43 years ago I was a member of a Christian church, and being based on the Bible I had no doubt that it was the true church or at least that is what I believed at that time, and when I met the missionaries of the Church of Jesus Christ, and they wanted to convert me to their church, I wanted to convert them into my church, and we exchanged talks, I taught them about my church and they taught me about their church. And when I was praying to God for them to change their hearts, my prayer was: Open their eyes because they don't see, open their ears because they don't listen, open their hearts so that they can penetrate the true teachings that are based on your Bible, your word. But as time passed, I kept praying and God had mercy on me and heard my prayer and changed my heart. My eyes were opened. My ears were opened and my heart, and I knew that those teachings that were based on the interpretation of men were not true, and that the Church of Jesus Christ was the true church on earth. I can listen to people like Pastor Jeff, and I can see the difference between light and darkness, it is very obvious, when a person is in the light, darkness is darkness, there is no fear because the testimony of the Holy Spirit is the most important thing .
Carmen brown thank you for sharing your testimony . That was a great testimony . We can see that some like to remain in darkness . So God lets them . Agency . Since all these different religions will still remain and be in the millennium .
@@KLECKFILESdotCOM4TrueJesusou are mistaken. The Bible that we all know and what we have available has been originally translated from Masoretic Text which has been corrupted from the Septuagint which was at the time of Jesus was the scripture that is available and currently being used. Bible right now has been proven to be corrupted by many Scholars. Check Septuagint vs Masoretic Text difference anywhere online. You will find out. I'm sorry that you left LDS butif you really seek the truth not just listen to people that try to discourage LDS members, you will get the answers. Seek and you shall find
Dear @@KLECKFILESdotCOM4TrueJesus . We have the truth. Am sorry the mists of darkness block your sight, but you are invited to find the most brilliant light. HOSANNAH!
I love that Pastor Jeff gives the Church free publicity and reads the Book of Mormon publicly online! That in itself is a reason to love and thank him. Many will have their ears and hearts pricked because of the light being shown. The Lord works in mysterious ways. No unhallowed hand can stop His work.
13:08 - That's why so many appreciate your videos and are cautious of the "well-produced" highly planned and edited videos of Pastor Jeff. You are real, raw and speak from your heart - and for a long period of time with no editing - with no script...and we can feel the difference. There's no angle, no agenda... just a genuine bearing your soul, story and testimony. It's very much appreciated!!
One thing that I appreciate about Latter-day Saints is that they strive toward (and often achieve) excellence. That's to say, likewise with Pastor Jeff, well-thought-out excellence in production quality needn't be caricatured as possessing some darkened, nefarious underbelly. Rather, excellence and goodness of heart/motivation can co-exist and needn't be mutually exclusive.
@@lukehanson_ not really . They write from the Holy Ghost . They are not given assigned subjects . Yet they all have different talks . I’m sure they do go over them .
My favorite thing that you said is that if we have 30 min to listen to Jeff then we should be putting at least that much time into listening to our 12 apostles. That’s a GREAT REMINDER! There are a lot of wolves in sheep’s clothing out there and most people think that because someone looks or acts nice, that they are harmless. That’s why a lot of people are being led away in the last days (and I don’t mean by Pastor Jeff) I think more of us need to hear your perspective. No matter what you say on here people will “hear” it wrong. You do not need to make any apologies. Your message was kind. I think most of us heard what you were trying to say. Thank you for seeing what others with less experience might not see! You are wonderful!
I remember all the controversy with the Chosen and working with the LDS. They used the Churches sets and some of our talent also and it gave Dallas A lot of grief!. I believe the Church is coming out of obscurity and more people want to understand what we Really believe. Its time,for the Gospel of Jesus Christ to come out in the open and hasten the gathering! I think P Jeff, and Dallas, and Greg and you,David, are helping to lift the fog.
Recently watching things unfold with Derral Eves and Dallas Jenkins has been a massive breakthrough for our church’s ongoing interfaith and peacekeeping efforts. Our prophet is so inspired in this. The decision for him to allow The Chosen to film an entire season on our church’s property made me so happy. Having you be a part of this story now is so beautiful. I love having a front row seat for the miracles that are happening here! Thank you for helping us see them. ❤
David Alexander you truly Lehi to your Evenchereco family 👪, you partake the fruit of the Gospel, sweet and wanted your Evenchereco and all to come partake as well, love and prayers brother ❤️ 🙏 💙
Pastor Jeff''s effort to understand The LDS Restored Gospel is highly commendable. LDS Members arent adversly influenced by people who dont agree with us with a smile than we are those who yell at us. The truth is, if both sides listen to each other with the intent to understand one another they are the ones who will end up being converted to LDS additional Gosple knowledge.
When i first began listening to pastor jeff i did consider him a possible wolf in sheeps clothing myself but time can b a progressive teacher if we are wanting to learn.
Your videos long or short they're all wonderful, keep loving ❤️, share and invite Elder Alexander, you are one of the Best Servent of the Lord, Jesus Christ, keep shining brother
David, I think it is so cool what you are doing with your testimony on UA-cam. Don’t underestimate the potential of your reach. Latter Day Saints need to hear your story as much as all Christians. It is amazing to me that the LDS producer reached out to you regarding Dallas Jenkins and the Chosen. The Chosen has touched my heart significantly in how it has brought the New Testament to life. It is amazing that important parts of it have been filmed at the LDS set in Utah and that Dallas has (carefully) said that he knows that we believe in the same Jesus. All of this is building bridges of understanding. In some way I feel that I understand Evangelicals more through the Chosen. Regarding Pastor Jeff, he seems to be sincere, and I’ll be interested to see how it goes. The simple truth is that we all have to remain grounded in our testimony of Jesus and his work anciently and modernly by the power of the Holy Ghost. Nobody is exempt. As President Nelson said, seek to understand and not to judge, but keep that conviction of the Latter Day work as we venture out in the world and on the net. Thank You for what you are doing. Brian
Thank you so so much for this so interesting and uplifting video. You could not articulate it better than what you said: Im not watching Hello Saints because it does not build my testimony. This is not a slam to Paster Jeff. This is simply a measuring stick that we can use for all our pursuits. Love you David and I totally get what you are putting out there. I am so happy that you are a fellow Saint!!!
My family and I have enjoyed watching wonderful Paster Jeff's journey, the Chosen, and other UA-camrs doing similar things! We have especially enjoyed your channel! We love watching Conference like it's Christmas morning and I can truly see the gospel filling the earth like a flood as the Lord has promised before His coming ❤ There's nothing more exciting to see unfold or a time more significant to live in than to watch the Lord doing His work in these last days😊
Wonderful Paster Jeff’s journey ?? Yes it is wonderful how paster Jeff actually helps clear up truths about our teachings . Rather he knows or not it makes others with pure hearts and clean hands kind what they hear about the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints . So thank you paster Jeff for your niceness as it seems to be back firing on you . Showing all the truths we actually have . Especially the temple visit . His wife liked it very much . Good job paster Jeff for showing all our wonderful truths . Rather he believes of not . He is exposing light and truth . He may be doing More good then he realizes . When Jeff hears this gospel taught in the millennium he may just grasp it then for all he knows about truths right now. I’m still for America as it is the promised land for Ephriam . Yes it is . And it is where all was started . Garden of Eden . Adam and Eve and all up to Noah . Far west was where Cain killed Able .Joseph of Egypt posterity is for America in his blessing that Joseph is a fruitful bough whose branches branch over the wall To a land a far off . Ephraim inheritance is America a long with New Jerusalem and the city of Enoch . It all started in America then the flood came . America is still the promise land . One thing that is just way too hard to watch is him criticizing the book of Mormon .after a The sacrifices to bring the book of Mormon to us . Gregg Matson is hard to take as I don’t watch him any more simply because he is starting to teach some wrong things himself . I worry for him .
David, you are way kinder than my husband in speaking about Paster Jeff. I am neutral in my opinion about him. My husband took a look at Paster Jeff and told me he encountered many of the same types on his mission. Their method is called “pace and lead”. He said he already knew what he is up to. It’s his experience and reality. No matter what, I know as members of the church, we are willing to show kindness to 😢g of our own testimony.
I give all my attention to our Prophet and Apostles mighty men of God, thanks David for reminding us where our focus should be when choosing who we watch on utube. I find the utube shorts of our Prophet and Apostles a-perfect listen everyday to go hand in hand with our daily scriptures study to keep us solid and protected on the covenant path. Thanks David pastor Jeff gets not a second of my time
I love Pastor Jeff. I watched his reading of 1st and 2nd Nephi. He opened my eyes to the New Testament feel of the two books. Having grown up in the church this was a new way of looking at the BOM. I had many questions. If I hadn’t run across Jacob Hansen’s explanation about the New Testament feel I don’t know if my questions would have been answered. This strengthened my testimony of Joseph Smith. However, I could see how it could have undermined my faith. I think we need to make sure we always take his perspective in balance with the truths we know.
I first came across you when you were on the Cwic show. I love all of Greg’s videos. I also would watch Hello Saints. I’ve enjoyed that as well but, you are correct; it doesn’t strengthen my testimony. I’m grateful you pointed that out. We live in perilous times. It’s important to be picky on how we spend our time. I watched your earlier video on Hello Saints. I thought it was clear. Pastor Jeff doesn’t apologize for his opinion, you shouldn’t either. It’s ok to feel differently. Love your videos. Your excitement makes me happy. As a life long member I sometimes forget to be excited about my blessings. You remind me to be excited and share that excitement with others.
Thank you for praying at the end of your videos. This one was very meaningful to me. You are an incredible person and tool in our Heavenly Fathers hands to help build testimony among his faithful children. I completely agree with what you’ve communicated here, peacemakers needed, opening windows in the accusatory fog to allow hundreds of millions to see the light of the restored gospel…you are doing our Fathers work. God bless you brother.
Thank you David for your clarification! TLD[W]: Pastor Jeff is not a wolf in sheep's clothing. He is serving God in bringing down walls of contention (along with others). We should heed President's Nelson's call for being peacemakers and exercise charity for all people, which includes hoping and believing the best of others. David isn't saying we should watch his videos, but that we should pray for him and others, especially those bringing down walls of contention, and love them all the same as we make decisions that best suite our needs. For Evangelicals that are dissatisfied, Jeff may be building on-ramps for them to see the light of the restoration.
We the members of the church of Jesus Christ we have the gift of the Holy Ghost,and we have the personal revelation, and when you see the light, the transparency of the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost is teaching in your mind, and in your heart every day of your life Listen to Pastor Jeff make me stronger in my own testimony of the true church of Jesus Christ but no doubt I’m stronger every day that I see the darkness and I am in the light no afraid at all I see because I’m stronger to see and recognize the true teachings of God are powerful.🌟
No need to apologize for speaking things as they are. Members of the church who have the gift of discernment actually already feel the same way as you do. You just happened to put it out there on your own channel. You are not telling us anything foreign or contrary to what we already know. No one call others evil, we just do need to exercise vigilance in protecting our testimony.
