Meet The Man Who Brought Down The Biggest Korean Sex Cult (JMS)
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0:00 - Intro
1:28 - Why intelligent Koreans fall for cults?
3:28 - How did you know about JMS?
4:44 - Appearance on Netflix documentary about Korean cults
6:58 - How big is the JMS cult?
8:51 - Do you feel like your life is in danger?
10:45 - First impression of cult leader Jung Myung Seok
11:48 - How did the cult grow and recruit members?
13:56 - Impact of the Netflix documentary ‘In the Name of God: A Holy Betrayal
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I think it’s also helpful if you would share the Netflix series about major cults in Korea in case anyone wants to look further, they know where to go. Btw, the series’s “In the name of God”.
is free speech/press dying?
@@mariners_plattereach platform makes their own rules..incl UA-cam aka Google. They could upload it but it would be rapidly removed
Thank You, @AsianBoss , for your reporting on this and many important issues 🕊
This man is very brave to speak so openly about a topic like this. "In all my life I've never met anyone with a worse first impression as him." "Nasty," "repulsive," "wrapped in snakes," I hope he keeps saying such brutally honest things and having a platform to say them on.
I lived in Korea for 2 years from 2008 to 2010. There is a 6th sense Koreans call Nunchi. Professor Kim surely has this gift to be able to see that man for what he truly is. Much respect for Professor Kim for standing with the victims and the work he has done to bring that evil man to justice. He's a hero indeed!
You right! I got goosebumps when he say that. That's must be hard for him to hear what JMS said
You know, throughout my life I've heard countless stories about awful things happening all around the world. And I usually just accepted that "well, some people are awful" and moved on with a heavy heart. But it takes a special kind of person to be the first to resist something this big and evil.
This man encountered a cult that nobody had resisted openly at that time and instead of distancing himself to seek safety, he spent 27 years facing against it. He did this not for money or any personal gain, yet he still dedicated his life to abolish something that hurt others. I find it truly beautiful that there are people on this Earth that can stand up for others in this way, despite how short our lifespans are. And despite how divided we can be, I hope all of us can get inspired by his journey and get together to put a stop to the nightmares he described.
P.S I love how calm and soft his voice is, it's really telling of his personality but it's also devastating that he can talk about such horrors as if he's accustomed to them. Humanity truly is cruel. I pray that the victims can find peace.
"Many smart people involved to such activities are due to arrogance" --> sadly, this is true
"It's arrogance"... Wow both you and that guy don't know anything about magical thinking and the lack of scientific method mindset affecting society all over the world
@@markmuller7962Hahahaha, no
“The scientific method” ah yes, the one where the brightest minds of today fake medical studies to placate the highest-bidding lobbyists? I’d rather go to a sex cult.
@@markmuller7962clueless
No, disagree. When your religious, its just the same as using your heart over mind thus you don't really take time to think whether the actions of your leaders, preachers and fellow members of the organization are beyond moral religious belief
Thank you for taking the time interview this courageous man, I wish I could send more but like most people I am struggling financially this year (unemployment and health issues really have taken toll on me, but thank God I got enough to survive). Keep up the great work, your hard work is even noticed from down under (NZ) 👏 your videos are always educational, entertaining & inspirational~
Ppl, as soon as someone starts saying they are Jesus or the messiah, it's a cult. Plain and simple.
Thank you for bringing attention to this horrible cult and their disgusting leader. Hopefully this video will be seen by a lot of people, including those who are not able to see the Netflix documentary.
The bell is always on Asian Boss from your previous message to viewers.
This story does not disappoint, thank you to the Asian Boss channel for bringing this story to more eyes, and for Kim Do-hyeong for his courage and morality in confronting a cult head on.
