Massey Ferguson GC1700 Tech Tips: Preventative Maintenance
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- Preventative Maintenance is the key to increasing the longevity and life of your Massey Ferguson GC Series Investment. Using the Genuine Parts & Accessories to maintain your tractor will provide years and years of enjoyment and work from it. Here is some Tech tips to help make it easier if you decide you want to perform your own service. Or if in West Central Missouri we can perform the work for you at Vahrenberg Implement www.vahrenberg.com
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Ooooh. Those windows are bright. This video though is even brighter! Thank you for it!!!
They let a lot of light into our shop so our mechanics can see what they are doing. Thanks for the comments and Tanks for Watching.
Thanks for the advice. Appears you have to remove the drive shaft as well.
Outstanding presentation! Thanks very much!
Glad it helped. We plan on doing more in future. Be sure to subscribe to our channel. And share with friends.
Good video, it sure will help with everybody's maintenance and a lot of cool stuff too. thanks Doug.
Thanks didn't want it to sound like infomercial but there is lots of cool tools from AGCO Parts that can help owners perform their Preventative Maintenance. Keep watching and keep making your own videos we love watching them too!
I love your videos as well!! You helped me learn a lot, including digging out stumps. Keep the Masseys Going!
Really appreciate this video. It reinforces building a good relationship with your dealership. Your video also reminded me that I'm overdue for a preventative maintenance service. Have a fine weekend. Enjoyed a full-watch. 👍🏽🙂
Glad it helped. Massey Ferguson has been doing several maintenance videos too. Be sure to check them out. They good resource too. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I just purchased a GC1715 and appreciate your information. I understand a manual is supplied for the maintenance information, however, a video with hands on always helps less book smart people.
Glad it helped! And welcome to the Massey Ferguson Family the worlds largest family of tractor owners! Keep watch and be sure to share some video of your tractors in action.
Watching your videos makes me miss my lil gc1710. Dang divorces. Gotta love'em, huh?!? I plan on getting me another one, though. Preferably the gc1720 this time. Watching your videos actually got me to buy my first one. You had me sold on these baby tractors. I live in KY, or I would have got one from you to help you out. Have you ever watched Paul Short? He's a great friend whom loves tractors, too. I always like to recommend his videos, especially his tractor mod videos. He's an "orange tractor" guy, but we won't tell. 😉 He talked one time about going to a different brand. Who knows. Maybe he will be a "red tractor" guy with a toy like yours. GOD Bless, Sir.
Thanks for the Kind Words! That makes it worthwhile to do these videos. Buying a Massey Ferguson is enough support...you deserve that local dealer support and always recommend buying local. I've seen some of Mr. Short's videos he's good with his content. I tell people daily don't buy because of the color or logo, buy for the right reasons...what's under the paint and past the logo and most of all what's BEST for YOU. I believe that's Massey Ferguson but it is your investment and your money.
Doug, I really appreciate your videos, very helpful and informative. I just took delivery of a new 2017 GC1710tlb last Friday, excellent machine and worth far more to me than what I paid. It was discounted because it had been on the lot for a few months and had 4.3 hours on it. I could not have made a better choice after testing, driving and researching SCUT's for nearly a year and your videos went a long way in my making the decision to go with Massey. Thanks again for the great videos, I've watched them for a while now and hope you make more. Best Regards!
Glad we could be of help in your research. We love our Masseys too. Share some videos of your Massey in action so we can share with our customers and potential buyers.
@@VahrenbergImplement what isd the best tiller compatible with the GS 1705???
We have been selling the RhinoAG SRT48. Here is video we did with the GC1705: ua-cam.com/video/1yfJvY3apCc/v-deo.html
I know this is 3 years later but do you have a copy of the checklist? I have lost mine. I have the same tractor.
Love your videos. Do you recommend using any fuel additives on a gc1710? I live in PA and we have such a difference in temp from season to season.
We recommend using AGCO Parts D-Max Winter Fuel Additive if you still have summer fuel left in the tractor going into the winter season. It doesn't hurt to run the regular D-MAX Conditioner all year long. It improves the Cetane Rating of the Fuel and emulsifies water and keep carbon cleaned from the combustion chambers. it only takes a little D-Max to go long ways. Your Massey Ferguson Dealer can get AGCO Parts D-Max Products. One thing you need to watch many products are large volume containers but require large dosing rates as most of the product is petroleum distillates or filler. Active Ingredients is what mattes and dosage rate for protection. That's why we recommend the AGCO Parts D-MAX Products plus it's AGCO Service Approved and you want have to worry if it's approved for use in your engine.
Thanks, very informative. Any tips on replacing the motor serpentine belt?
First is to loosen the Alternator and get belt around fan (may need to remove fan blade) once around fan, crankshaft and alternator pulley use alternator adjustment to tighten the v-belt.
You forgot to mention the hydro screen that is behind the left (as sitting on the tractor) rear wheel, and some other small things like lubing the front drive shaft.
thanks for the reminder. We tried to cover everything and will add that in the video comments so others don't forget.
Informative video!
