I watched this yesterday and literally received a Silca Ti Torque wrench yesterday and the ratchet mech is plastic and skips occasionally straight out of the box at torques as low as 4-5Nm, so I immediately returned and bought this one! Thanks
I wonder how this Feedback Sports model compares to the Effetto Mariposa line of torque wrenches. Effetto sort of promote that as a very premium and accurate mini torque wrench. Would love to see all these different models (including some of the fixed value wrenches) go up against your new Torque Test Machine of Truth (tm).
I will agree that I think other brands have outlasted most of the Park tools that I have in my shop. The best small torque wrench I've had and still use is a Pedro's, and will admit that I like the softer case for more protection. The Pedro's torque wrench is also a "click" model and I've used it for years, with no difference in sound of click or "feel" of the click. Repair stands: for the mobile portion of the business, the Park stand I have far outlasted the more recent Feedback Sports stand, and that was a very quick, hard lesson. It's always great to hear other suggestions on choices as well. Thanks for sharing!
I bought a Lexivon torque wrench about a year ago and ended up immediately returning it because I wasn't getting that click. I actually couldn't tell when i was hitting the correct torque. I went with a Vibrelli torque wrench instead and it's much better. But now seeing this one I might end up getting this because of how compact it is. Update: nevermind $120 is a little too rich for my blood, lol.
Cool, if I had not recently purchased the Unior (1-20nm) torque wrench, I would pick this one up - cheaper and has those extension. Looks awesome! Great review as always,
I went to my local bike shop that had the German brand named "wera tools". Daang!! I tried it out coz the owner knows im a tool nerd and Im super jealous.
I've never come across a single bike shop in my country that uses industrial-grade torque tools. It's either a Chinese or Taiwanese brand, Park Tool or any cycling-related brand.
I have the original feedback torque wrench and it has been a really useful took, it is a little finicky. This little company makes great products worth owning
In your "does torque grip matter" video can you answer as well what happens if you accidentally left your torque wrench set to 5Nm instead of resetting? Asking for a friend.
If a torque wrench's internals are constantly under tension, its accuracy will run off. Therefore, even if it indicates like, say, 5 Nm, the actual torque value will be higher than this. This is exactly what happened to one shop's torque wrench and it ran out-of-spec in just a few months. Mine has been in service since October 2020 and is still in-spec to this day. That out-of-spec torque wrench in question? It's an Effetto Mariposa Giustaforza 2-16, a very expensive Italian torque wrench. Stahlwille's mechanical torque wrenches are one of the only, if not the only, analogue torque wrenches that don't require the user to reset them back to their lowest torque setting thanks to a wear-resistant trigger system with a flexible rod. Look up "stahlwille flexible rod principle" to see how it works.
I really wanted to buy this compact torque wrench, but at $120, it's just out of my reach. I guess I'll stick with my old Spin Doctor torque wrench for now.
I'm sure this is a great wrench, and I love torque tools, but 14 nm is way too low for a shop tool. My torque multi-tool that goes in my top tube bag goes up to 10 (not clicky, sadly). And my rear axles all require 25. I remove the rear wheel every time I deep clean the bike, which I'm doing after pretty much every long ride considering how muddy it is right now, here in NorCal.
The 12-30Nm range is kind of a dead zone as far as torque specs. There’s aren’t too many cases where you need that range. I keep a big one around (Tekton) for when I need the 40+ nm specs like some bbs and crank arms
Bike specific brands are only viable for bike specific tools like bottom bracket sockets, spoke tension meters and hydraulic brake tools. Get a Wera or some other quality tool brand.
Dude, now that you have 7 months experience on that little torque wrench, how do you like it now? Can it be used with standard 1/4" sockets? I am considering getting one. Motorcycle tech guy here. Need an ultra low range wrench.... Was considering the Park until,.....what no click?
I dont like the small park tool torque wrench, at the shop i work part time at, we have 6 of them, there is a couple that dont click.. drives me nuts... i bought a Wera torque wrench ..
@@TheBikeSauce yeah, I love the satisfying click it gives. I bought the bike version that had a nice soft case and included bits.. the new feedback wrench looks great for getting into tight places though
Can this tool be used to loosen things when it's at it's reset setting? Or is it primarily just for tightening? I have a prestacycle ratchet torque tool which is like a beam type and I can use it for loosening and tightening, but reading off the display can be awkward, so considering getting this too, but if I need to switch between tools I when loosening and tightening I might just reconsider. EDIT: I'll answer my own question. Their video suggests it can't be used to loosen it.
Torque tools should never be used to loosen any fastener, with the exception of Prestacycle's TorqKeys (do not use to loosen stubborn fasteners). Just use a regular hex or Torx tool to loosen.
