How to live a decent and pleasant life with about one third of the energy use is investigated by the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology and several "2000 watt neighborhoods". The Institute started working on that subject in 1998. They have put into practice almost everything Ms Steinberger proposed. These "2000 watt neighborhoods" have not reached the goal yet, but they are close. I visited several such neighborhoods and looked at their data.
Virtually everyone who has the money will buy luxury vehicles and fly to great places. Their money means they can and will. It's a socially sensitive topic. My wealthier friends don't want any browbeating. We're going to have to tax the rich like in the early 1900s, 90% on seven digit incomes prevents the wealthy from taking control, as they have in the US. And redistributes income more fairly.
Good luck with that, I am with you all the way, but first, we need to create a mass movement of like-minded souls in the richest countries of the world. Otherwise, the fascists will take over as they have already begun. We to listen to Good Old Roger Hallam!
The car dependency angle is truly at the center as bloated car weight, size, and numbers radiate throughout the energy waste economy. Wider roads with faster resurfacing needs, giant three car garages now seen as a must for US suburban housing developments, and families' needs to spend a larger portion of household income on cars/transportation which perversely makes them hostile to allow public monies to be spent on public transportation.
From the caption details above, NOTE that the term Producer = means or might best ALSO include: the provider, the processor, the driller, the transporter, and the storer/keeper of the different types of Energy. THAT said, it's ALSO key 🗝️ to know that 90+% of the world's 🌎🌍 energy usage/consumption is FROM fossil sources, i.e., 4.5 billion years of photosynthesis via chlorophyll turned into mainly carbon chain ⛓️ fuels, e.g., coal 🪨, oil 🪔🛢️, and natural gas ⛽🍃🌬️. WHICH is not going away anytime soon, BUT will indeed (and is) being slowly transformed into other Energy Sources, AND arguably about as fast as the Human Super-Organism (Rees, et al) can do it within the Constraints AND Affordances of The Big System SUCH as it exists. Going from here to something else PERHAPS in MUCH larger part 〽️ by the time of the lives of our grandkids. WHICH is HOW things change, albeit quite relatively rapidly nowadays given that in the long history of humankind - most things have ALWAYS tended to change ONLY so very slowly over centuries and eons of time so as to be ALMOST imperceptible -- except for WHEN HUGE Crisis Moments occur OR Multiple Crises converge -- SUCH as the current Kairos Era during Our Shared Poly-Crisis AND the Phase Shifting NOW underway AND in progress = Massive Paradigm Change. CUZ, rushing into things MOSTLY just leads to more BAU, more bad outcomes, more negative externalities, and BOTH upstream and downstream big bad effects... WHICH is WHY Systems Thinking with respect for Complexity Theory (Meadows, et al) AND Complexity Science Applications BECOMES the central, essential, must know, MUST do, HENCE the top Moral Imperative... So that we simply just do NOT phukk more stuff up. YET, just HOW to proceed AND how to get things done smartly, wisely, beneficially, in ways that can Scale Up, etc., PLEASE refer to the Cynefin Project's Framework (Snowwdenn, et al), the Consilience Project's (Schmactenberger , et al) Framework, AND the content (there's alot, some better than others) adjacent to THIS here SUCH as the work/content by Dr Nate Hagens of The Great Simplification (bottlenecks of the 21st century, MAINLY the NEXT 2 to 3 decades), Rebel Wisdom, Post Carbon Institute, etc, ETC, and so on AND so forth... For learning AND teaching and educing MUCH better "Sense Making" -- the biggest phukken thing that we've forgotten HOW to do despite the great progress narrative (Pinker, et al):FOR better understanding and educement of the Problem Space, BEFORE doing ANY realistic, necessary, fully proper "Choice Making" before THEN any type of truly helpful + ethical "Action Taking," EVERYONE is hereby URGED to delve into the work and content by & with Prof Dr