Gary, I agree with everything you have said about the team. If we as supporters know that Antonio etc should not be starting why can’t Loppi see it? He isn’t stupid so I ask myself why? He can’t be blind can he? What does he really think? Let’s hope he changes the personnel soon. COYI ⚒⚒⚒
They won't. I strongly suspect Saturday was their final dance . May start the carabao cup game at anfield. And that's it . Premier league no chance . The way jlop was screaming at them I suspect that's them done .
Can't believe some of the other channels calling for Loppy's sacking. He fucked up last week with his line up but he did change it at half time which was as soon as he could. Realistically it makes too much of a damaging statement to players if they get hooked midway through first half and he needs to keep the enitre squads pecker up as you never know when you may need to rely on them. The proof of whether he is as aware as we hope will be his starting line up for Saturday. I want to see Todibo to start and midfield of Avarez, Paq, Soler, Somerville, Bowen, Kudus but ill take Alvarez, Rodriguez, Paq, Somerville, Bowen and Kudus.
I think a telling factor on Saturday was the introduction of Soler. Which personally I believe will be the last we see of Soucek as a starter. If Fulkrug had of been fit I think Antonio wouldn't have started either. I really don't understand some of our fans wanting Loppy out already, ffs give the bloke a chance. Decent summary Gaz and a well balanced piece. Keep it up fella. Well done sir.
In ref to Soucek, "I have a BAD feeling bout this one"! Meaning, I think Lopetegui will try to force feed us his away tactics😢😢. At the mo, Soucek is part of that. Someone else in creative offensive position will be sacrificed, or would have been, had Fullkrug not been available.
Cheers Barrington, I don’t think it’s any more than common sense and being a little bit fair on a brand new manager with a brand new squad of players. He might turn out good in the end and he might not, but he must be given a proper chance
I agree with you Gary, us West Ham fans need to stop banging on about Duran as it smacks of desperation. As far as I am concerned Villa messed us about and kept moving the goal post and we have to move on, that ship has sailed. Let's just look forward and focus on the season ahead, we have enough talent at the club and once they gel we should have a strong team. My only concern is Loppi not picking his strongest side in the starting 11. Let's get behind the team and Head Coach.
Hi Gary...good video again and looking forward to seeing your planned content. Loppy? One of the biggest criticism of Moyesy was his abject refusal to change it when the World could see what was wrong. Looks like he can throw his hands up and admit he was wrong by changing things as soon as possible. 5 subs wasnt it? Ings was a stroke I never saw coming...😮 We are all about dreams....but what if, after another game or two....they dont fade and die? Still excited for the potential...COYI ⚒️⚒️⚒️
Yes Ranger and many have conveniently ignored that by dismissing it with "well he just fixed the problem he created" and yes he did, but at least he was a big enough man to realise the error and correct it.
I believe we have not started badly, when you have so many new players come in, the team needs time. I completely agree with you gary that Lopi kicks every ball. I truly believe we will have a good season. I do wonder if they are playing certain players for the January transfer window. If a player is completely out of the team why would you pay top money. Danny ings and Antonio i believe can still do a job. It winds me up about Duran, people keep banging on if if if. If my Aunt had balls she would be me uncle.
I know mate, the Duran thing really should be put to bed. I fear though it will just escalate, the only time it will stop is if and when Fulkrug shows people he can actually play. I wonder what they'll say if that happens? Maybe "at last he's done what I wanted him to, about time" or something passive aggressive like that.
Considering that Lopetegui’s style is technical and possession-based, and both Soucek and Antonio are technically poor, the only thing that makes sense to me is that Lopetegui’s pragmatism has seen him try to minimise the disruption of a new boss, new style, and loads of new signings by over-prioritising continuity to begin with. Football management is ultimately about results and perhaps he reasoned that too much change too soon could heap on the pressure if results didn’t follow, particularly with the tough early run of games. It will be interesting to see what happens now given he hooked both Soucek and Antonio at half time against Fulham with immediate improvement to performance.
yes Iron Robin great points and I think this is likely the reason behind it - he wants gradual change because in his view it probably feels less risky. I wish we could know where exactly each member of the squad is regards readiness for the PL. I think unless we know this we’ll be second guessing and making assumptions. But as you rightly say, all about points and personally I didn’t think we’d have 4 points already even though I back us to win every game, coz ya know, of course I do 😂
Total agree with you Gary. I was prepared for a slow start with all the new signings and Julian getting his way of playing across to the team. Hoping that Todibo is getting fitter and him and Kilman that would definitely make us stronger at the back. Once Soler is up to pace he’ll replace Soucek. So 10-12 games will be a marker⚒⚒
yeah I think 10-12 and as long as keep picking up a reasonable number of points in the meantime, it’s likely as good as any new manager could have done. The armchair managers really don’t have a clue what it is like to manage in the Prem. I don’t know either, but at least wait a while and make a fully informed decision. At the moment it is just being reactive
Bang spot on about Mavro, Fullkrug, and everything else. Danny scoring proves to me that he’s not just making up wage. If he scores from the bench and picks ups points, not to mention what he does for the starters by being a solid squad mate at practice . That will be an earned wage imho. As usual tho Gary, your sensible analysis is much appreciated! COYI⚒️
yes Greenbadge, hopefully we all do though I have my doubts about that given the level of fury. Tbh I was really happy at the end - elated in fact - to have nicked a point. It was only on the way home I had flashbacks to the first half.
Thank you for your comments, Gary. I totally agree senior pros (who train hard) should be given a shot - Danny Ings is the name that springs to mind. However if he's studied the team before joining, he should know what is what. Don't need a coaching badge to know what Souchek is. Going back to your JWP v Souchek comments Coufal has been replaced which was more urgent. We could never totally rebuild in one or two windows and we have done a great job with our signings. The jury is out on Füllkrug - as you say he needs to learn the premier league and also learn playing with the likes of our more attacking midfielders.
Yeah I think the jury is still out on anyone who hasn't yet player like Fullkrug and Todibo. I'm also concerned about Paqueta because I think my reaction to not seeing Soucek perhaps let him off with what was a very average 2nd half performance. I wonder if the old Paqueta has left for good?
Hi Gary, I am away on holiday in Kefalonia, met up yesterday with a fellow Hammer while on the island of Ithaki. He's from Basingstoke now but a true Hammer. He's around same age as me in the sixties group. But it was really good to actually talk to some one about the past, from when we were 1st aware of the Claret and Blue colour and what it meant to become a family member. You could do a talk with older and younger fans on your site and get some interesting stories that way?
I had it in my head that I needed to give Loppy time and that I wasn’t going to listen to the criticism that would undoubtedly come with a new manager…. So I was thinking that we will see different tweaks as the first 12 or more games progressed and allowing time for players to get used to a new style and set of tactics…. But what I didn’t expect was to see Loppy play players from last year continuing to do what they were doing under Moyes … seeing new and old players playing out of their best position and seeing the same old mistakes and play from Moyes stalwarts like Soucek and coufal etc and yet despite them doing that picking them for the next game to start…. I would rather he experimented with the new additions and see us trying to play a more attacking game rather than just pick players and positioning that is not going to achieve anything significant indeed only give us more of the same old problems that we have all talked about and know….. I would have no problem with our results so far if the starting line ups were trying to find a balance and improving game to game…. But we just seem to be stuck with the same problems with no real solution game to game… it’s like we have a garage full of Ferraris yet our chauffeur wants to keep driving the ford mondeos… or when he decides on the Ferrari he just wants to drive it in reverse…!
I didn’t expect him to play Soucek or Antonio but I guess as he is not Moyes and treats the whole playing staff fairly, some kind of transition with senior players was inevitable
yeah but again Maltese, he’s allowed to make mistakes now, he just isn’t allowed to keep repeating them. He knows he got it wrong, nobody has to tell him that
If, but and more on Duran for what? Like our previous manager we will hear the name time and again, both are history - gone so get over it. Totally agree on Antonio, perhaps give minutes in the last 10/15 minutes in a game if required. So true on Soucek. That starting lineup at Fulham must have made all regular fans shudder. I think the time to judge the coach is at the end of November when we will all have a better idea where we are headed.
So comparatively, we are 3 points better off than last season and we are still bedding in new ideas and tactics, so what's the panic. Saliba didn't start straight away for Arsenal and was gradually worked into the team, that is normal and I would suggest the same process is gonna happen with Todibo. last season, our defensive set up was an issue, but I can see a huge improvement on last season (except Emerson is a little off). The current team play in a totally different style, but you can see players are still adapting to the new demands including the centre halves, Kilman is more up to speed because he's already played under JL. The lineup was underwhelming, but you can see that JL is playing the long game and looking to building a squad mentality rather than a first team. Giving the Moyesball players a fair crack of the whip will leave no grudges when they are benched and they will be useful over the season, they aren't crap, they just aren't easy on the eye, but they are effective options.