Tekton TRQ21101: $60, bigger range, better design, better case. With the extra $60 you can buy a set of useful long socket bits, normal socket bits, and have about $20 left. Im not saying the feedback is a bad tool, but it is literally double what it should cost. Loose bits are crap. They're incredibly cheap, almost always crappy metal, and they're a filler part to make it look like your overpriced wrench was a good deal. Stop using them in your home shop unless you love unnecessary annoyance when they inevitably fall on the floor while you're trying to use them. Get a set of socket bits that match the drive size of each of your torque wrenches and you'll be a happier wrencher for thr rest of your life. Feedback stands have been the home gamer gold standard for a decade, but no one ever called them inexpensive. No reason to go with this torque tool, however.
I’ve got a couple tektons for heavier duty stuff. They aren’t bad. This one you mentioned is as big as the park and the Nm scale is a converted in-lb scale so it’s not intuitive. Not sure what you mean about loose bits; is a magnetic head which holds them in place nicely
I'm looking forward to seeing comparisons especially with non bicycle specific wrenches and cheaper ones as well. Bicycle specific tools always seem like they cost more than they really should when compared to say the auto industry imho.
Feedback sports tools are made AND designed AND quality controlled in china. No thanks. The torque tester made in china. If you are working on a Schwinn then you are good to go
Unfortunately long term quality and precision is compromised greatly with Chinese products. When new or only slightly used the calibration may hold, but almost never will a Chinese product hold long term
Us, OCD folks need that clickety gratification of knowing every bolt touched is to recommended spec. That click is everything Park Tools!
I watched this yesterday and literally received a Silca Ti Torque wrench yesterday and the ratchet mech is plastic and skips occasionally straight out of the box at torques as low as 4-5Nm, so I immediately returned and bought this one! Thanks
FYI, the Scott Spark 2020 model has a reversed 10 NM shock mount bolt with a T30 head. ;)
I wonder how this Feedback Sports model compares to the Effetto Mariposa line of torque wrenches. Effetto sort of promote that as a very premium and accurate mini torque wrench. Would love to see all these different models (including some of the fixed value wrenches) go up against your new Torque Test Machine of Truth (tm).
Haha. I’ll test as many as I can, cost permitting..
@@TheBikeSauce i'll let you borrow my venzo 2-24nm kit if you want.
I will agree that I think other brands have outlasted most of the Park tools that I have in my shop. The best small torque wrench I've had and still use is a Pedro's, and will admit that I like the softer case for more protection. The Pedro's torque wrench is also a "click" model and I've used it for years, with no difference in sound of click or "feel" of the click. Repair stands: for the mobile portion of the business, the Park stand I have far outlasted the more recent Feedback Sports stand, and that was a very quick, hard lesson. It's always great to hear other suggestions on choices as well. Thanks for sharing!
I bought a Lexivon torque wrench about a year ago and ended up immediately returning it because I wasn't getting that click. I actually couldn't tell when i was hitting the correct torque. I went with a Vibrelli torque wrench instead and it's much better. But now seeing this one I might end up getting this because of how compact it is. Update: nevermind $120 is a little too rich for my blood, lol.
Cool, if I had not recently purchased the Unior (1-20nm) torque wrench, I would pick this one up - cheaper and has those extension. Looks awesome! Great review as always,
I went to my local bike shop that had the German brand named "wera tools". Daang!! I tried it out coz the owner knows im a tool nerd and Im super jealous.
I've never come across a single bike shop in my country that uses industrial-grade torque tools. It's either a Chinese or Taiwanese brand, Park Tool or any cycling-related brand.
I have the original feedback torque wrench and it has been a really useful took, it is a little finicky. This little company makes great products worth owning
Happy Holidays my friend, best wishes for the new year!
More “nerds only” videos? I’m in!
In your "does torque grip matter" video can you answer as well what happens if you accidentally left your torque wrench set to 5Nm instead of resetting? Asking for a friend.
haha good question
If a torque wrench's internals are constantly under tension, its accuracy will run off. Therefore, even if it indicates like, say, 5 Nm, the actual torque value will be higher than this. This is exactly what happened to one shop's torque wrench and it ran out-of-spec in just a few months. Mine has been in service since October 2020 and is still in-spec to this day.
That out-of-spec torque wrench in question? It's an Effetto Mariposa Giustaforza 2-16, a very expensive Italian torque wrench.
Stahlwille's mechanical torque wrenches are one of the only, if not the only, analogue torque wrenches that don't require the user to reset them back to their lowest torque setting thanks to a wear-resistant trigger system with a flexible rod. Look up "stahlwille flexible rod principle" to see how it works.