You are a really good man, brother Alexander. Don’t worry about the things that you shared in your first video about Pastor Jeff. Many of those things needed to be said and heard. Your message to be a peacemaker in this video is very good and right. But people do need to be cautious and guard their testimony. I have no doubt that Pastor Jeff is a really good man and loves the Lord but he is also a critic of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints. That can be a danger if listeners aren’t solid in their testimony of the truthfulness of Christ gospel. Hopefully with sincere exploration Pastor Jeff will receive a witness of the truth. Thank you for always sharing your heart.
I agree with your comment. I've seen too many, who have fragile testimonies, be led carefully away - even in my own family. I have a sincere question: I see so many podcasts/videos about 'Mormon or LDS (fill in the blank)' on UA-cam these days. How do we know which ones are subtly (or not so subtly) seeking to lead members out of the Church, or prevent people from joining? Has any faithful Church member come up with a 'list' categorizing the different podcasts out there? The only ones I watch are 'David Alexander', 'CWIC' with Greg Matsen, 'Come Back Podcast' with Ashly Stone, and 'Watcher Palmer' with former mission president, Scott Palmer. All these are wonderful. I'd like to watch others, but want to know which to avoid.
@@capybara39419 I listen to and enjoy each of those podcasts as well. Another good one is “Thoughtful Faith”(Jacob Hanson). There’s a couple others that I follow sometimes, but I think that the greatest way to grow our faith and feel the spirit of the Lord is to make more substantial time for listening to/reading the Scriptures. That’s where we will gain the greatest insights and treasures. And of course, Prophet/conference talks/solid leaders of the church. Sometimes too much information overload from other sources can drown out personal revelation. God bless you on your spiritual journey.
The work of God gets done in many ways, and He reserves the right to use His friends, enemies, and neutrals to do it. God has a track record of turning His biggest haters into His biggest supporters. All things work for the good of those who love God and are called by Him for His purposes. Whether for good or for evil intentions (and only God can judge the intents of the heart), God will work it out for His glory. There are no other worldly organizations, religious or otherwise, that barely begin to compare to the length, depth, breadth, destiny, authority and amplitude of Jesus Christ's restored Church. I'm glad that PJ is checking the Church out and opening the discussion, despite the heat he may be taking from his own side of the aisle. I'm pleased that he's showing other evangelicals that, while our doctrines differ, we're not that evil cult they've been ranting on about for so long.
Amen! It's not just about us...it's also about the 10 of millions of dissatisfied Evangelicals....who are having a bit of the chance to see...from a distance but still see a bit of the light of the Restored Church. That is a VERY big deal.
@@davidmalvinalexander I'm excited to see the miracles He's about to do. So many lost sheep and through you and others, He's calling to them in their own evangelical language. He loves us all and He won't stop until His work is done. We just have to make sure that there's a safe and welcoming place for them to come to, hence the divine mandate to be peacemakers!
I have watched Pastor Jeff and thoughts have came to mind what is his purpose in doing this. He has a great heart. I was like him for a long time. Later I have a dream about who are the children of light. I learned that they are humble and rather than seek first without asking father you will be deceived. Always humble yourself first and ask God then seek and gather shows you the truth. I hear many times that you have thought something and then stopped and prayed about it even if it just didn’t seem right. Or could not be right or true. I pray that Pastor Jeff does do this. Stop pray and ask father rather than not questioning some things he has been taught, for example he spoke of who created the world. Pray and ask father then reread 1st John. I read this several Times and I was wrong every time until the missionaries asked me If I prayed first and asked father. Thank goodness I took this challenge and I took time to sincerely ask and read it again. It was amazing what father reveals to me. Pray first. Seek and we will see the answers.
thank you, David .. I really enjoyed this video. I understood what you meant in the last video, so I’m sure most people did. I knew that you knew that members of the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints, believe in the same Jesus as the evangelist Christians. And I need to thank you because I listened to several conference talks today and will continue to do that every day. So grateful you joined the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints. You are truly a disciple of Christ.! just really love your enthusiasm and excitement in joining the church and expressing your testimony to the world!
Thank you David. Well said and well done. Pastor Jeff recently did a video on his tour of Saratoga Springs New temple after an invitation from another LDS friend. I know he struggles with some of LDS concepts but I felt he was sincere and presented those struggles fairly. He and his wife are good people and will continue to explore LDS doctrine. I feel we are brothers in Christ with Pastor Jeff. And I too won't be watching him consistently. Love you brother David for the bridges you are building.
Pastor Jeff hates temples . Has no use for them . He feels nothing . Seems his wife did . He can stay out of our temples. I got tired of the sound of his voice . Why do you not think he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing ? I’m not expecting him to convert . But he says he wants us to convert . I wish he really just wanted to build bridges . Yes perhaps he could do more good then bad and not realize it . God can us him to bring our truths to light .
The restoration of the gospel is so important, and losing your testimony of that is so perilous, especially once you’ve made covenants with the Lord, that your cautions are important! Don’t worry about speaking your heart on the risks.
Members of The Church are just fascinated that Pastor Jeff is interested in us. That's so unusual for protestants. Bro David you're nice enough for a baby boomer. (Am one too.) Thanks for being real. Don't worry too much. You have your own genre of quality.
David, stay the course. Don’t let this or anything else move you off-center of the Highway to Heaven. I was Pentecostal once. We sang that song. I bet you know it. My grandson asked me, Pa, is there such a highway. Keep the faith!
Thank you Brother Alexander for your enthusiasm in the restoration, the book of Mormon, the Latter-day scriptures, living Apostles and prophets. Your story is a miracle and is an inspiration. We as Latter-day saints have always had those who act as friends and turn out to be ravenous wolves so sometimes we can be a bit cautious and I guess rightfully so. I have watched so of Pastor Jeff's presentations and I honestly hope he can continue his quest because I see him being guided by the hand of God to find eternal truth. Now, if he chooses to accept it or reject it, I judge not (I have my own problems in life to deal with). I do wish him the best and I can hope for his sincerity. I do like that he is actually reading and studying the Book of Mormon so I trust that God can do missionary work through its pages. Thank you for your testimony and enthusiasm, it is very refreshing to me, a member since 1973 so one can never know who they are helping out here. I do pray that the Holy Ghost will begin to bear down in pure testimony and truth upon this world as I know so many in my little corner of the vineyard who need that little push in the right direction. God bless you!!
I commented on the last video about pastor Jeff. Although my thoughts have not changed about his intentions, I do recognize that engaging in negative comments about another does push away the spirit. David, I know you are just being protective of your fellow brothers and sisters but unfortunately in this day and age with the internet things can get misconstrued and turn nasty rather quickly. Stay focused on your testimony and the story of others and you will be a light unto the world.
I am not LDS and agree mostly, if not fully, with Pastor Jeff as a Messianic Jew. I sincerely appreciate your video as it clarifies a lot. In a time of deconstruction happening a lot among Evangelicals, Messianic Jews, Catholics, Orthodox, and Latter Day Saints, building interfaith bridges is needed now more than ever. 👍
Love,praying and Crying with you, my brother, David Alexander we all in as you said, Love God first and to all others as we love ourselves, love your pure heart David, All wonderful return Praises unto the Savior, Jesus Christ the Lord ❤and 🙏
I fully agree with what you said here. I love Pastor Jeff and his approach to our church and gospel. He is truly building bridges. There is someone else out there also building bridges from Evangelicals to Latter-Day Saints and that is Steven Pynakker from Mormon Book Reviews. He interviews all voices of the restoration and has read all sorts of LDS, ex-LDS and scholarly books pertaining to the church. He is very respectful and is a big fan of all sides of The Restoration. I think you should reach out for an interview!
For me, your video was such a great reminder that I need to put Christ and my relation with HIM above all else. The best reminder you made was that I should be spending more time listening to the living apostles than I do wasting time on UA-cam. And honestly, that's something I'm very very guilty of. Keep being the beacon of light and truth that you are David, we appreciate your faith and your example greatly.
You spoke the truth - there are many exit ramps off the covenant path. You spoke the truth that instead of listening to doctrines that can possibly take us on the off ramp of the covenant path, that we should instead be feasting on the words of the scriptures and listening to our beloved prophet and apostles (like Safety for the Soul by Jeffrey R Holland - ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥whoop whoop)!! Br Alexander, you said what needed to be said in a kind, and respectful but truthful way about Pastor Jeff. Everything you said was true!!! I know that he is a nice man and loves God, but you are absolutely right. Time is the currency that we cannot get back, so I will choose instead to spend my time learning, growing, and serving in the Church. Thank you Br Alexander for sharing your pure joy in finding the true gospel. Your testimony and knowledge is joyous to behold.
I have listened to Hello Saints often. I served as a sister missionary in Virginia in the '80s. That area was considered the Bible belt. I have vivid memories of getting screamed at and spit at while out looking for people to teach. It seemed like there was fear/hate in their eyes. There were few opportunities to explain that we believed in the same Jesus. It's hard to begin sharing the good news of the restored gospel without first establishing a starting place, some common ground. Even to build a bridge you have to be in alignment on the opposite sides of the bank. Pastor Jeff was a refreshing opportunity to learn why someone could be so fearful of a shy 21 yr. old girl from Idaho with Jesus Christ's name pinned to her dress. But you, even having dug into the messy places, embrace the church with apostles and prophets, led by Jesus Christ. And you are doing it right out loud. And the Holy Spirit testifies of truth. We are blessed. We can discern what voices to listen to. It's more than refreshing, it's edifying.
I started my military career back in the Spring of 1980 in Ft. Eustis, Virginia and we had to go all the way to Richmond for church meetings. To my surprised, when I went there again in 1987(my 3rd time) there was a Stake Building in Newport News. It was very impressive!!!