Exactly Barrie, no panic at all, for me just a couple of questions over team selections but he's allowed to make mistakes now tbh. I can definitely see what JL is doing and I think a few players have not yet adapted to it. We are playing way way high up the pitch which hopefully will suit Fulkrug as well when he gets in.
I agree with you mate, I was devastated by the selection, it almost feels like a betrayal... you finally think the club understands what went wrong in the moyes era, you sign all these players, then the new manager does what wasn't working the last season? very worrying, in terms of underlying stats we finished 13/14th (i forget which) in expected points last season. I would expect someone that had watched us all season to know this and not attempt to emulate a failed strategy. All I can say in his favour is we got used to a loon that would stick to a plan proven not to work 100 times.. maybe lops not a chess GM but hopefully he can see when his house is on fire.
Whilst the Fulham selection was bizarre, I think the football has improved dramatically compared to last season. Reasons to be cheerful and optimistic if you ask me.
I think so too Yatesy. The fact that at some point during every game you will enjoy watching what's in front of you. It isn't for 90 minutes yet and the players are still warming to the club and the new system, but to take it to the lowest common demoniator and draw a parallel with Moyes is frankly pretty laze.
Totally agree with you Gary. Sick of the moaners give the guy some time, it already looks better he’s putting subs on at half time and not at the 85th minute and the players are playing better attacking football. COYI!!!!!!!
Hi Gary hope ye are well Sir! if Arteta was judged as harshly as some of our fickle supporters are judging Loppi he'd have been sacked by Arsenal after 12 games! FFS give the geezer a chance, this is down to Moyes and his small squad strategy, this prick cost us the Europa Lge plus Quali for Europe because of his stupid philosophies! and we are still paying the price today, cut the geezer some slack we ain't going anywhere big this season imo, its all about build so get on with it and support not only our great club but also the manager!! ps gary looking forward to the new stuff with Chris! take care now John...
Exactly John, it’s an agenda being played out. Some have been waiting patiently for the right time to start attacking because being negative is how they get their kicks
I think this squad rotation is something, as fans, we just have to accept, when you have upto 5 of your squad flying half way round the world for international games and getting back, sometimes, 1 or 2 days before a league game, I think we have to accept that there will be times when players, such as Soucek or other european internationals, will likely start games, even if it's for 45 - 60mins, as none of them are likely to be sufferring from jet lag, rest or lack of preperation time, perhaps it will settle down to a more established first 11 once all these international breaks are over.
Steve you are right actually, another positive is exactly that - he doesn’t run his players into the ground. Still think he got it wrong first half but at least he acted.
Appreciate your voice of reason Gary, common sense these days is rare on social media. IMO the players on the pitch have to take some of the responsibility for their own performance on Saturday as in general that first half was extremely disappointing and lack Luster. The manager is not the same as David Moyes, when did Mr.Moyes ever use all five substitutes let alone makes substitutes at half time. Fickle times for some West Ham fans. COYI ⚒
Hi Gary , love the chamnel. Brian Dear wpuld be a great guest for you to get on the show , he goes way back to the 60s ,i have met him , seens very approachable
Interesting David, but I wonder if he would speak openly as someone who no longer has a vested interest in West Ham? I do like him though, absolutely. The one Nigel did had a guy I’d never heard of but he shared the same youth team as some legends and gave a brilliant insight of 70s West Ham behind the scenes. I loved it, you would have as well
Agree with everything you said Gary. It is fairly obvious the start of the season wasn't going easy, either with the team or the fixtures. Liverpool is another blow for our hopes. I still things will turn round for us and things are better than with Moyes.
@GaryKillington I understand your point. Everyone needs to be on the same wave length, but at times, we have had a few players on VHF, and others still on long wave. And Antonio wandering around with two tins and a bit of string. Sharpening up is correct, and I feel that will be more quickly achieved by using a consistent lineup and best players in position. Not Kudus on the left, not Ings up front alone, not Antonio after international games and long flights. Not Paqueta when he has a sparkplug loose. And whip Mavropanos passport off him so he can't go on holiday up the pitch. I know, I'm moaning a bit. But I do still have faith that Lopetegui knows more about winning long-term than I do, so I'm all for letting him move things along at a pace he feels the team can cope with. If you want to learn to play a musical instrument, you don't start off trying to play the concertos, do you. Got to do the exercises and put in all the practice first.
The sign looks slick with the dark but fading blue Gary. Sorry to say G, as said in many Hollywood films, "I have a BAD feeling bout this one"! He has been left by his Tod(ibo). Gary, have u seen Duran, Duran's last goal. GOTS, possible candidate.
Yeah seen it and forgotten it! I know he's a good player but he also plays for villa and if you've watched me over the years you will know that I am completely and totally biased to West Ham. I really don't give a flying one about villa or their players, even ones we wanted to sign. Maybe I'll get interested again in the January transfer window, but we need him to lose a bit of form or we won't afford him. Probably won't anyway.
I think the nail on the head is that Lopetegui HAS to learn from previous decisions - eyebrows have been raised with team selections but all the new signings have benefitted from a couple of weeks training now so there isnt an excuse to embed them into the XI whether starting or utilising them properly off the bench. Soucek and Antonio simply cant start anymore and Kudus has to be moved either to the right or centre. For Chelsea Id play him on the right and bring Summerville on the left with Bowen up front. Ings isnt far away from a start and if we perhaps had Ipswich on Saturday Id play him but the strongest XI must play v Chelsea. At the back Mavropanas has been good, but as you say Gary there is error stricken stuff in him weekly so its time to start Todibo with Kilman.
I know the team I'd like to see and I've put a lot of thought into it. I've done quite a lot of research since the game at the weekend because the second half performance was kind of clouded my elation that Soucek and Antonio weren't on the pitch. But I've now noticed a few worrying trends with one player in particular. Won't say who, I'll leave it for my preview.
Agree 100% about Jhon Durán. So what if he scores for Villa? He plays for them not us. It's the sort of pointless outraged reactions made by 'Shock Jocks' who like to have everything both ways.
Yeah... I think the biggest mystery is Todibo remaining MIA. That signing seemed like there were a lot of expectations that came with it... yet we've seen more time from Soler (our newest signing). I wouldn't fret too much about starting player selection for now. While we all want to see our best starting, Loppy seems to be leaving no question on those fringe players' performances. We are still quite a way from seeing something clean, crisp and team-like from defending to attack. I'm glad Loppy has started with solidifying defense... we will have our chances on the attack once we start possessing/passing more efficiently.
The longer it goes on, Chuck, the more worried I get. The sound of silence, absolutely no news at all. We don't know if it's because of Dinos or fitness or that he hasn't settled. Could be anything.
@@GaryKillington Agreed. I'd expect that Todibo was exactly the fast-paced progressive passing player that Loppy was looking for. It'd be a shame that those expectations were that far off the mark. These central defenders are SO KEY to Lopetegui's system.
thanks Kirk, yeah I’d go for that simply because I think he’s a more functional striker at the moment, good movement, drops deep and helps out. Also not slow and can finish.
My only gripe about the weekend is him starting Antonio. it had me thinking things i didnt want to, not the tin tack. Really i think though, that when he has sorted out who is useful here or there we will see a more settled team I hope though he now sees at leasr 4 of those players as useful bench warmers and not starters. Todibo, good to at least not to hear the Moyes go to excuse , he isnt match fit, that always got my goat , but that was caused by his ....well i leave that to your imagination. if we are 15th at christmas, i wont be over worried,
Same here Ian. I think some people - because he wasn't their choice of manager - seem to think something better is waiting for us rather than we'd look like an utter basket case to fire a manager when he hasn't even had a chance. It's just an agenda being played out I think.
No one knows if Tim is in charge of hiring and firing and as far as I've seen, it's still down to Sullivan. Unless we're bottom 3 and not winning, Loppy won't be sacked. If Moyes wasn't sacked for many dire results and poor periods, then neither will JL.
Upbeat Gary? Whatever next! Great to hear it. I’m also upbeat as anything would be an improvement on Moyes! At least now we have some decent players in the squad and more choice of subs. Bring on the chelskie scum! ⚒⚒⚒
Yes that is one of my ideas, but it will have a specific focus, more to follow. I cannot disclose my secret ideas, I want to be the first to put these shows out there even if some of them are then plagiarised.
Yes I think he is. I have a feeling he will come good one day but that day is not here yet so he should return to being emergency cover. He's had his chance and Saturday was a really graphic illustration of what he is capable of.
We may not have been the better side overall against Fulham but I don’t agree with those that say we were lucky to score the equaliser. It was in truth a genuinely brilliant goal from a side that didnt give up. Huge praise is needed for that.
I haven't seen anyone wanting J lo out but if there are idiots calling for him to be sacked, then we've hit a new low. I'm hoping the injury to the German played a part in team selection. We've got to give him a minimum of 10 games before we've a real idea of how he wants us to play.
The trouble is, so many of us didn't want Lopetegui in the first place. I suppose we have to give him a chance but I don't hold much hope. I would use Ings much more, Moyes totally disrespected him. I'm not as convinced that it was a great transfer window, just a good one maybe.