John Vervaeke et al (Awakening From The Meaning Crisis), a la ~ 'This Little Corner of the Internet,' --WHICH is accruing ever MORE strong 💪 wise 🦉, smart 🤓 groups & individuals, as well as Embodying AND Exemplifying not just the aspects of BUT the ACTUAL moral roots and foundations and fundamentals of: cognition, psychology, & philosophy of: Reasoning, Rationality, Discernment, Awe & Wonder 🤔, Wisdom, Logic AND the Logos, the essence + process of doing the Dialectical, Discourse, Reciprocal Processing INTO Reciprocal Opening (not Narrowing), Warm Data Labs (Bateson), discussion & compromise, and ultimately do better Governance THROUGH the Structures & Mechanisms in Institutions, Agencies, Govts, and Private Sector dimensions. In service of Virtue, in service to The Good, The TRUE, and The Beautiful. AND yes, we could sustain our current number of people, EVEN lots more, BUT we do AND have been doing really shitty resource distribution; Think: Abundance Mindset in the Sacred NOT legacy religion or bullshit or woo-woo sense of the word; AND, get out of the Scarcity framing & perspective, BUT also cast off the arbitrary made-up phoney baloney 🐂 💩 BS policies and callings for Austerity -- CUZ it's an abusive narrative deployed as an Off-Ramp TOWARDS more for the 1% to 10% obscenely wealthy Oligarchical Kleptocratic Megalomaniacal plutocrats of the new techno-feudalistic dikkwads d-bags a-holes dilrods WHILST the rest of us can just shut up and be happy and totally phukked and absolutely contented with LESS if not nothing at all. People ONLY believe that or go along with that shit 💩 WHEN they don't ACTUALLY phukken understand how money is made, HOW debt is created, AND of just HOW exactly currency 💵 💲 is issued; to unravel THIS knot in the cosmic dikk, PLEASE watch/listen 🎧 to the Zeitgiest Film 📽️🎥 Trilogy, OR is it a quadrilogy NOW!!?? Peace 🕊️ Luck ☘️ Cheers 🍾 Gaia ✨♾️🌌🚀☯️⭐💚
What I took away from this is that it could work if we work collaboratively and strive for a more equal society. But we know a considerable subset of society will fight this - even if it's in their best interest - because it sounds too much like socialism.
![[FR w/ENG Subs] Living well within limits: is it possible? What will it take? - Julia Steinberger](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/78IRyffMsPw/mqdefault.jpg)
This is highly original way of looking at energy consumption and what can be done about the most important problems.
How to live a decent and pleasant life with about one third of the energy use is investigated by the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology and several "2000 watt neighborhoods". The Institute started working on that subject in 1998. They have put into practice almost everything Ms Steinberger proposed. These "2000 watt neighborhoods" have not reached the goal yet, but they are close. I visited several such neighborhoods and looked at their data.
Virtually everyone who has the money will buy luxury vehicles and fly to great places. Their money means they can and will. It's a socially sensitive topic. My wealthier friends don't want any browbeating. We're going to have to tax the rich like in the early 1900s, 90% on seven digit incomes prevents the wealthy from taking control, as they have in the US. And redistributes income more fairly.
Good luck with that, I am with you all the way, but first, we need to create a mass movement of like-minded souls in the richest countries of the world. Otherwise, the fascists will take over as they have already begun. We to listen to Good Old Roger Hallam!
The car dependency angle is truly at the center as bloated car weight, size, and numbers radiate throughout the energy waste economy. Wider roads with faster resurfacing needs, giant three car garages now seen as a must for US suburban housing developments, and families' needs to spend a larger portion of household income on cars/transportation which perversely makes them hostile to allow public monies to be spent on public transportation.
These are the same people who told us that we'd run out of food in the 70s because the population was unsustainable.
great talk.
For people who watch a lot of videos intro's are better as outro's and the video title starting immediately.
