Too often people play racquets how they would like to play but not how they play. I see so many RF97 players out there, that have no where near the physical attributes note technique to utilize the frame.
Again wrong, I play with RF 97, that racket isn't a beast at all. I have also modded the racket to add more weight and I rarely go back to stock. Infact one should start with a lighter frame and add leadtape until you can get the frame you want. It all depends on your style of game. For me RF 97 is perfect, I can't play with lighter frames with no stability.
As an intermediate player coming from a heavier racquet (Pro Staff 6.0 95 original) to a Babolat Drive Z Lite and now to a Babolat Pure Drive Lite, I find a lighter racquet to be easier to use as to spin and power. As I age, I need a racquet that helps me easy access to power and spin. I guess as some people say it is about personal preference and I would say that to be true to me. I was fan of Sampras during his era and I now keep my Pro-Staffs as collector items (I have both the 85 and 95 6.0 Pro-Staff original). Both are heavier racquets (12 oz. or over) and are preferred by more advanced players.
Great content. I was on the Head web site earlier in the week and took an assessment of my style of play. I was matched with the Head Extreme MP, and that's going to be my next racket. I have always used Head rackets, beginning with the old XRC (their first graphite racket) and later the Edgewood. I play with an older Head Pro now, but am looking to upgrade to the Extreme. While they recommend stringing the Extreme at 50 pounds, I'm going lower, to 40 pounds and using a softer string.
Funny, when I was a kid I used to compete with 330 - 340 g (unstrung and head heavy) racket and I had absolutely no issue with it. Then (in 90s) heavy rackets were standard. And these 330 g heavy rackets were considered to be light. Think of it. Nowadays we are overthinking everything too much. We have killer and very light rackets compared to what we had in 90s and we are looking for issues where there are really no issues.
Probably one of your best reviews ever. Auxetic made speed so solid. Great solid connected feel with filtering vibrations. I am very glad that it did it’s magic even on lighter sticks like mp lite. Coupled with a heavier string like lynx tour it would be an awesome easy to use stick for tournaments. I am only curious if it works for 1HB.
@@Tennisnerd yeah it may be the auxetic. I was wondering all these years when you will like a lighter stick. I use blade 98s 2015. It’s super solid despite low static weight. What i enjoyed with auxetic speed was how more solid and fulfilment ball contact was….. previous speed since ig youtek were ALL hollow and auxetic brought life back to them. It kinda reminded the solid feel of blade v5. I even sent an email to head and asked them why they don’t release an 98 inch of speed mp…… i mean they have all these lines and they don’t have a single 98 inch power frame like strike, SX tour or pure aero vs. Radical mp and extreme tour are no way powerful frames…… I am glad it worked fine on your 1HB cause 100 sticks don’t give me the needed wrist freedom for quick actions or the joy on 1HB take back of a slimmer throat mold. These days i am only interested on racquet lines like strike, aero, extreme and v core. Lines that give you extra spin and power….. it’s all about winning on recreational tennis tournaments my man…. no more favours on my opponents with players racquets if you know what i mean….. but i always search for that easy to play stick that also offers solid ball contact….. and that’s why i still use blade 98s v5……
Great review! I used to look for these types of rackets, maybe in the 280/290g because they are so much easier to take to the court and also because with lead tape you can actually adapt the racket to your game everytime you feel something's wrong
Thanks! It does confuse me a LOT too. I don't recommend all this switching because it screws up your timing etc. When I play with the same racquet, I play a lot better overall.
@@Tennisnerd I’ve reviewed a few racquets on my channel and my game is still recovering. 😂. I’ve always wondered if I could play well against big hitters with a light racquet. The heavier frames just give me more confidence as I know I get tight and my swing speed slows down.
So true. All because of you jonas 😜. I fancied myself as an attacking flat hitter like you , so i went and bought yonex vcore pro 18x20 320g (also because it was low stifness). Recently i switch to a pure drive and while i dont have the pinpoint precision as before , i am ripping deep shots consistently even when out of position. Such an enjoyable racket , hope i dont get any arm pain
Hehe, many players, often including myself, use racquets that can be quite punishing in the long run. If you get arm pain with the PD, there are more comfortable options out there.
Interesting as I'm actually going the opposite direction to a heavier racquet. I've been playtesting for a bit and have actually found a heavier racquet seems to fit how I play better and is also easier on my elbow than the lighter babolat aero I was playing with.
@@rusty935 except I've went up on weight playtesting with several different brands with no issues. Try lighter of those as well and I have issues immediately.