For me, I feel that Pastor Jeff is “bridge building.” As a Latter-day Saint, I believe he is popular because we are so used to being bashed in the head all of the time with our beliefs, that we are relieved and joyful to find someone who doesn’t think we are growing horns on our head. We love our faith. But we also really believe that Pastor Jeff is a child of God just like we are, and God will gather Him in, in His own time. In the meantime, Pastor Jeff is doing many good works, and helping many to Christ. Latter-day Saints really do need to understand where our Evangelical friends are coming from, so we can engage them properly in preparing the world for the Savior’s return. Sometimes we use the same words to mean different things, and sometimes we use different words to mean the same things. It is helpful to know our differences and similarities. I remind myself that God could, if He wanted to, reveal the truth to the whole world that we have Christs gospel. But He doesn’t. For some reason, He let’s us work it out with each other, and uses all of us for His purposes, if we are willing. ❤
Thanks for this follow up video… I do believe we need bridges and relationships that connect all those that love Christ. ❤ We are all allies in bringing people to the loving embrace of their Savior
Hi David, I'm one of the Happy People!! I'm a convert to the Church since 1968 when I was 19 years old. Previous to my conversion, I was a member of the Assembly of God Church. I doubt that I was an example of a devout member because I really didn't know that being a Mormon as we referred to them then was frowned upon. My sister's objection was the only one that I encountered back then. All I really remember is telling the missionaries is I didn't need to be baptized again as I had previously been baptized in my other Church. LOL Little did I know then compared to what I now know. My Faith was always in my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I've loved my Lord and Savior for as long as I can remember. His Spirit has been my guide throughout my life and I really do think that I have led a very lovely life because of His guidance. Enough about me. I'm very much attracted to your Testimony and I've even shared this with my family and friends. I love your passion for your new found Faith. The reason I felt compelled to comment on this video message is I too have fallen under the spell of Pastor Jeff. I've truly enjoyed most of the videos of his due to his charming personality. However, I have to disagree with you about why I continue to watch. I can't believe that he is completely satisfied with being in a Church that is of another Faith. How can he be this close to investigating the Lord's true Church and it have no effect on Him? How can someone read the Book of Mormon and not feel the Lord's Spirit speaking to his heart and mind? So, I don't think that Pastor Jeff is going to be content in his current Faith after seeing the Blessings of the Lord for members of His true Church. The fog that you speak about is the only way that Satan can obstruct the truth and I admit that it is extremely difficult to penetrate. However the Lord's Holy Spirit can and does speak the truth to anyone who is willing to listen. I'm sure that Pastor Jeff is going to have to face the truth sooner or later. I pray that it's sooner and this is why I keep watching. I'm going to say that ultimately the Spirit is going to speak to him in a way that is undeniable and that the only reason he would not choose the Lord's true Church is because he would have to switch careers. LOL I don't know if this would stop him but I haven't actually heard him mention that our Church has no paid ministry. I'm sure that he's aware of this though. I have many friends who are members not of our Faith. The thing that keeps me completely anchored to our Faith is the Book of Mormon. I read the Book of Mormon each day and remember to say my prayers and this keeps me totally anchored to the Lord Jesus Christ and His Gospel. I'm so grateful for our Church Leadership, especially our Prophet. I love all of my family and friends in and out of the Church. But mostly I love the happiness I enjoy from all of the Blessings that our Heavenly Father continues to Bless me with. Many Blessings for you as you continue your journey through this process of sharing your Testimony. And, of course, I will continue to watch and listen to your UA-cam videos as well. I'm loving your passion for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. May God Bless you always, dear friend. Your Sister in the Gospel, Betty Reynolds May 7th, 2023 P. S. Please use some old fashion Vicks Vaporub on your chest to help with your cold. It really works for coughing and congestion. Plus you might enjoy Barbara O'Neill's video about Natural Remedies. She's a fellow Australian that I totally agree with for righteous health issues and treatments. ❤❤❤❤
You are a good man Bro. Alexander. Your heart is in the right place. We should love those of other Christian faiths. They are trying their best to live the Christian faith based on what they know.
I think making comments and allusions about Pastor Jeff and wolf in sheep's clothing is opening a bit of contention. Pastor Jeff has been VERY CLEAR that he's not converting, and he compares/contrasts our beliefs and scriptures with evangelical aspects. We can respect differences, and I personally feel that he's opening up aspects of our church to otherwise unreachable evangelicals who are closed off by comments and sentiments by people who don't know anything about the gospel or practices. Pastor Jeff is sincere in his efforts, and he's honest with us about this. It doesn't deserve a wolf in sheep's clothing metaphor. I hope you'll keep your enthusiasm and your testimony, and respect the differences of one another. We are all on unique paths towards Heavenly Father, and agency being a great gift from Him, means we all are deserving of love and respect. It was a beautiful and Jesus loving and obedient baptist woman who taught this LDS man this concept in a simple drawing.
Am LDS from Uganda what i know about pastor Jeff is that he is sacrificing his time and talents to know about the kingdom of God the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints and reaveled truth, pastor Jeff is also learning new things about the church of Jesus Christ he is also opening the eyes of the world to see the beauty of the restoration of the gospel new doctrine that Jesus Christ has reaveled in his church and also historical sites of the church.he is an example to other religious leaders and faith we should not think inside the box but out side box.i remember when Jesus Christ introduced new teaching to the phrases and jews they were gainst him because they hearing new thing they were blinded and not opening their heart to learn new reaveled truth Jesus Christ taught them.its the sam to Day the world is un comfortable about the new doctrine which heavenly father has revealed its beyond their understanding .but to us latter day saints are simple teaching even the child can understand and rejoice,thanks David Alexander may the lord bless you keep the faith one day we shall enjoy the fruits of our labours when the savior comes again to reign for a thousand years.
I'm really glad to have found this video from you! I saw your last video and enjoyed it very much. Sorry to hear you've not been well! Hope you continue to feel better! Keep up the encouraging messages. You are appreciated!
I think for me it’s based on curiosity. I didn’t serve a mission and have never felt like I was part of a conversion. There’s an element of suspense in where this can go. And fascination in reading his interactions and responses. I have pretty much watched them all. I also go to the temple multiple times a week and study come follow me. And do my ministering. I especially enjoy when he’s reading BOM. I wonder to myself if he thinks about if Joseph Smith wrote from the top of his head. He said once about it taking 2 years or something. I think it’s not even 2 months if you compact the time it took consecutive. I wonder if he knows Joseph Smith was a laborer and had about a 3rd grade education. There’s no way he did this without divine help and guidance. Maybe he will think about that in the future. Maybe it keeps him up at night thinking. But it’s his path and it’s no one’s choice but his. And maybe his wife has some input (she should). I want him with us because he’s converted true and not because he’s getting lots of attention. I hope. For him and any others investigating the church.
There will probably be a thousand or more comments so I’ll summarize my experience with Pastor Jeff in bullet points. - Very happy to see an Evangelical Christian be respectful to us and our faith which feels rare. - Excited to see him really try to understand our perspective and actually read the entire Book of Mormon. - Disappointed but not surprised that he reads the Book of Mormon in such a sterile way not seeming to allow the overwhelming testimony of the the Savior Jesus Christ that it witnesses to penetrate his heart or to give the Book of Mormon the credit for being an actual source of truth for the rest of Christianity. - Intrigued and impressed when he took the time to go through a come follow me lesson. - Stopped listening to his come follow me lesson after about a half hour because it lacked the spiritual power that I’m used to experiencing in those lessons. - I am happy that Jeff is doing what he is doing and believe that he is a sincere believer in Jesus Christ. - Hopeful that some day the spirit will penetrate his heart and a whole world can be opened up to him that is available through Priesthood Authority. - Will check in here and their on his channel to see how he is doing. - I will continue to listen to the prophets and apostles messages daily and read the scriptures as my guiding source and will not allow any UA-cam influencer to replace them.
BTW David, keep up the great work. I absolutely love hearing your perspective especially on topics that some members have struggled with over the years. I consider myself to be very strong in my gospel foundation but yet I have learned much from you. So glad you found the faith!!!
I myself started from similar experience, started from LMS Christian ✝️ church converted unto the Savior and His Church, The Church of Jesus Christ of latter day Saints, we are imperfect people who have serch all truths with the Lord's help, we will find, we just humble ourselves to let God prevail in our lives, by doing what we know from the Lord, it would not be easy, but with the Lord, nothing is impossible, we just humble enough, to say honestly, thy will be done, not what I want, ❤and 🙏 prayers
Thanks for clarifying. Sometimes LDS people can judge righteousness inappropriately. Only God knows this person and their own path back to Heavenly Father. Love you Brother!!
I loved your comment about bridgeheads - that was something I hadn't considered - that without a solid bridgehead on each side of the divide a bridge cannot be built.
Pastor Jeff’s intentions is to build bridges, which can be good intent. You are right about building testimony. I love that you have such a deep discipline in the gospel of Jesus Christ you built line upon line for 47 years, then hearing the restoration you followed your heart and all this your pondering, learning and digging for answers all came together and your “HAPPY”. It’s built my testimony not questioned it. Refreshing.
Shifting sand... Wow! I don't know you, but I'm excited about what's in store for you in terms of Church callings and opportunities to serve! Oh, and let's not forget your Patriarchal Blessing, which is on the horizon in the near future!😊
The one thing I heard you say that really resonated-take as much time with the conference talks as you do with Pastor Jeff. You are one of the few new converts I have heard early on after baptism be so focused on the words of the prophet and 12. I think your quest for authority prior to baptism was truly spiritual encouragement! I am so happy that soon you will progress in the Priesthood, receive a patriarchal blessing and make covenants in the temple. There is so much of Jesus in the temple. The gathering of Israel is in full force! There is so much in store as you receive “all the Father hath” as you continue in the gospel. The fullness of the gospel is ongoing for all of us. Continuing and personal revelation-oh it is wonderful.
I've been a member since 1968. Shortly after my true conversion in 1977 I asked my brothers wife to open her mind like I heard you just do and she flipped out. My brother is 11 years older than me and I regretted doing that. Hopefully your internet Missionary work wont produce the same reaction I got. My son introduced my to one of your videos a couple days ago. Now I'm hooked. Great job sharing all you're learning in the Lords true church.
Hey David we would love to watch your reaction to general Conference as a brand-new convert to the church. As the Latter-Day Saint since i was 3yrs old and now I am 41. I love your perspective on things as a brand new enthusiastic member.
Too. But what I want to say that I wrote a song for my children many years ago. It goes like this: "Windows, windows, each of us has windows; windows windows, each of us has some. Just open up the drapes and let your love shine through. Just open up the drapes and let the sun touch you... If you'd only give your light to everyone you meet ; you will see the holy light that shines for you and me." There are more verses but that's what I wanted to share. I understand your words in this episode. You're doing a great work for the Lord.
After watch all of Pastor Jeff’s shows; he started out with full intentions of gathering the weak members into his fold. He knows lots of members have left the restored gospel and there is many on the cusp of leaving. He realized that attract with honey is better than battling. The pastor of men (Jeff) went to the leaders of his church and pitched his approach and they gave permission for him to try this method to swing new followers to them “mainstream Christianity” is what they call themselves. I have noticed that he is starting to understand more of the true gospel of Jesus Christ and it is slowly changing him. (Understanding of the restored gospel, respect of members, and seeing the glory of the vast church of the Savior). Is he a wolf in sheep’s clothing; he started out that way and slowly been changing or he is better at dressing up his suit.
I love Pastor Jeff and his videos. I’m very secure in my testimony of my faith and especially the Book of Mormon but we need far more respectful dialogue with good Pastors like Jeff not less. As society casts off its spiritual moorings I want to join forces with honest Christians and stop the infighting between us.
