The BBC apologised after finding that she was subject to bullying and harrasment! What part of that is OK? And why are you not more empathic to another woman who has been brave enough to speak out and has suffered from death threats and rape threats as a result. Also Laura Whitmore has said she put in a complaint about Giovanni and that she knew 6 other women have also. I don't understand why you and other pundits are choosing not to believe these women.
Watch their foxtrot, they almost kissed. I reckon she had feelings for him which were not reciprocated. She could have just left as soon as there was a problem.
That was the first thing I thought of when this came to light...they seemed so amicable when chatting about their progress...I actually thought they were great together and wanted them to win...I am now dubious about the couple chats...maybe the BBC should hone in on the dancing?!
Either way Amanda has behaved disgracefully - making a mountain out of a mole hill - and in public not in private. She should apologise financially to Gio....
Stop talking crap .... who are you ? Were you there ?? No, so quit making out you know everything, you know nothing. Too many old women with wet knickers fawning over the fake Italian guy. Can't see past the BS, so naive.
I'm still watching but I found my self musing if all the gushing afterwards when claudia interviews them is real or just for the cameras. It's such a shame some of the sparkle has gone for me as I am questioning the reality
It's a TV programme. Of course it's all heavily produced and largely scripted. There were other women who had issues with him but didn't come out with it at the time. Just look how Amanda has been treated. So you can see why women stayed silent. Why are they not criticising Pernice in any way? Typical misogyny. The show has had its day anyway.
She is vying for a lawsuit pay out now, it’s muck throwing, he said, she said…confidential?? shes blabbing about most of what happened from her side in the dozens of interviews she’s done, what else is there left to know. Strictly has had its day, too tarnished, too tired.
Pernice was sacked, he was found guilty on 6 counts, 2 sexual, and the whole show has been changed because of his abuse, and the BBC has apologised to Amanda, proof that she was right to speak up. For decades no one spoke up about Jimmy Saville in the BBC and look how bad he was, Amanda is the hero here and like Gisele Pelicot in France she is speaking out for all women, well done Amanda and thank you.
I think Vanessa made very good points about it maybe getting boring after just having been on too long. For me, the sparkle has gone and I just don’t believe the one big happy family vibe anymore.
I feel like there is something wrong at the BBC and their overall complaints precedures and their duty of care and how they dealt with this whole matter. I think Strictly has become too big in many ways and overhyped,I love the dancing and I love the costume and amazing band but I feel like they need to focus more on just the dancing and not be so hyper.They all seem so hyped up,so overexitable all the time and it all feels a bit too affected and maybe its the best show on saturday night by miles because there is so little of any real quality on,I mean Saturday night TV is just terrible generally. Saturday nights use to be the best things back in the day,there would be several great saturday night TV shows,a comedy,music ....just a whole night of great TV. Now its full of awful quiz shows.they need to do much better
Many people dont watch the first show as they can find out who is dancing with whom by watching one of the spoiler sites. I know i did. There are all the other professional dancers who havent been accused of anything, so why should they lose their jobs because of the actions of two dancers?
Vanessa youre are completely right about Toyah, she should've survived Nick Knowles for sure, hes getting famous for his fake excuses now .... same with Im a celeb.
The viewing figures are like for like, with iplayer added this weeks ratings were 8 million. The media are just using overnights, and not online figures, cos is make for a better story.
Seems Vanessa isn’t aware of him emphasising his groin to Amanda. I feel the kind of lady Vanessa is she’d think that wasn’t acceptable.Vanessa hasn’t got the full facts of this report when she’s done this.
As far as I'm aware, Tasha's dance experience is ballet, which is a completely different discipline to ballroom dancing. It is very rare that ballet dancers are good at ballroom dancing and vice versa.
@@allisoncowley2852what??? Remember who onthe judges was? Darcy Bussell, a ballerina . My God posture is majorly important in both ballroom and Latin dancing
Toyah got stuck with the worse teacher choreographer in strictly neil jones should never have been given a partner kia or the chinese guy so sorry l cant remember his name would have brought the best out of Toyah because she has got the stamina in her and could have gone far with a different partner neil is not good all he did was dance around Toyah not with her he told us with wide eyes there is going to be a story in theif dance ....sorry neil there should be but what was your story the dancer who came back forget his name too gets a partner too a good partner he left saying BBC did not look after the pros comes back gets a partner sorry Kai and the chi ese guy should have got Toyah and the beautiful lady who is partly deaf neil has been lucky to get another year with strictly IMO when he does get a partner he is first or second out....bring Giovanni back❤x❤
I didn’t like how he had Toyah writhing along the top of the bar. He should have choreographed a proper jive to bring the best out in her. Apparently it was him who told her to do all the crazy head shaking the previous week that the judges didn’t like. She’s so enthusiastic and could do so well.