I understand what this gentleman is saying, and I'm very thankful for his courage to talk about this openly. However, cult behaviour is more complex than just being too arrogant to leave it. Cult behaviour has nothing to do with being smart; it has to do with a more emotional and spiritual aspect. Cult leaders are manipulators and psychopaths and tend to be very good at pinpointing people's vulnerabilities and using them to their own benefit. They create a codependent relationship in which they use fear and control over their followers.
before he mentioned arrogance, he said that he wouldn't mention all his opinions on the subject. There's more than one reason in his opinion
yes true. I think the true translation would be losing face aka admitting youre wrong and its a big humiliation even knowing its wrong
@@S1mmhi i know exactly what he wanted to say. its because korea is atheist so they are more prone to fall for cults. (e.g. you did not grow up with religion but suddenly a cult welcomes you with open arms and gives you a 'loving' community). but everyone would reply all religions are cults which is why he didn't want to start a whole debate.
It's appalling that JMS continued/continues to abuse women even after Jung was put in prison. Thank you for interviewing the legendary Kim Do-hyeong himself about the fight against the JMS cult. He and his family have sacrificed a lot to help victims get justice.
good job Stephen park no one had the guts to tackle this topic deeper this solid video
Check out an interview with a JMS survivor on Cults to Consciousness.
I feel that some of his explanations are too simplistic. It's not just pride & arrogance. It's because people are social animals. They long for a community to belong to & fear of being abandoned. Many/most people have mental/psychological issues, which causes them to need something to feel needed & have some purpose in a community. Some people (cult leaders) are very good at exploiting these psychological vulnerabilities by creating a community and target vulnerable people to join them. They use tactics to draw these people in, and slowly get them to invest (both time & money) in the community. And the fallacy of sunk costs makes it hard for people to walk away from investments they have made. And the more they invest into this community that is welcoming them, they more difficult it becomes to walk away. It's a cycle of psychological capture, a form of social engineering.
Whatever you wrote, your words truly described how the cult members get recruited and why they joined them. You summed up my whole expereince of how i was recruited by one cult group called, WMSCOG ( world mission society church of God). Thank God im out of it now😅
I wouldn't say that most of these people have psychological issues. A normal person can very well fall into a cult very easily. They could just feel a little lonely in life, they've just moved to a new place and are wanting to find friends, they're dealing with a loss of a loved one...etc. That's a very big misconception that most have mental/psychological issues. Most are just regular people.
True. This is how i felt when church members gathered together. They love the atmosphere of community there and detest anyone saying anything bad against the community. They will instead ignore all the red flags and retaliate against the victims.
This is why i stay far away from churches even though i spent most of my childhood in methodist schools.
Along that the magical thinking (a religion's vestige) and a severe lack of scientific method mindset affecting society
@@moon_0207Please define "Normal person".
1 figure for you: About 4 to 7% of the population is affected by ADHD, only 2 out of 10 of them are diagnosed/aware.
A similar situation with ASD (Autism), especially undiagnosed woman.
OCD has a similar problem of a large undiagnosed population.
And that's just 3 neurological disorders, not counting the hundreds more and all the psychological disorders/illnesses... Even just these 3 NDs you have *Hundreds of millions of unaware and struggling individuals seeking some form of confort*
아시안보스에서 이 주제를 다뤄주셔서 감사합니다! 교수님께서 정의를 위해 나서주셔서 더 큰 관심을 가질 수 있었습니다 응원합니다
Cults to Consciousness has an interview with a young woman who was in this cult. I believe she is Australian, and her mother hired a deprogrammer to get the young woman out of JMS' clutches.
I have to go look into this Netflix documentary to know more about the JMS. Great work Steve 👏🏼
@ 11:22 This guy has the ability to discern or choose what is true and right and what is false and wrong. He has the gift of discernment which synonymous with the ability to think biblically.
I love Asian Boss! Thank you!
Well done on an excellent interview. This was very captivating. So much that I need to go watch the documentary now.
Thanks to this man that is talking about it and asian boss who helps to spread the story because many people need to know
The strength it takes to do all this is mind blowing. What an upstanding citizen he is !!
Thank you so much for doing what you do. 🎉❤
I tried to watch the documentary a few months ago, but I couldn't. It was too harsh and disgusting to keep watching.
