That is a matter of opinion.. I rather liked the original layout, where position on track and speed, was the difference on and off. Truly a mans man track
@@917guga For sure I know, but just look at quali times from the early 2000s and compare them with todays. The field is much closer even in the merc dominated hybrid era. Unassisted ontrack overtakes are about the same as 20 years ago.
@@ColonelAckerson117 just look at those raced today when DRS was disabled (rain,..). They gave us the best races Germany 2019, Eifel Gp, turkey 2020 Till the half. Of course in all this races the conditions were bad. Nevertheless you could really deal how the drivers tried to “learn” the drive ein front to take every single possibility instead of waiting for the straight for an easy pass. Those situations shows more the difference of the driver instead of the car.
THERAZORKILLE - typisch deutscher Schwachsinn >.< ...scheiß auf Volksbelustigung.. mein Freund der Baum ist besonders da ganz wichtig.. sollen'se doch die alte und die neue Nordschleife auch bepflanzen.. und am besten auch gleich noch alle restlichen Freibäder zukippen und ne Grünfläche draus machen. Aber hauptsache E-autos die auch schon vor über 100 Jahren gegurkt sind durchdrücken und das als Fortschritt verkaufen... klar.. Strom kommt ja aus der Steckdose.. Braunkohle?...nööö.. ken Problem.. sieht man zwar noch vom Mars aus - die Baggerflächen... Aaaaber so ein unnützer Hockenheimring!? - kommt uns nicht in die Tüte!
Concordo, mas errou ao ir pra Ferrari, lixo de equipe queimou o filme dele, errou também em aceitar ser escudeiro do alemão, não tô tirando mérito do alemão, mas esse é o meu ponto de vista.
Remember these are just 2001 spec cars. Imagine racing with 2004 cars here, that can rev past 19000 rpm compared to 18000 rpm of 2001 cars. Sadly, the old Hockenheimring never sees 2004.
Classic BIAS, thinking something was better than really was instead after lots of years. Ferrari unit was far way better, since they won all of the titles
@@wildcathendrix7305 classic BMW butthurt, since their so called „sporty” brand is one of the „winningless” brands out there in major motorsport classes, moto or auto.
O fato é que as pessoas não entendem nada de f1 e tampouco dão valor ao que é de casa. Rubinho e Massa são exemplos disso. Dois feras super respeitados lá fora e aqui criticados ao extremo. Mas eu sou fã dos dois.
OMG i have forgotten that, epic attack, by rubens, epic defense by dc!!!!! And yes no penalties......... . pure old school racing! Not pussy drs and full of cruppy rules racing of todays f1
Legendary sound, Legendary circuit. Too bad both had been castrated in the name of gree(n)d. Note: look how quickly the gaps grow in just a few laps. This circuit separates the men from the boys.
@@sonu0548 green policy is created the same way fossil fuel policy is created. Via sly government “donations” which are quite literally bribes. Sure green is still the way to go, but I ain’t doing it at the hands of the “other” or any rich elite.
Dear god I miss this race track :( why did f1 get tilke to destroy this track? Extremely fast, flowing and we got the hear those glorious V10’s screaming their valves off 👌🏻
I remember the race quite well like yesterday. Though, visiting the now deceased Ostkurve a couple of weeks ago, it seems more like a century from nowaday circuits :-( Miss the real F1 motor sound as well.
Nem me diga Vicente!!! Que sim maravilhoso!! Sou viciado em PlayStation, e faço questão de jogar os jogos antigos só para escutar esta sinfonia!!! 👂🏻👂🏻👂🏻👂🏻👂🏻✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻
Engraçado é o Barrichello erguendo o braço reclamando, o Couthard tava defendendo posição não era retardatário não, tava certo ao dificultar a ultrapassagem, ele que lutasse como lutou e conseguiu, se ele reclamasse menos e fizesse mais, teria sido um piloto muito mais bem sucedido.
No artificial overtakes.. if you wanted to do it, you had to earn it. No DRS BS. And Hockenheim was fantastic with those long straights in the forest. Damn shame that we don't have it anymore.
Não entendo como tem pessoas que falam que o Rubens não pilota nada e outras que o colocam no patamar de Alesi, Berger, do próprio Coulthard, sendo que tá bem acima destes. Essa ultrapassagem foi difícil, o Coulthard fechando toda hora e o Rubens pegando por fora quase perdendo o vácuo.