I don't understand why more people don't start with a lighter racket, and then customize it to spec with silicone and lead. It seems like that's one of the primary advantages to ligher prostock hairpins - the ability to polarize the weight distribution, add some damping with silicone in the handle, get the SW just right at the right static weight. What am I missing? Why isn't this the standard for gear nerds?
Sir, I enjoy the detail associated with your work. I noticed a sign with the Fischer logo. In the 90's they made some nice mid and mid-plus racquets. I believe Yevgeny Kafelnikov used one. If I'm not mistaken, it was an Austrian based company. I play tested one and regret not buying 10. Do you know anything about their racquet line, if they still make any at all? Thanks so much.
I'm not Jonas, but so you know, all Fischer molds were bought by Pacific at some point in time. You can get a Pacific racquet right now, but won't get that desirable logo though.
So I have started to look around. And currently I play the Wilson burn v4 in both the spin and the 100. I like the feel but an nothing now that I am lacking a lot of power. Would this racquet be something to consider? I play a heavy back hand slice but also hit a two handed with top spin. Service wise, I am a very big slice serve player.
Hi Jonas, like always, thanks for the content! I am missing in your videos the changes that you wanted to implement after your training sessions in Spain, particularly on the backhand! ;)
I’m switching from an wilson ultra 100 v3 because it gives me to much power with so little stability and control. Do you think that the extreme mp is similar to the ultra? If so! Should I instead ago for the speed mp? I want spin and power but I want control as well. Does the spin potential differ a lot between speed mp and extreme mp?
@@temafomenko I demoed the extreme mp graphene 360 (not the plus version) and I didn’t like it. But I have never tried the newer extremes and never had the chance to
Hey ! I hope you are doing well ! Question, Is there any difference between a basic damp like wilson sells and the one on your racket, with the empty middle ? (it is a luxilon right ?)
im a 3.0 - maximum 3.5 player playing for like 1,5 years im playing maximum 1x per week and i dont train with trainer, only play with a friend i took the extreme MP was this the wrong choice? should i have taken a lighter one?
Hey jonas - any chance you could do a video on madison keys’ set up? I can see at Cincy she doesn’t have a full string bed (missing crosses at top and bottom). What does that achieve ? Any other players who do this?
We need to talk about this colorscheme. Is this possibly the ugliest paint job on any racquet made so far? Great review as always! I just honestly don't think I could see myself buy something this ugly looking, even if you put your approval on it.
it prob goes head to head with the vcore 95 ugly moron /orange/light blue paintjob there is out there. If the guy who designed it wasnt colourblind then tennis balls arent yellow either.
Thanks Jonas. I am using something similar. I guess I am a bit old fashioned, I am getting 50 in September, and when I started to play tennis in the 80s it was a totally different school. I never really managed to adpat the heavy topspin and SW grip in my game. I am on racket journey currently. In the past years I tested many different rackets (TFight 305 XTC & RS, TFlash, Ezone 100, K7 Cyan), and now it looks that Vcore 95 2021 (with Poly Tour Fire 1.20 22-21 kg) really fits my style, it looks to be very good both on topspin shots and on flatter shots as well. I am the kind of guy who enjoys the muted feel. So my journey might have ended.
Hello super video, do you prefer Head Extreme Mp Lite (285gr) o Tecnifibre Tf-x1 (285 gr ) in termins of control and comfort, power I think will be similar . Your answer is very important for me, thanks
I think racquets are being built and marketed all wrong. The average 3.0 all the way to 4.5 player are just fine with racquets under 300 g unstrung. However based on product availability and marketing, we’re lead to believe 300g is the starting point for any serious player. It’s simply not true. My strokes look a lot more like Kyrgios than they do Fed, Djoker, Stan, etc. If he can use a 300-315g racquet unstrung then so can I. Us amateur players need as absolutely much racquet head speed as humanly possible. We don’t need more stability at sub 5.0 tennis.
heavy racket crap is a falacy. All pros play with heavier frames and high swingweight and that's how they generate power and spin. If you are 4.5+ level player and have decent technique going for greater weight will only help your game. One should maximize the swingweight for your level of game. Also new rackets are just branding exercise, racket tech hasn't changed much infact some of the older frames were much better. Case in point the original Pro Drive was a perfect racket and Babolat has made it worse through the years. Rest is just paintjob changes, we all know none of the pros play with these frames anyway. TN is right on the fact find a custom frame that suits your game style though.
