Would’ve definitely blew up in the NE Region, but that’s a it bc PACs One Nation group with rappers from the east, west and down south would’ve crushed the whole rap game
They would have fought. DMX and PAC were two sides of a coin and would have butted heads (PAC is the leader in any room he walk in and quick to tell everyone to shut up and listen, DMX ain't the type of dude who gets sat down and told to listen)
X and Big may of had labels eventually…but in this convo it’s not relevant. The Lox signed with Puff label then went home to D and Wah-who eventually got their own label. The Lox were Ruff Ryders BEFORE signing to Bad Boy.
@@byrddgang6066 Ruff Ryders was the best place for them. Bad Boy was never a good fit. Puff put them in the shiny suits and had them doing radio friendly songs. It didn't work.
I wish the Lox never left Bad Boy. Them leaving really hurt Sheek career and their overall success when it came to record sales and hit music. If Biggie was alive he would of kept the family together bc he was the middle between Puffy and the artist
Even tho they probably would have had more success it’s not like they fell off when they left All of them still had solo hit records and hits as a group And bad boy might have been the best choice commercially Ruff Ryders a better for their sound
.. they was burning they young bul .. like hood said, they ain't doin too well in the industry ,so, of course, they didn't wanna see me in 😠 lox r losers 😔
you should track down the rappers necro and mr hyde, they both are from nyc. years ago they went on tour and when they went to cali, suge showed up and try to intimidate them but necro was not afraid. suge tried to do friendly extortion but necro was not having it and suge failed
The only reason X didn’t sign to DeathRow is because he didn’t want to use Daz or Dre. He had his own producers. And DeathRow wouldn’t allow him to use his team
It’s a picture with Dee and Wah and two other Ruff Ryder dudes and 2Pac, Suge, at least another Death Row guy…. Irv Gotti might have been there too. Swiss posted the picture….
Still waiting on the obligatory question: Do you think it was a good idea for Biggie to come to LA so soon after Pac passed away? Come on Art we know you ninja we KNOW that question is coming! Picking between Death Row and Bad Boy is like asking which one do you want more AIDS or CANCER?
@ Fuh You Big nor the east coast killed pac so why would he feel away about it. Plus he had nothing to do with Quad shooting so he couldn't over rap beef
@@kennethshelton9807 If you've watched Art's channel for awhile you know buddy asks the SAME QUESTIONS over and over again. He might not put it out now but just wait whenever he gets a chance he's gonna pepper that question in there asking about the beef. Whoever he interviews is going to say something and then he's gonna pretend like he never thought or heard of that yo. If he asks where he was when Biggie died he'll bring that up just watch.
I swear that's the only way he asks questions. Or repeating "man" at the end of each sentence. Must be anxiety. Art has interesting guests but doesn't have the personality to make it more intriguing.
Can legit imagine DMX and The Lox on Death Row Records. 90s was a wild era. But glad they eventually signed to Ruff Ryders after signing to guy who likes to be all up in the videos wearing shiny suits 😭🤣
I think after Biggie was taken out by suge over jeoulosy, the The Lox not signing with him also added to his motive. Karma is destroying suge every day.
@@almightytre3730 You can not spin what the federal bureau uncovered on suges messy trail. He is now in prison, slowly disintegrating with major health issues and contaminated inmate scraps he is consuming. Thats karma
What people fail to realize....and it goes to show you right there in your face that it wasn't about east or west... Because if it was about East or West here you go along with other examples... He's trying to sign artists from the streets of the East Coast
@@selfiekroos1777 SP far from broke y’all he just saying anything and hating why is he broke because he don’t show off his money with jewelry and cars like other rappers? This man have all types of businesses he eating off of
Darnn a Pac Jada collabo would be crazy Jada got them bars and Pac bring that energy that makes artist step up can't be laid back when rapping with pac
I wouldnt expect a newyork artist to sign with deathrow. And if they did it would be a last resort. At that time when suge was trying to sign them they probably heard all the negative stuff about the label. And as shady as puffy was, would you pick a shady big label on the west coast or a shady big label on the east close closer to your neck of the woods? Most people would pick the one closer to home.
