture
We can really judge everything people do publicly. Like I see where you are coming from, and many things people do such as Taylor is questionable. But then again, that is true for so many. For example, the amount of people with a platform (including smaller platforms such as yours) who are not saying anything about for example Palestine. So there are very many who are not using their power. The amount of people who do not recognize (or care) for example the harm their everyday actions have on Indigenous peoples.
Great points! love this video definitely shed some light on things I haven’t been keeping up on. Also, you speak so eloquently. Gosh, I wish I was a as graceful as you. I stammer a lot and can hardly hold a well conversation cause of my social anxiety
As a long time swiftie I'm glad you put into words what I haven't quite been able to put my finger on recently about her. I guess all we can do is wait and see what the vibe of TTPD will be and hope for the best (as in like you said I also hope it won't completely bash Joe) but again time will tell!