Vegan For 26 Years - The Good, The Bad, The Unexpected
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Happy birthday, Tim! I just wanted to say that I watched my first video of yours at 11 years old back when I was in 6th grade XC looking for running advice. Flash forward to today and I've run countless 100+ mile weeks, logged 3,200 hours of running on Strava since 2017, and climbed a lot of hills all while implementing your ideas and principles. After watching for over a decade, I recently bought a Running Raw hat from your store and wear it all the time to run now with pride. Thank you so much for all that you've given us over the last nearly twenty years since you started the Running Raw project. I hope to eventually catch a run with you one day and look forward to seeing what you accomplish in the future.
Jared! Thank you :D So happy that my work has been of value to you. Can't wait to see how you shake up the world :)
You are now Skiing Raw!!!
Tim Van Orden is an OG in the fitness industry!!!
Great to see you again Tim! You are looking great! I am sure you are aware of Nimae Delgado and Torre Washington. I have been Vegan now for quite some time and am an Elite Ironman athlete training well over 18 hours per week. Thank you for always inspiring! I am now 57 years old… hard to believe and yet I feel and still look like I did in my late 30’s … or so everyone tells me 😊
Hugs to you and keep inspiring and living your absolute bliss!
Lauren, it's been ages! So glad to hear that you are still getting after it! Do you still experiment with training? What fun goals are in front of you?
Yes, Nimae and Torre are great examples of what's possible on vegan diet.
I just wanted to add an immense thanks for the past inspiration to pull kit on in the dark, to hear rain on the window and wind and to push into movement and motivation. Your videos really supported me particularly pertaining to overcoming inertia to push against it all. A real motivation Tim and you have always scattered seeds of positivity into prevailing winds. Best wishes from London always.
That is incredibly inspiring, I've been vegan for 5 years. I'm a type 1 Diabetic (23 years) and I'm 56 years old. I've just had ACL reconstruction in both knees and I'm looking to get in the best shape of my life. What you shared about gentle training I liked. I have the same insecurities about taking my shirt off as well. You're a legend thanks for sharing your story
Little steps, and low expectations are the secret to consistent engagement... and consistency is key.
You are One of Three People who started my Plant based to Journey to Health and Fitness.Even if im not Vegan anymore,i cannot Thank you enough for the past 14 Years.
That’s a great way to look at a workout. I used to be obsessed with bodybuilding and seeing how big that I could get. Never steroids, but very unhealthy. In three years I got huge as a hard gainer. Eventually bodybuilding and the food that most of them eat comes back to haunt them and that includes me. Eat healthy and exercise. What ever exercise that you like. Include other exercises.
Great video, you look great, happy birthday!! ❤
Been a follower of you since the beginning of your UA-cam channel. I love to see the growth and transformation man. It's awesome! Such an inspiration to me as I get older. I think I mentioned this before about a year ago but out of pure curiosity I would love to see what a typical day of eating looks like for you. What types of foods, amounts, supplements, smoothies, ect. I know you've sorta moved on from those types of videos but being someone who's watched from the beginning I'm curious to how different the food choices are. For instance do you still consume the same smoothies, as well as the evening salads?
I'll work on a diet video soon.
Looking great Tim! Glad to hear you're doing well! And happy birthday!!
Thanks Matt :)
Good to see you back. 👍👍👍
Happy Veganniversary and Happy Birthday! I used to watch your videos on UA-cam back when I was a new vegan in 2006. You were a role model and an inspiration to me back then - and you still are! I’m 55, and it’s so great to see you in such amazing shape at the age of 56! Bravo! And thank you for remaining vegan in a world that sure doesn’t make it easy. 🌱for the animals! 🤗
Missed your uploads Great to see you back.
Such a great value! Nice to have a humble/gentle masculine role modeI.
I invite you to Vasaloppet 90km freestyle 2025 ;)
Thanks Niklas! Wait - Vasaloppet is freestyle in 2025?????