Did he though? Unless he had signed a pre-contract and knew he was coming here, did he pay any more attention to us than any other clubs? I think he said that around the time he had his interview, so likely a bit of positive spin.
Have we ever, I mean literally EVER written off an expensive striker before he has even started one league game? To write him off means you are just parrotting someone else's narrative and not forming your own opinions. That or you decided you love Duran so much that nothing Fulkrug ever does will live up to it.
I don't know what the state of the squad was, but he soon changed his mind and reverted to what he should've started with - in my view. In fact the second half line up was pretty much what Chris and I thought would be the starting line up. I liked it. I think he's still learning and I like to think he was quite surprised how bad Soucek and Antonio actually were. If I was a new manager I'd be surprised that's for sure. I wouldn't actually expect two PL players to be unable to pass or hold a ball, these are bare minimum expectations for a football player.
People saying he is Moyes 2.0 are morons and im glad you pointed out all the differences. Honestly im willing to wait to judge at the end of the season cos it's all going to take time but for me so far so good... I trust in his way of process of elimination. He start Aguard JWP.... Gone... Been starting soucek and now as no.10 to prove he can't be played anywhere.... Will be now a squad player..... Antonio i think will still get started until fullkrug is fit but i hope bowen starts playing up front and him drop to the bench.
That wasn’t the full list it was just the few I remembered while doing the show. I listed about 10 stark differences a few days ago in a few minutes, they are genuinely chalk and cheese.
We don’t need to use two holding mids against teams like Fulham…Alvarez is the only cdm needed against teams on our level we need solver and paqman playing together they can play the creative passes and interpass between themselves really well
I think what is more concerning is his inability to utilise Kudos in his best position. Game by Game he is becoming more n more frustrated and its there for all to see fella
It’s an issue but not the biggest one. Step one has to be stop leaking cheap goals, I’m pretty certain the top end of the pitch will eventually fall into place. Kudus was off the boil at the weekend and he too had just got back off long haul. He was ok but not top drawer. I think the second half formation is a good one
Lopetequi needs to explain why he played jet lagged 34 year old Antonio instead of giving Inngs a chance or playing Bowen up front . There was no excuse possible. Lopetequi is making life difficult for himself with these totally mind boggling decisions.
I think the signal that his team is functioning correctly is first of all we stop conceding self inflicted goals. I suspect that is what he's more focused on at the moment because if you keep conceding, you will not win many. It's what most managers do when building a team - solid base first, so we've got to be patient even though sometimes I''m not either. I think it's fine to be reactive immediately after a game but beyond that surely you have to see the bigger picture - 4 games, 1 win, 1 draw, 2 losses to CL opposition including the Champions. Also in the next round of the League Cup.
Spot on Gal, but Antonio + Scoucek are useful but not in the starting 11. Bring on when needing a box crasher and a hold up player. Loppy still finding his team imo
@@GaryKillington yeah let's hope so and I'm in favour of giving him a fair chance as we can see some changes and difference, way too early to call. Think a lot of fans ear marked the fulham game for radical change, but he knows he's made a mistake and changed it quickly.
@@GaryKillington I don't think Antonio cares about what's best for West ham, in fact I don't think he's cared for a long time. He would have been off a long time ago ..... No room for sentiment in football, I don't care how good he has been for us in the past
One last Duran comment lol. He still hasn’t signed with Villa. I’d be offering Villa 10 million in January with only 6 months left on his contract. If they knock it back give Duran a big signing on bonus and sign him on a free
Evening Gary. I'm afraid we've got Moyes mk2.. We're playing Moyesball just 10yds higher up the pitch. Still no idea how to create an attack and score at the end of it, defence leaks goals from nowhere, midfield passes sideways and backwards and just as slowly as under Moyes. Lopetegui also sets up not to lose as the priority and if we can smash & grab something he's content. Rhetorically, if you can explain to me why Antonio and Soucek get anywhere near the 1st eleven with the talent we have in this squad, because it's fkn beyond me. Moyes had a decent sized squad, not as much quality, but still a good squad and stuck with his favourite 12 or 13 players. This mug is gonna be exactly the same. Gutless managership and doesn't;t know what to do with real talent. And can anybody PLEASE fkn tell me why Antonio takes long throw in's into the position where he should be to get on the end of it. Jesus H fkn Christ..
If you can't see the difference with how we are playing and how moyes played, then you must be blind, there is no way they are playing the same style, when did you ever see us trying to close down from the front, when have you seen a center back carry the ball forward under moyes, if you can't see the differences then I don't know what you are watching
He isn’t Moyes MkIi at all but people just love saying it just to spook people. When I hear people say that I just think they are lying or haven’t been paying attention
Give the bloke a chance 4 games, even Fergie took a while. My concern is how many times Fulham got crosses in from our right side, misplaced headers saved us apart from their school boy error goal, even 2nd half when we improved they got round the back easily. It happened too many times.
Well I think we also played a very good team on Sunday, so whose to say the team that started the second half would’ve been as effective against a fresh Fulham, but I get it. I didn’t wanna see Antonio or Tommy either
As much as I like Antonio he should never be starting coming back from jaica. Impact sub at best now and or rotation . We as hammer fans don't have any patience or I don't and as tough as the premier league is I do want to see the best starting eleven and get this squad sorted soon as , I want to see the best we can be pronto, I know it's going to take time but I was so sick of watching that dross last season with all this change I want the best now 🙏. Peace n chips Gary
Yeah Paul and truth be told I think we are all scarred by Moyes and that maybe makes some a little less tolerant of any perceived similarity no matter how tenuous. Gotta convince myself to go back to being patient and yeah I know I keep saying it 😂
@@GaryKillington what's interesting on your post match show with Chris you mentioned the to different takes, one chris watching the game from home and you being at the actual game . Cut this all quite short is that as an olas west hammer and with one other west ham fan out here in the middle of nowhere is we don't have any luxury of going to any game watching at the pub anywhere with fans talking to work colleagues or friends etc before the game or after, our only source of information comes from social media and I think that being said it confused us to know end with fan divide and patience ran thin for quite sometime with all the hoopla that went on in the club with moyes etc the board . We didn't have any release we can't do ffff all apart from yell at the TV or maybe the misses's ear hole 😂
Cannot say it's gone a bit Kier Starmer yet, ask this another month in. There are some worrying signs. Team selection being the major one. Lop claimed he studied West Ham for months so a leggy Antonio and a talentless Souchek should not be started. At least he hooked them early. The direct question to Lopetegui is why is he playing Souchek? What is the appeal? Dinos is a disaster per game. FA Cup and injury cover only. He's like Romero at Spurs.
I think he has inherited a few players (the usable ones left over) and they're largely senior pros, so he has to give them a fair crack. That's my theory anyway, I also think he did it because it was an away game after an international break. I suspect they are likely his reasons but I think he got it wrong and likely learned a lot about some of those players he inherited. He's a very impatient man so he won't just stick to the same players if they let him down. Before yesterday, Antonio hadn't really let him down (hadn't done much either, but worked hard) and Soucek had done all the different roles he's asked him to do. But against a footballing side who pressed, Soucek was so far out of his depth it was just painful. So yeah I think he's still learning about those senior pros and what they are and are not capable of. I expect he's surprised at just how bad they are at times. It must be bloody eye opening don't you think?
Great reply, Gary. Thank you for taking the time. Looking at commentators (trite) philosophy Souchek , Moyes etc are seen as wonders. I personally think Souchek trains his nuts of and managers like that - like Mason Mount. As for Antonio having ASD I sympathise, there's days I'm as slow as he is. When he comes back from injury he's a powerhouse then it drops off. With 20 mins to go I believe he'd be a motivated goliath. He carries a lot of muscle and that's why he gasses after 60mins motivated or not. Ultimately time will tell. Thanks again. On to the next BMS vid.
I maintain that JoLo needs half a season to work out his best squad. Also the new players need to get used to the Premier League, results will be patchy for a while.
Rob you are likely right and to be fair to you, you've been saying this from the start. But ya know, each game comes around and I'm like a kid at Christmas! Then I calm down again.
@@GaryKillington my concern for the next 10 games will be Paqueta and Kudus, both seem to have lost their enthusiasm. Paqueta coz of his charges and Kudus coz his head has probably been turned.
We need a settled side that works as hard as Captain Jarred …we were totally inept in the First Half Antonio shouldn’t have started too tired at his age as he probably ran himself out with Jamaica ..the subs made a difference so it tells you a lot …wasting all that money and not playing for instance the EPL POTY …Soucek can’t play no10 he’s too spidery get Pac or Soler in and work round that..
I agree with that, effort is an absolute minimum for me. Soucek is a simple footballer - he can break up play and he can make late runs into the box. That is about the size of it
you get Soler into that role and try to find the players who are there to cause damage - Bowen/Kudus mainly. So often our attacks stall when Paqueta chooses a bad option.