One fine day i was taking seoul subway to my office..one old lady was standing near my seat... my office is on next stop so i gave her seat..she was like what a pretty girl you are so kind and so on..then got my number and told she also working near my office...we met for a lunch she was too kind we became really close...one day she introduced young lady to me...she was pretty and kind..we used to go for dinner and cafe...she told I am so interested in psychology personality test and stuff let's meet in a cafe weekly once and do like self improvement test...i was interested too...but after some days...she confessed to me that she and that grandma that i met in train is from shincheonji(one of the cult religion in korea) but i never knew how serious is this issue..i was like so what..that doesn't matter to me unless you compul me to follow something...but that grandma started acting weird she was like follow whatever that young lady tell you...that would be really helpful for your life...if you follow her activities you can change into a real korea( i was like whattttt???) I realized it's something weird....one day that young sister called me for a dinner...and suddenly taken out her laptop for bible seminar that i never wanted....she even wanted my sign...okay...told my other normal friends and colleagues about this...they were like..block them immediately...it's a dangerous cult religion stop meeting them...that's how i stepped out of this nonsense...They target kind and lonely people..even the foreigners..cause we could be easy target..we don't have friends are family here..so we move easily...it's creepy how people plan all these...in modern days they start like cafe meeting and stuff..wonder why would this young and good-looking people give up on their life and go behind cult...
That sounds really similar to an experience I had. I was walking to get some coffee and someone spoke to me in Korean asking if I wanted to fill out a survey to help build a “goal setting” app. I answered some basic questions then he asked me if I would be willing to answer some more detailed questions later that week at a cafe. Figured it was a good opportunity to practice Korean so agreed. I told this story to my friend and she’s like “be super careful, this sounds a lot like a cult. Don’t give him your phone number”. I decided to meet with him anyway and he started asking about my personal goals and psychological questions out of some weird questionnaire like thing. He seemed kinda nervous the entire time too. The entire thing was really awkward and there was a certain point I thought “I should get outa here” so I told him I was uncomfortable, bailed, then immediately blocked him on Kakaotalk. I was never 100% sure if I acted too rashly… whether he was just a regular person. But reading your story it sounds like I made the right choice. Glad you got out of it too.
I go do my Laundry at 6AM when the laundromat automatic doors open electronically. The reason being is there are no homeless beggars and less people except occasional senior citizens washing. Anyways I was chilling in the bench seats and around 7am a pair of what I think are Jehovas witnesses show up a young lady and an older lady. They tried to engage me and was read a quick scripture. I told them I only listen to sermons on podcasts and don't really impose my beliefs onto others. I got some creepy vibes off them. I could see how a weak minded person gets pulled into cults, thankfully I am conscious enough to read sales pitches.
I think this guy is a hero! Thank you for shedding light on this darkness!!!💗
Many people ask "If God is a loving God, why would He send anyone to Hell?"
He doesn't, they send themselves to Hell. They have free will, they choose to sin. Lovers of themselves.
Its sickening that this so callrd "church" CULT still exists & such abuse continues to takes place, ruining young girls lives. All under the guise of a church. Tragic, sad, & downright evil.
MANY THANKS ASIAN BOSS FOR GREAT REPORTING AS USUAL!!!💞
What kind of parents would punish their children with eternal fire? Not a good parent, that's for sure.
This is a man who has a good head on his shoulders. Kudos to him and to everyone behind this interview.
Whoa...that was intense, but I'm so glad I watched the entire thing. I've been seeing some of the younger Korean generation beginning to wise up and have reacted to watching parts of the Netflix special. They were appalled that such evil could come from a member of their own homeland. Nowadays I see and hear Korean UA-camrs warn foreign travellers about any "friendly" strangers approaching them, but not all friendly Korean people are bad.
thanks for making a video about this. I'm now watching the netflix series about it.
Great work.
Thank you Asian Boss for addressing this topic, so controversial and happening around the world.
I am impressed with the effort that Professor Kim Do-hydro g works to bring out the truth, for everyone to see, this type of social problem.
A pleasure to listen to this interview.