"Do you believe in God? Believe in Death Row EAST"- 2pac. Death Row East was going to launch ran by Eric B. Signing Wu Tang, Big Daddy Kane, and this explaains that they were trying to get DMX and The Lox, One Nation album probably woulda been the first album on Makaveli/Death Row East
@@OlliWitta3_ im from cali but though it would of been possible in some cases to sign eastcoast artist, as whole it would of never happen. It would of been a bad business move for that many eastcoast artist on a westcoast label. Its no difference of a lot of westcoast artist decided to be on a eastcoast label. Yes it was possible to have maybe some but not that many big names, esspecially at the time with all the tension. And with eastcoast being the place where hiphop started a lot of eastocast fans would of been disappointed no matter how successful westcoast was. Now that the artist are older anything is possible, but of course hiphop doesnt sale like it did in the past.
@@Tirrell25 I'm from Cali too. Death Row wasn't gonna be just a West Coast label anymore tho, Death Row East wouldve been ran by Eric B, a New York OG and Hip-Hop pioneer
X talked about this in his book. Said thought he was going battle snoop or jurist but neither wanted to rap just listen and got a offer for death row east
Death Row was an interesting label Art but damn not that interesting. Is there any more content that you can give us other that death Row.... How are you still relevant it seems like you've covered EVERYTHING lol about Death Row.... Show us some real talent and make something interesting on something else
If pac survives do biggie still die? Do he still go to la that night? Suge still goes to jail so does he help Suge? What happens with snoop does he still go to no limit? Does pac sign 50 cent and Eminem what happens with dre? Does jayz rise? Is no limit with pac since he gave them the first break? What happens with Scarface? Do they start the distribution company?
'I GUARANTEE U THAT THEY EGOS IS BIG .. SO WE GON SHOW DEM NAGAS HOW EVIL IT IS .. AND WE DON'T GIVE A PHUCK .. HOW DIESEL THEY IS .. CUZ THEY ALL BREAK DOWN .. WHEN THE EAGLE IS LIT' ..
2:20 Wop passed the demo to Mary , she passed it to cousin, we thought it was on But it wasn’t , and we can’t blame nobody, look at us now dogg we came in the game NOBODYS! -Jadakiss-
@@ShawnDemarcoEntertainment no Tupac and DMX were very similar souls. DMX only dissed Tupac because of the east coast west coast beef and actually saw Tupac after that and they were cool.
@@frontandcenter7941 exactly Tupac didn't know who DMX was but DMX knew it was Tupac. He didn't try to act hard he just said what's up and kept moving.
@@bigprob8744 Tupac shot 2 cops there was no act about him he was just a wild dude. Him and Treach also had a huge brawl with the Rolling 60s Crips in a comedy club.
Lox sign to a 🌈 rainbow like puffie there must bin a LOX skrambilan at that time man you got ask LOX one thing about biggie smalls stealing nourtours b 1 style your hero
People HATE the truth brother‼️ Suge was always on the East & came to Zoo Crew block party #AllFacts Hot97 radio NEVER played south or west coast rap & use to clown them…That’s where it came from. NYC crowd boo’s OutKast when they won the award @ the same Source awards
It would make perfect sense that Suge tried to sign The Lox. You do realise that Suge Knight was managing Mary J Blige earlier on.Mary J Blige is from the same hood as the Lox. It was Mary's brother that gave The Lox's demo to her. So what are you talking about?
Jadakiss confirmed in an interview that The LOX were at Sheek Louch's place after school and Suge Knight called Sheek Louch's landline phone wanting to sign The LOX.
The Lox, DMX and 2Pac on Death Row. That would be a great timeline.
Lowkey Biggie was about to build an Allstar roster with Un Rivera
Big Facts!!! He had the Vision
That would’ve been a dope posse album. Late 90s hip hop has some heavy spitters out at the time.