I find Toyah incredibly annoying, she’s not representing me as an older woman, she did however draw the short straw with Neil I find him annoying too 🙄
The BBC would not have upheld the 50% of allegations Amanda made and apologised, if there was no truth in them. I hate how some women throw other women under the bus, without any real evidence. Amanda has received death threats and threats to her 15yr old daughter!! Think before you speak on these platforms. Also, Amanda has the back up of previous dance partners of Giovani Pernichi. Vanessa, you’ve gone down in my estimation, I thought you were more empathetic, and can’t believe that you’re throwing Amanda under the bus for what has been accepted by the BBC as unacceptable behaviour by GP.
The BBC apologised after finding that she was subject to bullying and harrasment! What part of that is OK? And why are you not more empathic to another woman who has been brave enough to speak out and has suffered from death threats and rape threats as a result.
Also Laura Whitmore has said she put in a complaint about Giovanni and that she knew 6 other women have also.
I don't understand why you and other pundits are choosing not to believe these women.
People apologize all the time to get complainants off their backs.
Watch their foxtrot, they almost kissed. I reckon she had feelings for him which were not reciprocated. She could have just left as soon as there was a problem.
Amanda is the problem not Gio
That was the first thing I thought of when this came to light...they seemed so amicable when chatting about their progress...I actually thought they were great together and wanted them to win...I am now dubious about the couple chats...maybe the BBC should hone in on the dancing?!
Loved this round up! Vanessa has so many friends she always brings the tea ☕❤💃🏿🕺🪩
The vindicated actions apparently were, harassment and verbal bullying by giovarni
And some!
Either way Amanda has behaved disgracefully - making a mountain out of a mole hill - and in public not in private. She should apologise financially to Gio....
Stop talking crap .... who are you ? Were you there ?? No, so quit making out you know everything, you know nothing. Too many old women with wet knickers fawning over the fake Italian guy. Can't see past the BS, so naive.
I'm still watching but I found my self musing if all the gushing afterwards when claudia interviews them is real or just for the cameras. It's such a shame some of the sparkle has gone for me as I am questioning the reality
Don’t let one person’s negative experience spoil the fun for you.
It's a TV programme. Of course it's all heavily produced and largely scripted. There were other women who had issues with him but didn't come out with it at the time. Just look how Amanda has been treated. So you can see why women stayed silent. Why are they not criticising Pernice in any way? Typical misogyny. The show has had its day anyway.
@@sisterrosetta57 Amanda is a liar and will make it harder for real abuse victims to be believed.
Great observations, Vanessa.
I love this video, Vanessa telling it like it is🤓✨🩷
Strictly for me is more of a popularity show than a better dancer show
She is vying for a lawsuit pay out now, it’s muck throwing, he said, she said…confidential?? shes blabbing about most of what happened from her side in the dozens of interviews she’s done, what else is there left to know. Strictly has had its day, too tarnished, too tired.
Pernice was sacked, he was found guilty on 6 counts, 2 sexual, and the whole show has been changed because of his abuse, and the BBC has apologised to Amanda, proof that she was right to speak up. For decades no one spoke up about Jimmy Saville in the BBC and look how bad he was, Amanda is the hero here and like Gisele Pelicot in France she is speaking out for all women, well done Amanda and thank you.
You go around lying under every video. Amanda is a narcissist that is why she can not move on. Plus she wants money from the BBC.
He didn’t have his contract renewed.
@@cathhurrell7811 well whatever really he’s gone
@@Starrysky-e1itry facts
I think Vanessa made very good points about it maybe getting boring after just having been on too long. For me, the sparkle has gone and I just don’t believe the one big happy family vibe anymore.
Sometimes people can make a smoke by creating a fire
I feel like there is something wrong at the BBC and their overall complaints precedures and their duty of care and how they dealt with this whole matter.
I think Strictly has become too big in many ways and overhyped,I love the dancing and I love the costume and amazing band but I feel like they need to focus more on just the dancing and not be so hyper.They all seem so hyped up,so overexitable all the time and it all feels a bit too affected and maybe its the best show on saturday night by miles because there is so little of any real quality on,I mean Saturday night TV is just terrible generally.