Gary, in respects to Fullkrug, and as said by Hollywood "I have a BAD feeling bout this one"! 😢😢 Why do u wish,/hope good vibes on Fullkrug and Danny Ings (sounds like a nice guy😁) and NOT Antonio 🤔🤔😕😳😒. Whoever Lopetegui picks, I want them to have a productive game for our team. (even if they are NOT good nuff).
That's all it is though Audi, a feeling. When have we ever written off a player before seeing them play in the league? The answer is never. He's being written off only because people are still pining for the player they didn't get. It's not Fullkrug's fault we didn't sign Duran, you can however blame Aguerd quite a lot
The Soucêk & Antonio cluster f**k aside, my concern is that we currently have probably the most technically gifted squad we’ve had for a while. Including 2 world class players in Paqueta & Kudus, so why aren’t we rinsing there talent and playing them in there preferred positions ? Because let’s face it we probably won’t have them next season…we may not have Kudus after January.
Yep, we drew against Villa when their season had taken a nose dive at the end. We got thrashed by Palace and Fulham and beaten without much of a fight by City. Chalk and cheese innit
Gary, is there the smallest chance that Lopetegui does not trust/rate the creative part of our central midfield area so picks Antonio (9) and Soucek (10) as awkward pain in the bum, penalty box, ball crashers. How much say did he have on the purchased players.
Yes there is and I think it is because Paqueta is not doing what he is supposed to be doing. He has not been himself this season and I think Soler might end up taking his place.
Not about to call for Loppy's head but his selection against Fulham was certainly concerning especially as Antonio is well known for coming back from International duty leggy and slow.
Fans are entitled to their own opinions,the Duran deal was a cock up because the player wanted to come,20 years old most supporters could see he was a real striker and £40 million was worth it
Ian I hope this is the last time you mention him!! Yeah we all wanted him, but it didn't happen and my point is, what is the point in talking about it 4 games into the season after the window has closed? Maybe talk about it when the window opens again? I don't hate Duran, I wanted him too. But I do think he is being used as a stick to beat the club with after they actually managed to completely rebuild a broken squad in record time. Also they got a striker just not the one everyone had expected. But he will do a job too, don't write Fullkrug off.
@GaryKillington I won't write Fullkrug off.I haven't wrote Loppy off either but I'm underwhelmed with him and I think he will keep snubbing the new signings
@@iancarvell9926 Yeah but that's normal, it means you're giving him time to prove himself. Anyone who said they are 100% sure of anything right now would be guessing I think
@GaryKillington I've supported west ham since I was born,I grew up in Suffolk with the carrot crunchers,my dad is an east ender.Im good mates with the ipswich town captain Sam Morsi so we better beat them wallies 😂 he was trying to pick my brains the other day as to how we play
I don't understand how some people still come with the attitude, "Oh, if only we had spent more money on Duran instead of buying so-and-so"... He's not there! Point! Maybe he didn't want to go to West Ham... Now look forward to the many great players that Steidten has brought on board! This is much more than expected, isn't it? Yes, the first Games were not the most attractive, I'm not blind... Every beginning is difficult. Especially with so many new arrivals!
We should not be making judgments for a couple of months, hard I know but remember new coach, new players, new training staff. So so pleased that Danny scored.
Bloody hell Gary what are people expecting after 4 games? I want us to win them all but the other teams have the same attitude and good to sometimes great players. Success is never guaranteed we can only hope if we put all the right parts together it all works.
Good point Bob, sport is not an exact science, if it was then the betting companies would not exist. It is not FIFA either where you select a group of top players, a formation and it beats inferior opposition. It is not always the case
why can’t he pick them? You mean at all? They are his players, should he kick them out then? Both will have their uses but not away to Fulham and not in that context - one knackered and one not a striker
@@GaryKillington no I didn’t just saw the headline on the video. There has been a lot of negative feelings about Lopetegui I probably assumed wrongly ,If I was was wrong I apologise.I will play the video and see what Gary says
We can’t dispel the myth he will keep picking the same players mate, only he can do that. What’s the saying about 3rd time becomes a trend? Well his poor team selection and playing players out of position (Soucek 10, Kudus left) is already a trend. I want to give him a chance but I can only judge him on what he’s actually done and I’m not impressed at all so far with the things that matter.
It isn’t a trend until he has a fully fit team to choose from. He had an injured striker and Paqueta had come back 24 hours earlier. Bad selection but I also don’t expect him to totally stop using soucek or antonio. I just expect him to stop starting them
Gary, I agree with everything you have said about the team. If we as supporters know that Antonio etc should not be starting why can’t Loppi see it? He isn’t stupid so I ask myself why? He can’t be blind can he? What does he really think? Let’s hope he changes the personnel soon. COYI ⚒⚒⚒
If Antonio and Soucel start this Sat we really will have a problem.
well tbh I don’t expect it and if it happens questions would deserve to be asked
I will lose my shit again if he starts those two 😡😡
They won't. I strongly suspect Saturday was their final dance . May start the carabao cup game at anfield. And that's it . Premier league no chance . The way jlop was screaming at them I suspect that's them done .
@@GaryKillingtonQ's have already been asked. 😅😅
@@andyarmit3284He will play him again.
Can't believe some of the other channels calling for Loppy's sacking. He fucked up last week with his line up but he did change it at half time which was as soon as he could. Realistically it makes too much of a damaging statement to players if they get hooked midway through first half and he needs to keep the enitre squads pecker up as you never know when you may need to rely on them. The proof of whether he is as aware as we hope will be his starting line up for Saturday. I want to see Todibo to start and midfield of Avarez, Paq, Soler, Somerville, Bowen, Kudus but ill take Alvarez, Rodriguez, Paq, Somerville, Bowen and Kudus.
Exactly Mark there is a time and a place for this stuff and this is really premature, ridiculously so
I think a telling factor on Saturday was the introduction of Soler. Which personally I believe will be the last we see of Soucek as a starter. If Fulkrug had of been fit I think Antonio wouldn't have started either. I really don't understand some of our fans wanting Loppy out already, ffs give the bloke a chance.
Decent summary Gaz and a well balanced piece. Keep it up fella.
Well done sir.
I concur.
In ref to Soucek, "I have a BAD feeling bout this one"! Meaning, I think Lopetegui will try to force feed us his away tactics😢😢. At the mo, Soucek is part of that. Someone else in creative offensive position will be sacrificed, or would have been, had Fullkrug not been available.
So refreshing to hear someone talk actual sense, i agree 💯 with everything you said
Cheers Barrington, I don’t think it’s any more than common sense and being a little bit fair on a brand new manager with a brand new squad of players. He might turn out good in the end and he might not, but he must be given a proper chance
I agree with you Gary, us West Ham fans need to stop banging on about Duran as it smacks of desperation. As far as I am concerned Villa messed us about and kept moving the goal post and we have to move on, that ship has sailed. Let's just look forward and focus on the season ahead, we have enough talent at the club and once they gel we should have a strong team. My only concern is Loppi not picking his strongest side in the starting 11. Let's get behind the team and Head Coach.
yes agree, the selection was wrong, no dressing it up tbh
Great vid Gary; loved the 'pining after a girl' analogy regarding Duran... "she's not gonna go out with you.." brilliant. 😂
Thanks Mr Mercury, I liked it 🙂
Great balanced video Gary. Spot on.....as usual.
thanks mate
completely agree
Hi Gary...good video again and looking forward to seeing your planned content. Loppy? One of the biggest criticism of Moyesy was his abject refusal to change it when the World could see what was wrong. Looks like he can throw his hands up and admit he was wrong by changing things as soon as possible. 5 subs wasnt it? Ings was a stroke I never saw coming...😮
We are all about dreams....but what if, after another game or two....they dont fade and die? Still excited for the potential...COYI ⚒️⚒️⚒️
Yes Ranger and many have conveniently ignored that by dismissing it with "well he just fixed the problem he created" and yes he did, but at least he was a big enough man to realise the error and correct it.
I believe we have not started badly, when you have so many new players come in, the team needs time. I completely agree with you gary that Lopi kicks every ball. I truly believe we will have a good season. I do wonder if they are playing certain players for the January transfer window. If a player is completely out of the team why would you pay top money. Danny ings and Antonio i believe can still do a job. It winds me up about Duran, people keep banging on if if if. If my Aunt had balls she would be me uncle.
I know mate, the Duran thing really should be put to bed. I fear though it will just escalate, the only time it will stop is if and when Fulkrug shows people he can actually play. I wonder what they'll say if that happens? Maybe "at last he's done what I wanted him to, about time" or something passive aggressive like that.
Considering that Lopetegui’s style is technical and possession-based, and both Soucek and Antonio are technically poor, the only thing that makes sense to me is that Lopetegui’s pragmatism has seen him try to minimise the disruption of a new boss, new style, and loads of new signings by over-prioritising continuity to begin with. Football management is ultimately about results and perhaps he reasoned that too much change too soon could heap on the pressure if results didn’t follow, particularly with the tough early run of games. It will be interesting to see what happens now given he hooked both Soucek and Antonio at half time against Fulham with immediate improvement to performance.