Great display of attacking and defensive driving, that Mclaren is damn quick in a straight line, by the looks of how out of shape DC is getting in some of the corners I'm guessing they are running a but less wing than Ferrari.
Yes, Barrichello had fresh tires. This was actually his second pass on Coulthard in the race. That McLaren was aerodynamically very efficient, so even with a power deficit the McLaren was still very fast in a straight line, even though both McLaren and Ferrari were completely owned by Williams in this race.
Barrichelo sempre foi um ótimo piloto sou muito fã dele o problema é que nos bons tempos de Ferrari ele era o capacho do Shumi infelizmene mas obrigado por tudo Rubinho mito como sempre !!!
A Ferrari pagava bem os segundos pilotos trabalharem para a equipe. Infelizmente o Rubinho pegou essa época Schumacher/Ferrari (mas o cara também é lenda). Massa também deu azar. Mas condenar os dois por não terem título é muita burrice. Os caras pilotavam demais. Sem falar que quando os carros eram feitos pra eles, ganhavam fácil. Rubinho com um carro bem acertado e do gosto dele, dava muito trabalho pro alemão.
Was this a more exiting battle than today? Yes. But the nostalgics have to remember how ultra-uncompetitive the grid was back then... The gaps between cars were so huge (especially with Msc in the Ferrari) that battles like this were extremely rare
One of the good side of these type of track is that the track and the car in the center of the action and you feel the speed. Whereas in modern circuits , the grandstands , spectators tribunes and every other thing are so gigantic that the cars and the tracks looks miniscule and the sense of speed is totally flattened.
blackrose917 Wouldn‘t say most of it. On some tracks yes but on many tracks the records got broken in the race and also in quali and back then refueling was still allowed so thats certainly also a factor. But Im with you that the drivers worked more on the wheel than nowdays, todays car are just planted to the ground.
@Jay Em I said nothing about G-Forces my man, I just said that back then they had to work/correct more on the wheel because the cars had less grip, because of less downforce and grooved tires. So while the loads on the body are higher today, the amount of work on the steering is less, which is quite clear when you compare the onboards from different eras.
Back in the day where there was no tyre and fuel saving and no/barely overheating tyres when following an opponent. I hope F1 gets better with the new front and rear wing in 2019.
I absolutely love this layout, but the comments about this legendary circuit being unfairly altered are getting really tired. It was an engine killer, the chicanes weren't wide enough to actually allow overtaking, and the only place for spectators was along the pit straight/stadium section. To put more grand stands along the straights would require removing a lot of trees and adding walls to protect fans and marshals. The current layout is a much better spectators circuit. Yes I think the current layout could use another long straight, but it makes perfect sense why they altered this layout. T4 hairpin at the current layout sees more overtakes and overtaking opportunities each race than you would see in 5 races at the old Hockenheimring.
The racing could be a bit staid, but the cars were epic. Tyres you could really push, traction control so maximum acceleration. Also, the old Hockenheim. Completely unique. Nothing like it on the calendar. Absolute travesty it's gone forever. Very German - a little bit odd, extreme, and thrilling.
Rubens, um dos melhores que já vi em A1-Ring - Austria, Gilles Villeneuve - Canadá, Silverstone - Inglaterra, Hockenheim - Alemanha. Senão fizesse assim dessa vez ia ficar a vida inteira atras do escocês.
That's what I call a fight! DC fought like a lion, it looked pretty much lost alredy after 0:26 and basically surely lost after 0:42. Somehow, he held the position for another entire lap, despite the completely unnecessary defense at 1:46. WOW!
Rubinho com certeza foi um dos melhores pilotos e mais técnicos de todos os tempos da F1, ao contrário de que muitos brasileiros pensa. Infelizmente existia um tal Alemão na mesma equipe que ele, que por sinal também era extraordinário.
Grazie al cazzo... Con quella macchina anche un bambino poteva superare... In resto, ha accettato come un schiavo il ruolo de guardaspalle per Schumacher... Aveva tanto da imparare a che riguarda l'orgoglio! Per esempio da... Eddie Irvine!
What a move by Rubens...
back when Hockenheim still majestic
That is a matter of opinion..
I rather liked the original layout, where position on track and speed, was the difference on and off.
Truly a mans man track
R.I.P. Old Hockenheim!