I really wanted to buy this compact torque wrench, but at $120, it's just out of my reach. I guess I'll stick with my old Spin Doctor torque wrench for now.
Tekton TRQ21101 + socket bits of your choosing from your local big box. Nuff Said.
Or get china made sht
Happy Holidays Nolan .
I'm sure this is a great wrench, and I love torque tools, but 14 nm is way too low for a shop tool. My torque multi-tool that goes in my top tube bag goes up to 10 (not clicky, sadly). And my rear axles all require 25. I remove the rear wheel every time I deep clean the bike, which I'm doing after pretty much every long ride considering how muddy it is right now, here in NorCal.
25Nm??? You got grade 8 axles or something? Anyways most ppl will have a low and high range torque wrench, eg 2-14 and a 20+Nm tool.
@@TheBikeSaucewhat torque wrench do you like for the 20nM range?
The 12-30Nm range is kind of a dead zone as far as torque specs. There’s aren’t too many cases where you need that range. I keep a big one around (Tekton) for when I need the 40+ nm specs like some bbs and crank arms
Bike specific brands are only viable for bike specific tools like bottom bracket sockets, spoke tension meters and hydraulic brake tools. Get a Wera or some other quality tool brand.
Dude, now that you have 7 months experience on that little torque wrench, how do you like it now?
Can it be used with standard 1/4" sockets?
I am considering getting one. Motorcycle tech guy here. Need an ultra low range wrench....
Was considering the Park until,.....what no click?
I dont like the small park tool torque wrench, at the shop i work part time at, we have 6 of them, there is a couple that dont click.. drives me nuts... i bought a Wera torque wrench ..
Nice. Wera stuff is premium
@@TheBikeSauce yeah, I love the satisfying click it gives. I bought the bike version that had a nice soft case and included bits.. the new feedback wrench looks great for getting into tight places though
Can this tool be used to loosen things when it's at it's reset setting? Or is it primarily just for tightening? I have a prestacycle ratchet torque tool which is like a beam type and I can use it for loosening and tightening, but reading off the display can be awkward, so considering getting this too, but if I need to switch between tools I when loosening and tightening I might just reconsider.
EDIT: I'll answer my own question. Their video suggests it can't be used to loosen it.
Torque tools should never be used to loosen any fastener, with the exception of Prestacycle's TorqKeys (do not use to loosen stubborn fasteners). Just use a regular hex or Torx tool to loosen.
but it does not do 0.1 nm increments. so not perfect for me.
Me with my park tools tw-1.2 beam torque wrench….
Low tech wins!
yea its like $120 eh.. for those wondering..
Tekton TRQ21101: $60, bigger range, better design, better case. With the extra $60 you can buy a set of useful long socket bits, normal socket bits, and have about $20 left.
Im not saying the feedback is a bad tool, but it is literally double what it should cost.
Loose bits are crap. They're incredibly cheap, almost always crappy metal, and they're a filler part to make it look like your overpriced wrench was a good deal. Stop using them in your home shop unless you love unnecessary annoyance when they inevitably fall on the floor while you're trying to use them. Get a set of socket bits that match the drive size of each of your torque wrenches and you'll be a happier wrencher for thr rest of your life.
Feedback stands have been the home gamer gold standard for a decade, but no one ever called them inexpensive. No reason to go with this torque tool, however.
I’ve got a couple tektons for heavier duty stuff. They aren’t bad. This one you mentioned is as big as the park and the Nm scale is a converted in-lb scale so it’s not intuitive. Not sure what you mean about loose bits; is a magnetic head which holds them in place nicely
Lol what? "Our clicking torque wrench doesn't click. This is acceptable."
A future video of a torque meter? That is real click bait.
I'm looking forward to seeing comparisons especially with non bicycle specific wrenches and cheaper ones as well. Bicycle specific tools always seem like they cost more than they really should when compared to say the auto industry imho.
I’ve been blessed with a torque meter built into my wrist.😂
Does it click at 5Nm?
China made torque tester
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sounds like there were more cons than things you did like
Feedback sports tools are made AND designed AND quality controlled in china. No thanks. The torque tester made in china. If you are working on a Schwinn then you are good to go
Fortunately, science will allow us to validate the accuracy of the torque meter, regardless of its origin 🙌
Unfortunately long term quality and precision is compromised greatly with Chinese products. When new or only slightly used the calibration may hold, but almost never will a Chinese product hold long term
@@tl924#showmeyourdata
@@tl924 And how exactly would you know this other than simply making an unfounded claim?