Vasaloppet -Sunday is only classic skiing, but Vasaloppet monday (open track) is now freestyle. I did this race last year and highly recomend it. I am trying to learn the free style skate, inspired by your experiment. You can also do the Nattvasan (night time vasaloppet) with headlamp. I did this in 2023 as a pair competition. But I prefer the daylight
Oh wow! Det är fantastiskt that they have a freestyle option. How many people do the Monday race? Is it competitive?
It's been so much fun to work on skating technique over the past 3 years. I've learned so much.
Holy shit! You went from a road runner to a lumber jack. Hope to get there one day myself. Funny, I also started supplementing with creatine a few months ago and had the same instant results.
Little, gentle steps... and lots of them :) I'd be curious to see how many vegans know about creatine.
@@runningraw I'm sure it'll catch on like B12. Good on you to help raise awareness!
Wow, Tim always inspiring! You look incredible. Like the idea of a gentle working out. What are you eating these days?
Gentle does the job just as well as HTFU. As for eating, mostly whole foods, lots of salads, smoothies, whole grains, oats, and various protein powders.
Firstly, happy vegan anniversary Tim! 34+ years for me (66 years young). Second, your pull-up testimony re: creatine has convinced me! My goal is 20. I'm at maybe 13. I always worried that creatine would make me retain too much water and/or pee more. Really appreciate all of your training tips and strategies. At my age training is a pure fountain of youth. Thank you my vegan brother! 💪💚🌿
And at 14:42 as an aspiring athlete, I died 1000 deaths! LOL This made me realize that my training has been "animal abuse"- and I am the animal!
Yeah, our 'will' is an awful master when it believes itself to be separate from 'the body'
Great video, Tim. Try to be kinder to yourself. You give such great help to people and you're kind to others. Make sure to extend that to yourself. You're doing very well and you should be proud of the progress you've made in life
Love ya Tim, smashing it with style, grace n oodles of compassion🙌🏼❤️
Thanks Chris :D
Great video thanks for sharing! There was a time when I used to try to do 20 or 30 push-ups at once, but I would do them so infrequently like once every couple weeks or months. In January 2024, I made a pledge to do just 5 push-ups; but to do them every day for that month. Well, I succeeded in my goal of doing 5 push-ups every day in January and it has made me so much stronger at doing push-ups. The compassionate approach works! You don't have to kill yourself in order to get fit!
Awesome :D
My goal is just to get in 'the position' of whatever movement I'm interested in. No number goal at all, just get in the position and see what happens.
@@runningraw I'll look forward to see how fast you will be able to run at your new weight !
I'm entering the New England 5k road championships on May 19th. I've only run 3 times this year, so I'm quite scared honestly, but I'm curious nonetheless.
@@runningraw I have noted the date. Best of luck!
Happy birthday! TiVo, you look fantastic! Respect.
Thanks Greg. Hoping to see you on a trail at some point in the future :)
I enjoy watching ur video, vegan for 13+ years started running about 60, will do my first ultra. A 50k at Leanhorse for my 70th this August. Wish I had the interest to start strength training…
Learned a lot, thanks, Tim.
Its been 12 years for me, time goes by too fast. Congrats 🎉 Thank you so much for educating me on your gentle approach to exercise there is so much that I have been able to experience that I wouldn’t have without it.
Congrats on 12 years :D So happy that my work has been of value to you Sarah :D
Congratulations, Tim Van Orden! Happy birthday, and good on you as a vegan for 26 years! You're a most inspiring athlete and you look ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS. Your commitment to your health and to continuing the development of your physique based on gentleness and compassion has clearly led to you to your perfect body. A great success and something to celebrate! Cheers!
Thank you! Glad my content has value to you.
You are so inspiring. Thank you Tim!🎉
Thank you. I'm glad you find value in what I do.
Thanks for posting this update! I’m so curious to know what you’re eating these days.
I'll try to make a 'what I eat' video soon.
Happy belated birthday Tim!!🎉 And That would be a great video idea! Max is very curious to know how to pack that much protein in a day, hihi!
You look phenomenal! 🎉 Keep inspiring! 🥰 What are your sources of protein to hit those macros?
Oats, broccoli, nuts, seeds, protein powders
Well I think this conclusively puts to bed the myth that you need to eat meat to bulk up. The human body can assemble its needed amino acids from plant based alone.