I honestly think he is still learning and getting surprised by how untalented some players he inherited actually are
yes Iron Robin great points and I think this is likely the reason behind it - he wants gradual change because in his view it probably feels less risky. I wish we could know where exactly each member of the squad is regards readiness for the PL. I think unless we know this we’ll be second guessing and making assumptions. But as you rightly say, all about points and personally I didn’t think we’d have 4 points already even though I back us to win every game, coz ya know, of course I do 😂
Another great episode. Love the ideas you have planned.
Cheers Jac
Total agree with you Gary. I was prepared for a slow start with all the new signings and Julian getting his way of playing across to the team. Hoping that Todibo is getting fitter and him and Kilman that would definitely make us stronger at the back. Once Soler is up to pace he’ll replace Soucek. So 10-12 games will be a marker⚒⚒
yeah I think 10-12 and as long as keep picking up a reasonable number of points in the meantime, it’s likely as good as any new manager could have done. The armchair managers really don’t have a clue what it is like to manage in the Prem. I don’t know either, but at least wait a while and make a fully informed decision. At the moment it is just being reactive
It seems Antonio is more of a podcaster than footballer atm! Another excellent vid Gal ⚒️
That was what I meant by keeping his mouth shut because when he ain’t being picked he runs his mouth off on that show
@GaryKillington sorry I'm a bit slow today lol. 😂
Bang on Gary regarding Antonio
Thanks Cam
Great video thanks Gary, I really enjoyed what you had to say and I agree with you. Looking forward to future content. COYI ⚒⚒⚒
Thank you Joan, glad you enjoyed it
Bang spot on about Mavro, Fullkrug, and everything else. Danny scoring proves to me that he’s not just making up wage. If he scores from the bench and picks ups points, not to mention what he does for the starters by being a solid squad mate at practice . That will be an earned wage imho. As usual tho Gary, your sensible analysis is much appreciated! COYI⚒️
Thanks mate, and yeah Ings is a really good bloke to have around the squad by all accounts, helps massively with team spirit
Evening Gal just tuned in from turkey can’t get my head around loppys thinking with the players he’s picking I want loopy to succeed mate COYI
yes Greenbadge, hopefully we all do though I have my doubts about that given the level of fury. Tbh I was really happy at the end - elated in fact - to have nicked a point. It was only on the way home I had flashbacks to the first half.
Thank you for your comments, Gary. I totally agree senior pros (who train hard) should be given a shot - Danny Ings is the name that springs to mind. However if he's studied the team before joining, he should know what is what. Don't need a coaching badge to know what Souchek is. Going back to your JWP v Souchek comments Coufal has been replaced which was more urgent. We could never totally rebuild in one or two windows and we have done a great job with our signings. The jury is out on Füllkrug - as you say he needs to learn the premier league and also learn playing with the likes of our more attacking midfielders.
Yeah I think the jury is still out on anyone who hasn't yet player like Fullkrug and Todibo. I'm also concerned about Paqueta because I think my reaction to not seeing Soucek perhaps let him off with what was a very average 2nd half performance. I wonder if the old Paqueta has left for good?
Love the idea of the interviews! Sounds like the kinda thing im into a real deep dive into the world of west ham.
Gonna be very good
Hi Gary, I am away on holiday in Kefalonia, met up yesterday with a fellow Hammer while on the island of Ithaki. He's from Basingstoke now but a true Hammer. He's around same age as me in the sixties group. But it was really good to actually talk to some one about the past, from when we were 1st aware of the Claret and Blue colour and what it meant to become a family member. You could do a talk with older and younger fans on your site and get some interesting stories that way?
Surely people were not asking for loppy to be fired,i think floorless just has a lot of burner accounts 😂
I have seen it written at least 5 times now, all idiots obviously, but the fact it has started already gives me the hump
Hi Gary, Good Evening from the Philippines. Loving your shows so far, very balanced.
Thanks Eddie, you probably have nice warm weather!
Where in PH are you mate?
@@garyteeley9637 In the Visayas. Are you in the Phil's too?
@@EddieSmith-k8p moving there on Monday 23rd Sept. In Bulacan
Hi Gary.
Very nice talk.
I couldn't find any fault in it.
Cheers David, appreciated
I had it in my head that I needed to give Loppy time and that I wasn’t going to listen to the criticism that would undoubtedly come with a new manager…. So I was thinking that we will see different tweaks as the first 12 or more games progressed and allowing time for players to get used to a new style and set of tactics…. But what I didn’t expect was to see Loppy play players from last year continuing to do what they were doing under Moyes … seeing new and old players playing out of their best position and seeing the same old mistakes and play from Moyes stalwarts like Soucek and coufal etc and yet despite them doing that picking them for the next game to start…. I would rather he experimented with the new additions and see us trying to play a more attacking game rather than just pick players and positioning that is not going to achieve anything significant indeed only give us more of the same old problems that we have all talked about and know….. I would have no problem with our results so far if the starting line ups were trying to find a balance and improving game to game…. But we just seem to be stuck with the same problems with no real solution game to game… it’s like we have a garage full of Ferraris yet our chauffeur wants to keep driving the ford mondeos… or when he decides on the Ferrari he just wants to drive it in reverse…!
I didn’t expect him to play Soucek or Antonio but I guess as he is not Moyes and treats the whole playing staff fairly, some kind of transition with senior players was inevitable
Great listen Gary, lots of good points you picked up on..
thanks mate
Hi Gary, would really love to find out why Loppy keeps picking Antonio and Soucek in the starting line up, they are both at best subs for us.
yeah but again Maltese, he’s allowed to make mistakes now, he just isn’t allowed to keep repeating them. He knows he got it wrong, nobody has to tell him that
Another great soothing vid Gary. Here is another idea you could put on your pile, west ham and music
Funny you should say that Stevie 😂
Great show Gal, great content mate.
Thank you Brendan
If, but and more on Duran for what? Like our previous manager we will hear the name time and again, both are history - gone so get over it. Totally agree on Antonio, perhaps give minutes in the last 10/15 minutes in a game if required. So true on Soucek. That starting lineup at Fulham must have made all regular fans shudder. I think the time to judge the coach is at the end of November when we will all have a better idea where we are headed.
Exactly Peter, well said
So comparatively, we are 3 points better off than last season and we are still bedding in new ideas and tactics, so what's the panic. Saliba didn't start straight away for Arsenal and was gradually worked into the team, that is normal and I would suggest the same process is gonna happen with Todibo. last season, our defensive set up was an issue, but I can see a huge improvement on last season (except Emerson is a little off). The current team play in a totally different style, but you can see players are still adapting to the new demands including the centre halves, Kilman is more up to speed because he's already played under JL. The lineup was underwhelming, but you can see that JL is playing the long game and looking to building a squad mentality rather than a first team. Giving the Moyesball players a fair crack of the whip will leave no grudges when they are benched and they will be useful over the season, they aren't crap, they just aren't easy on the eye, but they are effective options.
Exactly Barrie, no panic at all, for me just a couple of questions over team selections but he's allowed to make mistakes now tbh. I can definitely see what JL is doing and I think a few players have not yet adapted to it. We are playing way way high up the pitch which hopefully will suit Fulkrug as well when he gets in.
Well said Gary. He and the players needs time. That said his team selection against Fulham was at best baffling.
It was indeed Jake, I thought so too
I agree with you mate, I was devastated by the selection, it almost feels like a betrayal... you finally think the club understands what went wrong in the moyes era, you sign all these players, then the new manager does what wasn't working the last season? very worrying, in terms of underlying stats we finished 13/14th (i forget which) in expected points last season. I would expect someone that had watched us all season to know this and not attempt to emulate a failed strategy. All I can say in his favour is we got used to a loon that would stick to a plan proven not to work 100 times.. maybe lops not a chess GM but hopefully he can see when his house is on fire.
Agree with that FreakDeaky, very well put
Whilst the Fulham selection was bizarre, I think the football has improved dramatically compared to last season. Reasons to be cheerful and optimistic if you ask me.
I think so too Yatesy. The fact that at some point during every game you will enjoy watching what's in front of you. It isn't for 90 minutes yet and the players are still warming to the club and the new system, but to take it to the lowest common demoniator and draw a parallel with Moyes is frankly pretty laze.
Totally agree with you Gary. Sick of the moaners give the guy some time, it already looks better he’s putting subs on at half time and not at the 85th minute and the players are playing better attacking football. COYI!!!!!!!
I know Kirk, but moaners gonna moan!
