Why Dawn Of DC Is A 100% Failure
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- DC Comics latest initiative, Dawn of DC, is heading down the homestretch. A successive string of failure led by bad event after bad event. Lazarus Planet kicked off Dawn of DC and Absolute Power brings it to and end. But does anyone know why Dawn of DC even happened? Plenty of fans know why it failed. Wes breaks down the Dawn of DC and explains why it never gave DC Comics fans a reason to believe things were getting better. Why Dan of DC is a 100% failure.
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Honestly the real question is WTF is Jim Lee actually doing as the "head of DC"?
Nothing as usual except appearing on Masked Singer
autopilot
jack shitt..
DC just don't care about the sales anymore.
Taking pictures of food and drawing sketches.
It all started when they started using Superboy-Prime as both their punching bag for fans, and crutch for their bad writing.
Wasted a pretty versatile villain character. He was an absolute unit in infinite crisis and afterwards with the yellow lanterns. Then recently I see panels of him sitting around getting lectured with his head down like he wouldn't have just punched everyone's head off because he was annoyed
Dawn of DC? More like: Damn you, DC.
Dawn(syndrome) of DC 🤭🤭
Warner bros should sell DC comics and keep the other Media and DC comics need a leader that loves comic and don't hate fans.
Warner brothers is about to possibly merge with Universal.
So hold tight with those hopes, that ip helps their valuation
Would you sell natman and supermam to a competitor in a terrible market while struggling
@@PaballoKobe-xh9ve I could see selling the comic studio to someone like image and retaining licensing. Essentially a reverse of what Marvel were doing for a long time.
@@TheMightyMidget dc can buy image right now 3 times over without any outside help. The only people who can buy dc and would want to is disney or universal. Thats probably the main reason why universal wants to buy WBD for the DC brand
@@PaballoKobe-xh9ve WB could buy image sure. But DC itself is a haemorrhage of money. But like I said I don’t think they would because keeping the ip helps in a merger.
If it happens it may actually be hilarious as we see ANOTHER DC movie universe implode at the starting line.
DC can do as many relaunches as they want, means nothing without improvement.
The only comics from Dawn of DC I'm reading are Green Lantern and Green Lantern War Journal. I want to know what DC has planned for Green Lantern especially Hal Jordan.
They kept pitching Dawn of DC as giving the line some kind of identity, but that never carried over into the stories imo. It's just something to slap on the cover
You can add the Jon Kent mini-series to the list of failures. He's now nothing more than a background character, and frankly, redundant.
Well to be fair, he doesn't have to be more. Only way to save the character IS to Franklin Richards him and rebuild him from start
So comics have had the Gold, Silver Bronze, Modern eras...and now the Wet Chili Fart era we're in now!
It's really sad to see this for DC. They deserve this though. These is so much potential and it is completely squandered.
Your being generous for using the words Decline and Failure to describe this
I personally miss Jeremy Adams flash run because his series was freaking fantastic and ten times better then si superior flash book in my opinion.
Have you read his Green Lantern? I loved Williamson and Adams on Flash. Never been Spurrier fan.
@@VicRattleHead28 i have read his green lantern book it's really good
"Tom King fans." Hmmmm.
Nope. Still doesn't make sense.
Tom king from what I've seen has a very specific way of writing.
It's not bad, but it clear, he should never be placed on in charge of any series.
That's meant to be longer running.
It's worked though. Wonder Woman is steadily in the top 20 selling comics now, whereas it wasn't even in the top 50 before.
It’s sad to see DC failing.
Agree with you that it is a failure as an overall initiative but not a total 100% failure when it comes to individual comic series like jeremy adams green lantern, joshua williamson superman.
I know Warner has bigger financial fishes to fry than their print division, but for a company with so many financial headaches; you would think at least somebody in those ivory towers would dust of their high school economic schoolbooks to fix this.
They gave Aquaman a happy end with his wedding. They don't want to touch THAT. Especially with the horrible movie sequel
Aquaman books sales were very poorly. Just leave the character alone.