Please never stop investigating. Thank you Asian Boss, Thank you Professor Kim Do-hyeong,
I would appreciate it if Asian Boss could create a new video about Shincheonji, a controversial cult from Korea. Despite losing popularity during the pandemic, they are now actively recruiting foreigners worldwide. I am particularly concerned about their targeting and infiltration of the black community. One of the head instructors of SCJ was interviewed by Asian Boss, who is actually a villain causing trouble in a country in Africa.
woww very informative video! love. it
Im curious about the doc now. Its unfortunate that ya cant give a full, indepth report on global news to UA-cam channel anymore... Best of luck to this guy, and respect to Maple & Amy for having the courage when others didn't
Imagine being recruited by an attractive educated Korean gal and thinking they liked you not knowing the gal was from JMS. Korea has too many cults.
Simply, it's called "grooming." (That's the term we use in the States.)
We can't really tell that's impossible that no govt official or employee isn't involved in every cult that's still existing. 🤔
I watched the episode in netflix 4 months ago, it was the sickening docu I've watched, that I had to paused for days to watch the next episode because I can't take all the actions and situations of the victims. For the people who hasn't watch it yet, prepare your mind and emotions.
I think the world took a small breath of relief when this cult leader was finally imprisoned. @AsianBoss, thank you for doing this important interview. I have huge respect for the Professor's unwavering efforts in fighting such a destructive force.
Unfortunately, the cult leader built a massive, influential infrastructure around his destructive ideologies.
And there are likely people who are still trapped, consciously or unconsciously, in that belief system.
It will take years before those misguided ideas lose traction and become less influential. Let's hope that these lessons help more people become better aware when committing to ideology.
Thank you, Asian Boss
The moonies tried to recruit me when I was in college years ago in the states. It wasn’t a sex cult, but they were odd.
@inquisitvem6723 It used to be a sex cult because of the pikareum thing. Like purifying the womb coz they have to complete three stages for their "pure blood lineage". They behave oddly because they were honed to be that way. The rigid rules affects their mind and behavior.There was no autonomy. I used to love someone from that group but then he believes that I will be the cause of his "fall".
I’ve watched stephanie soo’s vid of this and i was shocked with the infos
Sadly, there are cults everywhere.
Don’t forget Shicheonji…but JMS is awful for turning girls into brides and escorts for the cult leader smh
8:08 👀 protect this man!! They are still out there
God bless him and keep him safe❤ such courageous man to speak up . Thank you
I know this is a serious issue worldwide and I'm not making light of it when I say "if this man isn't married this lady from South Africa can fill that space :)." Seriously though he is a hero a true champion an inspiration for many who are working against sexual abuse of women and children globally. We are motivated and encouraged to keep fighting the good fight. He is in our prayers.
The most infamous is surely Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church. Have you done an episode on them yet?
@DanielWayShadow Right and JMS leader used to be a member of that organized crime group (UC). Moon also abused some of his followers and gained so much money and power through spiritual markting. There is nothing wrong with being religious but if they regulate your mind and behavior which affects your livelihood, the society and people around you then think thrice. Its hard to break free because others are born into it.
How disturbing. And how lucky we are that he has persevered. ❤
This ia crazy - i can't believe a close one of mine actually fell into this cult.
A courageous man. The one and only true God will bless him for revealing the falseness in these cults.
Being intelligent does not make you immune to falling into a cult.
YES THIS CASE IS GETTING ATTENTION
Korea has too many mega churches and very conservative Christain leaders for my taste.
Is this the EP 3 of Apartment 404 concept?
He is a saint. Truly. We need more people like him in the world. 👍👍👍👍🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
What is the JMS?
Java Message service?
It stands for Jesus Morning Star
Asian boss is one my favorite channel in UA-cam for interesting topics but if this channel is seriously going to want to dig in to have a deeper investigation on this topic, really hope that Asian boss could provide the views or maybe investigate on both side of stories, instead of just providing interview based just on one side, so to able to provide a more objective information to viewers.
If you really know the trial, it is an such an unfair trial because till now, there's not even a single solid evidence ever proving the defendant is guilty of the charges despite "many so called real victims came out" and the persons in-charge of the investigation didn't follow the proper procedure of investigation process. This is such an unfair act committed against human rights and it's happening in such a modern developed country towards its own citizens. Previously there's also public south Korea TV station being sued for the defamation for publishing fake news about the said organization and the said organization won the case but not many know about this.