Hi Gary hope ye are well Sir! if Arteta was judged as harshly as some of our fickle supporters are judging Loppi he'd have been sacked by Arsenal after 12 games! FFS give the geezer a chance, this is down to Moyes and his small squad strategy, this prick cost us the Europa Lge plus Quali for Europe because of his stupid philosophies! and we are still paying the price today, cut the geezer some slack we ain't going anywhere big this season imo, its all about build so get on with it and support not only our great club but also the manager!!
ps gary looking forward to the new stuff with Chris!
take care now
John...
Exactly John, it’s an agenda being played out. Some have been waiting patiently for the right time to start attacking because being negative is how they get their kicks
You're spot on. I am so embarrassed by our supporters and the constant tantrums after a handful of games.
bit of an Alan Pardew vibe going on Gary with those glasses!!!🤣
No way Mike, I have no relationships with players wives or any club staff (allegedly)
I think this squad rotation is something, as fans, we just have to accept, when you have upto 5 of your squad flying half way round the world for international games and getting back, sometimes, 1 or 2 days before a league game, I think we have to accept that there will be times when players, such as Soucek or other european internationals, will likely start games, even if it's for 45 - 60mins, as none of them are likely to be sufferring from jet lag, rest or lack of preperation time, perhaps it will settle down to a more established first 11 once all these international breaks are over.
Steve you are right actually, another positive is exactly that - he doesn’t run his players into the ground. Still think he got it wrong first half but at least he acted.
Appreciate your voice of reason Gary, common sense these days is rare on social media.
IMO the players on the pitch have to take some of the responsibility for their own performance on Saturday as in general that first half was extremely disappointing and lack Luster. The manager is not the same as David Moyes, when did Mr.Moyes ever use all five substitutes let alone makes substitutes at half time. Fickle times for some West Ham fans. COYI ⚒
Cheers Paul, appreciate it mate. The answer on Moyes is never, he never did that.
Hi Gary , love the chamnel. Brian Dear wpuld be a great guest for you to get on the show , he goes way back to the 60s ,i have met him , seens very approachable
Interesting David, but I wonder if he would speak openly as someone who no longer has a vested interest in West Ham? I do like him though, absolutely. The one Nigel did had a guy I’d never heard of but he shared the same youth team as some legends and gave a brilliant insight of 70s West Ham behind the scenes. I loved it, you would have as well
Hello Gary hope things good with you hopefully our first home win on Saturday Coyi
Agree with everything you said Gary. It is fairly obvious the start of the season wasn't going easy, either with the team or the fixtures.
Liverpool is another blow for our hopes.
I still things will turn round for us and things are better than with Moyes.
Yeah they will Ian, but I think it's not even a turn around, it's a sharpening up and Loppy getting his first team all playing well together.
@GaryKillington
I understand your point. Everyone needs to be on the same wave length, but at times, we have had a few players on VHF, and others still on long wave.
And Antonio wandering around with two tins and a bit of string.
Sharpening up is correct, and I feel that will be more quickly achieved by using a consistent lineup and best players in position.
Not Kudus on the left, not Ings up front alone, not Antonio after international games and long flights.
Not Paqueta when he has a sparkplug loose.
And whip Mavropanos passport off him so he can't go on holiday up the pitch.
I know, I'm moaning a bit. But I do still have faith that Lopetegui knows more about winning long-term than I do, so I'm all for letting him move things along at a pace he feels the team can cope with.
If you want to learn to play a musical instrument, you don't start off trying to play the concertos, do you. Got to do the exercises and put in all the practice first.
What I really want is for Lop to be given a proper chance. Is that to much to ask. ⚒
The sign looks slick with the dark but fading blue Gary.
Sorry to say G, as said in many Hollywood films, "I have a BAD feeling bout this one"! He has been left by his Tod(ibo).
Gary, have u seen Duran, Duran's last goal. GOTS, possible candidate.
Yeah seen it and forgotten it! I know he's a good player but he also plays for villa and if you've watched me over the years you will know that I am completely and totally biased to West Ham. I really don't give a flying one about villa or their players, even ones we wanted to sign. Maybe I'll get interested again in the January transfer window, but we need him to lose a bit of form or we won't afford him. Probably won't anyway.
I agree with you on your main points!
Cheers Chris
I agree gary on duran been saying it since we didn't get him hes not a west ham player so don't care what he does
Exactly Garry, it’s like cheering every time someone scores for Villa. Ffs who cares?
I think the nail on the head is that Lopetegui HAS to learn from previous decisions - eyebrows have been raised with team selections but all the new signings have benefitted from a couple of weeks training now so there isnt an excuse to embed them into the XI whether starting or utilising them properly off the bench. Soucek and Antonio simply cant start anymore and Kudus has to be moved either to the right or centre. For Chelsea Id play him on the right and bring Summerville on the left with Bowen up front. Ings isnt far away from a start and if we perhaps had Ipswich on Saturday Id play him but the strongest XI must play v Chelsea. At the back Mavropanas has been good, but as you say Gary there is error stricken stuff in him weekly so its time to start Todibo with Kilman.
I know the team I'd like to see and I've put a lot of thought into it. I've done quite a lot of research since the game at the weekend because the second half performance was kind of clouded my elation that Soucek and Antonio weren't on the pitch. But I've now noticed a few worrying trends with one player in particular. Won't say who, I'll leave it for my preview.
Ings, nice bloke Gary! We would have got Duran if he had agreed to leave.
yeah course
Agree 100% about Jhon Durán. So what if he scores for Villa? He plays for them not us. It's the sort of pointless outraged reactions made by 'Shock Jocks' who like to have everything both ways.
yep, I just do not care what Duran does. If the next window opens and we are in for him again, great. Until then no
@@GaryKillington 👍
Yeah... I think the biggest mystery is Todibo remaining MIA. That signing seemed like there were a lot of expectations that came with it... yet we've seen more time from Soler (our newest signing). I wouldn't fret too much about starting player selection for now. While we all want to see our best starting, Loppy seems to be leaving no question on those fringe players' performances. We are still quite a way from seeing something clean, crisp and team-like from defending to attack. I'm glad Loppy has started with solidifying defense... we will have our chances on the attack once we start possessing/passing more efficiently.
The longer it goes on, Chuck, the more worried I get. The sound of silence, absolutely no news at all. We don't know if it's because of Dinos or fitness or that he hasn't settled. Could be anything.
@@GaryKillington Agreed. I'd expect that Todibo was exactly the fast-paced progressive passing player that Loppy was looking for. It'd be a shame that those expectations were that far off the mark. These central defenders are SO KEY to Lopetegui's system.
And please swap out Antonio for Ings in the starting line up. Best West Ham channel on UA-cam
thanks Kirk, yeah I’d go for that simply because I think he’s a more functional striker at the moment, good movement, drops deep and helps out. Also not slow and can finish.
Good afternoon, Gary.
Afternoon Ray
Well said Gary ⚒️⚒️⚒️
Doddsy, how the hell did I not see you at Fulham, you definitely weren’t in front of me again!!
@@GaryKillington 😂😂😂😂 I was to busy ordering 8 pints for 8 pounds 😂😂😂😂😂😂
100% agreement Gary!
Thanks Ian
My only gripe about the weekend is him starting Antonio. it had me thinking things i didnt want to, not the tin tack. Really i think though, that when he has sorted out who is useful here or there we will see a more settled team I hope though he now sees at leasr 4 of those players as useful bench warmers and not starters. Todibo, good to at least not to hear the Moyes go to excuse , he isnt match fit, that always got my goat , but that was caused by his ....well i leave that to your imagination. if we are 15th at christmas, i wont be over worried,
Same here Ian. I think some people - because he wasn't their choice of manager - seem to think something better is waiting for us rather than we'd look like an utter basket case to fire a manager when he hasn't even had a chance. It's just an agenda being played out I think.
If this carries on like this until Christmas, i think loppy could be gone , now Tim is in charge of hiring and FIRING!!!
There's that famous West Ham loyalty and patience.
It won’t carry on that long and if it did, it would be perfectly fair that he came under pressure. Just not yet.
No one knows if Tim is in charge of hiring and firing and as far as I've seen, it's still down to Sullivan.
Unless we're bottom 3 and not winning, Loppy won't be sacked. If Moyes wasn't sacked for many dire results and poor periods, then neither will JL.
Dear me. No wonder talk sport, sky etc. take the piss out of our support.
Seriously! It may be the case but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves
Upbeat Gary? Whatever next! Great to hear it. I’m also upbeat as anything would be an improvement on Moyes! At least now we have some decent players in the squad and more choice of subs. Bring on the chelskie scum! ⚒⚒⚒
An idea. Interview lifelong fans who have a unique connection and history as a Hammer. I am one of those for example.
Yes that is one of my ideas, but it will have a specific focus, more to follow. I cannot disclose my secret ideas, I want to be the first to put these shows out there even if some of them are then plagiarised.
Dinos is a liability at the moment and Tobido should get his chance
Yes I think he is. I have a feeling he will come good one day but that day is not here yet so he should return to being emergency cover. He's had his chance and Saturday was a really graphic illustration of what he is capable of.
