What he means by favorite, or so I assume, is that the concept is good vs multiple coverages. That could be 1 or 2 high zone beaters, as well as man beaters. Take double slants (mirrored, meaning the same concept is run on both sides) vs 2-Man. The DB's are aligned with an inside eye shade (b/c their help is deep & to the outside), so that's not the best play call, as JT mentioned. All in-breaking routes vs inside leverage is not really the play you want to be in.
@@TheQBSchool I wonder if this is legal under fair use? ua-cam.com/video/Ddwp1HyEFRE/v-deo.html . If it is, then you should be able to post clips so long as you are critiquing?
Thanks for clarifying that Jet is a turnback protection. I know most viewers probably didn't catch that (nor did they probably care), but I'm really into details. There's a whole lot of misinformation out there, especially around Jet protection, so it was great to get a definitive answer. As always, great video!
I like that you mention the Sluggo/slant - go concept. What are your thoughts on a flat and up/wheel route off of this concept? It seems like if number two has to carry the flat vertical this is a good match up. Seems like there might be a nice hole shot underneath a deep quarter/deep third defender with this double move.
Wheel routes are great! Slant/wheel, even curl/wheel! Don’t forget at the end of the game on a fourth and need it to run a hitch and pitch (similar to a wheel route. Throw the quick hitch to number one and have him pitch it on the outside like number two or the running back out in the flat running a wheel!)
I was thinking Deep / Strong. And hence the Open/Closed. Green bay doesn't play Seattle enough to take them into consideration at the play building level. Esp, not on a slant, which is going to be run vs everybody. If it was Chicago or Minnesota it would make more sense.
@@darkhobo JT explained that when he was in Minnesota with the Vikings, they called these scheme Detroit and Seattle, instead of Dragon and Lion. So I wasn't talking about the Detroit Lions or the Seattle Seahawks, just thinking about the other names ;)
@@namzar19 if you look at the available Denny Green/Brian Billick play books, this just seems to be their lingo. Nothing special, just their terminology. Billick playbooks seem to be a mixture of the Sid Gilman/Joe Gibbs number system and Westcoast terminology.
The Chiefs have taken the Dragon concept to a new level by using it as a run game tag. Their 2018 home game against Denver they some good success with it.
Good stuff JT! I enjoy your breakdowns. I also enjoy seeing how long the play calls are. Lol My kids could never recall all that. We call this 13 Slant + Tags
Slant and speed out is good against cover 3 because you truly get a 2 on 1 with overhang guy who could be playing a curl/flat or hook zone. The corner "should" be bailing in cover 3. In cover 2, slant/speed out is not as good because the corner responsibility is a low flat zone. So now the corner can play the out and the overhang can play the slant. Takes a really accurate and quick release to beat press cover 2 with a slant/speed out.
JT, you mentioned toward the beginning that both Dragon and Lion are not great vs quarters; what 2x2 quick game concepts do you like against quarters (ideally, but not necessarily, that still leave you with workable answers vs C3, C2, C1, etc)?
I’m slowly putting together the system I want to run when I can be an offensive coordinator. I really like the idea of split-field passing concepts like you detailed in this video (MOFO side, MOFC side). Is there a way to do it out of a 3x1 formation without motion, or do you need two receivers (2x2 or Empty) to run split-field concepts?
Hey I love your channel and I love when you go over pass concepts. I was wondering if you could possibly cover sluggo seam? Thanks for what you are doing I really appreciate these videos.