And not a single DRS was used that day
Gustavo Santos da Silva just look at the splits after 20 laps. Worse than these days.
Cold Pete, back then they had refueling during the race. So the diferent strategies made sometimes for these big gaps.
@@917guga For sure I know, but just look at quali times from the early 2000s and compare them with todays. The field is much closer even in the merc dominated hybrid era. Unassisted ontrack overtakes are about the same as 20 years ago.
Gustavo Santos da Silva How is that good? These cars were already bad for racing and the refuelling made on track action pointless
@@ColonelAckerson117 just look at those raced today when DRS was disabled (rain,..). They gave us the best races Germany 2019, Eifel Gp, turkey 2020 Till the half.
Of course in all this races the conditions were bad. Nevertheless you could really deal how the drivers tried to “learn” the drive ein front to take every single possibility instead of waiting for the straight for an easy pass.
Those situations shows more the difference of the driver instead of the car.
V10 Hockenheim full no DRS and two guys big cojones lets go to the batle
Please bring back the old circuit it was so so much better
Even if they wanted to they can't any more as it's not there. They would need to rebuild it.
sjsharp2007 they could rebuild it tho the outline is still there
they could but I don' t think they will
The German Green Party (the reason why old Hockenheim was destroyed in the first place) wouldn't allow it to happen.
THERAZORKILLE - typisch deutscher Schwachsinn >.< ...scheiß auf Volksbelustigung.. mein Freund der Baum ist besonders da ganz wichtig.. sollen'se doch die alte und die neue Nordschleife auch bepflanzen.. und am besten auch gleich noch alle restlichen Freibäder zukippen und ne Grünfläche draus machen. Aber hauptsache E-autos die auch schon vor über 100 Jahren gegurkt sind durchdrücken und das als Fortschritt verkaufen... klar.. Strom kommt ja aus der Steckdose.. Braunkohle?...nööö.. ken Problem.. sieht man zwar noch vom Mars aus - die Baggerflächen... Aaaaber so ein unnützer Hockenheimring!? - kommt uns nicht in die Tüte!
E falar que o cara não pilota nada é pura maldade!! Pilotava e pilota muito!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Concordo, mas errou ao ir pra Ferrari, lixo de equipe queimou o filme dele, errou também em aceitar ser escudeiro do alemão, não tô tirando mérito do alemão, mas esse é o meu ponto de vista.
@@ricardodepaiva6195 Concordo!! Mas acredito que seja o sonho da grande maioria dos pilotos de F1, inclusive o próprio Senna tinha este desejo!!
@@JLMECKO1 Também concordo contigo
Just showing how powerful the Williams V10 was, Montoya was already a pitstop clear of Michael in 3rd place before 20 laps...
Bmw engine actually
Remember these are just 2001 spec cars. Imagine racing with 2004 cars here, that can rev past 19000 rpm compared to 18000 rpm of 2001 cars.
Sadly, the old Hockenheimring never sees 2004.
There was a pitstop already i think in this race for michael and the others but not sure if they did a 2 Stopper
Classic BIAS, thinking something was better than really was instead after lots of years.
Ferrari unit was far way better, since they won all of the titles
@@wildcathendrix7305 classic BMW butthurt, since their so called „sporty” brand is one of the „winningless” brands out there in major motorsport classes, moto or auto.
i hate how Barichello is underrated here in brazil, along with many others, here people only have love for Senna sometimes
triste isso.
O fato é que as pessoas não entendem nada de f1 e tampouco dão valor ao que é de casa. Rubinho e Massa são exemplos disso. Dois feras super respeitados lá fora e aqui criticados ao extremo. Mas eu sou fã dos dois.
I love Barrichello, but Senna was Senna...
Do you think because he was never a world champion has something to do with it?
@@imthebestdirector Obviously.
Two F1 legends fighting, one of the most epic battle ever.
Coulthard is not a legend
They both werent legends, but solid drivers not more
yes they were, they were wingman legends and I don't mean that as an insult
they both drove really well, and with David fighting a lack of rear grip.
Barrichello este é nosso Barrichello do Brasil!!!!!!!! Aplausos da torcida ferrarista mostra tudo na ultrapassagem !!!!vlw Rubinho !
Julio Cesar Silva Julio 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Agora que estamos sem pilotos na F1, estão vendo o quanto Barrichello e Massa são bons, o piloto que passa décadas na F1, ele tem que ser muito bom!