In 90s when I was a kid I competed with 330-340 g (unstrung) racket and it was completely normal back then. Everyone actually said these were very light rackets compared what rackets had been few years before.
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Too often people play racquets how they would like to play but not how they play. I see so many RF97 players out there, that have no where near the physical attributes note technique to utilize the frame.
This
what physical attributes you need to play rf97?
Again wrong, I play with RF 97, that racket isn't a beast at all. I have also modded the racket to add more weight and I rarely go back to stock. Infact one should start with a lighter frame and add leadtape until you can get the frame you want. It all depends on your style of game. For me RF 97 is perfect, I can't play with lighter frames with no stability.
@@iceman1125 you're probably bad lmao
@@uchihasasuke7436 sure have to be since the great Mr Sasuke has said so
As an intermediate player coming from a heavier racquet (Pro Staff 6.0 95 original) to a Babolat Drive Z Lite and now to a Babolat Pure Drive Lite, I find a lighter racquet to be easier to use as to spin and power. As I age, I need a racquet that helps me easy access to power and spin. I guess as some people say it is about personal preference and I would say that to be true to me. I was fan of Sampras during his era and I now keep my Pro-Staffs as collector items (I have both the 85 and 95 6.0 Pro-Staff original). Both are heavier racquets (12 oz. or over) and are preferred by more advanced players.
Very detailed. I was not sure which to buy head extreme or pure drive or aero. Now I have some clarity.
Great content. I was on the Head web site earlier in the week and took an assessment of my style of play. I was matched with the Head Extreme MP, and that's going to be my next racket. I have always used Head rackets, beginning with the old XRC (their first graphite racket) and later the Edgewood. I play with an older Head Pro now, but am looking to upgrade to the Extreme. While they recommend stringing the Extreme at 50 pounds, I'm going lower, to 40 pounds and using a softer string.
Funny, when I was a kid I used to compete with 330 - 340 g (unstrung and head heavy) racket and I had absolutely no issue with it. Then (in 90s) heavy rackets were standard. And these 330 g heavy rackets were considered to be light. Think of it. Nowadays we are overthinking everything too much. We have killer and very light rackets compared to what we had in 90s and we are looking for issues where there are really no issues.
How is Extreme MP L comparing with Speed team (285gr , 25 constant beam) ?
Probably one of your best reviews ever. Auxetic made speed so solid. Great solid connected feel with filtering vibrations. I am very glad that it did it’s magic even on lighter sticks like mp lite. Coupled with a heavier string like lynx tour it would be an awesome easy to use stick for tournaments. I am only curious if it works for 1HB.
Thanks! It works really well for the 1hb in my opinion. I was very impressed with the stability despite the low static weight.
@@Tennisnerd yeah it may be the auxetic. I was wondering all these years when you will like a lighter stick. I use blade 98s 2015. It’s super solid despite low static weight. What i enjoyed with auxetic speed was how more solid and fulfilment ball contact was….. previous speed since ig youtek were ALL hollow and auxetic brought life back to them. It kinda reminded the solid feel of blade v5. I even sent an email to head and asked them why they don’t release an 98 inch of speed mp…… i mean they have all these lines and they don’t have a single 98 inch power frame like strike, SX tour or pure aero vs. Radical mp and extreme tour are no way powerful frames…… I am glad it worked fine on your 1HB cause 100 sticks don’t give me the needed wrist freedom for quick actions or the joy on 1HB take back of a slimmer throat mold. These days i am only interested on racquet lines like strike, aero, extreme and v core. Lines that give you extra spin and power….. it’s all about winning on recreational tennis tournaments my man…. no more favours on my opponents with players racquets if you know what i mean….. but i always search for that easy to play stick that also offers solid ball contact….. and that’s why i still use blade 98s v5……
Great review! I used to look for these types of rackets, maybe in the 280/290g because they are so much easier to take to the court and also because with lead tape you can actually adapt the racket to your game everytime you feel something's wrong
Thanks! Yes, for many players that is a good idea.
Jonas, I don’t know how you play test all these racquets and still play solid tennis. It would confuse me a lot. Great video.
Thanks! It does confuse me a LOT too. I don't recommend all this switching because it screws up your timing etc. When I play with the same racquet, I play a lot better overall.
@@Tennisnerd I’ve reviewed a few racquets on my channel and my game is still recovering. 😂. I’ve always wondered if I could play well against big hitters with a light racquet. The heavier frames just give me more confidence as I know I get tight and my swing speed slows down.
It's the pilot, not the plane
to be honest it's not that hard
Kudos to Head for making racquets for that segment. And solid perspectives as always.