But Jeff is not respectful. In his video, 'Pastor Reacts to Joseph Smith' he offered 2 weak compliments about the prophet and 26 criticisms and negative comments...all within 9 minutes. He even castigated Joseph at the end saying he wasn't as kind and 'open handed' as Jeffs LDS fans. He elevated his fans above the Prophet. Who does he think he is? Obviously he must also see himself as greater than the Prophet Joseph Smith. The thing was that no one pulled him up on it. I thought they must watch his videos like they watch television with their brain turned off. I have taken content analysis of a number of his videos and comment section and I can sum up that he is dangerous to those with little experience and those with fragile testimonies. Not that I'm comparing him, but I can understand now how the very elect will be fooled when the 'antichrist' appears.
BTW, Jerry. We don't cause the fighting. Have you ever heard an unkind word about any religion from any LDS pulpit? Have you ever seen a book written by an LDS criticising any one of the 45,000 Christian denominations? Have you ever seen a LDS podcast or a video bashing them? You could only say 'no' to those 3 questions. However, if you turn the tables you can almost hear the demons in hell going berserk. If Jeff wanted to build bridges he wouldn't be taking constant digs at the Church to an audience that are 97% LDS (I counted). Instead, he would be taking a concilatory message to the 83 million Evangelicals in the USA. He has our members eating out of his hand to be swatted away as usual by the greater number who have not been part of the shaky 'bridge building'. We are supposed to be clever as serpents and gentle as doves, not as stupid as a turkey.
How would I know if David was always pure in heart? I didn't say, 'we didn't start the fight'. I said 'we don't cause the fighting' then went on to point out where the contention is rooted. Why do you think you have to remind me of the Saviour's teaching on the Mount. It seems a tad judgemental to me. For your information, I wasn't raised in the Church. I was raised in a war situation where I had friends who killed many people. I was imprisoned 3 times. I know all the different types. It becomes a secondary sense. It all in the eyes. I have been in the company of demons and basked in the love of the Saviour. My conversion was miraculous. and the Holy Ghost enjoys my company. I do not feel anger or hatred when I'm calling out lies. The Saviour called out the Scribes and Pharisees and Paul called those who would not spare the Church as wolves. Where they wrong? Was Gideon or Alma wrong when they called out Nehor? My heart is neither overflowing with charity towards Jeff or overflowing with accusations. I'm simply pointing out facts that he is, for example, slyly damaging the legacy and memory of the Prophet Joseph Smith as I mentioned in a comment earlier on in this thread. I am mindful that there are those from the Church listening to him who are inexperienced and others with fragile testimonies who would be susceptible to Jeff's negativity and passive-aggressive criticism. This concerns me as I am my brothers keeper. As I said, I have lived through a war and survived. Right now there is a spiritual war raging and I will endeavour to survive it too along with as many as I can help.
@@gwengold8154 judgemental wasn't the most accurate word I could have used, it really was condescending. I am not being condescending towards Jeff but in his criticism of the Prophet he was being condescending towards Joseph. I do love Joseph Smith and Jeff is delusional thinking he is better than him.
I really enjoy pastor Jeff. I really like him. I like hearing his journey exploring the gospel. I like getting an understanding of how those who are not members see us. I think he is helping to build Bridges between the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints and other Christian. My testimony though is strong and unshakable. Even though I don't have all the answers. I love learning about your attorney also!❤
9:12 a lot of people have been worried about Hello Saints being a wolf in sheep’s clothing channel because when he did his book of mormon review videos, there was little mention of some of the favorite faith building scriptures that both sides would be edified by, but instead his use of anachronisms to explain his impressions of the Book of Mormon. Many people have questioned his honesty since that point. It is really difficult to know his full intentions, and people feel a lot of lack of trust because of all of the problems that have happened in the past. I hope he’s not offended in hearing that, but it’s the honest truth. Regardless, we love him and wish the best for him, no matter what he truly feels in his heart.
David, I'm glad I found your channel and I'm glad I found Hello Saints. Paster Jeff did say in a video on a different channel that he was hoping to give Latter Day Saints who leave the church have a place to go so yes, he hopes he is building an off ramp for Latter Day Saints to follow. Thank you for sharing your perspective and God bless you.
I prayed for everyone and you to see the spirit of the bridge building they are all working towards. It was fun to see you talk about it. I am so thankful for it!
no matter what WE do to GET someone else converted it won’t work. Conversion comes by following through with the soft whispering of the spirit. It is the Lord who changes us. You, my brother, heard those quiet whisperings and went along with what the Lord was telling you. Also we all have agency, not everyone will choose the Lords plan of salvation to become like Him. The Lord WANTS everyone to be like Him in the end but ultimately He allows us to choose. Conversion is a very personal thing and our duty is to plant seeds, show them love and truth and allow the Lord to do the work within all of us. That’s what I Love so much about our understanding of the Plan of Salvation.
We had our stake conference this last weekend, and there were several stories told by brothers who had wandered through the desert for decades before finding the Church. Our Stake President told yours. Our Mission President told of baptizing his father at age 85 right before he came out to serve here. The Lord is doing great work in his own time.
❤ Hi David, I admire you're point of views. We have no right to judge others. we are in courage infact to read good books and make no difference with watching good videos like the one with P Jeff. I love people who shares LDS belief and doctrines even if they don't totally agree. Remember that God loves all of his children no matter what and he always find a way to help those who really seeking the truth. I believe that in all things there is a season and you may not find it here on earth but in the next life you can't miss a thing in the spirit in prison. We have to love one another with respect and kindness.
David, I look forward to your videos. You remind me of my father with your depth of wisdom and knowledge of the New and Old Testaments. So excited for you! And love to hear your thoughts on doctrine from your point of view. Absolutely phenomenal!!
Yes, as deciples we just pray, talk and thinking blessings for each other,as our Savior we follow, died for us all, feeling you love for the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and His Church and doctrines to love God with all our hearts might, mind and strength, and to love all as we love ourselves, thank you David, love and prayers
As for pastor Jeff, if I listen to him, I listen to how the church he goes to believes in the Bible, and how the interpretation they use skews the religion in one way or another. As a missionary, it is nice to know what others believe in order to "build on common grounds" with those around us, and not divide further. Rarely, does one invite you in if you say at the door, " Hi, we have a message that shows your church is wrong". Everyone knew the gospel in its fulness in the premortal life, they just need a recollection of it, and you don't help them if you cause turmoil, anger, irreverence, etc. You bring the light, not the darkness, in order the touch the Light of Christ within all of us.
David, you are a bright light cutting through the fog. I never felt that you were calling Pastor Jeff a wolf in sheep’s clothing. I agree that he is nice and perhaps even well intentioned but his heart is not open. He is much like the pastor you described who minimized the young girl’s testimony of her spiritual experience when she performed baptisms for the dead. The pastor quoted part of a scripture from the Bible which indicated that 1st we die and then comes the judgement to make his point, ignoring other scriptures that support the work for those who have passed on. I must admit that I got excited when Pastor Jeff agreed to read the Book of Mormon. I wondered how he would react to 2nd Nephi chapter 29 which says the Gentiles will say, exactly what Pastor Jeff himself had earlier stated, that “We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible.” His comment to shoot this down was that when this was reportedly recorded there was no Bible and no word for Bible. He made no further comments on the rest of this chapter which called those who suggest that the Bible is the ONLY word, are fools. He totally side-stepped the precious words about God remembering all the nations of the earth and that his work is not finished nor are his words. As far the “error in using the word “Bible”, it seems curious to suggest that the Lord who is omniscient, could not know the word Bible, that it would be called. Ignoring the precious words that have been so clearly placed before us is why the Lord chose a young 14 year old boy to restore his Church, rather than the “learned” ministers of the day. So happy that you listened to the spirit to become a fellow Saint.
Love listening to your commentary David. When you join the Church your family just got a whole lot bigger! Wherever you go in the world you will find the church is the same. People are not perfect, but the church is the same. I hope you get the chance someday to go to a General Conference in person. When you are in the presence of the General Authorities it is a very different experience than watching on TV. The Spirit that accompanies those holy men and holy women is profound. They have been set apart by Christ himself to lead the church and the spirit bears witness of it. Just in person the spirit is so powerful. The choir is also so amazing in person. Keep up the teaching, I appreciate your knowledge and testimony!
You absolutely made good points in the last video about focus. If I watch him, or even you so much I should be listening to the Prophets and conference talks more. You gave me a different perspective on my time usage and what I need to be focusing on. I have loved your videos and had never seen the gospel in the light you have presented it. Thank you for your honesty and calling out of my complacency. ❤😊
There was a lot of wisdom shared in this video. I love and highly recommend the Chosen! I loved Dallas Jenkins video that you quoted. It's like you said you wanted from these videos, we are uplifting and sharing in the faith with one another and it is so helpful!❤️❤️
43 years ago I was a member of a Christian church, and being based on the Bible I had no doubt that it was the true church or at least that is what I believed at that time, and when I met the missionaries of the Church of Jesus Christ, and they wanted to convert me to their church, I wanted to convert them into my church, and we exchanged talks, I taught them about my church and they taught me about their church. And when I was praying to God for them to change their hearts, my prayer was: Open their eyes because they don't see, open their ears because they don't listen, open their hearts so that they can penetrate the true teachings that are based on your Bible, your word. But as time passed, I kept praying and God had mercy on me and heard my prayer and changed my heart. My eyes were opened. My ears were opened and my heart, and I knew that those teachings that were based on the interpretation of men were not true, and that the Church of Jesus Christ was the true church on earth. I can listen to people like Pastor Jeff, and I can see the difference between light and darkness, it is very obvious, when a person is in the light, darkness is darkness, there is no fear because the testimony of the Holy Spirit is the most important thing .
Love your comment. Thank you for sharing your testimony
No thank you .
Carmen brown thank you for sharing your testimony . That was a great testimony . We can see that some like to remain in darkness . So God lets them . Agency . Since all these different religions will still remain and be in the millennium .
@@KLECKFILESdotCOM4TrueJesusou are mistaken. The Bible that we all know and what we have available has been originally translated from Masoretic Text which has been corrupted from the Septuagint which was at the time of Jesus was the scripture that is available and currently being used.
Bible right now has been proven to be corrupted by many Scholars.
Check Septuagint vs Masoretic Text difference anywhere online. You will find out. I'm sorry that you left LDS butif you really seek the truth not just listen to people that try to discourage LDS members, you will get the answers. Seek and you shall find
Dear @@KLECKFILESdotCOM4TrueJesus . We have the truth. Am sorry the mists of darkness block your sight,
but you are invited to find
the most brilliant light.
HOSANNAH!