When your company has forgotten how to master bread and butter, you starve ... your clientel seeks nourishment elsewhere.
You forget, Wes, that thorne sidelined hal almost completely during his series. Also, we didn’t have a green lantern book for a year after Thorne’s garbage was mercifully cancelled early. So we didn’t really see Hal for 2 years. Even then, Morrison’s run was so incomprehensible that I’d consider Adam’s’ series the first good GL book we’ve gotten since Venditti left in 2018.
I'm still annoyed that V-man ends his run with Hal and Carol getting together, then Grant pairs him up with Eve in the gap with no elaboration.
Especially since this seems to be the pattern for their pairing, at this point ...
@@trolleymouse personally had a lot of issues with the Morrison run but that ending for the “v-man”’s run always felt like it came out of nowhere for me (especially since he broke them up in the first place and got her together with Kyle in the new 52) so it wasn’t the worst of it for me. Creating the blackstars and having Hal join them only months after guy became a darkstar was ridiculous to me.
@@kenlsten4651 I called him V-man because I couldn't remember how to spell Venditti. I've since had time to look it up.
Seriously, I'm not actively following comics and I think there are too many events, I didn't even blink properly at Knight Terrors and we were already moving on to another one.
DC just can't make something good or compelling anymore. This is one of main reasons of why I refuse give DC a new chance in buying your books again. Dawn Of DC is boring even Superman titles lost your quality when PKJ leaved Action Comics. DC is prone in doing very bad decisions. Just fire Tom King and another hacks writers,clean the entire house and start hiring people that truly loves and understand these classic characters. Because when Batman books stop to sell this will be the death of the entire publisher.
They named it dawn of DC , but all that it was really is the fall of DC
Thought on the dawn of dc zurr failsafe Gotham war and also Bruce messing with Jason brain
Batman story
@@Hadjdjdjfjfnffn don’t forget about Bruce loosing a hand
@@mohammadbashammakh but what you're thought on it
@@Hadjdjdjfjfnffn my thoughts on these recent Batman ( stories) is that they aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on , they’re awful and not fun , and they made Bruce looks like a fool
It’s because of two things. DC fired Dan Dido that was the first mistake and the second mistake was that Jim Lee brought over the same fail writers that fail at Marvel. If DC had actually leadership than they would be in a better position.
I can't say firing Didio in itself was a mistake. He already let a lot of the activist writers in and killed any good ideas DC had by himself like HiC destroyed what Rebirh was building up and the leaked awful plans for 5G. One good thing I can say about Didio is he at least seem to understand this was a business and not just a Tumblr-esque fanfiction factory.
i just don't get it.... you would think either DC or Marvel would break out of this current comic rut and produce unwoke comics and take over the market share with good dam comics. sheez. do they get that much money from ESG funds?
The controlled, very intentional demolition of everything I loved about Rebirth killed DC comics for me. Heroes in Crisis, Metal, Death Metal, Bendis is coming, etc.
Dawn of DC was a blatant fake reboot where they added zero good writers, which is the only thing that can help DC. Pay some good writers, keep paying the good artists, stop making everything "pride."
Beast World was good? Did we read the same comics? 'Fun'? It was stupid. And it's another reason why this Hollywood backed Event failed.
It was very average and fizzled out at the end but given the even worst events DC has had it was A+ sadly.
@@kelpietales4503 I refuse to compromise my standards. It's STILL bad and not worth collecting, even if other books are worse. It's still a D at best. Which is MY opinion, no one else's.
One of the biggest missteps in recent history for DC.
They needed a new revamp like what
Rebirth did for them and instead they produced really nothing of note and spread the same writers as thin as they could.
The current Batman is terrible, Joshua Williamson shouldn’t be on Green Arrow, it feels like PKJ is spinning his wheels on Action Comics Superman at this point, it feels like there’s no life in it at all.
It feels like a waste.
Green arrow is actually pretty good, and the current Superman and green lantern titles have been solid… sorry your favorite characters are struggling
Pkj isn't even on action anymore
It's a shame considering the Superman and Action Comics Dawn of DC run was pretty decent to good.