Question: at 5:59 of the video he says he doens't like it agaisnt quarters but end up saying he likes it against MOFO. Isn't quarters MOFO? What does he mean with that? Thanks guys
Because Quarters is a pattern match coverage, so if there isn't a vertical threat by #2 to occupy the safeties, they can play a "robber technique." He'll look to rob the curl to post of #1, since the CB is playing with outside leverage on #1. Then there's the overhang defender (outside backer, sub package DB) and he's called the match 2 player...that's match 2 shallow, not vertical. VS trips the defense could play Special, which is a Palms check to trips. It's an X-out on #1 to the trips side (CB has #1 in MEG), which leaves the overhang dropper and safety playing Palms/2-read on #2 & #3, but with the x-out on #1...that makes them the new #1 & #2). In one version from the Vikings, #2 would run the slant, then stem vertical. Now that would remove the safety, so that leaves the CBs playing with outside leverage with no inside help. Oh, and he said that variation was good against quarters. He just didn't do a breakdown of quarters... it would've been a 3 hour video lol
Hi Mr. O'Sullivan.. Are you familiar with a pass concept where there are twins wr's on one side vs a "2" high look. The (slot wr) runs the 1-2 step slant, but the OUTSIDE Wr, runs a (Five & IN= FIN route).. Is that a new concept? If so, what is it called? Thank you.. Great content
@@TheQBSchool Thank you for reading, and taking the time out to respond to my question. But im trying to figure out if (slot quick slant, followed by outside fin route) have a common name, like dagger, Levels, smash, etc..?
Coach, Great stuff! We want to major in this concept this season. When game planning, how do you decide where to put each each concept (boundary side vs. field side)? Thank you!
The fact that you say "this is one of my favourites" for every single concept video just shows how much you love football, great stuff
Imma try to do a bummer play next week now.
What he means by favorite, or so I assume, is that the concept is good vs multiple coverages. That could be 1 or 2 high zone beaters, as well as man beaters. Take double slants (mirrored, meaning the same concept is run on both sides) vs 2-Man. The DB's are aligned with an inside eye shade (b/c their help is deep & to the outside), so that's not the best play call, as JT mentioned. All in-breaking routes vs inside leverage is not really the play you want to be in.
can you include clips of the plays being executed
I could. But it affects the copyright issues of the vid. I guess I could use the HS team I coach.
@@TheQBSchool I wonder if this is legal under fair use? ua-cam.com/video/Ddwp1HyEFRE/v-deo.html . If it is, then you should be able to post clips so long as you are critiquing?
The Dragon Lion Concept is the where you have a teenage boy name your plays.
These play breakdowns are my favorite. Seeing the NFL Terminology is extremely interesting
Thanks for clarifying that Jet is a turnback protection. I know most viewers probably didn't catch that (nor did they probably care), but I'm really into details. There's a whole lot of misinformation out there, especially around Jet protection, so it was great to get a definitive answer. As always, great video!
Awesome stuff!
I love playbook pages!
I like that you mention the Sluggo/slant - go concept. What are your thoughts on a flat and up/wheel route off of this concept?
It seems like if number two has to carry the flat vertical this is a good match up. Seems like there might be a nice hole shot underneath a deep quarter/deep third defender with this double move.
Wheel routes are great! Slant/wheel, even curl/wheel!
Don’t forget at the end of the game on a fourth and need it to run a hitch and pitch (similar to a wheel route. Throw the quick hitch to number one and have him pitch it on the outside like number two or the running back out in the flat running a wheel!)
Every play is JTs favorite
"Welcome to the QB school BFFFFSHHH!!"
Love your videos JT, incredibly informational.
Great breakdown! Thanks for the lesson
Love it JT! Thanks man. Middle of the field open pre snap. Safety roll to middle of the field closed post snap makes it tough for young qbs
Really?
Love these videos, keep em coming
Detroit / Seattle... That's probably what the D and S from your Packers notes meant ;)
I was thinking Deep / Strong. And hence the Open/Closed.
Green bay doesn't play Seattle enough to take them into consideration at the play building level. Esp, not on a slant, which is going to be run vs everybody. If it was Chicago or Minnesota it would make more sense.
@@darkhobo JT explained that when he was in Minnesota with the Vikings, they called these scheme Detroit and Seattle, instead of Dragon and Lion. So I wasn't talking about the Detroit Lions or the Seattle Seahawks, just thinking about the other names ;)
Good spot! Hadn't thought of that. Seems likely, yeah.
@@namzar19 ahh see I've always seen Seattle used as a Double Post. It probrably means MFO run Detroit (slants) MFC run Seattle (posts)
@@namzar19 if you look at the available Denny Green/Brian Billick play books, this just seems to be their lingo. Nothing special, just their terminology.
Billick playbooks seem to be a mixture of the Sid Gilman/Joe Gibbs number system and Westcoast terminology.
The Chiefs have taken the Dragon concept to a new level by using it as a run game tag. Their 2018 home game against Denver they some good success with it.