Junior Lima o Barrichello era um bom piloto. O problema era que ele freava e acelerava com o pé direito e por isso o michael era mais rápido.
@@netinho100387 Lembro que quando o alemão tomava o carro de Barrichello, tinha que mudar os pedais, tinha uma onda dessas
@@juniorlima7172 no entanto, parece que isso foi apenas no primeiro ano. De pois ele passou a utilizar o pé esquerdo para fretar.
When the F1 was really F1. Excellent performance by Rubens Barrichello + Ferrari F2001 V10
"Por fuera" !!!
Fantástico, Rubens !!!!! 😎
Missing that days with a real engine and an amazing circuit !!!
Yes this was real racing, on a real race track, with real cars, by real men. The REAL F1.
A real circuit!!! Top speed and high down force at the last sector... A real challenge for mechanics!!!
Nice real racing boring af racing with huge gaps. I became a F1 fan in early 90s and saw all the v10 era. It was cool, but it was very boring
the racing was boring as fuck though, take your nostalgia glasses off, i loved the sound of the cars back then, but man the racing was shit,
@@rapha22kMyb but the V8 era was definitely better than V6 era.
"real real real real real real real"
Imagine those absurd long straights in todays f1. Absolute lovely
Oh the old Hockenheim 😁☺️ Amazing stuff, thanks 👍
0:20 omg those downshifts
This old Layout 😍
OMG i have forgotten that, epic attack, by rubens, epic defense by dc!!!!! And yes no penalties......... . pure old school racing! Not pussy drs and full of cruppy rules racing of todays f1
Super quick and spectacular driver throughout his entire career! Legend!
0:11-0:20
1:40 - 1:44 too
2:30 - 2:33 !!!
Such a Great Race Track.
After i watched this, i figured out that a real racers does not need DRS to overtake car front of him. What they need is total determination.
There was barely any overtake during those years, the fuck are you talking about lol
Legendary sound, Legendary circuit. Too bad both had been castrated in the name of gree(n)d.
Note: look how quickly the gaps grow in just a few laps. This circuit separates the men from the boys.
in the name of fraud
@@violentshemp7776 What fraud??
In the name of money.
It’s a damn shame we can’t ever get back to these days
@@sonu0548 green policy is created the same way fossil fuel policy is created. Via sly government “donations” which are quite literally bribes.
Sure green is still the way to go, but I ain’t doing it at the hands of the “other” or any rich elite.
Fantastic Rubens! like in F3 times when he always beat David ...
Amazing Quality! =)
Dear god I miss this race track :( why did f1 get tilke to destroy this track? Extremely fast, flowing and we got the hear those glorious V10’s screaming their valves off 👌🏻
I remember the race quite well like yesterday. Though, visiting the now deceased Ostkurve a couple of weeks ago, it seems more like a century from nowaday circuits :-( Miss the real F1 motor sound as well.
Best sound. Love Old circuit
Tempo bom que ronco lindo musica pros meus ouvidos pena que acabou
Nem me diga Vicente!!! Que sim maravilhoso!! Sou viciado em PlayStation, e faço questão de jogar os jogos antigos só para escutar esta sinfonia!!! 👂🏻👂🏻👂🏻👂🏻👂🏻✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻
@@JLMECKO1 Certissimo!
O cara fica a um palmo de outro formula à 300 km por hora , e depois passa por fora!!!
Barrichello um dos pilotos mais técnicos da F1, em uma senhora ultrapassagem, contra um piloto que engrossava o caldo sempre.
In english, please
@@norwegiantroll2480 Put on Google Translate.
Só por não ter o Galvão falando merda, vou deixar um like🤙🏼
Engraçado é o Barrichello erguendo o braço reclamando, o Couthard tava defendendo posição não era retardatário não, tava certo ao dificultar a ultrapassagem, ele que lutasse como lutou e conseguiu, se ele reclamasse menos e fizesse mais, teria sido um piloto muito mais bem sucedido.
@@rsimasdasilvasimas Eu acho que ele tava mandando a torcida vibrar, "eu acho".
@@rsimasdasilvasimas acho que ele tava mandando ele tomar no cu "vai tomar no seu cu carai se fuder pra lá porra aqui e rubito barrichelo"
Nesse dia quem narrou foi o Cléber Machado senão me engano kkkk
Look at those rear wings!!! Nearly horizontal!!!