Williamson Supermna lost your quality in the latest issues.
@EvandroACruz It's still relatively decent though.
I think DC missed an opportunity to make a good Batman series where Batman fights Owlman,
If you remember dark crisis, Owlman died a pretty good death and said a lot of things about how he was a good idea.
So why not use him for a story?
I know Owlman is an Earth 3 character but, whats stopping him from trying to commit omnicide?
I only payed attention to the earth 3 run that gave Owlman a new origin (which I love by the way)
I also only read the failsafe story with Batmans backup personality, but that ended up getting confusing because I missed a few issues and Joker year 1 confused the hell out of me.
I’m a big DC fan, but the last time DC excited me was the start of rebirth and the promise of re-establishing core relationships such as Green Arrow & Black Canary, Barry & Wally, the Wolfman/Perez Titans, etc. I eagerly hoped Wonder Woman would instrumental in helping the main characters break through the lies of new 52 to reclaim their tried and true identities, feelings, and connections. Instead, WW wasn’t even motivated to find out why her returns home had been a lie.
DC doesn’t need another reboot. It needs an editor in chief that cares about the characters and good stories which do not go out of th way to contradict a rich history which should be mined for the nuggets of gold and the diamonds formed over time. Every book should pass these questions before release: does it contribute to the longevity of the character(s), does it make sense in the context of the DC larger world, and is it close to what fans want (not the current writer’s isolated fanfic or need to express himself or herself- reserve that for original series with original characters).
When Dawn of DC started, I started to read most of the books like Superman, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, etc. But when the Knight Terrors event started and realised I had to wait ages for these series to continue, i couldn't be bothered to wait for the continuation of any of these comics and dropped them, never looked back since. And the last new DC comic i read was the Batman Christmas mini-series. So yeah, if i want more DC stuff, there's always their old stock...as always.
I forgot this was happening, as I stopped buying DC comics when bendis cucked out Superman and made everyone else gay.
How did he cucked Superman? I didn't get a chance to read it.
When you begin to realize that Mark Waid and Alex Ross penultimate classic Kingdom Come was trying to warn us about this very future we are now living in.
DC peaked with rebirth
The only thing that could save DC is to fire everyone in editorial and talent. Then bring in actually talented writers and some of the artists need to be replaced too. Most importantly, They need a new editorial direction which focuses on the characters and telling entertaining stories. Finally, leave the extreme political views out.
Wow, nobody saw this coming. DC doesn't have a single title I am buying. Bane and Batman are in my top 5 favorite characters. That is a problem.
How is detective comics unreadable? I think it’s one of the only good books dc is putting out. V obviously respects the characters and continuity. The pacing isn’t great, but the art and story have been engaging.
Very boring. I dropped after 10 issues.
Like I said, the pacing complaints I can understand. It’s been a slow burn, but nearly all of the things he built up in the early parts of the arc are coming into play now. Also it’s one of the few DC ongoing books that has had no event interruptions during the run.
Hellblazer has been very good. Wesley Dodd, Sandman has been terrific. Otherwise, TAKE PRIDE in all that failure, fellas.
Bueno es niel gaiman que está a cargó del universo the sadman
100% failure? Come on, there were at least a half dozen great titles that came out of it. Overall failure? Sure. Total and complete? No
Like 85% failure
Oh grow up
@@thereseemstobeenanerror1219
I don't think replacing "Titans" with "Justice League" in Beast World's title would have helped as the Titans themselves are popular in their own right but how DC events have been going probably lowered most people's enthusiasm. Or they just don't like furries or Tom Taylor. Fair enough.
I do have to agree the Titans have some of the blame in the BW mess. Not because Gar was dumb, transforming into Starro was the only way to stop the Necrostar from taking over Earth and better than getting a real one like Batman and Mr Terrific were going to because got tonmake them look bad for Beast Boy to look good. I'd say it was bad the Titans didn't seem to care much about the cult that jump start the event as well as had their friend as a member and rather plant trees. As well as Raven not being aware the evil self she was supposedly so careful about letting out wasn't in the damn gem and her evil self was the one that started the whole thing and now she's trapped instead.