I love that Pastor Jeff gives the Church free publicity and reads the Book of Mormon publicly online! That in itself is a reason to love and thank him. Many will have their ears and hearts pricked because of the light being shown. The Lord works in mysterious ways. No unhallowed hand can stop His work.
@@trower64 True, but you don't have to be LDS or Evangelical to come across his videos and get exposed to the Book of Mormon.
13:08 - That's why so many appreciate your videos and are cautious of the "well-produced" highly planned and edited videos of Pastor Jeff. You are real, raw and speak from your heart - and for a long period of time with no editing - with no script...and we can feel the difference. There's no angle, no agenda... just a genuine bearing your soul, story and testimony. It's very much appreciated!!
One thing that I appreciate about Latter-day Saints is that they strive toward (and often achieve) excellence. That's to say, likewise with Pastor Jeff, well-thought-out excellence in production quality needn't be caricatured as possessing some darkened, nefarious underbelly. Rather, excellence and goodness of heart/motivation can co-exist and needn't be mutually exclusive.
Yep Pastor Jeff is a professional!
I understand what you mean, but let's not forget General Conference is highly professional and scripted too.
@@lukehanson_ not really . They write from the Holy Ghost . They are not given assigned subjects . Yet they all have different talks . I’m sure they do go over them .
@@lukehanson_ no it isn’t . They are not assigned topics . They speak from the Holy Ghost . No two talks are alike . I’m sure they go over them .
Hi Alexander! You found a real treasure in the gospel. I found it in 1984. Listening to you feeling so joyful and humble reminds me how I felt.
I'm so glad you found this church. Those of us who see it for what it is are very blessed.
My favorite thing that you said is that if we have 30 min to listen to Jeff then we should be putting at least that much time into listening to our 12 apostles. That’s a GREAT REMINDER!
There are a lot of wolves in sheep’s clothing out there and most people think that because someone looks or acts nice, that they are harmless. That’s why a lot of people are being led away in the last days (and I don’t mean by Pastor Jeff)
I think more of us need to hear your perspective. No matter what you say on here people will “hear” it wrong. You do not need to make any apologies. Your message was kind. I think most of us heard what you were trying to say. Thank you for seeing what others with less experience might not see! You are wonderful!
I remember all the controversy with the Chosen and working with the LDS. They used the Churches sets and some of our talent also and it gave Dallas A lot of grief!. I believe the Church is coming out of obscurity and more people want to understand what we Really believe. Its time,for the Gospel of Jesus Christ to come out in the open and hasten the gathering! I think P Jeff, and Dallas, and Greg and you,David, are helping to lift the fog.
Recently watching things unfold with Derral Eves and Dallas Jenkins has been a massive breakthrough for our church’s ongoing interfaith and peacekeeping efforts. Our prophet is so inspired in this. The decision for him to allow The Chosen to film an entire season on our church’s property made me so happy. Having you be a part of this story now is so beautiful. I love having a front row seat for the miracles that are happening here! Thank you for helping us see them. ❤
You are a delight to watch and listen to. May God continue to bless and guide you as you spread and share His love ❤️
David Alexander you truly Lehi to your Evenchereco family 👪, you partake the fruit of the Gospel, sweet and wanted your Evenchereco and all to come partake as well, love and prayers brother ❤️ 🙏 💙
Pastor Jeff''s effort to understand The LDS Restored Gospel is highly commendable. LDS Members arent adversly influenced by people who dont agree with us with a smile than we are those who yell at us. The truth is, if both sides listen to each other with the intent to understand one another they are the ones who will end up being converted to LDS additional Gosple knowledge.
Love you David, so greatful for your testimony..I listen 5o you whenever I get on.
You are wonderful, Brother. Keep doing what you are doing.
We need to look upward for revelation and around us with kindness and love
When i first began listening to pastor jeff i did consider him a possible wolf in sheeps clothing myself but time can b a progressive teacher if we are wanting to learn.
Your videos long or short they're all wonderful, keep loving ❤️, share and invite Elder Alexander, you are one of the Best Servent of the Lord, Jesus Christ, keep shining brother
David,
I think it is so cool what you are doing with your testimony on UA-cam. Don’t underestimate the potential of your reach. Latter Day Saints need to hear your story as much as all Christians. It is amazing to me that the LDS producer reached out to you regarding Dallas Jenkins and the Chosen. The Chosen has touched my heart significantly in how it has brought the New Testament to life. It is amazing that important parts of it have been filmed at the LDS set in Utah and that Dallas has (carefully) said that he knows that we believe in the same Jesus. All of this is building bridges of understanding. In some way I feel that I understand Evangelicals more through the Chosen. Regarding Pastor Jeff, he seems to be sincere, and I’ll be interested to see how it goes. The simple truth is that we all have to remain grounded in our testimony of Jesus and his work anciently and modernly by the power of the Holy Ghost. Nobody is exempt. As President Nelson said, seek to understand and not to judge, but keep that conviction of the Latter Day work as we venture out in the world and on the net. Thank You for what you are doing.
Brian
Thank you so so much for this so interesting and uplifting video. You could not articulate it better than what you said: Im not watching Hello Saints because it does not build my testimony. This is not a slam to Paster Jeff. This is simply a measuring stick that we can use for all our pursuits. Love you David and I totally get what you are putting out there. I am so happy that you are a fellow Saint!!!
My family and I have enjoyed watching wonderful Paster Jeff's journey, the Chosen, and other UA-camrs doing similar things! We have especially enjoyed your channel! We love watching Conference like it's Christmas morning and I can truly see the gospel filling the earth like a flood as the Lord has promised before His coming ❤ There's nothing more exciting to see unfold or a time more significant to live in than to watch the Lord doing His work in these last days😊
Wonderful
Paster Jeff’s journey ?? Yes it is wonderful how paster Jeff actually helps clear up truths about our teachings . Rather he knows or not it makes others with pure hearts and clean hands kind what they hear about the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints . So thank you paster Jeff for your niceness as it seems to be back firing on you . Showing all the truths we actually have . Especially the temple visit . His wife liked it very much . Good job paster Jeff for showing all our wonderful truths . Rather he believes of not . He is exposing light and truth . He may be doing More good then he realizes . When Jeff hears this gospel taught in the millennium he may just grasp it then for all he knows about truths right now. I’m still for America as it is the promised land for Ephriam . Yes it is . And it is where all was started . Garden of Eden . Adam and Eve and all up to Noah . Far west was where Cain killed Able .Joseph of Egypt posterity is for America in his blessing that Joseph is a fruitful bough whose branches branch over the wall
To a land a far off . Ephraim inheritance is America a long with New Jerusalem and the city of Enoch . It all started in America then the flood came . America is still the promise land . One thing that is just way too hard to watch is him criticizing the book of Mormon .after a
The sacrifices to bring the book of Mormon to us . Gregg Matson is hard to take as I don’t watch him any more simply because he is starting to teach some wrong things himself . I worry for him .
David, you are way kinder than my husband in speaking about Paster Jeff. I am neutral in my opinion about him. My husband took a look at Paster Jeff and told me he encountered many of the same types on his mission. Their method is called “pace and lead”. He said he already knew what he is up to. It’s his experience and reality. No matter what, I know as members of the church, we are willing to show kindness to 😢g of our own testimony.
I give all my attention to our Prophet and Apostles mighty men of God, thanks David for reminding us where our focus should be when choosing who we watch on utube.
I find the utube shorts of our Prophet and Apostles a-perfect listen everyday to go hand in hand with our daily scriptures study to keep us solid and protected on the covenant path. Thanks David pastor Jeff gets not a second of my time
The restoration is very powerful
I love Pastor Jeff. I watched his reading of 1st and 2nd Nephi. He opened my eyes to the New Testament feel of the two books. Having grown up in the church this was a new way of looking at the BOM. I had many questions. If I hadn’t run across Jacob Hansen’s explanation about the New Testament feel I don’t know if my questions would have been answered. This strengthened my testimony of Joseph Smith. However, I could see how it could have undermined my faith. I think we need to make sure we always take his perspective in balance with the truths we know.
Where can we find Jacob Hansen’s explanation of the New Testament?
@@kimdavis1103 Jacob Hansen has a UA-cam channel called Thoughtful Faith
I first came across you when you were on the Cwic show. I love all of Greg’s videos. I also would watch Hello Saints. I’ve enjoyed that as well but, you are correct; it doesn’t strengthen my testimony. I’m grateful you pointed that out. We live in perilous times. It’s important to be picky on how we spend our time. I watched your earlier video on Hello Saints. I thought it was clear. Pastor Jeff doesn’t apologize for his opinion, you shouldn’t either. It’s ok to feel differently. Love your videos. Your excitement makes me happy. As a life long member I sometimes forget to be excited about my blessings. You remind me to be excited and share that excitement with others.
Glad you're feeling better, Brother David. We "Happy People" love you.
Thank you for praying at the end of your videos. This one was very meaningful to me. You are an incredible person and tool in our Heavenly Fathers hands to help build testimony among his faithful children. I completely agree with what you’ve communicated here, peacemakers needed, opening windows in the accusatory fog to allow hundreds of millions to see the light of the restored gospel…you are doing our Fathers work. God bless you brother.
Thank you David for your clarification!
TLD[W]: Pastor Jeff is not a wolf in sheep's clothing. He is serving God in bringing down walls of contention (along with others). We should heed President's Nelson's call for being peacemakers and exercise charity for all people, which includes hoping and believing the best of others. David isn't saying we should watch his videos, but that we should pray for him and others, especially those bringing down walls of contention, and love them all the same as we make decisions that best suite our needs. For Evangelicals that are dissatisfied, Jeff may be building on-ramps for them to see the light of the restoration.
We the members of the church of Jesus Christ we have the gift of the Holy Ghost,and we have the personal revelation, and when you see the light, the transparency of the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost is teaching in your mind, and in your heart every day of your life Listen to Pastor Jeff make me stronger in my own testimony of the true church of Jesus Christ but no doubt I’m stronger every day that I see the darkness and I am in the light no afraid at all I see because I’m stronger to see and recognize the true teachings of God are powerful.🌟
It's because we've been There
Am A Convert LDS here in The Philippines
I loved your point we need to keep listening to our Prophet and Apostles.
No need to apologize for speaking things as they are. Members of the church who have the gift of discernment actually already feel the same way as you do. You just happened to put it out there on your own channel. You are not telling us anything foreign or contrary to what we already know. No one call others evil, we just do need to exercise vigilance in protecting our testimony.
You are a really good man, brother Alexander. Don’t worry about the things that you shared in your first video about Pastor Jeff. Many of those things needed to be said and heard. Your message to be a peacemaker in this video is very good and right. But people do need to be cautious and guard their testimony. I have no doubt that Pastor Jeff is a really good man and loves the Lord but he is also a critic of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints. That can be a danger if listeners aren’t solid in their testimony of the truthfulness of Christ gospel. Hopefully with sincere exploration Pastor Jeff will receive a witness of the truth. Thank you for always sharing your heart.