Taí dois pilotos que mereciam um título!
Sim, outro piloto que também merecia um título era o Montoya três pilotos incríveis que não tiveram um título
@@CanalFull33 sim! Montoya foi um piloto arrojado!
No artificial overtakes.. if you wanted to do it, you had to earn it. No DRS BS.
And Hockenheim was fantastic with those long straights in the forest. Damn shame that we don't have it anymore.
Ultrapassagem na pura coragem....Valeu Rubinho !!!
Love the racing on the old course. Such a shame it was dismantled. I do not watch the new Hockenheimring races now!
What a neat move... n what a sound !! Simply awesome
Não entendo como tem pessoas que falam que o Rubens não pilota nada e outras que o colocam no patamar de Alesi, Berger, do próprio Coulthard, sendo que tá bem acima destes.
Essa ultrapassagem foi difícil, o Coulthard fechando toda hora e o Rubens pegando por fora quase perdendo o vácuo.
Great display of attacking and defensive driving, that Mclaren is damn quick in a straight line, by the looks of how out of shape DC is getting in some of the corners I'm guessing they are running a but less wing than Ferrari.
I think coulthard's tires where poor compared with the Ferrari.
Yes, Barrichello had fresh tires. This was actually his second pass on Coulthard in the race. That McLaren was aerodynamically very efficient, so even with a power deficit the McLaren was still very fast in a straight line, even though both McLaren and Ferrari were completely owned by Williams in this race.
this route had to be used again in # F1 longing for these lines
Hockenheim ist nicht mehr das, was es einmal war. Great Racing. Danke für den Tandemflug durch Hockenheims Waldgeraden an Barrichello und Coulthard.
I miss these cars and this circuit
Permanecer por tantos anos na formula 1 realmente não eh PR qualquer um, Barrichello foi um piloto de altíssimo nível.
Não é pra qualquer um mesmo ficar esses anos todos e não levar nenhum título parabéns Rubinho seu jumento 🐴🐴😂😂😂
@@evandrolima2328 pelo visto tu e um piloto bem sucedido, como faz pra participar da formula 1?
Barrichelo sempre foi um ótimo piloto sou muito fã dele o problema é que nos bons tempos de Ferrari ele era o capacho do Shumi infelizmene mas obrigado por tudo Rubinho mito como sempre !!!
A Ferrari pagava bem os segundos pilotos trabalharem para a equipe. Infelizmente o Rubinho pegou essa época Schumacher/Ferrari (mas o cara também é lenda). Massa também deu azar. Mas condenar os dois por não terem título é muita burrice. Os caras pilotavam demais. Sem falar que quando os carros eram feitos pra eles, ganhavam fácil. Rubinho com um carro bem acertado e do gosto dele, dava muito trabalho pro alemão.
That overtake 🥶🥶🥶🥶
the old Hockenheim Course, thar was the best Formula 1 Times Rubens was a fantastic F1Driver iam a big Fan
Linda a ultrapassagem
Was this a more exiting battle than today? Yes.
But the nostalgics have to remember how ultra-uncompetitive the grid was back then... The gaps between cars were so huge (especially with Msc in the Ferrari) that battles like this were extremely rare
One of the good side of these type of track is that the track and the car in the center of the action and you feel the speed.
Whereas in modern circuits , the grandstands , spectators tribunes and every other thing are so gigantic that the cars and the tracks looks miniscule and the sense of speed is totally flattened.
with DRS, Rubens would get him at 0:54 for sure
No drs, no kers, no ers... just big motors & nice fight !!
Insane! But finally Barichello GOT him!! 👍
Second time in the race
Saudades de rubinho bela ultrapassagem
man even tought today cars are faster....they look super sluggish cimpared to this....brinh back old rules
camera fps did that. looked faster but slower in real life
Cars today weigh significantly more as well
blackrose917 Wouldn‘t say most of it. On some tracks yes but on many tracks the records got broken in the race and also in quali and back then refueling was still allowed so thats certainly also a factor.
But Im with you that the drivers worked more on the wheel than nowdays, todays car are just planted to the ground.
@Jay Em yeah but more stability do to a longer wheelbase.