We may not have been the better side overall against Fulham but I don’t agree with those that say we were lucky to score the equaliser. It was in truth a genuinely brilliant goal from a side that didnt give up. Huge praise is needed for that.
Yeah I agree Tim, if it was City it would've been descibed as "and this is why you can never write Man City off, even when they play badly..."
Exactly!
I haven't seen anyone wanting J lo out but if there are idiots calling for him to be sacked, then we've hit a new low. I'm hoping the injury to the German played a part in team selection. We've got to give him a minimum of 10 games before we've a real idea of how he wants us to play.
Yes Dan it definitely would have in my view, he just took the wrong option didn’t he
The trouble is, so many of us didn't want Lopetegui in the first place. I suppose we have to give him a chance but I don't hold much hope. I would use Ings much more, Moyes totally disrespected him. I'm not as convinced that it was a great transfer window, just a good one maybe.
Hi Gary I’m worried about him he said he watched West Ham last season i think he might b talking out of his ass 🤷♂️⚒⚒
Likely he did keep an eye on us but did he study us meticulously? Did he know he was definitely getting the job? Probably not so why would he?
Villa saying if whu want Duran in the winter window,we will have to pay 50 mil plus .
If he carries on scoring goals in numbers then his price will be even higher
For a manager that had apparently studied us before getting the job he seems clueless
Did he though? Unless he had signed a pre-contract and knew he was coming here, did he pay any more attention to us than any other clubs? I think he said that around the time he had his interview, so likely a bit of positive spin.
Can’t believe how fullkrug is being written off
Have we ever, I mean literally EVER written off an expensive striker before he has even started one league game? To write him off means you are just parrotting someone else's narrative and not forming your own opinions. That or you decided you love Duran so much that nothing Fulkrug ever does will live up to it.
Agree about Antonio but why does Lope pick him? Or Soucek?
I don't know what the state of the squad was, but he soon changed his mind and reverted to what he should've started with - in my view. In fact the second half line up was pretty much what Chris and I thought would be the starting line up. I liked it. I think he's still learning and I like to think he was quite surprised how bad Soucek and Antonio actually were. If I was a new manager I'd be surprised that's for sure. I wouldn't actually expect two PL players to be unable to pass or hold a ball, these are bare minimum expectations for a football player.
People saying he is Moyes 2.0 are morons and im glad you pointed out all the differences. Honestly im willing to wait to judge at the end of the season cos it's all going to take time but for me so far so good... I trust in his way of process of elimination. He start Aguard JWP.... Gone... Been starting soucek and now as no.10 to prove he can't be played anywhere.... Will be now a squad player..... Antonio i think will still get started until fullkrug is fit but i hope bowen starts playing up front and him drop to the bench.
That wasn’t the full list it was just the few I remembered while doing the show. I listed about 10 stark differences a few days ago in a few minutes, they are genuinely chalk and cheese.
We don’t need to use two holding mids against teams like Fulham…Alvarez is the only cdm needed against teams on our level we need solver and paqman playing together they can play the creative passes and interpass between themselves really well
Away from home we probably do, because we were under the kosh. Both Rodriguez and Alvarez were excellent. At home maybe not
Maybe Dino could play RB when Wan Bisaka goes to the left.
Yes Randy, that would definitely work
I think what is more concerning is his inability to utilise Kudos in his best position.
Game by Game he is becoming more n more frustrated and its there for all to see fella
It’s an issue but not the biggest one. Step one has to be stop leaking cheap goals, I’m pretty certain the top end of the pitch will eventually fall into place. Kudus was off the boil at the weekend and he too had just got back off long haul. He was ok but not top drawer. I think the second half formation is a good one
Lopetequi needs to explain why he played jet lagged 34 year old Antonio instead of giving Inngs a chance or playing Bowen up front . There was no excuse possible. Lopetequi is making life difficult for himself with these totally mind boggling decisions.
What has Ings done to get a chance, honestly? He has been as bad as Antonio for a long time.
Does he need to explain himself? To who? He can do his explaining with an improved selection next game
@@williambuckley5601Got his head down and worked hard in training apparently
@GaryKillington Maybe but doesn't take away what he did . Best to forget and look ahead posetivily I agree
Jittery start to loppies tenure, not the exciting football I was hoping for...still have faith ⚒
I think the signal that his team is functioning correctly is first of all we stop conceding self inflicted goals. I suspect that is what he's more focused on at the moment because if you keep conceding, you will not win many. It's what most managers do when building a team - solid base first, so we've got to be patient even though sometimes I''m not either. I think it's fine to be reactive immediately after a game but beyond that surely you have to see the bigger picture - 4 games, 1 win, 1 draw, 2 losses to CL opposition including the Champions. Also in the next round of the League Cup.
Spot on Gal, but Antonio + Scoucek are useful but not in the starting 11. Bring on when needing a box crasher and a hold up player. Loppy still finding his team imo
yeah he is Terry and he is just giving the old guard a fair crack. The selection was wrong but I am sure he knows that now
@@GaryKillington yeah let's hope so and I'm in favour of giving him a fair chance as we can see some changes and difference, way too early to call. Think a lot of fans ear marked the fulham game for radical change, but he knows he's made a mistake and changed it quickly.
A footballers job includes keeping fit enough to play for 90 minutes when needed, why when we buy a player there never fit enough to play ?
Well Fullkrug got injured playing for Germany, I am more concerned with self inflicted fatigue from Antonio
@@GaryKillington I don't think Antonio cares about what's best for West ham, in fact I don't think he's cared for a long time. He would have been off a long time ago ..... No room for sentiment in football, I don't care how good he has been for us in the past
Gary, this is not the first time Antonio throws his toys out of his pram. Antonio should be on the bench and moved on in January transfer window. 😊
I'm reluctantly with you Ray, albeit we would need to sign a replacement if we did that.
Duran ain't hear get on with it and support our team 9 new players it will take time guys
Exactly Rob
One last Duran comment lol. He still hasn’t signed with Villa. I’d be offering Villa 10 million in January with only 6 months left on his contract. If they knock it back give Duran a big signing on bonus and sign him on a free
If that is right than it might be the strategy, who knows? It might be Tim trying to outwit the great Munchi!
Wait until 10 to 12 games and then judge him.
yes Adam
The great bill shankly always said don’t look at the table until Christmas !
Yeah I know Steve and I think I need to keep telling myself that too. I get carried away with optimism sometimes but need to calm it down a bit
Evening Gary. I'm afraid we've got Moyes mk2.. We're playing Moyesball just 10yds higher up the pitch. Still no idea how to create an attack and score at the end of it, defence leaks goals from nowhere, midfield passes sideways and backwards and just as slowly as under Moyes. Lopetegui also sets up not to lose as the priority and if we can smash & grab something he's content. Rhetorically, if you can explain to me why Antonio and Soucek get anywhere near the 1st eleven with the talent we have in this squad, because it's fkn beyond me. Moyes had a decent sized squad, not as much quality, but still a good squad and stuck with his favourite 12 or 13 players. This mug is gonna be exactly the same. Gutless managership and doesn't;t know what to do with real talent. And can anybody PLEASE fkn tell me why Antonio takes long throw in's into the position where he should be to get on the end of it. Jesus H fkn Christ..
Clueless, as per the typical West Ham supporter
If you can't see the difference with how we are playing and how moyes played, then you must be blind, there is no way they are playing the same style, when did you ever see us trying to close down from the front, when have you seen a center back carry the ball forward under moyes, if you can't see the differences then I don't know what you are watching
He isn’t Moyes MkIi at all but people just love saying it just to spook people. When I hear people say that I just think they are lying or haven’t been paying attention
Ill take this defense over last years.
Give the bloke a chance 4 games, even Fergie took a while. My concern is how many times Fulham got crosses in from our right side, misplaced headers saved us apart from their school boy error goal, even 2nd half when we improved they got round the back easily. It happened too many times.
He did, Fergie saved himself by winning an FA Cup, he had an otherwise poor first season and would've been fired.
Why dont we play to our strengths, moyes era and now. Why cant lopi see kudus must play right or number 10. For starters. Also sumerville has to start
Well I think we also played a very good team on Sunday, so whose to say the team that started the second half would’ve been as effective against a fresh Fulham, but I get it. I didn’t wanna see Antonio or Tommy either
As much as I like Antonio he should never be starting coming back from jaica. Impact sub at best now and or rotation . We as hammer fans don't have any patience or I don't and as tough as the premier league is I do want to see the best starting eleven and get this squad sorted soon as , I want to see the best we can be pronto, I know it's going to take time but I was so sick of watching that dross last season with all this change I want the best now 🙏. Peace n chips Gary
Yeah Paul and truth be told I think we are all scarred by Moyes and that maybe makes some a little less tolerant of any perceived similarity no matter how tenuous. Gotta convince myself to go back to being patient and yeah I know I keep saying it 😂
@@GaryKillington what's interesting on your post match show with Chris you mentioned the to different takes, one chris watching the game from home and you being at the actual game . Cut this all quite short is that as an olas west hammer and with one other west ham fan out here in the middle of nowhere is we don't have any luxury of going to any game watching at the pub anywhere with fans talking to work colleagues or friends etc before the game or after, our only source of information comes from social media and I think that being said it confused us to know end with fan divide and patience ran thin for quite sometime with all the hoopla that went on in the club with moyes etc the board . We didn't have any release we can't do ffff all apart from yell at the TV or maybe the misses's ear hole 😂
Cannot say it's gone a bit Kier Starmer yet, ask this another month in. There are some worrying signs. Team selection being the major one. Lop claimed he studied West Ham for months so a leggy Antonio and a talentless Souchek should not be started. At least he hooked them early. The direct question to Lopetegui is why is he playing Souchek? What is the appeal? Dinos is a disaster per game. FA Cup and injury cover only. He's like Romero at Spurs.