Yep :)
@@runningraw I do up down up down… movement ✅♥️🤝💨💪, and then legs and listening to music, 1 hour, 3 times a week. Same weight as you. 10 years, vegan, 45 years young. Keep it up my friend.
Trt is vegan bro
@tccrowe3192 it's also illegal in the sports I compete in.
@@runningraw as if that ever stopped any athlete....
Thank you, Tim!
Still inspirational Tim! You are a bit older than me, so I have no excuse not to get super fit...
Just 3.5 years behind you in age and vegetarian since I was 18, eliminated all but accidental animal-source food about 7 years ago. I mostly run trail ultras now and don't do much strength training. I started daily creatine monohydrate supplementation about a year ago (I use Thorne because I am confident in the quality and the price premium is not bad). I noticed all of the same changes you have mentioned here. I did have some sleep disturbance in the first week (I did not do a "loading phase," just 5g per day). After that it was improved recovery during (e.g. between intervals) and after training. And if I even think about exerting myself I seem to gain mass in the relevant muscles.
Regarding training, I really think you are doing it in an incredibly powerful and effective way. Thank you for sharing and continuing to develop this approach! I hope that at some point your demons shut up and go away. Or you convert them and they start to help you out - folding laundry or cleaning the bathroom maybe? Keep being you - you are enough!
Thanks for the data Chris! What got you to start taking creatine? How do you take it? I'm putting it in a smoothie.
It's been so much fun just playing around with training, without any sense of a plan, and just doing what my body seems to want to do. The results are much better than any plan I've ever been on.
@@runningraw I take the creatine first thing in the morning in 12-16oz of water, usually with a teaspoon of amla (Indian gooseberry) powder. The amla is an acquired taste (to put it mildly) but it has a whole lot of vitamin C and some other vitamins and minerals. Much less evidence for the benefits of amla than creatine, but there is some showing improvement in blood sugar control.
You are my inspiration for many years! Thank you!
Thank you for continuing to tune in :)
Man you look like a pro bodybuilder in that old picture! What a physique
He's on creatine... He's not natural
@@inthedarkwoods2022Creatine is natural, lol. Is like taking a vitamin supplement. It's not a hormone or something like that
Have loved your content for a number of years now, Tim as well as your workout data on Strava. Thank you for continuing to be such an incredible inspiration as a vegan athlete and apparently kind dude!
You look great! Keep up the good work! I'm looking forward to seeing you continue to progress towards future goals. I'm excited to hear you say you might partake in more running again which is kind of my forte. Cheers!
Much appreciated!
happy new year, Tim!
Thanks!
@@runningraw thanks for sharing all of this, I really appreciate it!
You've been inspiring to me for many years , you are fantastic, thanks for sharing your awesome journey with us🙌🌱
Glad you are still tuning in M :D
Hell yeah Tim, great stuff. Never tried creatine but I've heard good things before. Where do you get it for a decent price?
I get 90 servings for $17 on Amazon.
Fruit and fitness!! No better way to feel your absolute best! So easy to build fitness this way, Carbs FTW!! 💪💪💪
I have that same voice in my head! Haven't taken my shirt off in public since childhood.
Not a fun voice... and yet, we both became actors :D
Great to hear from you. You are a great inspiration for an adult athlete like me.
What is your sport?
@@runningrawFor the past five years, I've been involved in orienteering at the national competition level. This journey has involved running training as well as versatile lighter training. It's an incredibly fun sport, especially given the wide age range in championships, with competitors ranging over to 90 years old.
Although the Masters World Championships are taking place in Finland this year, I don't feel quite ready for that level of competition just yet. However, I've thoroughly enjoyed transforming into an endurance athlete and competing at various levels. Orienteering has become more than just a sport for me; it's a way of life now.
Orienteering is a great sport. I have a few friends who do it. Mental as much as physical.
I really enjoy your videos! Thanks for sharing your experience!
Make a video of what you are currently eating in a Day, please.
Thanks in advanced! 😁
Greetings from Brazil!
I totally concur in the effects/benefits of creatine monohydrate supplementation...