As a Titans fan this has been a sadly underwhelming era for them especially as supposed League replacement. Not to mention the dumb retcon to Starfire's origin and how Raven's been handled.
The too many reboots killed dc rebirth was the most interesting
New 52 very intriguing
And after Crisis is legendary
I can't say anything good for dawn of dc
Not surprised
REMINDER:
The VERY FIRST DC COMICS Will become Public Domain in 82 Months. Th First DC Comic Released is More Fun Comics in 1935. After that 2 Years Till Superman gets out.
They are struggling against the dying of the Light. And they WILL FAIL.
Nothing at DC lasts long enough for me. I love Doom Patrol and I wish it lasted longer. But it gives me a chance to read the older stuff. Plus Dawn of DC actually brought back Birds of Prey which I actually enjoy but the stories are just so short
I’d put in a word for the Wesley Dodds and Jay Garrick books. Like Worlds Finest, they’re kind of their own thing not really connecting to the Dawn dumpster fire, which I guess is why I like them.
Titans deserved better! They only got to shine (as the A team) near the end and after unpopular events and stuff like Knight Terrors, which flooded the market with tie-ins.
Wait stop, Beast Boy insn't stupid! There'd be no earth left if Gar didn't transform and it's DR. HATE (Rachel's darkside) fault that he turned.
The Titans have been screwed over time after time since Post Crisis. Sure, there were a few good bits here or there, but by the time the New 52 kicked in, the Titans never truly recovered, and even Rebirth wasn't enough to save it.
@@brandonscott4808 They need a passionate writer to really refresh, add further depth and challenges to the Titans... not them aiding in a rain forest 😄 not rehash of plots... they need a new writer.
@brandonscott4808 pretty much. Infinite Crisis and Post IC/OYL was the start of the fall of the Titans in terms of them being DC's punching bags. Potential squandered for the team and individual members so they can constantly use them as canon fodder or traitors tryign to do a new Judas Contract or Terror of Trigon. New 52 just eradicated their history and DC still doesn't know what to do but NTT or 03 cartoon fanservice in a pretty boring book.
@galg1839 indeed. Personally, if DC had a better handling on their multiverse and just limit it down to 10 to 20 Earths, I would let the Titans have their own Earth so it would make it easier for writers to not worry about one another's continuity or grabbing a character away to be in another heroes solo book who has less involvement in the run (just like how DC kept doing to Nightwing over the decades).
I just got back into comics last year at the beginning of 2023. I have actually enjoyed some of the DODC stuff that's been out. Not ALL of it but I'm reading Batman And Robin, Shazam, Wonder Woman, Superman 78, Batman Off World, Kneel Before Zod, Power Girl, Wesley Dodds Sandman and Beast World. While they're not mind bending philosophical definitions on life and heroism, they're entertaining enough reads. That's really all I ask for. Keep the politics out of it and just make it a fun read. I've barely touched anything in Marvel over the last year because they're so obsessed with multiverses and Miles Morales, Which is sad as I used to be a big Spider Man fan. Now it's everything Miles and they turned Peter into a bearded hipster douche.
the only character to get a good push was Shazam with Dan Mora and he left the book to work on events.
DC needs a clean back-to-the-basics reboot, but New 52 shows that they can't let go of neither canon like the Sinestro Corps War, nor continuity like Batman and the multiple Robins for fear of losing reliable reprint money. They just don't have the guts to take the risk, certainly not in this market.
Not another reboot, holy shit theyve done it too many times
@@kadegetslaid634 DC will never return to greatness until they jettison the legacy junk - Dick, Donna, Wally, Roy and the rest are teens again and the JSA are on a parallel world, among other things. Batman is Gotham's first superhero, not Alan Scott. DC's heroes need to be special again.