I agree with your comment. I've seen too many, who have fragile testimonies, be led carefully away - even in my own family.
I have a sincere question: I see so many podcasts/videos about 'Mormon or LDS (fill in the blank)' on UA-cam these days. How do we know which ones are subtly (or not so subtly) seeking to lead members out of the Church, or prevent people from joining? Has any faithful Church member come up with a 'list' categorizing the different podcasts out there?
The only ones I watch are 'David Alexander', 'CWIC' with Greg Matsen, 'Come Back Podcast' with Ashly Stone, and 'Watcher Palmer' with former mission president, Scott Palmer. All these are wonderful. I'd like to watch others, but want to know which to avoid.
@@capybara39419 I listen to and enjoy each of those podcasts as well. Another good one is “Thoughtful Faith”(Jacob Hanson). There’s a couple others that I follow sometimes, but I think that the greatest way to grow our faith and feel the spirit of the Lord is to make more substantial time for listening to/reading the Scriptures. That’s where we will gain the greatest insights and treasures. And of course, Prophet/conference talks/solid leaders of the church.
Sometimes too much information overload from other sources can drown out personal revelation. God bless you on your spiritual journey.
The work of God gets done in many ways, and He reserves the right to use His friends, enemies, and neutrals to do it. God has a track record of turning His biggest haters into His biggest supporters. All things work for the good of those who love God and are called by Him for His purposes. Whether for good or for evil intentions (and only God can judge the intents of the heart), God will work it out for His glory. There are no other worldly organizations, religious or otherwise, that barely begin to compare to the length, depth, breadth, destiny, authority and amplitude of Jesus Christ's restored Church. I'm glad that PJ is checking the Church out and opening the discussion, despite the heat he may be taking from his own side of the aisle. I'm pleased that he's showing other evangelicals that, while our doctrines differ, we're not that evil cult they've been ranting on about for so long.
Amen! It's not just about us...it's also about the 10 of millions of dissatisfied Evangelicals....who are having a bit of the chance to see...from a distance but still see a bit of the light of the Restored Church. That is a VERY big deal.
@@davidmalvinalexander I'm excited to see the miracles He's about to do. So many lost sheep and through you and others, He's calling to them in their own evangelical language. He loves us all and He won't stop until His work is done. We just have to make sure that there's a safe and welcoming place for them to come to, hence the divine mandate to be peacemakers!
I have watched Pastor Jeff and thoughts have came to mind what is his purpose in doing this. He has a great heart. I was like him for a long time. Later I have a dream about who are the children of light. I learned that they are humble and rather than seek first without asking father you will be deceived. Always humble yourself first and ask God then seek and gather shows you the truth. I hear many times that you have thought something and then stopped and prayed about it even if it just didn’t seem right. Or could not be right or true. I pray that Pastor Jeff does do this. Stop pray and ask father rather than not questioning some things he has been taught, for example he spoke of who created the world. Pray and ask father then reread 1st John. I read this several
Times and I was wrong every time until the missionaries asked me
If I prayed first and asked father. Thank goodness I took this challenge and I took time to sincerely ask and read it again. It was amazing what father reveals to me. Pray first. Seek and we will see the answers.
thank you, David .. I really enjoyed this video. I understood what you meant in the last video, so I’m sure most people did. I knew that you knew that members of the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints, believe in the same Jesus as the evangelist Christians. And I need to thank you because I listened to several conference talks today and will continue to do that every day. So grateful you joined the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints. You are truly a disciple of Christ.! just really love your enthusiasm and excitement in joining the church and expressing your testimony to the world!
Thank you David. Well said and well done. Pastor Jeff recently did a video on his tour of Saratoga Springs New temple after an invitation from another LDS friend. I know he struggles with some of LDS concepts but I felt he was sincere and presented those struggles fairly. He and his wife are good people and will continue to explore LDS doctrine. I feel we are brothers in Christ with Pastor Jeff. And I too won't be watching him consistently. Love you brother David for the bridges you are building.
Pastor Jeff hates temples . Has no use for them . He feels nothing . Seems his wife did . He can stay out of our temples. I got tired of the sound of his voice . Why do you not think he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing ? I’m not expecting him to convert . But he says he wants us to convert . I wish he really just wanted to build bridges . Yes perhaps he could do more good then bad and not realize it . God can us him to bring our truths to light .
The restoration of the gospel is so important, and losing your testimony of that is so perilous, especially once you’ve made covenants with the Lord, that your cautions are important! Don’t worry about speaking your heart on the risks.
Thank you! I repent for calling him that. He does appear to be sincere and it is no different than us being missionaries
Members of The Church are just fascinated that Pastor Jeff is interested in us. That's so unusual for protestants.
Bro David you're nice enough for a baby boomer. (Am one too.)
Thanks for being real. Don't worry too much. You have your own genre of quality.
David, stay the course. Don’t let this or anything else move you off-center of the Highway to Heaven. I was Pentecostal once. We sang that song. I bet you know it. My grandson asked me, Pa, is there such a highway. Keep the faith!
David I love your testimony .
Thank you Brother Alexander for your enthusiasm in the restoration, the book of Mormon, the Latter-day scriptures, living Apostles and prophets. Your story is a miracle and is an inspiration. We as Latter-day saints have always had those who act as friends and turn out to be ravenous wolves so sometimes we can be a bit cautious and I guess rightfully so. I have watched so of Pastor Jeff's presentations and I honestly hope he can continue his quest because I see him being guided by the hand of God to find eternal truth. Now, if he chooses to accept it or reject it, I judge not (I have my own problems in life to deal with). I do wish him the best and I can hope for his sincerity. I do like that he is actually reading and studying the Book of Mormon so I trust that God can do missionary work through its pages. Thank you for your testimony and enthusiasm, it is very refreshing to me, a member since 1973 so one can never know who they are helping out here. I do pray that the Holy Ghost will begin to bear down in pure testimony and truth upon this world as I know so many in my little corner of the vineyard who need that little push in the right direction. God bless you!!
I commented on the last video about pastor Jeff. Although my thoughts have not changed about his intentions, I do recognize that engaging in negative comments about another does push away the spirit.
David, I know you are just being protective of your fellow brothers and sisters but unfortunately in this day and age with the internet things can get misconstrued and turn nasty rather quickly. Stay focused on your testimony and the story of others and you will be a light unto the world.
Your comment here is spot on! Thanks for sharing this ❤
You bring US to tears...we love your ferver and testimony of the restored gospel....you help fan the flame of our burning testimonies!😊 Thank you!
I am not LDS and agree mostly, if not fully, with Pastor Jeff as a Messianic Jew. I sincerely appreciate your video as it clarifies a lot.
In a time of deconstruction happening a lot among Evangelicals, Messianic Jews, Catholics, Orthodox, and Latter Day Saints, building interfaith bridges is needed now more than ever.
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Love,praying and Crying with you, my brother, David Alexander we all in as you said, Love God first and to all others as we love ourselves, love your pure heart David, All wonderful return Praises unto the Savior, Jesus Christ the Lord ❤and 🙏
I fully agree with what you said here. I love Pastor Jeff and his approach to our church and gospel. He is truly building bridges. There is someone else out there also building bridges from Evangelicals to Latter-Day Saints and that is Steven Pynakker from Mormon Book Reviews. He interviews all voices of the restoration and has read all sorts of LDS, ex-LDS and scholarly books pertaining to the church. He is very respectful and is a big fan of all sides of The Restoration. I think you should reach out for an interview!
Thank you, David, for this important clarification. Peacemakers needed.
For me, your video was such a great reminder that I need to put Christ and my relation with HIM above all else. The best reminder you made was that I should be spending more time listening to the living apostles than I do wasting time on UA-cam. And honestly, that's something I'm very very guilty of. Keep being the beacon of light and truth that you are David, we appreciate your faith and your example greatly.
You spoke the truth - there are many exit ramps off the covenant path. You spoke the truth that instead of listening to doctrines that can possibly take us on the off ramp of the covenant path, that we should instead be feasting on the words of the scriptures and listening to our beloved prophet and apostles (like Safety for the Soul by Jeffrey R Holland - ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥whoop whoop)!!
Br Alexander, you said what needed to be said in a kind, and respectful but truthful way about Pastor Jeff. Everything you said was true!!! I know that he is a nice man and loves God, but you are absolutely right. Time is the currency that we cannot get back, so I will choose instead to spend my time learning, growing, and serving in the Church. Thank you Br Alexander for sharing your pure joy in finding the true gospel. Your testimony and knowledge is joyous to behold.
I still have hope that Paster Jeff will become a covenant making follower of Jesus Christ. I thank you for your sharing. Love your sharing!
I have listened to Hello Saints often. I served as a sister missionary in Virginia in the '80s. That area was considered the Bible belt. I have vivid memories of getting screamed at and spit at while out looking for people to teach. It seemed like there was fear/hate in their eyes. There were few opportunities to explain that we believed in the same Jesus. It's hard to begin sharing the good news of the restored gospel without first establishing a starting place, some common ground. Even to build a bridge you have to be in alignment on the opposite sides of the bank. Pastor Jeff was a refreshing opportunity to learn why someone could be so fearful of a shy 21 yr. old girl from Idaho with Jesus Christ's name pinned to her dress.
But you, even having dug into the messy places, embrace the church with apostles and prophets, led by Jesus Christ. And you are doing it right out loud. And the Holy Spirit testifies of truth. We are blessed. We can discern what voices to listen to. It's more than refreshing, it's edifying.
I started my military career back in the Spring of 1980 in Ft. Eustis, Virginia and we had to go all the way to Richmond for church meetings. To my surprised, when I went there again in 1987(my 3rd time) there was a Stake Building in Newport News. It was very impressive!!!
For me, I feel that Pastor Jeff is “bridge building.” As a Latter-day Saint, I believe he is popular because we are so used to being bashed in the head all of the time with our beliefs, that we are relieved and joyful to find someone who doesn’t think we are growing horns on our head. We love our faith. But we also really believe that Pastor Jeff is a child of God just like we are, and God will gather Him in, in His own time. In the meantime, Pastor Jeff is doing many good works, and helping many to Christ. Latter-day Saints really do need to understand where our Evangelical friends are coming from, so we can engage them properly in preparing the world for the Savior’s return. Sometimes we use the same words to mean different things, and sometimes we use different words to mean the same things. It is helpful to know our differences and similarities. I remind myself that God could, if He wanted to, reveal the truth to the whole world that we have Christs gospel. But He doesn’t. For some reason, He let’s us work it out with each other, and uses all of us for His purposes, if we are willing. ❤
Beautiful!
Wow, I love how you used your words. Very beautifully articulated.