Like you I first started using it over 20 years ago (born in 1980 😂) to pump up and become massive. I then learned throughout the years of it's cognitive enhancing/preserving effects via hydration and ATP production etc.
The only downside for me is that when trying to "run" regularly, my joints/ankles would take more of a beating do to the "rapid" weight gain...( 5' 7 140- 150 typically).
The weight shot up 10 lbs within weeks last time implemented
Thanks for the data :)
I'm going to take my time getting back into running, to let all of the load bearing parts get used to the extra weight.
@@runningraw you bet! 😄
Could you point out how do you achieve 116g of protein on a day, what do you eat? Thanks.
I'll make a video soon, showing my various protein sources.
That's great.
56 years old, daaaaamn. I'm 37 and I wish I looked half as good as you.
Hey Tim great video!!! Question I'm 74 a tennis professional by trade and vegan for 16 years, 6 feet and 145 pounds always been skinny never weighed more than 160, what do you eat for the extra protein in your vegan diet? I've always been against supplementation like creatine how do you know its safe? Are there any fruits and veggies that contain creatine? Best regards!
Creatine (in the form of phosphocreatine) is only found in meat. But creatine monohydrate has been studied extensively for decades. I look at the research, and I'm confident that it's safe. But that's me. Everything should be tested. If you try something and notice negative effects (and you only added that one thing) then stop taking it. Very little that we do and consume in the modern world is 'natural'. I'd be dead many times over from infections, and crippled with Lyme disease if it were not for anti-biotics.
As for protein, nuts, seeds, oats, broccoli, soy, and various protein powders.
The best test of successful progress is time. I followed Tim's progress since he was in early 40's. There were ups and downs but full transparency throughout, not just content for likes and clicks. It's a proof of endurance in the face of odds when consistency and persistence come into play. Side note: Tim, you just MUST try parkour! (I'm serious).
Great proof of how a healthy and well nourished body adapts to cope with the load it is put under. Great vlog as always TVO!
You are lovely happy birthday!
Thank you :)
Happy birthday and great video. I’m curious about the type of protein you are consuming as I am vegan and want to build muscle. Thank you.
Nuts, seeds, broccoli, oats, tofu, and various protein powders.
You are 100% right about creating. You also should have a look at C15:0, a fatty acid that more and more scientists consider as an essential one (there is a vegan friendly supplement by the way)...
Creatine gave me massive headaches, once I stopped the headaches stopped. When I stopped I added 25 lbs. of muscle and 25 lbs. of weight to my bodybuilding. Just with food. The wrong cancer causing food.
What dose were you taking? Creatine monohydrate?
@@runningraw I don’t know I just know that it’s not natural
I'm not sure what 'natural' means anymore. The lens I use now is - Beneficial or not.
@@runningraw you make a good point. You were smart enough to go vegan before you got sick
Yeah, I was lucky. Went vegan for vanity, and glad I did.
proud of you tim, god bless 🙏
Hello, where Tony Wright?
Great journey to have and story to share Tim! Would like to hear your thoughts and practice around sodium consumption.
I don't eat a lot of salt, and rarely add it to my food. It's really about balancing sodium with the other electrolytes so that your cells work efficiently.
@@runningraw thanks for your reply Tim. please consider some nerdy nutritional content in the future. As someone in the situation of getting their fitness back in their 40s it would be much appreciated.
What types of topics would you like to see addressed?
@@runningraw 1. Your overall approach to food and how you organize/plan your diet because I dont know anyone at your age with your background that did/does what you do. 2. What foods are must haves divided into the groups 'for everyone' and 'as an 'athlete'. 3. give some examples of how you would program your diet differently (if at all) if you did endurance sports vs strength sports. 4. How you go about balancing your electrolytes and the whole sodium thing at the practical level. 5. What is your healthy version of meeting your protein requirements (ie are you going heaving on the beans/legumes or are you incorporating soy products, etc). 6. Are there any foods that you avoid that many people might still consider healthy as a vegan. 7 oil and sugar. 8. macro ratios. 9 meal timings. 10. Basically a holistic overview of how you eat now and the reasoning/science behind it. 11. supplements. Sorry for the long answer Im sure you get the idea. been watch since we were both 80/10/10 raw. I am now just standard vegan but I want to clean that up and jump down an athletic path like you did. inspirational
Tim, you are not touching on the fact that creatine also makes you store more water weight. I don’t doubt you’ve gained muscle, but you’ve also gained water weight. That also may be why your abs are less defined. Either way, thanks for the video.