Many might being misled because of Netflix "so called real documentary" or the current news spreading online and public media. Well this might be a controversial stand regarding who are actually the right ones and who are actually spreading the fake news. So, let God judges which side is right or wrong. There's no intention of offence or debating here.
Just hope Asian boss or anyone who really wants to know the truth about this case, at least dig in to stories from both sides without bias or media influence, able to distinguish the information and not just blindly accepting all the information published by media. The said organization had mass gathering protest about the unfair trial and worldwide prayers gathering in Yeoido Park, South Korea previously.
People who are interested can also join in for petition, not to debate over who is right and wrong but just to petition for a fair trial and proper investigation process regarding the case.
Cheers 🙏.
Why not publish everything- isnt that what journalism is about?
UA-cam will ban it for the explicit content it’s not about journalism
Every cult is a sex cult. For some its just the leaders, but its always a part of things.
Not necessarily. There was a cult called the Shakers in the US during the 18th century who celebrated celibacy
So it’s not ALWAYS about sex, but sex is often a big factor
The korean mentality is not easy to understand for westerns !
They still have money and still prevalent in Asia. Pure evil
Despite intelligence and education despair, conditioning, and a sprinkle of superstition is the recipe for cult. In a word: fear.
People with fear (and questions) are prime candidates to lured into cults. You just have to promise answers and safety.
This was covered in detail by the Netflix documentary.
Hold on, is JMS still exist now ??
Do the government do nothing??
Government officials are often member in one of the many Korean cults - so in their perspective they do something..
Putting knowledge behind a Paywall
No doubt Korean women are beautiful, but there's such a long, sad history of so many people being abused and victimized over it.
It’s truly difficult and disturbing to watch the harassing and criminal stories from JMS. 🤯🤬
I understand a lot of Koreans are not having religions and that's not a must to have there.. but I am very concerned bout the incident like this.. when religion is being taught wrongly by a person who acted like a god himself..
Interestingly lot of corporates are like this. Especially here in india.
Why the South-Korean government did take action sooner to stop that outragious man ???
these people out here believing jms was allowed to operate on that level without any form of backing both fanancially and politically. and vice versa.
Nem are always gross🤢
Don’t expect anything “free” from a stranger. A smart person should have known that.
What's with Korea and cults?
Not just Korea, remember Japan with Aum Shinrikyo
I can only hope that more people don't get into cults because of arrogance but by accepting that it's a cult, or at least, the leader is viperously lying
I was in a cult for most of my life called Christianity.
I am not a Christian but I used to and protestant Christians are not a cult. Maybe you just had a bad experience.
yes unfortunately there are many people in Christianity who are hypocrites and spread false information.
It’s even mentioned in the Bible
Jesus himself wasn’t a big fan of religion. Religion is a man made thing.
Even those who honestly describe themselves as ‘religious’ do not in the least act up to it, and so they presumably mean something quite different by ‘religious.’”
“true religion is a devotion to God, demonstrated by love and compassion for fellowmen, coupled with unworldliness”
Is Christianity a cult: no
Are there people who abuse Christianity to use it for their benefit: of course.
“Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 “The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the official interpreters of the law of Moses.[a] 3 So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but don’t follow their example. For they don’t practice what they teach. 4 They crush people with unbearable religious demands and never lift a finger to ease the burden.”
Adnan Oktar ve kedicikleri ama Kore versiyonu
구독해야해서 볼 수 있어서 안타깝습니다. 저는 브라질에 살고 있는데 이곳의 달러는 너무 비쌉니다.
Hey AsianBoss, please do a street interview about Filipinos' sentiments on resuming peace talks with the communist...
Expose the work of darkness (Ephesians5:11)
Here's 1 figure: About 4 to 7% of the population is affected by ADHD, only 2 out of 10 of them are diagnosed/aware.
A similar situation with ASD (Autism), especially undiagnosed woman.