Thanks for this follow up video… I do believe we need bridges and relationships that connect all those that love Christ. ❤
We are all allies in bringing people to the loving embrace of their Savior
Hi David,
I'm one of the Happy People!!
I'm a convert to the Church since 1968 when I was 19 years old.
Previous to my conversion, I was a member of the Assembly of God Church.
I doubt that I was an example of a devout member because I really didn't know that being a Mormon as we referred to them then was frowned upon.
My sister's objection was the only one that I encountered back then.
All I really remember is telling the missionaries is I didn't need to be baptized again as I had previously been baptized in my other Church. LOL Little did I know then compared to what I now know.
My Faith was always in my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
I've loved my Lord and Savior for as long as I can remember. His Spirit has been my guide throughout my life and I really do think that I have led a very lovely life because of His guidance.
Enough about me. I'm very much attracted to your Testimony and I've even shared this with my family and friends.
I love your passion for your new found Faith.
The reason I felt compelled to comment on this video message is I too have fallen under the spell of Pastor Jeff.
I've truly enjoyed most of the videos of his due to his charming personality. However, I have to disagree with you about why I continue to watch. I can't believe that he is completely satisfied with being in a Church that is of another Faith. How can he be this close to investigating the Lord's true Church and it have no effect on Him?
How can someone read the Book of Mormon and not feel the Lord's Spirit speaking to his heart and mind?
So, I don't think that Pastor Jeff is going to be content in his current Faith after seeing the Blessings of the Lord for members of His true Church.
The fog that you speak about is the only way that Satan can obstruct the truth and I admit that it is extremely difficult to penetrate. However the Lord's Holy Spirit can and does speak the truth to anyone who is willing to listen.
I'm sure that Pastor Jeff is going to have to face the truth sooner or later. I pray that it's sooner and this is why I keep watching. I'm going to say that ultimately the Spirit is going to speak to him in a way that is undeniable and that the only reason he would not choose the Lord's true Church is because he would have to switch careers. LOL I don't know if this would stop him but I haven't actually heard him mention that our Church has no paid ministry.
I'm sure that he's aware of this though.
I have many friends who are members not of our Faith. The thing that keeps me completely anchored to our Faith is the Book of Mormon.
I read the Book of Mormon each day and remember to say my prayers and this keeps me totally anchored to the Lord Jesus Christ and His Gospel.
I'm so grateful for our Church Leadership,
especially our Prophet.
I love all of my family and friends in and out of the Church. But mostly I love the happiness I enjoy from all of the Blessings that our Heavenly Father continues to Bless me with.
Many Blessings for you as you continue your journey through this process of sharing your Testimony. And, of course, I will continue to watch and listen to your UA-cam videos as well.
I'm loving your passion for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
May God Bless you always, dear friend.
Your Sister in the Gospel,
Betty Reynolds
May 7th, 2023
P. S.
Please use some old fashion Vicks Vaporub on your chest to help with your cold. It really works for coughing and congestion.
Plus you might enjoy Barbara O'Neill's video about Natural Remedies. She's a fellow Australian that I totally agree with for righteous health issues and treatments. ❤❤❤❤
Wow Betty...what a lovely letter. Thanks so much for your insight and your warm encouragement!
Thank you for your testimony. Haha, Vicks Vapor rub is a home staple in the Philippines growing up.
You are a good man Bro. Alexander. Your heart is in the right place. We should love those of other Christian faiths. They are trying their best to live the Christian faith based on what they know.
I think making comments and allusions about Pastor Jeff and wolf in sheep's clothing is opening a bit of contention. Pastor Jeff has been VERY CLEAR that he's not converting, and he compares/contrasts our beliefs and scriptures with evangelical aspects. We can respect differences, and I personally feel that he's opening up aspects of our church to otherwise unreachable evangelicals who are closed off by comments and sentiments by people who don't know anything about the gospel or practices.
Pastor Jeff is sincere in his efforts, and he's honest with us about this. It doesn't deserve a wolf in sheep's clothing metaphor.
I hope you'll keep your enthusiasm and your testimony, and respect the differences of one another. We are all on unique paths towards Heavenly Father, and agency being a great gift from Him, means we all are deserving of love and respect. It was a beautiful and Jesus loving and obedient baptist woman who taught this LDS man this concept in a simple drawing.
Am LDS from Uganda what i know about pastor Jeff is that he is sacrificing his time and talents to know about the kingdom of God the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints and reaveled truth, pastor Jeff is also learning new things about the church of Jesus Christ he is also opening the eyes of the world to see the beauty of the restoration of the gospel new doctrine that Jesus Christ has reaveled in his church and also historical sites of the church.he is an example to other religious leaders and faith we should not think inside the box but out side box.i remember when Jesus Christ introduced new teaching to the phrases and jews they were gainst him because they hearing new thing they were blinded and not opening their heart to learn new reaveled truth Jesus Christ taught them.its the sam to Day the world is un comfortable about the new doctrine which heavenly father has revealed its beyond their understanding .but to us latter day saints are simple teaching even the child can understand and rejoice,thanks David Alexander may the lord bless you keep the faith one day we shall enjoy the fruits of our labours when the savior comes again to reign for a thousand years.
I'm really glad to have found this video from you! I saw your last video and enjoyed it very much. Sorry to hear you've not been well! Hope you continue to feel better! Keep up the encouraging messages. You are appreciated!
I think for me it’s based on curiosity. I didn’t serve a mission and have never felt like I was part of a conversion. There’s an element of suspense in where this can go. And fascination in reading his interactions and responses. I have pretty much watched them all. I also go to the temple multiple times a week and study come follow me. And do my ministering. I especially enjoy when he’s reading BOM. I wonder to myself if he thinks about if Joseph Smith wrote from the top of his head. He said once about it taking 2 years or something. I think it’s not even 2 months if you compact the time it took consecutive. I wonder if he knows Joseph Smith was a laborer and had about a 3rd grade education. There’s no way he did this without divine help and guidance. Maybe he will think about that in the future. Maybe it keeps him up at night thinking. But it’s his path and it’s no one’s choice but his. And maybe his wife has some input (she should). I want him with us because he’s converted true and not because he’s getting lots of attention. I hope. For him and any others investigating the church.
David, I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your commentary on Pastor Jeff & Hello Saints.
Your off-ramp analogy is spot on.
There will probably be a thousand or more comments so I’ll summarize my experience with Pastor Jeff in bullet points.
- Very happy to see an Evangelical Christian be respectful to us and our faith which feels rare.
- Excited to see him really try to understand our perspective and actually read the entire Book of Mormon.
- Disappointed but not surprised that he reads the Book of Mormon in such a sterile way not seeming to allow the overwhelming testimony of the the Savior Jesus Christ that it witnesses to penetrate his heart or to give the Book of Mormon the credit for being an actual source of truth for the rest of Christianity.
- Intrigued and impressed when he took the time to go through a come follow me lesson.
- Stopped listening to his come follow me lesson after about a half hour because it lacked the spiritual power that I’m used to experiencing in those lessons.
- I am happy that Jeff is doing what he is doing and believe that he is a sincere believer in Jesus Christ.
- Hopeful that some day the spirit will penetrate his heart and a whole world can be opened up to him that is available through Priesthood Authority.
- Will check in here and their on his channel to see how he is doing.
- I will continue to listen to the prophets and apostles messages daily and read the scriptures as my guiding source and will not allow any UA-cam influencer to replace them.
beautiful!
BTW David, keep up the great work. I absolutely love hearing your perspective especially on topics that some members have struggled with over the years. I consider myself to be very strong in my gospel foundation but yet I have learned much from you. So glad you found the faith!!!
This is pretty awesome, that you're just chilling and talking to a camera for that long. Its like I'm actually there listening, and its nice.
I did not misunderstand your original video. I've been sharing your videos with everyone. I love your testimony
Sorry... That originally said I did not "understand" but I did. I understood it
@@talkofchrist Did you know you can click the three dots and edit your message.
I love you David! This vid was glorious, just like you! 🙏❤️
I myself started from similar experience, started from LMS Christian ✝️ church converted unto the Savior and His Church, The Church of Jesus Christ of latter day Saints, we are imperfect people who have serch all truths with the Lord's help, we will find, we just humble ourselves to let God prevail in our lives, by doing what we know from the Lord, it would not be easy, but with the Lord, nothing is impossible, we just humble enough, to say honestly, thy will be done, not what I want, ❤and 🙏 prayers
Thanks for clarifying. Sometimes LDS people can judge righteousness inappropriately. Only God knows this person and their own path back to Heavenly Father. Love you Brother!!
You were very inspired in your other video, everything you said was extremely accurate and inspiring.
Amen . As a lifelong lds, pastor Jeff is a very gracious fair minded kind person .
I loved your comment about bridgeheads - that was something I hadn't considered - that without a solid bridgehead on each side of the divide a bridge cannot be built.
Amen! we are encouraging faith not discouraging our/ones faith in God and His Son, Jesus Christ!
Pastor Jeff’s intentions is to build bridges, which can be good intent. You are right about building testimony. I love that you have such a deep discipline in the gospel of Jesus Christ you built line upon line for 47 years, then hearing the restoration you followed your heart and all this your pondering, learning and digging for answers all came together and your “HAPPY”. It’s built my testimony not questioned it. Refreshing.
A still small voice approves of this message. :>)
Shifting sand... Wow! I don't know you, but I'm excited about what's in store for you in terms of Church callings and opportunities to serve! Oh, and let's not forget your Patriarchal Blessing, which is on the horizon in the near future!😊
The one thing I heard you say that really resonated-take as much time with the conference talks as you do with Pastor Jeff. You are one of the few new converts I have heard early on after baptism be so focused on the words of the prophet and 12. I think your quest for authority prior to baptism was truly spiritual encouragement! I am so happy that soon you will progress in the Priesthood, receive a patriarchal blessing and make covenants in the temple. There is so much of Jesus in the temple. The gathering of Israel is in full force! There is so much in store as you receive “all the Father hath” as you continue in the gospel. The fullness of the gospel is ongoing for all of us. Continuing and personal revelation-oh it is wonderful.
I've been a member since 1968. Shortly after my true conversion in 1977 I asked my brothers wife to open her mind like I heard you just do and she flipped out. My brother is 11 years older than me and I regretted doing that. Hopefully your internet Missionary work wont produce the same reaction I got. My son introduced my to one of your videos a couple days ago. Now I'm hooked. Great job sharing all you're learning in the Lords true church.
Hey David we would love to watch your reaction to general Conference as a brand-new convert to the church.
As the Latter-Day Saint since i was 3yrs old and now I am 41. I love your perspective on things as a brand new enthusiastic member.
Too. But what I want to say that I wrote a song for my children many years ago. It goes like this: "Windows, windows, each of us has windows; windows windows, each of us has some. Just open up the drapes and let your love shine through. Just open up the drapes and let the sun touch you... If you'd only give your light to everyone you meet ; you will see the holy light that shines for you and me." There are more verses but that's what I wanted to share. I understand your words in this episode. You're doing a great work for the Lord.