Good stuff JT! I enjoy your breakdowns. I also enjoy seeing how long the play calls are. Lol My kids could never recall all that. We call this 13 Slant + Tags
Tomorrow I’m meeting with the OC at my HS alma matar to talk about the playbook some more. I’m stealing this.
Slant and speed out is good against cover 3 because you truly get a 2 on 1 with overhang guy who could be playing a curl/flat or hook zone. The corner "should" be bailing in cover 3. In cover 2, slant/speed out is not as good because the corner responsibility is a low flat zone. So now the corner can play the out and the overhang can play the slant. Takes a really accurate and quick release to beat press cover 2 with a slant/speed out.
Takes a bad decision to even throw slant flat vs a cloud corner.
@@TheQBSchool you're right about that. There definitely better options like double slants.
Dragon Lion sounds like some Eastern Mysticism 😁
Good video/Good concept!
JT, you mentioned toward the beginning that both Dragon and Lion are not great vs quarters; what 2x2 quick game concepts do you like against quarters (ideally, but not necessarily, that still leave you with workable answers vs C3, C2, C1, etc)?
We had our receivers turn it into 4 vert concept if we saw open to closed post snap. Slugo/ out and up
Interesting. Tough to go 5 step pass pro that quick. Like idea.
I’m slowly putting together the system I want to run when I can be an offensive coordinator. I really like the idea of split-field passing concepts like you detailed in this video (MOFO side, MOFC side). Is there a way to do it out of a 3x1 formation without motion, or do you need two receivers (2x2 or Empty) to run split-field concepts?
Yes.
Excellent vid JT thank you
Thanks
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Hey I love your channel and I love when you go over pass concepts. I was wondering if you could possibly cover sluggo seam? Thanks for what you are doing I really appreciate these videos.
i love XO’s go Seattle Dragons!
You’re the man
Question: at 5:59 of the video he says he doens't like it agaisnt quarters but end up saying he likes it against MOFO. Isn't quarters MOFO? What does he mean with that? Thanks guys
Because Quarters is a pattern match coverage, so if there isn't a vertical threat by #2 to occupy the safeties, they can play a "robber technique."
He'll look to rob the curl to post of #1, since the CB is playing with outside leverage on #1. Then there's the overhang defender (outside backer, sub package DB) and he's called the match 2 player...that's match 2 shallow, not vertical. VS trips the defense could play Special, which is a Palms check to trips. It's an X-out on #1 to the trips side (CB has #1 in MEG), which leaves the overhang dropper and safety playing Palms/2-read on #2 & #3, but with the x-out on #1...that makes them the new #1 & #2).
In one version from the Vikings, #2 would run the slant, then stem vertical. Now that would remove the safety, so that leaves the CBs playing with outside leverage with no inside help.
Oh, and he said that variation was good against quarters. He just didn't do a breakdown of quarters... it would've been a 3 hour video lol
Hi Mr. O'Sullivan.. Are you familiar with a pass concept where there are twins wr's on one side vs a "2" high look. The (slot wr) runs the 1-2 step slant, but the OUTSIDE Wr, runs a (Five & IN= FIN route).. Is that a new concept? If so, what is it called? Thank you.. Great content
Yes. Called many things. I’m most used to it outta 3•1 with the 2 and the 1 in a triple slant type play. Seen it called many things.
@@TheQBSchool Thank you for reading, and taking the time out to respond to my question. But im trying to figure out if (slot quick slant, followed by outside fin route) have a common name, like dagger, Levels, smash, etc..?
Coach,
Great stuff! We want to major in this concept this season. When game planning, how do you decide where to put each each concept (boundary side vs. field side)?
Thank you!
I would try to mix up. No hard rules IMO
great stuff - can you do more quik game basics???
Like what? Hitches? Maybe I’ll do spacing next.
@@TheQBSchool spacing would be great
In this concept whats the difference between a slant and a post?
DS double high, single high?
How would you run that with a 2x1 set up with 20 personal?
D/S = Double/Single (safety)?
Can you do the Portland concept next
What is that?
It’s basically I deep post on one side and a dig on the other side
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D/S is probrably Deep / Strong.
first.