Thanks
I like that the tour was light so I could customize. But stock form too light
So true. All because of you jonas 😜. I fancied myself as an attacking flat hitter like you , so i went and bought yonex vcore pro 18x20 320g (also because it was low stifness). Recently i switch to a pure drive and while i dont have the pinpoint precision as before , i am ripping deep shots consistently even when out of position. Such an enjoyable racket , hope i dont get any arm pain
Hehe, many players, often including myself, use racquets that can be quite punishing in the long run. If you get arm pain with the PD, there are more comfortable options out there.
Interesting as I'm actually going the opposite direction to a heavier racquet. I've been playtesting for a bit and have actually found a heavier racquet seems to fit how I play better and is also easier on my elbow than the lighter babolat aero I was playing with.
It's a personal thing so that is fine too.
babolat gives elbow problems.. it wasn't the weight it was the brand lol...
@@rusty935 except I've went up on weight playtesting with several different brands with no issues. Try lighter of those as well and I have issues immediately.
@@tallcatshortdog well yeah more weight is usually better for the pain but Babolat in general gives elbow issues
@@rusty935 yeah, that was my point that heavier can be better for arm pain this video was specifically about going lighter for arm pain.
If I want to convert my Extreme MP Light to Extreme MP, which part of the racquet shall I add the weights on, please advise🙂
It's difficult to say. You need some in the handle and some at 12 o'clock.
@@Tennisnerd Thank you😘
I like my pure aero 285gr better than the blade v8 with 305gr. The aero more power more spin and lot more enjoyable
I have been playing with an RF97 even through the struggle and frustration, then i pick up any racket and it automatically feels soooo light.
This is true 😂
I don't understand why more people don't start with a lighter racket, and then customize it to spec with silicone and lead. It seems like that's one of the primary advantages to ligher prostock hairpins - the ability to polarize the weight distribution, add some damping with silicone in the handle, get the SW just right at the right static weight. What am I missing? Why isn't this the standard for gear nerds?
Sir, I enjoy the detail associated with your work. I noticed a sign with the Fischer logo. In the 90's they made some nice mid and mid-plus racquets. I believe Yevgeny Kafelnikov used one. If I'm not mistaken, it was an Austrian based company. I play tested one and regret not buying 10. Do you know anything about their racquet line, if they still make any at all? Thanks so much.
I'm not Jonas, but so you know, all Fischer molds were bought by Pacific at some point in time.
You can get a Pacific racquet right now, but won't get that desirable logo though.
@@temafomenko Thank you, Artem. That's good to know. I've never heard of Pacific. I have some work to do. Again, thank you.
So I have started to look around. And currently I play the Wilson burn v4 in both the spin and the 100. I like the feel but an nothing now that I am lacking a lot of power. Would this racquet be something to consider? I play a heavy back hand slice but also hit a two handed with top spin. Service wise, I am a very big slice serve player.
Hi Jonas, like always, thanks for the content! I am missing in your videos the changes that you wanted to implement after your training sessions in Spain, particularly on the backhand! ;)
Thanks. Yeah, technical changes take time to implement. I need some more work on the backhand. The forehand is getting better.
As a former Fischer Vacuum user I was surprised to see a Fischer add behind you on the clay court. Are they still in business in Europe? Greetings
Nah, this is just an old banner. Fischer was bought by Pacific.
@@Tennisnerd for a second I wanted to believe in miracles
I’m switching from an wilson ultra 100 v3 because it gives me to much power with so little stability and control. Do you think that the extreme mp is similar to the ultra? If so! Should I instead ago for the speed mp? I want spin and power but I want control as well.
Does the spin potential differ a lot between speed mp and extreme mp?
My 2c would be to try speed MP. It's a great all-around racket. Extreme MP might work as well, but I'd stick to speed.
Obviously, playtest if you can!
@@temafomenko I demoed the extreme mp graphene 360 (not the plus version) and I didn’t like it. But I have never tried the newer extremes and never had the chance to
Great opening to the video! You should always give a nice minute or so of every angle of the racquet for the intro.
Thanks and might do that
Great information Great video 🙏
Thanks Nathan!
Hey ! I hope you are doing well ! Question, Is there any difference between a basic damp like wilson sells and the one on your racket, with the empty middle ? (it is a luxilon right ?)
Thanks for a great review, Jonas! looking for a lite racket for my gf. Not sure between MP Lite and TEAM. She's still a beginner with small arms.