@nightraptor4169 so, you just hate development? Tf? You want everything to stay the same forever, that's absurd
@@kadegetslaid634 It depends on what develops. "Troia" is not an improvement over Wonder Girl. Two Flashes - Barry and Wally - is not an improvement over one Flash. A dozen Flashes, including Jay Garrick, are not an improvement over once Flash for that matter.
@nightraptor4169 I love multiple flashes, but yeah troia is terrible but at least she's getting development
it was an empty half hearted effort with no real direction or intention. Just a banner slapped on another pointless reboot. They wanted the hype and substance of rebirth or to trick people into thinking it was rebirth 2.0 but it wasnt.
I like Shazam series. It’s fun
I'll lift my head above the parapet. I like Tom Kings Wonder Woman so far, hated every book he's ever written. Saying that he CAN write, and so far so good, I'm hopeful. The backstories are a different matter, never liked Trinity. I liked the first 2 story arcs in Batman, Chip's not that bad. Haven't read Gotham War yet though. Tini Howard's involved so not looking forward to that one. World's Finest, Green Lantern, GL: War Journal and JSA are all solid, again back stories suck (though I'll always take a Ron Marz - Rayner story). Nightwing & The Titans hit the spot sometimes with Tom Taylor. I love the these characters in particular, grew up with them so I'll take what I can get, though I do have a limit. Detective Comics is also pretty good with Ram V. Although, this all will change and soon, the price is way too much now and keeps rising!
Future State was the official death of DC comics. Gotham City where crime and property value never matter, embraced surrendering their personal info to a military police force guilty of over policing, racial profiling and mass destruction while rejecting Batman cause he’s rich and punched the Joker in the Hoo-ha for killing so many citizens. The Black Batman was introduced cause every one wants to be Trent Reznor. 🤷♂️ Nothing important happened. It was quietly swept aside for Dawn.
What insufferable crap. How can these idiots keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result?
Dawn of DC title made no sense at all. It was just a catchy title with no substance behind it.
6:45 hit the nail on the head, Wes
Unstoppable Doom Patrol was solicited as a 6 issue mini series. During the halfway mark they announced a 7th issue. I personally enjoyed it probably because of Burnham’s art.
I just want a good Red Hood and the outlaws book with the Dark Trinity. Tom Taylor is weird fucking writer. He make fun stories but soon has he wants to do "important issues" he makes the worst shit possible. I never seen a writer purposely play to their weakness so much.
The current Red Hood book sucks.
I stopped caring about new Characters when they abandoned Yara florr
They did her dirty.
I started during Dawn of dc unfortunately so it’s always gonna be my reference but I share plenty of the gripes you’re talking about
What the hell was Dawn of DC? It wasn't an event nor was it a relaunch. it reminds of Krakoa X-men post Dawn of X(which was a relaunch) ya know Reign of X, Destiny of X, Fall of X, Fall of the house of X.
Dan Dido totally screwed DC up!
I'm so lost with Batman and Dawn of Dc. It seems that after issue 135, there were only volumes one and two. Since then, Dc has only released issues and no volumes. Did Dc decide to just quit making volumes dye to poor issue sales?
It has a few bright spots. GL, Superman but little else. Sad. I love DC and its heroes.
I was so geeked for Chip to be writing Batman especially with Jimenez’s art and honestly I’ve been so disappointed. It’s just been really bad in my opinion.
I think "Down" of DC is more suitable name for this stuff.
At least Jay Garrick the flash has been good. Thank you Jeremy Adams.
Oh good, another "event" coming up. EDIT: and Shazam is once again a silly, nonsensical character/story. How about make him a "serious" part of the continuity DC???
They may have been trying to do what what worked in the past with the armor suit without understanding the story well enough i e the silver age storyline where superman can't use his powers temporarily because a red star goes supernova or has a solar storm ,or something along those lines,and it is close enough to earth when it happens that red solar radiation temporarily blocks the yellow sun's rays and superman uses a supercar made from kryptonian tech or something to make up for his temporary lack of powers intil the red solar radiation dissipates lol!!!