OCD has a similar problem of a large undiagnosed population.
And that's just 3 neurological disorders, not counting the hundreds more and all the psychological disorders/illnesses... Even just these 3 NDs you have *Hundreds of millions of unaware and struggling individuals seeking some form of confort*
It would be nice if AsianBoss could shed light on the other side of the situation as well. So far, it's only been a one-sided arch. From what I've seen and heard, there have been many protests from JMS side about this trial and that even the evidence shown in the Netflix is fabricated. That's a big claim for them to state. Why are people still supporting him when there's so much negative press and accusations against him? Would love an in-depth interview of what the other side says.
Reference videos:
JMS protest video: ua-cam.com/video/DCypDNwsvC8/v-deo.html
Them claiming the Netflix is false: "The Truth Behind Netflix "In the Name of God" ua-cam.com/video/as2Zurp--Fs/v-deo.html
I want to know, is the conflict b/w Palestine and Israeli considered in Asia, or not ? and is America considered an Asian country or not ? Why do I see some videos about America and zero about the Palestine and Israeli conflict. Is it not your goal to make bridge between the East and West ? How would you do that if many Koreans have no knowledge about one of the basic problems between East and West ?
'Arrogance' PERIODDD
🫢😞
Heh. In the name of God
it's kinda told
lovely korea
We saw that on Netflix though
나는 이 사이비 지도자가 마침내 투옥되었을 때 세상이 약간의 안도감을 느꼈다고 생각합니다. @AsianBoss씨, 중요한 인터뷰에 응해 주셔서 감사합니다. 나는 그러한 파괴적인 세력에 맞서 싸우려는 당신의 흔들리지 않는 노력에 깊은 존경심을 갖고 있습니다. 불행하게도 이 사이비 종교 지도자는 자신의 파괴적인 이념을 중심으로 거대하고 영향력 있는 인프라를 구축했습니다. 그리고 의식적으로든 무의식적으로든 여전히 그 신념 체계에 갇혀 있는 사람들이 있을 가능성이 높습니다. 나쁜 아이디어가 견인력을 잃고 그 영향력이 약해지는 데는 수년이 걸릴 것입니다. 나는 이 수업이 더 많은 사람들이 이데올로기에 전념할 때 더 잘 인식하는 데 도움이 되기를 바랍니다.
Well educated doesnt mean “intelligent”
strange title. "Untold" story? I saw the Netflix series, and learned nothing new here.
Thanks for your cmt. Already saw the Netflix series so I will not watch this one but I’ll hit like so the video will be promoted more and hopefully, reach to more people.
8:16 this sort of thing is insane. I truly am terrified. The highest prosecutor protected a serial cult rapist. It’s obvious that he was involved as well. This is the Epstein stuff of SK. I hope the best and safety for this brave man who exposed them. I hope he is safe and protected.
Now, he has become a president due to the mass votes from religious fanatics! He is involved not only with JMS, but also with Shincheonji, Moonies, and all other cults.
segs
Thing I like the most about Koreans are that they take accountability. Same thing goes on and even happening in millions in India, many many cults and sexual harassments but see, no big deal
People resort to religion when they become lonely and afraid.
"It's arrogance"... Wow this guy doesn't know anything about magical thinking and the lack of scientific method mindset affecting society all over the world
Perhaps this is an example of a different cultural meaning of arrogance or lack of an adequate English word in translation. There are some aspects shared by arrogance and magical thinking, such as being convinced you are right, accepting only data that support your mindset and a feeling of superiority that you know the "real" truth.
@@hollywebster6844 I appreciate your effort but it sounds for the most part like a subconscious anti-contrarian coping which still better than the general anti-contrarian attitude of the internet so I definitely appreciate you
@@hollywebster6844Yes, I think it is something lost in translation or cannot be translated directly.
bro you're just trying to redirect people to you're own websites.
Lucky Bastards
Pathetic
Alright this is low quality content "Arrogance causes cults" and a low quality community... Unsubscribed, good luck
I bet it is just something lost I translation or just cannot be translated directly.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj Look at the comments section...