Go Team, it's great.
@@Tennisnerd Thank you for your reply!
im a 3.0 - maximum 3.5 player
playing for like 1,5 years
im playing maximum 1x per week
and i dont train with trainer, only play with a friend
i took the extreme MP
was this the wrong choice? should i have taken a lighter one?
Hey jonas - any chance you could do a video on madison keys’ set up? I can see at Cincy she doesn’t have a full string bed (missing crosses at top and bottom). What does that achieve ? Any other players who do this?
your backhand is looking better than before
We need to talk about this colorscheme. Is this possibly the ugliest paint job on any racquet made so far? Great review as always! I just honestly don't think I could see myself buy something this ugly looking, even if you put your approval on it.
it prob goes head to head with the vcore 95 ugly moron /orange/light blue paintjob there is out there. If the guy who designed it wasnt colourblind then tennis balls arent yellow either.
personally I kinda like the new colour scheme, but thats my opinion
@@ianyou6920 I'm amazed that someone likes this, but everyone has their own taste!
I like the cosmetic. It has definitely grown on me
Yeah I don’t mind the cosmetic either. Looks better in person too.
Jonas, I am going to try the auxetic Extreme Team. Would this hybrid work: VS gut 16 mains 55 lbs, RPM Blast 17 crosses 52???? Thanks, John
Yes, sounds good
Hello! have you got the Stifness of the Extreme MP L ? please ? thank you!
Hi Valeria, it should be the same as the Team, 61 RA strung.
@@Tennisnerd thank you! you have been so kind ! :) :)
Hej Jonas, been thinking for few weeks now... Is Ćorić playing with new ultra? Do you have any info? 🤔
In my latest video :)
@@Tennisnerd yep, saw it 2 hours later. 🤦♂️Doh!
Thanks! How do these compare to the Boom?
The Boom is a bit more lively in the string bed.
@@Tennisnerd Thanks!
differences with v core 100 ? thanks !
Even the tour version is too light. It’s too late for serving and it’s too late for groundstrokes. It has good feel of the net. That’s all not for me
You can get the new extreme as the pro version in italy
Hi Jonas! Are you hitting FH with an eastern grip?
Hey Andras, I use a grip in between Eastern and SW
Thanks Jonas. I am using something similar. I guess I am a bit old fashioned, I am getting 50 in September, and when I started to play tennis in the 80s it was a totally different school. I never really managed to adpat the heavy topspin and SW grip in my game. I am on racket journey currently. In the past years I tested many different rackets (TFight 305 XTC & RS, TFlash, Ezone 100, K7 Cyan), and now it looks that Vcore 95 2021 (with Poly Tour Fire 1.20 22-21 kg) really fits my style, it looks to be very good both on topspin shots and on flatter shots as well. I am the kind of guy who enjoys the muted feel. So my journey might have ended.
Jonas, would you say that all of the Team rackets out there are essentially the same?
Nah, but in the same category of racquets
Hello super video, do you prefer Head Extreme Mp Lite (285gr) o Tecnifibre Tf-x1 (285 gr ) in termins of control and comfort, power I think will be similar . Your answer is very important for me, thanks
I prefer the MP Lite. Softer on the arm, good feel, nice racquet!
"CPI 700" sounds like the latest inflation report
I think racquets are being built and marketed all wrong. The average 3.0 all the way to 4.5 player are just fine with racquets under 300 g unstrung.
However based on product availability and marketing, we’re lead to believe 300g is the starting point for any serious player. It’s simply not true.
My strokes look a lot more like Kyrgios than they do Fed, Djoker, Stan, etc.
If he can use a 300-315g racquet unstrung then so can I.
Us amateur players need as absolutely much racquet head speed as humanly possible. We don’t need more stability at sub 5.0 tennis.
heavy racket crap is a falacy. All pros play with heavier frames and high swingweight and that's how they generate power and spin. If you are 4.5+ level player and have decent technique going for greater weight will only help your game. One should maximize the swingweight for your level of game.
Also new rackets are just branding exercise, racket tech hasn't changed much infact some of the older frames were much better. Case in point the original Pro Drive was a perfect racket and Babolat has made it worse through the years. Rest is just paintjob changes, we all know none of the pros play with these frames anyway. TN is right on the fact find a custom frame that suits your game style though.
In 90s when I was a kid I competed with 330-340 g (unstrung) racket and it was completely normal back then. Everyone actually said these were very light rackets compared what rackets had been few years before.
Bring the pain, stir the pot, drop the truth on them.
Amen