Thanks. Glad it helps. We are going to try and do more Maintenance and Service Videos in the Future.
what grease do you recommend. Also do you recommend certain grease in cold or hot conditions and or different grease for the front end loader portion of tractor vs rest of the tractor that needs grease thanks for the videos you do on Massey!
We recommend the AGCO EP-2 Grease it is a premier multipurpose grease for all temperature applications and all types of applications loader, pto, steering joints, etc. It's a Rykon Poly-Urea Grease that offers more storage capacity of the lubricants and additives to provide superior service and longer life than lithium grease. Grease is constructed with a base product Lithium or Polyurea which acts like a sponge then the lubricants and additives are blended as the equipment is uses the additives & lubricants are released from the base or sponge during use or rise in temperature from heat or friction. When you stop the base or sponge soaks up the addititives & lubricants to be ready for the next operation of the equipment. EP-2 provides a higher dropping point and can be used in high temperature applications and makes it a better use for more than just a common Lithium Grease.
@@VahrenbergImplement thanks keep the great information and videos going
Thank you. Any videos n flushing the coolant on a GC1715? Thanks
We have not done a flushing radiator video. Follow the Flushing Chemical Instructions normally require warming engine to normal operating range then draining flushing solvent. Then reinstall coolant 50/50 Mix is recommended for most areas for freeze protection.
Does AGCO/Massey Ferguson have a second air filter available for inside the large round filter? I know some of the other sub-compacts do and it looks like there might be a holder for a smaller inner filter. Just wondering. Thanks for all your work on these video!
Not on this tractor. But larger tractors do offer dual element. The Inner Element is only a safety if something happens to the outer like a puncture or tear.
Vahrenberg Implement Ok. Thanks for the information. Competitors tractors in this size do have an optional filter you can add. I just wondered. Thank you!
As long as you Maintain the Filter per the operators manual you should not have a need for a dual element on this size tractors. Just an added expense most will never need. If your working in extremely dusty environment like a dirty hayfield or dirt field for 8, 10, 12 hours a day and don't check and clean the air cleaner then I could see the added expense. It's very rare in our 66 years to see even professional farmer's tractors that need the safety element changed.
Vahrenberg Implement Correct. But it would give some peace of mind. As fast as the clean out screen gets filled when mowing with the belly mower, if one was available, I would use it. Thanks for your reply.
@@ncsucpetractorfun i use to have a kubota bx. I wanted a inner filter as well, jus like agco they didnt offer one and jus like agco didnt want to look outside the box and see what would fit. I am sorry but i dont know the part number jus yet but when i do i will put it on here cause i am "wanting" one for my gc1720 so i will have peace of mind as well.
I have a 2002 mt265 challenger which is the same as a 1433 massey I am needing a loader valve joystick and was wondering were to hook the hyd hoses up on the tractor the inlet power beyond, return to tank.
We didn't get started with the Massey Ferguson Brand till 2008. But looking at MT265 parts book on www.agcopartsbooks.com the Loader Joystick was built into the tractor. Do not know if that was standard equipment or option on those models. If your adding a loader mounted valve the loader valve manufacturer normally supplies a power beyond plate to match the tractor your are working with. Maybe you can explain more what you have and trying to do. Or give us a call and might be able to direct to a dealer that was selling those products that can help 660-584-2250
I'd like to get my hands on that maintenance guide sheet getting close to my 50 hr.
We build our own sheets from the Operators Manual. I would ask your dealer to do that as a service for their customers. We create these for our customers whom purchase from us.
great idea and great video
Do you have any of the quick reference sheets on the new 1700m series. Maybe you could post on fb. Thanks
We custom build for each customer to the tractor they purchases as an added value of buying from Vahrenberg Implement. We do not pre-build them until we sell a tractor.
My book says 5W30 or 10W30 CJ4 Oil for the Motor
Yes it does now on the latest edition that 5w30 (CJ-4) or 10w30 (CJ-4) about the same time the Engine Oil Filter Changed to different product on the GC Series.
At 11:54 in the video you recommend the AGCO Hi Temp EP-2 grease which I believe is part number 79014733, but my GC1723E manual calls for "AGCO Multi-Purpose Lithium II Grease or equivalent" which is part number 79014728. Any reason for the difference? Thanks!
79017433 is a Rykon Poly Urea Based Grease which can hold more lubricants & additives versus Lithium Based Greases. Think of the base like a sponge as the components move and heats up the lubricants and additives become more liquid and move to lubricate. When you stop using the base soaks back up the lubricants & additives. If you use a Poly Urea style base it has more holding capacity than Lithium Base. Lithium is the bare minimum Poly Urea is a High Grade and better grease and only 38 cents difference in price.
@@VahrenbergImplement Thanks for the clarification. Your videos are great and have helped me quite a bit. I really appreciate it.
Could you share the part # for the spout that screws onto the oil containers?
G2032 we have them instock and can ship if your dealer does not have them. Call our Parts Department 660-584-2250
Any way I could get the oil spec and parts list you referenced. It was a white sheet you held up. Thanks
We custom build those for our customers when they purchase a tractor from us. I would ask your dealer if they can build one for you.