I think he has inherited a few players (the usable ones left over) and they're largely senior pros, so he has to give them a fair crack. That's my theory anyway, I also think he did it because it was an away game after an international break. I suspect they are likely his reasons but I think he got it wrong and likely learned a lot about some of those players he inherited. He's a very impatient man so he won't just stick to the same players if they let him down. Before yesterday, Antonio hadn't really let him down (hadn't done much either, but worked hard) and Soucek had done all the different roles he's asked him to do. But against a footballing side who pressed, Soucek was so far out of his depth it was just painful. So yeah I think he's still learning about those senior pros and what they are and are not capable of. I expect he's surprised at just how bad they are at times. It must be bloody eye opening don't you think?
Great reply, Gary. Thank you for taking the time. Looking at commentators (trite) philosophy Souchek , Moyes etc are seen as wonders. I personally think Souchek trains his nuts of and managers like that - like Mason Mount. As for Antonio having ASD I sympathise, there's days I'm as slow as he is. When he comes back from injury he's a powerhouse then it drops off. With 20 mins to go I believe he'd be a motivated goliath. He carries a lot of muscle and that's why he gasses after 60mins motivated or not. Ultimately time will tell. Thanks again. On to the next BMS vid.
I didn’t know that about Antonio having ASD, that’s good to know. I’ll definitely lay off him in future.
you are clearly right about Soucek btw - managers love him
I maintain that JoLo needs half a season to work out his best squad. Also the new players need to get used to the Premier League, results will be patchy for a while.
Rob you are likely right and to be fair to you, you've been saying this from the start. But ya know, each game comes around and I'm like a kid at Christmas! Then I calm down again.
@@GaryKillington my concern for the next 10 games will be Paqueta and Kudus, both seem to have lost their enthusiasm. Paqueta coz of his charges and Kudus coz his head has probably been turned.
We need a settled side that works as hard as Captain Jarred …we were totally inept in the First Half Antonio shouldn’t have started too tired at his age as he probably ran himself out with Jamaica ..the subs made a difference so it tells you a lot …wasting all that money and not playing for instance the EPL POTY …Soucek can’t play no10 he’s too spidery get Pac or Soler in and work round that..
I agree with that, effort is an absolute minimum for me. Soucek is a simple footballer - he can break up play and he can make late runs into the box. That is about the size of it
Exactly how do you speed up a transition period ?
you get Soler into that role and try to find the players who are there to cause damage - Bowen/Kudus mainly. So often our attacks stall when Paqueta chooses a bad option.
Gary, in respects to Fullkrug, and as said by Hollywood "I have a BAD feeling bout this one"! 😢😢
Why do u wish,/hope good vibes on Fullkrug and Danny Ings (sounds like a nice guy😁) and NOT Antonio 🤔🤔😕😳😒. Whoever Lopetegui picks, I want them to have a productive game for our team. (even if they are NOT good nuff).
That's all it is though Audi, a feeling. When have we ever written off a player before seeing them play in the league? The answer is never. He's being written off only because people are still pining for the player they didn't get. It's not Fullkrug's fault we didn't sign Duran, you can however blame Aguerd quite a lot
@@GaryKillingtongood point.
The Soucêk & Antonio cluster f**k aside, my concern is that we currently have probably the most technically gifted squad we’ve had for a while.
Including 2 world class players in Paqueta & Kudus, so why aren’t we rinsing there talent and playing them in there preferred positions ?
Because let’s face it we probably won’t have them next season…we may not have Kudus after January.
Paqueta tbf has not been great so far this season but also. we need to hope the second half formation is a sign of things to come
I agree, the changes at half time was much improved.
Now we need that line up playing more consistently in match conditions.
agree
Lfl in the same games v last season we are on 4 points…same fixtures, we had 1 last season…and look at how many less we have conceded too
Yep, we drew against Villa when their season had taken a nose dive at the end. We got thrashed by Palace and Fulham and beaten without much of a fight by City. Chalk and cheese innit
@@GaryKillington yeah gary…got to take the positives from it so far
Conceded 6 v 14 last year
Gary, is there the smallest chance that Lopetegui does not trust/rate the creative part of our central midfield area so picks Antonio (9) and Soucek (10) as awkward pain in the bum, penalty box, ball crashers. How much say did he have on the purchased players.
Yes there is and I think it is because Paqueta is not doing what he is supposed to be doing. He has not been himself this season and I think Soler might end up taking his place.
@@GaryKillingtonI say, it's not bout PAQUETTA "doing what he's not supposed to be doing", it's bout givining ball away while attempting it. 😏
Not about to call for Loppy's head but his selection against Fulham was certainly concerning especially as Antonio is well known for coming back from International duty leggy and slow.
Yeah for sure, we all questioned it, it was a bad selection.
Fans are entitled to their own opinions,the Duran deal was a cock up because the player wanted to come,20 years old most supporters could see he was a real striker and £40 million was worth it
Ian I hope this is the last time you mention him!! Yeah we all wanted him, but it didn't happen and my point is, what is the point in talking about it 4 games into the season after the window has closed? Maybe talk about it when the window opens again? I don't hate Duran, I wanted him too. But I do think he is being used as a stick to beat the club with after they actually managed to completely rebuild a broken squad in record time. Also they got a striker just not the one everyone had expected. But he will do a job too, don't write Fullkrug off.
@GaryKillington I won't write Fullkrug off.I haven't wrote Loppy off either but I'm underwhelmed with him and I think he will keep snubbing the new signings
@@iancarvell9926 Yeah but that's normal, it means you're giving him time to prove himself. Anyone who said they are 100% sure of anything right now would be guessing I think
@GaryKillington I've supported west ham since I was born,I grew up in Suffolk with the carrot crunchers,my dad is an east ender.Im good mates with the ipswich town captain Sam Morsi so we better beat them wallies 😂 he was trying to pick my brains the other day as to how we play
I don't understand how some people still come with the attitude, "Oh, if only we had spent more money on Duran instead of buying so-and-so"... He's not there! Point! Maybe he didn't want to go to West Ham...
Now look forward to the many great players that Steidten has brought on board! This is much more than expected, isn't it?
Yes, the first Games were not the most attractive, I'm not blind...
Every beginning is difficult. Especially with so many new arrivals!
Exactly mate, how about looking at our own players and talking about us rather than checking up on Villa’s progress
We should not be making judgments for a couple of months, hard I know but remember new coach, new players, new training staff. So so pleased that Danny scored.
exactly mate, it’s like people enjoy starting all over again all the time
Bloody hell Gary what are people expecting after 4 games? I want us to win them all but the other teams have the same attitude and good to sometimes great players. Success is never guaranteed we can only hope if we put all the right parts together it all works.
Good point Bob, sport is not an exact science, if it was then the betting companies would not exist. It is not FIFA either where you select a group of top players, a formation and it beats inferior opposition. It is not always the case
im giving him 10 games if he is still picking soucek and antonio then i will get annoyed. i hope he proves me wrong.
why can’t he pick them? You mean at all? They are his players, should he kick them out then? Both will have their uses but not away to Fulham and not in that context - one knackered and one not a striker
@@GaryKillington just not as first team starters unless they fit the system or we have injuries. He should starting his strongest team.
yeah exactly that, but we never really know the full truth of where players actually are
Hi gawwy
Why don’t you give him time you gave Moyes 3 years
didn’t watch the vid?
@@GaryKillington no I didn’t just saw the headline on the video. There has been a lot of negative feelings about Lopetegui I probably assumed wrongly ,If I was was wrong I apologise.I will play the video and see what Gary says
We can’t dispel the myth he will keep picking the same players mate, only he can do that.
What’s the saying about 3rd time becomes a trend? Well his poor team selection and playing players out of position (Soucek 10, Kudus left) is already a trend.
I want to give him a chance but I can only judge him on what he’s actually done and I’m not impressed at all so far with the things that matter.
It isn’t a trend until he has a fully fit team to choose from. He had an injured striker and Paqueta had come back 24 hours earlier. Bad selection but I also don’t expect him to totally stop using soucek or antonio. I just expect him to stop starting them