@Jay Em I said nothing about G-Forces my man, I just said that back then they had to work/correct more on the wheel because the cars had less grip, because of less downforce and grooved tires. So while the loads on the body are higher today, the amount of work on the steering is less, which is quite clear when you compare the onboards from different eras.
Back in the day where there was no tyre and fuel saving and no/barely overheating tyres when following an opponent. I hope F1 gets better with the new front and rear wing in 2019.
Barrichello é um ótimo piloto
Ultrapassagem de quem conhece, Barrichello é o melhor , sou fã pra caramba dele o piloto mais injustiçado no por alguns brasileiros
Rubinho é um piloto brabo demais!!!
What a fight!
1:24 🤣🤣🤣 but Jesus, Barrichello at least deserved one championship...
What is funny?
Amazing.
I love this old track
What a fabulous circuit.
La ricordo come fosse ieri questa gara. Un'ottimo Barrichello, una Ferrari straccia record❤
Dois grandes pilotos
E tem gente que ainda desdenha da capacidade do Rubinho... tocada espetacular
😥 a track which gave so much fun for all the fans around the world 😥
Fantastico!
Rubens Barrichello He was my favorite!
I absolutely love this layout, but the comments about this legendary circuit being unfairly altered are getting really tired. It was an engine killer, the chicanes weren't wide enough to actually allow overtaking, and the only place for spectators was along the pit straight/stadium section. To put more grand stands along the straights would require removing a lot of trees and adding walls to protect fans and marshals. The current layout is a much better spectators circuit. Yes I think the current layout could use another long straight, but it makes perfect sense why they altered this layout. T4 hairpin at the current layout sees more overtakes and overtaking opportunities each race than you would see in 5 races at the old Hockenheimring.
On the new layout, the section from the hairpin to the stadium should be a straight , the succession of slow corners there is useless.
The racing could be a bit staid, but the cars were epic. Tyres you could really push, traction control so maximum acceleration.
Also, the old Hockenheim. Completely unique. Nothing like it on the calendar. Absolute travesty it's gone forever. Very German - a little bit odd, extreme, and thrilling.
Wauv.. the sound were both are thundering out in the forest. Noise must have been trembling in the chest
Rubinho Grande piloto!!!
Rubens, um dos melhores que já vi em A1-Ring - Austria, Gilles Villeneuve - Canadá, Silverstone - Inglaterra, Hockenheim - Alemanha. Senão fizesse assim dessa vez ia ficar a vida inteira atras do escocês.
epic!!!!
That's what I call a fight! DC fought like a lion, it looked pretty much lost alredy after 0:26 and basically surely lost after 0:42. Somehow, he held the position for another entire lap, despite the completely unnecessary defense at 1:46. WOW!
These were race cars on race tracks. Today we have truck-racing on city circuits.
Show Barrichello 🇧🇷🇧🇷
valeu rubinho
Rubinho com certeza foi um dos melhores pilotos e mais técnicos de todos os tempos da F1, ao contrário de que muitos brasileiros pensa. Infelizmente existia um tal Alemão na mesma equipe que ele, que por sinal também era extraordinário.
1:51 I thought he was going onto the grass, the car didn't want to turn 😳😳
Respect
Overtake for seminars by Rubinho!!!
Único defeito do Rubito foi ter nascido no Brasil, em qualquer outro pais seria reverenciado. Esse cara é um monstro.
Isso é que era motor...Rubito era muito foda
Isso sim é um circuito de fórmula 1.
Não este da Alemanha de hoje!!!
esse v10 soa como música para os meus ouvidos!
E os motores de hoje soam como uma " música" do pablo vitar rsrsrs.
Nice moove from Rubens.
Bring back that v 10 beast
Well done, Rubens!!! Forza Ferrari!!!
the v10 baby,s on good old hockenheim
Muito bom!
Quando era in forma Rubens non era male! Ma quando era in forma? Nostalgia per il vecchio hockeneim!
SOUND!!!!
Grazie al cazzo...
Con quella macchina anche un bambino poteva superare...
In resto, ha accettato come un schiavo il ruolo de guardaspalle per Schumacher...
Aveva tanto da imparare a che riguarda l'orgoglio!
Per esempio da... Eddie Irvine!
Great overtake.... and germans cheering ferrari instead of mercedes
Why wasn't the overtake onboard shown?
Would have love to see onboard of that pass....some move and im a DC fan.