Saturday nights use to be the best things back in the day,there would be several great saturday night TV shows,a comedy,music ....just a whole night of great TV.
Now its full of awful quiz shows.they need to do much better
Many people dont watch the first show as they can find out who is dancing with whom by watching one of the spoiler sites. I know i did. There are all the other professional dancers who havent been accused of anything, so why should they lose their jobs because of the actions of two dancers?
Vanessa youre are completely right about Toyah, she should've survived Nick Knowles for sure, hes getting famous for his fake excuses now .... same with Im a celeb.
I love Vanessa. She got common sense .
She was biased Toyah being her friend.
Amanda wants to keep the publicity she’s had .let go woman get on with your life. We aren’t bothered…
Unless you've been bullied you cannot comment honestly
The viewing figures are like for like, with iplayer added this weeks ratings were 8 million. The media are just using overnights, and not online figures, cos is make for a better story.
Ig Vanessa didn’t watch the swimming at Paris then hh- maybe have had a different opinion of Tom if she had.
I can’t listen to what she’s saying as distracted by her visible extensions in the mirror !
Seems Vanessa isn’t aware of him emphasising his groin to Amanda. I feel the kind of lady Vanessa is she’d think that wasn’t acceptable.Vanessa hasn’t got the full facts of this report when she’s done this.
Have you seen the dances on the show. I don't think Amanda got any special groin treatment ......seriously 😕!!
As she said, everything is confidential, so the only people who have the full facts are those involved in the case.
@@amandajoyce6619 she said he got a hard in and showed her whenever she got the dance moves right. That's not normal . He's definitely inappropriate
No way should Toyah outlast Nick Knowles. And Tasha won't win because of her previous dance experience.
As far as I'm aware, Tasha's dance experience is ballet, which is a completely different discipline to ballroom dancing. It is very rare that ballet dancers are good at ballroom dancing and vice versa.
Toyah was way better than Nick ... more energy, more footwork everything. She got a rubbish partner, as Neil's choreography is terrible.
@@allisoncowley2852what??? Remember who onthe judges was? Darcy Bussell, a ballerina . My God posture is majorly important in both ballroom and Latin dancing
Strictly way past its sell by date. On a personal level I don’t know anyone who watches
There's no smoke without fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
You can start your own fire....
Cancel culture 🤨
I just don't watch any more, sadly. Spoiled for most now.....
Toyah got stuck with the worse teacher choreographer in strictly neil jones should never have been given a partner kia or the chinese guy so sorry l cant remember his name would have brought the best out of Toyah because she has got the stamina in her and could have gone far with a different partner neil is not good all he did was dance around Toyah not with her he told us with wide eyes there is going to be a story in theif dance ....sorry neil there should be but what was your story the dancer who came back forget his name too gets a partner too a good partner he left saying BBC did not look after the pros comes back gets a partner sorry Kai and the chi ese guy should have got Toyah and the beautiful lady who is partly deaf neil has been lucky to get another year with strictly IMO when he does get a partner he is first or second out....bring Giovanni back❤x❤
I didn’t like how he had Toyah writhing along the top of the bar. He should have choreographed a proper jive to bring the best out in her. Apparently it was him who told her to do all the crazy head shaking the previous week that the judges didn’t like. She’s so enthusiastic and could do so well.
Carlos Gu is his name, he was my favourite pro.😢
I find Toyah incredibly annoying, she’s not representing me as an older woman, she did however draw the short straw with Neil I find him annoying too 🙄
They are called Carlos Gu and Aljaẓ̌ Škorjanec.
Toyah Wilcox was rubbish and as for the bully coming back he'll will freeze over.
Phelps is boring!!!!
FELTZ
Boring ..
The BBC would not have upheld the 50% of allegations Amanda made and apologised, if there was no truth in them. I hate how some women throw other women under the bus, without any real evidence. Amanda has received death threats and threats to her 15yr old daughter!! Think before you speak on these platforms. Also, Amanda has the back up of previous dance partners of Giovani Pernichi. Vanessa, you’ve gone down in my estimation, I thought you were more empathetic, and can’t believe that you’re throwing Amanda under the bus for what has been accepted by the BBC as unacceptable behaviour by GP.
They didn't uphold 50%. They upheld 6 minor ones and dismissed 11 serious allegations. Amanda is a liar and is wanting money from the BBC.