After watch all of Pastor Jeff’s shows; he started out with full intentions of gathering the weak members into his fold. He knows lots of members have left the restored gospel and there is many on the cusp of leaving. He realized that attract with honey is better than battling. The pastor of men (Jeff) went to the leaders of his church and pitched his approach and they gave permission for him to try this method to swing new followers to them “mainstream Christianity” is what they call themselves. I have noticed that he is starting to understand more of the true gospel of Jesus Christ and it is slowly changing him. (Understanding of the restored gospel, respect of members, and seeing the glory of the vast church of the Savior). Is he a wolf in sheep’s clothing; he started out that way and slowly been changing or he is better at dressing up his suit.
Praying for you, dear brother! I have loved hearing your story and so appreciate your Daniel like courage in defending truth❣️
I love Pastor Jeff and his videos. I’m very secure in my testimony of my faith and especially the Book of Mormon but we need far more respectful dialogue with good Pastors like Jeff not less. As society casts off its spiritual moorings I want to join forces with honest Christians and stop the infighting between us.
I totally agree.
But Jeff is not respectful. In his video, 'Pastor Reacts to Joseph Smith' he offered 2 weak compliments about the prophet and 26 criticisms and negative comments...all within 9 minutes. He even castigated Joseph at the end saying he wasn't as kind and 'open handed' as Jeffs LDS fans. He elevated his fans above the Prophet. Who does he think he is? Obviously he must also see himself as greater than the Prophet Joseph Smith. The thing was that no one pulled him up on it. I thought they must watch his videos like they watch television with their brain turned off. I have taken content analysis of a number of his videos and comment section and I can sum up that he is dangerous to those with little experience and those with fragile testimonies. Not that I'm comparing him, but I can understand now how the very elect will be fooled when the 'antichrist' appears.
BTW, Jerry. We don't cause the fighting. Have you ever heard an unkind word about any religion from any LDS pulpit? Have you ever seen a book written by an LDS criticising any one of the 45,000 Christian denominations? Have you ever seen a LDS podcast or a video bashing them? You could only say 'no' to those 3 questions. However, if you turn the tables you can almost hear the demons in hell going berserk.
If Jeff wanted to build bridges he wouldn't be taking constant digs at the Church to an audience that are 97% LDS (I counted). Instead, he would be taking a concilatory message to the 83 million Evangelicals in the USA. He has our members eating out of his hand to be swatted away as usual by the greater number who have not been part of the shaky 'bridge building'. We are supposed to be clever as serpents and gentle as doves, not as stupid as a turkey.
How would I know if David was always pure in heart?
I didn't say, 'we didn't start the fight'. I said 'we don't cause the fighting' then went on to point out where the contention is rooted.
Why do you think you have to remind me of the Saviour's teaching on the Mount. It seems a tad judgemental to me.
For your information, I wasn't raised in the Church. I was raised in a war situation where I had friends who killed many people. I was imprisoned 3 times. I know all the different types. It becomes a secondary sense. It all in the eyes. I have been in the company of demons and basked in the love of the Saviour. My conversion was miraculous. and the Holy Ghost enjoys my company. I do not feel anger or hatred when I'm calling out lies. The Saviour called out the Scribes and Pharisees and Paul called those who would not spare the Church as wolves. Where they wrong? Was Gideon or Alma wrong when they called out Nehor?
My heart is neither overflowing with charity towards Jeff or overflowing with accusations. I'm simply pointing out facts that he is, for example, slyly damaging the legacy and memory of the Prophet Joseph Smith as I mentioned in a comment earlier on in this thread. I am mindful that there are those from the Church listening to him who are inexperienced and others with fragile testimonies who would be susceptible to Jeff's negativity and passive-aggressive criticism. This concerns me as I am my brothers keeper.
As I said, I have lived through a war and survived. Right now there is a spiritual war raging and I will endeavour to survive it too along with as many as I can help.
@@gwengold8154 judgemental wasn't the most accurate word I could have used, it really was condescending.
I am not being condescending towards Jeff but in his criticism of the Prophet he was being condescending towards Joseph. I do love Joseph Smith and Jeff is delusional thinking he is better than him.
I really enjoy pastor Jeff. I really like him. I like hearing his journey exploring the gospel.
I like getting an understanding of how those who are not members see us. I think he is helping to build Bridges between the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints and other Christian. My testimony though is strong and unshakable. Even though I don't have all the answers. I love learning about your attorney also!❤
9:12 a lot of people have been worried about Hello Saints being a wolf in sheep’s clothing channel because when he did his book of mormon review videos, there was little mention of some of the favorite faith building scriptures that both sides would be edified by, but instead his use of anachronisms to explain his impressions of the Book of Mormon. Many people have questioned his honesty since that point. It is really difficult to know his full intentions, and people feel a lot of lack of trust because of all of the problems that have happened in the past. I hope he’s not offended in hearing that, but it’s the honest truth. Regardless, we love him and wish the best for him, no matter what he truly feels in his heart.
Very good points made here. I agree and believe the Hand of God is at work on both sides of the bridge.
David, I'm glad I found your channel and I'm glad I found Hello Saints. Paster Jeff did say in a video on a different channel that he was hoping to give Latter Day Saints who leave the church have a place to go so yes, he hopes he is building an off ramp for Latter Day Saints to follow. Thank you for sharing your perspective and God bless you.
I prayed for everyone and you to see the spirit of the bridge building they are all working towards. It was fun to see you talk about it. I am so thankful for it!
no matter what WE do to GET someone else converted it won’t work. Conversion comes by following through with the soft whispering of the spirit. It is the Lord who changes us. You, my brother, heard those quiet whisperings and went along with what the Lord was telling you. Also we all have agency, not everyone will choose the Lords plan of salvation to become like Him. The Lord WANTS everyone to be like Him in the end but ultimately He allows us to choose. Conversion is a very personal thing and our duty is to plant seeds, show them love and truth and allow the Lord to do the work within all of us. That’s what I Love so much about our understanding of the Plan of Salvation.
Thanks for thoughts on all of this, I really appreciated it
We had our stake conference this last weekend, and there were several stories told by brothers who had wandered through the desert for decades before finding the Church.
Our Stake President told yours.
Our Mission President told of baptizing his father at age 85 right before he came out to serve here.
The Lord is doing great work in his own time.
❤ Hi David, I admire you're point of views. We have no right to judge others. we are in courage infact to read good books and make no difference with watching good videos like the one with P Jeff. I love people who shares LDS belief and doctrines even if they don't totally agree. Remember that God loves all of his children no matter what and he always find a way to help those who really seeking the truth. I believe that in all things there is a season and you may not find it here on earth but in the next life you can't miss a thing in the spirit in prison. We have to love one another with respect and kindness.
I loved hearing the comments you read and your reactions which are always delightful!! Share more of them! You always make me laugh!!! 🥰
David, I look forward to your videos. You remind me of my father with your depth of wisdom and knowledge of the New and Old Testaments. So excited for you! And love to hear your thoughts on doctrine from your point of view. Absolutely phenomenal!!
I read your first line as "Depth" of wisdom, and hope I am correct in that feeling
Yes, as deciples we just pray, talk and thinking blessings for each other,as our Savior we follow, died for us all, feeling you love for the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and His Church and doctrines to love God with all our hearts might, mind and strength, and to love all as we love ourselves, thank you David, love and prayers
As for pastor Jeff, if I listen to him, I listen to how the church he goes to believes in the Bible, and how the interpretation they use skews the religion in one way or another. As a missionary, it is nice to know what others believe in order to "build on common grounds" with those around us, and not divide further. Rarely, does one invite you in if you say at the door, " Hi, we have a message that shows your church is wrong". Everyone knew the gospel in its fulness in the premortal life, they just need a recollection of it, and you don't help them if you cause turmoil, anger, irreverence, etc. You bring the light, not the darkness, in order the touch the Light of Christ within all of us.
David, you are a bright light cutting through the fog. I never felt that you were calling Pastor Jeff a wolf in sheep’s clothing. I agree that he is nice and perhaps even well intentioned but his heart is not open. He is much like the pastor you described who minimized the young girl’s testimony of her spiritual experience when she performed baptisms for the dead. The pastor quoted part of a scripture from the Bible which indicated that 1st we die and then comes the judgement to make his point, ignoring other scriptures that support the work for those who have passed on.
I must admit that I got excited when Pastor Jeff agreed to read the Book of Mormon. I wondered how he would react to 2nd Nephi chapter 29 which says the Gentiles will say, exactly what Pastor Jeff himself had earlier stated, that “We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible.” His comment to shoot this down was that when this was reportedly recorded there was no Bible and no word for Bible. He made no further comments on the rest of this chapter which called those who suggest that the Bible is the ONLY word, are fools. He totally side-stepped the precious words about God remembering all the nations of the earth and that his work is not finished nor are his words. As far the “error in using the word “Bible”, it seems curious to suggest that the Lord who is omniscient, could not know the word Bible, that it would be called.
Ignoring the precious words that have been so clearly placed before us is why the Lord chose a young 14 year old boy to restore his Church, rather than the “learned” ministers of the day. So happy that you listened to the spirit to become a fellow Saint.
Praying for your speedy recovery! 🙏
Thank you for your kindness towards all.
I appreciate your insights. Thank you, and I pray you feel better quickly. ❤
Hi Brother David. I enjoyed this video very much. THANKS!
Love listening to your commentary David. When you join the Church your family just got a whole lot bigger! Wherever you go in the world you will find the church is the same. People are not perfect, but the church is the same. I hope you get the chance someday to go to a General Conference in person. When you are in the presence of the General Authorities it is a very different experience than watching on TV. The Spirit that accompanies those holy men and holy women is profound. They have been set apart by Christ himself to lead the church and the spirit bears witness of it. Just in person the spirit is so powerful. The choir is also so amazing in person. Keep up the teaching, I appreciate your knowledge and testimony!
I love your channel because you are so funny and honest. Thats what we need in the world, humor, honesty and faith building. I love your convert fire!
You absolutely made good points in the last video about focus. If I watch him, or even you so much I should be listening to the Prophets and conference talks more. You gave me a different perspective on my time usage and what I need to be focusing on. I have loved your videos and had never seen the gospel in the light you have presented it. Thank you for your honesty and calling out of my complacency. ❤😊
I know who Derral Eves is. He spoke at a special stake fireside in our area about a year ago. What a wonderful man.
There was a lot of wisdom shared in this video. I love and highly recommend the Chosen! I loved Dallas Jenkins video that you quoted.
It's like you said you wanted from these videos, we are uplifting and sharing in the faith with one another and it is so helpful!❤️❤️