The dawn of whaaaa?????…….. Honestly even if I wasn’t too cynical empathy of marvel and dc, I wouldn’t even knew they had some sort of event and would just be more likely burned out. And how did tomorrow king wonder woman sales were higher? I thought it would’ve sank even further, after ww gotten multiverse power something and then some plot armor that she goes back and fighting darkseid something…….. Lets face it, dc comics are everywhere and throwing “spaghetti on the walls” *air quotes* and the entire wall is filled with spaghetti which the previous spaghetti have rotten and made the room smell so bad, it will kill a person the moment they smell it.
The moment they did the death metal and that after event name I forgot or perhaps way before that from doomdays clock, they were destined to die as they registered their fate to it. I still think the super hero super power and plot armor reaching too much pointless, even they “nerf” superman, they plot it wrong and gave the armor from a questionable enemy is even further stupid. Like I said, the power scaling has reach to the point that it’s impossible to nerf them without wiping out the entire dc lore and the history completely. And no, it’s not like how dc reset their universes as the way they do is smoke and mirrors to look like they reset it when they kept the old universes junk from the curtains and falls out from it which the dc say it was a joke to save faces and been doing this fake reset for so long as the first crisis event and the new generations don’t give a crap about it or the current stand of the new dc as well as older readers starting to notice when trying to explain the endless rabbit holes of dc which they starting to realizes the so many continuities errors that either some realizing it and acknowledging it or just plain out denying it because my guess its all a dream and that these god like super powers are imagination limit to what they can think and making up words to look like alot when it isn’t.
I think dc comics have finally ran itself to the corner and unable to get out from it like a bad drug addiction.
All of these events mean nothing if they don't remain set in stone. Why bother acting as if anything matters when another event will just happen again? Nothing is sacrosanct. This is why Crisis On Infinite Earths was a mistake.
Once DC Comics realized that they can just reincarnate their comic book universe as a gimmick to trick comic book fans out of their money, DC Comics began to stand for Deceptive Con Comics. I gave up on DC after Zero Hour: Crisis In Time. And with good reason. It's been nothing but a soulless corporate cash grab time and time again ever since.
Zero Hour ruined Legion of Super-Heroes and Hal Jordan forever. I miss Pre-Crisis Era.
If you can't get your A listers right what is DC really hoping for? DC has been on the downslope since the end of rebirth. From death metals, to infinite frontier, to dawn of DC. It's been kinda a disaster. 😕
A bit biased against Tom Kings Wonder Woman here. Wonder Woman didn't just increase sales a "little bit", it was one of the only successes in Dawn of DC along with Action Comics. Both comics are firmly in the top 20 now, where they weren't even in the top 50 before.
There are currently 4 Dawn of DC books in the top 50 sales as of January 2024:
Batman (4th place)
Action Comics (18th Place)
Wonder Woman (19th Place)
Superman (24th Place)
Before Dawn of DC, Batman was around the same, Superman was only just in the top 50 and Wonder Woman and Action Comics were well out of the top 50.
Dawn of DC was definitely a failure with there being only 4 comics in the top 50. I've read most of them and for the most part the comics were just as bad as before Dawn of DC with a couple exceptions. I agree with Green Lantern being one of them. This is the best Green Lantern we've had in a while and hopefully it gets more popular.
I'm currently reading DC comics from 2007 (Justice League vol.2 precisely) and all I see and think about new Dawn of DC thing and 2024 DC comics overall, is how HORRIBLE and SHALLOW ilustration is. I remember years back when I thought 'hey look at these pictures, the details!! imagine what comics will be like in 2020s'... How wrong I was
I had more fun reading JL vs Godvilla vs Kong than I did all of Dawn Of DC. The dang Chicken Devil guy is running circles around these dorks. Green Lantern is the only book in my pulls because I'm sticking with my boy Jeremy.
I am new to buying DC comics so I'll just stick with collecting Rebirth and I'm gonna get some reccomended stuff from guys like Wes, Dok, Ya Boi Zack.