From the caption details above, NOTE that the term Producer = means or might best ALSO include: the provider, the processor, the driller, the transporter, and the storer/keeper of the different types of Energy. THAT said, it's ALSO key 🗝️ to know that 90+% of the world's 🌎🌍 energy usage/consumption is FROM fossil sources, i.e., 4.5 billion years of photosynthesis via chlorophyll turned into mainly carbon chain ⛓️ fuels, e.g., coal 🪨, oil 🪔🛢️, and natural gas ⛽🍃🌬️. WHICH is not going away anytime soon, BUT will indeed (and is) being slowly transformed into other Energy Sources, AND arguably about as fast as the Human Super-Organism (Rees, et al) can do it within the Constraints AND Affordances of The Big System SUCH as it exists. Going from here to something else PERHAPS in MUCH larger part 〽️ by the time of the lives of our grandkids. WHICH is HOW things change, albeit quite relatively rapidly nowadays given that in the long history of humankind - most things have ALWAYS tended to change ONLY so very slowly over centuries and eons of time so as to be ALMOST imperceptible -- except for WHEN HUGE Crisis Moments occur OR Multiple Crises converge -- SUCH as the current Kairos Era during Our Shared Poly-Crisis AND the Phase Shifting NOW underway AND in progress = Massive Paradigm Change. CUZ, rushing into things MOSTLY just leads to more BAU, more bad outcomes, more negative externalities, and BOTH upstream and downstream big bad effects... WHICH is WHY Systems Thinking with respect for Complexity Theory (Meadows, et al) AND Complexity Science Applications BECOMES the central, essential, must know, MUST do, HENCE the top Moral Imperative... So that we simply just do NOT phukk more stuff up. YET, just HOW to proceed AND how to get things done smartly, wisely, beneficially, in ways that can Scale Up, etc., PLEASE refer to the Cynefin Project's Framework (Snowwdenn, et al), the Consilience Project's (Schmactenberger , et al) Framework, AND the content (there's alot, some better than others) adjacent to THIS here SUCH as the work/content by Dr Nate Hagens of The Great Simplification (bottlenecks of the 21st century, MAINLY the NEXT 2 to 3 decades), Rebel Wisdom, Post Carbon Institute, etc, ETC, and so on AND so forth...
For learning AND teaching and educing MUCH better "Sense Making" -- the biggest phukken thing that we've forgotten HOW to do despite the great progress narrative (Pinker, et al):FOR better understanding and educement of the Problem Space, BEFORE doing ANY realistic, necessary, fully proper "Choice Making" before THEN any type of truly helpful + ethical "Action Taking," EVERYONE is hereby URGED to delve into the work and content by & with Prof Dr John Vervaeke et al (Awakening From The Meaning Crisis), a la ~ 'This Little Corner of the Internet,' --WHICH is accruing ever MORE strong 💪 wise 🦉, smart 🤓 groups & individuals, as well as Embodying AND Exemplifying not just the aspects of BUT the ACTUAL moral roots and foundations and fundamentals of: cognition, psychology, & philosophy of: Reasoning, Rationality, Discernment, Awe & Wonder 🤔, Wisdom, Logic AND the Logos, the essence + process of doing the Dialectical, Discourse, Reciprocal Processing INTO Reciprocal Opening (not Narrowing), Warm Data Labs (Bateson), discussion & compromise, and ultimately do better Governance THROUGH the Structures & Mechanisms in Institutions, Agencies, Govts, and Private Sector dimensions. In service of Virtue, in service to The Good, The TRUE, and The Beautiful.
AND yes, we could sustain our current number of people, EVEN lots more, BUT we do AND have been doing really shitty resource distribution; Think: Abundance Mindset in the Sacred NOT legacy religion or bullshit or woo-woo sense of the word; AND, get out of the Scarcity framing & perspective, BUT also cast off the arbitrary made-up phoney baloney 🐂 💩 BS policies and callings for Austerity -- CUZ it's an abusive narrative deployed as an Off-Ramp TOWARDS more for the 1% to 10% obscenely wealthy Oligarchical Kleptocratic Megalomaniacal plutocrats of the new techno-feudalistic dikkwads d-bags a-holes dilrods WHILST the rest of us can just shut up and be happy and totally phukked and absolutely contented with LESS if not nothing at all. People ONLY believe that or go along with that shit 💩 WHEN they don't ACTUALLY phukken understand how money is made, HOW debt is created, AND of just HOW exactly currency 💵 💲 is issued; to unravel THIS knot in the cosmic dikk, PLEASE watch/listen 🎧 to the Zeitgiest Film 📽️🎥 Trilogy, OR is it a quadrilogy NOW!!?? Peace 🕊️ Luck ☘️ Cheers 🍾 Gaia ✨♾️🌌🚀☯️⭐💚
What I took away from this is that it could work if we work collaboratively and strive for a more equal society. But we know a considerable subset of society will fight this - even if it's in their best interest - because it sounds too much like socialism.
This strikes me as population denialism
TOO MANY PEOPLE
TOO MUCH GREED
MORE PEOPLE MORE PROBLEMS