Interesting. First, thanks for the info, video quality and time. I just purchased a 1723EB. Only 3hrs right now. Manual calls for 10W30. Is there a discrepancy? Dealers run 15W40 from what I hear.
Albeit, I would like to stick to the manual but I’m open. I have a huge supply of Schaeffer’s 10W30 and 15W40.
The New Manuals after this video was done now recommends for most climates 10W30 but also list alternative weights depending on Maximum and Minimum Temperature in your region. in severe colder climates 5W30 Synthetic is recommended. Consult your operators manual for recommended oils for your climate.
I've never seen a manual saying anything other then 5w30/10w30 viscosities to be used in the ISEKI engine, I don't know why some dealers push 15w40 that thick oil is not needed.
Just looked at all 4 Operators Manuals GC2300, GC2400/2600, GC1705, 10, 15,20 Manual and when running in ambient temperatures above 14°F you can use 15w40 MultiGaurd Engine Oil. The New GC1723E & GC1725M do not recommend 15W40. 10W30 CC Rating or Above is Most Recommended but can run Straight Weight oils based on Temperature Range of use. Most 5W30 Oils are not Diesel Rated. We are recommending 10W30 CJ4 for use in our area on the current GC1723E & GC1725M.
@@VahrenbergImplement thanks for the clarity on the older models. There are a few brands now producing a 5w30 HDEO CK-4(backward compatible to previous API Cx oils), Mobil, Amsoil, Rotella to name a few. I'm glad to see you guys are recommending the correct viscosities like I said I hear many don't
AGCO Parts has 5W40 Full Synthetic CK-4 available.
Whats part number on oil fill tube? I bet that will work for any oil jug. KOOL! I may just call and order one from you guys to help you out. Thanks.
AGCO Part Number is G2032 for the Pour Spout. Our price is $7.39 we can ship if you can't find one locally.
Vahrenberg Implement I can never catch local one open. I'll try and call you all tomorrow. Thanks for the reply.
Our number is 660-584-2250 give us a call.
you should put that form for download.
We custom build these lists for each customer we sell to, to match the tractor. It changes with every sell we make. Ask your dealer to create one for you. That is how we got started. We do it to help our customers buy their Service Parts from our Dealership.
Would you be willing to share that cheat sheet with the part numbers and pages?
We custom build them each time we sell a tractor to match the Operators Manual and Tractor so the correct page number and filters are matched to that tractor. I would ask your dealer to create one for you to match your machine and manual. Things change from time to time and would need to see your manual and tractor to build one. It's not the same for every unit but is part of the value when customers buy from us.
Where did the fill tube come from?
AGCO Parts the Genuine Parts Supplier for Massey Ferguson has them as part of their Workshop Products. Your dealer should have them or can get them. We did a video on them: ua-cam.com/video/Z6HDD6aPguw/v-deo.html
Hey can I get one of those checklists????
Your dealer should be able to make one for you. We custom build these for each tractor we sell to our customers to help them.
@@VahrenbergImplement yea I doubt my dealer will do that. Thanks though. I know how to use Google
You should suggest it to them. It's a value added service we provide to our customers to help them come back to our dealership when they need their maintenance parts. I would think any dealer would be willing to help their customers buy maintenance items from their dealership.
@@VahrenbergImplement yea my dealership just charged me 650 dollars for the 50 hour service with pickup and delivery lol. I'm definitely a subscriber unfortunately too far away from you guys. You seem like you take care of your clients.
Not very useful he skips over or omits important parts such as removing the drain plug and the specifications that are required to keep the warranty in effect. The Arco oil and hydraulic fluid is obscenely expensive there's no reason for it to be that expensive over generic brands.
There is no replacement for the Operators Manual and it is the Official Guide to Servicing Your Tractor. This was a Help Video to discuss Maintenance to Determine if a Customer is interested in pursuing his own maintenance or having trained dealer mechanic to do it.
Know what's Expensive? When someone uses non-approved Oil and a component fails. AGCO Parts Permatran 821XL Oil is not just a Hydraulic Oil it's a Premium Product from Premium Base Stocks, the Best Additive Package and most highly tested & documented. It's Semi-Synthetic Product. Might want to learn the differences: ua-cam.com/video/jIEHu5nM_3U/v-deo.html. We actually offer Both AGCO Permatran/821XL and Sparex Legacy Universal Tractor Fluid (AGCO Owns Sparex) Sparex UTF states it is a "Functional Alternative" but it also states is not recommend for Tractors or Equipment under Manufacturer Warranty and designed as alternative for older tractors. It is effective as a general purpose hydraulic oil for use in equipment that doesn't require the technology advanced specifications of premium hydraulic fluid. It's $30 Cheaper right now for 5 gallon Bucket versus AGCO Premium Permatran/821XL BUT IS NOT A REPLACEMENT. You must use oil that Meets or Exceeds Massey Ferguson M-1145 Specifications to maintain the warranty. If you choose to use non AGCO product I was ask the Oil Manufacturer you choose what is their warranty coverages if you do encounter a component failure and the oil when tested does not meet the Minimum Specs set forth by Massey Ferguson.