From what I see Dawn Of DC is mostly shit
At the end of the year DC is releasing new "DC Finest" graphic novels which look almost identical to Marvel's Epic Collections. These look fantastic and a great start for those new to collecting DC. The Batman one especially which collects 1986-1987 Detective Comics and Batman, including Year One and Two. I would highly recommend getting these for some great classic stories.
@@VaughnEsper thanks man
I'm gonna check them out for sure
Batman, Green Lantern and Flash probably
Those books are just sitting there with minimal buyers. I go over and look at both marvel and dc shelves. Dawn of dc is just a ghey relaunch
Dawn of DC just IS coming here in France, and i quite liké what i read (jsa and superman, still have to read titans and titans). Compared to the dread we've got since years, that's a a bit of fresh air
Dawn of Gay C was a disaster
😂
Just like N52,Rebirth and Infinite Frontier. DC lost your way in the past decade.
I agree. After Dark Crisis, which was decent, Dawn of DC has been a failure. I enjoyed New 52 and Rebirth. Both reboots had much better comic lines, hype and marketing. Besides Superman and Batman related titles, the rest of Dawn of DC has been meh at best.
Haven't read City Boy or Spirit World but I thought The Vigil was good. Along with Superman by PKJ, Flash by Adams.
Only following the trades for Detective but so far liking Ram's run. It's slow but so far it feels like we've been making progress for each chapter.
Never read the events. Not interested in them.
The only thing truly positive that came out of Dawn Of DC, imo ...was the discovery of artist DAN MORA.💯
So for over 8 minutes I just heard how terrible DC is right now...why the hell would I, or anyone, buy anything but Marvel with that kind of endorsement? Be blunt for all Marvel's problems they still have a cadre of titles that are just better then DC. Even Spider-Man which everyone says is mediocre is better then Batman right now. Dawn of DC should have been called Yawn of DC....cause that is all I have heard about for 18 months now. So when I just grabbed Cobra Commander #2, Ultimate Spider-Man #2, and Vengeance of Moon Knight #2 this past week to read...you know why. These 3 are better then the entire DC line with exception of Superman..and I trust Wes on Superman because I think he and I see the character in the same light. Thank you Wes. Sidenote: Punisher just concluded with issue #4...anyone surprised it turned into a mini-series suddenly? I am not. Piece O Stupidity. WTF20.
West is paid to hate, make up your own mind, enjoy what you enjoy, DC is still better than marvel and most manga
With all the alphabetical characters coming out of the closet in a short period of time , they might’ve as well called it dawn of Gay C ( C stands for characters )
I disagree that its a 100% failure. Titles like Green Arrow, Flash and even Wonder Woman (which I know you haye Tom King), have entertaining storylines. Overall, these 3 titles are better than their prior creative teams. Also the revamped Birds of Prey is really good so far. You may despise Tom King, but his first 6 issues in WW have resulted in a much needed sales boost for the title.
I agree, Wonder Woman's sales have gone up a lot! Flash isn't doing too good though...
I basically used Dawn of DC as a jumping off point.
The Titans' problem was DC giving the writing duties to Tom Taylor.
Eh… green lantern, Superman and green arrow have been my favorites..
10:53 They literally just did that in Action Comics WWS
Joker year one of as way worse than joker war. It was chip trying to be Tom king . It was almost Gotham war bad
Awesome work mate
Birds of Prey is actually good to me bc I wanted to see Big Barda again in comics
Another thing I completely skipped without giving it a thought... 'sigh'
Hello Thinking Criticalytes!
Im starting to read JL (2017) 'the Timeless'. So far its pretty cool.
I will have to respectfully disagree, I honestly loved Dawn of DC. It introduced some pretty cool characters, and I think all the stories were written well.
Hey Dawn of DC was great for Shazam! so there's that... yeah, I know, I know the writer is messy.
With Waid leaving are you gonna pick up Shazam! again?
I don’t know how you keep reading these trash stories. I gave up on and quit collecting comics in 2010, I’m no Karnak but I saw the writing on the wall back then.
More like the Lawn of DC...spread with manure.