I mentioned that in the video. But it's. not normal 'water retention' - it's actually inside the muscle cells, rather than between tissues... and yes, some of the weight is most certainly water, but I look at it from a strength to weight ratio. My strength is going up at the same rate as my weight. A hydrated muscle, is a better functioning muscle.
@@runningrawThanks Tim, I must have missed you saying that. Keep it up 👍
It would be interesting to see what Dr Doug Graham would have to say based on his 40yr raw lifestyle
Well, Doug would probably say that if you eat 4,500 calories a day on an 80/10/10 diet, you'll get 450 calories from protein, which is roughly 114 grams per day.
Well done! About creatine, just watch out of you have high blood pressure. Mine has been borderline high for many years and when I tried creatine it went up to unhealthy levels. Just something to think about and something you might wanna monitor of you take it.
I looked at the studies in regard to blood pressure and creatine (as my mom has hypertension), and it seems that it's likely due to dehydration while taking creatine. So one would need to increase fluid consumption while taking creatine. But individual results may vary.
Brilliant 👍👍🙏
I run ultras at 200 lbs 😮😅😊
I love creatine! It allowed me to gain 20k of vert in a day of hill laps. I think us vegans truly feel the difference, it's like a rocket fuel cuz we are so depleted of it.
I'm having a similar experience. I can crank out 10 sets of 10 pullups with ease now.
what foods or suplement are you eating to increase protein intake? Just a funny thing, i know your channel since 2011 an today i remembered you and came here to watch your last video and you are talking about consuming creatine suplement and you father of 85 years old too.. HOurs ago i just bought creatine for me and my father that is 85 years. My father is very skyinny all his muscles are "gone". How did your father body reacted to the intake of creatine? Thanks
Rock on Timmy 🤘🍉🍎🫐🍓🥬🥦🥕
Thanks T2 :)
I used to take creatine, but for me it caused water retention,
The water is retained within the muscle cell, not outside like with excess sodium. So your cells become better hydrated.
You shouldread the book brain energy.
What did you get out of the book?
I have followed you from the beginning of your channel, and I think the main problem is your brain is highly sensitive to insulin resistance. The book brain energy highlights that schizophrenia is caused by insulin resistance of the brain. If you read the book you will change your outlook of veganism and understand your real problem was always insulin spikes.
@@runningraw If you dont want to get the book just watch the author Christopher Palmer on Andrew Hubermans podcast. He gives a very interesting 3hr interview that is very insightful. It highlights that mitochondrial dysfunction caused by fueling from sugar is the main problems with nearly all health conditions.
I've seen the episode with Huberman. It's a good theory, but at the moment, still largely theoretical, without much evidence to support it... also, there is never just one cause to any given problem, and never just one solution. Living organisms are infinitely complex.
@@runningrawLots of evidence to support it, why do you think that you improved since going vegan? Less insulin spikes combined with periods of fat burning.
13:44 Muscle Daddy😍
You on any TRT?
Nope.
@@runningraw Even nicer job.👍
I compete in events with drug testing, so I couldn't even if I wanted to.
Sir there's no long living vegan ever hit 100 please explain your theory thanks.
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I got curious, did a quick google and found a whole bunch of vegans living past 100 :D
@@linalinux we're not here in the U.S.A
@@eddiemoney61 Looking at statistics for US health in general, it doesn't look very good, and those numbers are not an overwhelming part vegans, and even vegans in an unhealthy culture, probably eat less healthy vegan food. it could even be that countries with more vegans culturally, health number look better..?
@@linalinux I knew this country they ant no long living vegans hitting 100 plus. Just ant never been in the U.S.A.
so you're not raw vegan anymore? guess you need to change the name to running cooked?
Hey Richard :D I'm more 'raw' now than ever. Just not sticking the idea of raw food anymore.