Imagine he did that and pac did his 1Nation album and I’d imagine they would’ve squashed the beef by then. Hip Hop would’ve been taken to another lvl
"Of course, of course.💁♂️🤫🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔"; and the plot is still thickening and is about to boil over and explode."⏳️⌛️🕜⏲️⏱️🌡🌡🌡🌡🌡
Would’ve definitely blew up in the NE Region, but that’s a it bc PACs One Nation group with rappers from the east, west and down south would’ve crushed the whole rap game
Imagine an alternate timeline where PAC never dies and DMX is signed to Death Row 🔥🔥🔥
That would have been some lit shit frfr💯
They would have fought. DMX and PAC were two sides of a coin and would have butted heads (PAC is the leader in any room he walk in and quick to tell everyone to shut up and listen, DMX ain't the type of dude who gets sat down and told to listen)
Imagine DMX and The Lox on Death Row East sheesh
Happy to see styles p on art of dialogue platform. 💪🏾💪🏾
I glad DMX (rip) & Lox didn't join Deathrow it wouldn't end well some things are meant to be! 🙌🏾
Suge knew the Lox was gonna destroy the Outlaws...better to have them in your camp.
The Lox did the best thing and sign first with Biggie's label and then moved on to signing with Dmx's label after Biggie passed away.
Neither Biggie nor Dmx were label owners.
@@CarlosHernandez-wq9pc not true, DMX had his own label Bloodline Records.
@Carlos Hernandez not true, Biggie had Undeas Records.
X and Big may of had labels eventually…but in this convo it’s not relevant. The Lox signed with Puff label then went home to D and Wah-who eventually got their own label. The Lox were Ruff Ryders BEFORE signing to Bad Boy.
@@byrddgang6066 Ruff Ryders was the best place for them. Bad Boy was never a good fit. Puff put them in the shiny suits and had them doing radio friendly songs. It didn't work.
I love the 90s Rappers even tho I was born in the Mid Late/90s 1997 I love The Lox and Roca Fella
I heard Puff wouldn't sign X ,he said DMX looked like a purse snatcher 😅😅😅
I wish the Lox never left Bad Boy. Them leaving really hurt Sheek career and their overall success when it came to record sales and hit music. If Biggie was alive he would of kept the family together bc he was the middle between Puffy and the artist
Puffy wasn't paying them.
@@dariusdillard6157 yea
I have the same unpopular opinion. I always heard the 2nd album was done.
Biggie was leaving himself eventually
Even tho they probably would have had more success it’s not like they fell off when they left
All of them still had solo hit records and hits as a group
And bad boy might have been the best choice commercially Ruff Ryders a better for their sound
Money Power & Respect is a very dope ass Bad Boy Album to this day.
I`m glad X never signed To DeathRow and signed to a east coast record label. DaethRow was the same label that released records dissing NYC.
Death Row East was forming late 96 prolly woulda debuted in 97
@@OlliWitta3_ you are right but X met with Death row in like 94, he was supposed to be on the normal death row roster
I wanna see the Lox and J-hood work shit out miss that old D-Block sound
U still talking about jhood?life goes on...buddy
.. they was burning they young bul .. like hood said, they ain't doin too well in the industry ,so, of course, they didn't wanna see me in 😠 lox r losers 😔
J-hood was dat nigga frfr
Is nut too late..u people can get him some record deal..he might blow up..neva too late...c***s**kas
20 yrs..buddy
you should track down the rappers necro and mr hyde, they both are from nyc.
years ago they went on tour and when they went to cali, suge showed up and try to intimidate them but necro was not afraid.
suge tried to do friendly extortion but necro was not having it and suge failed
The only reason X didn’t sign to DeathRow is because he didn’t want to use Daz or Dre. He had his own producers. And DeathRow wouldn’t allow him to use his team
Styles P one of my favorite MC’s 🎤
It’s a picture with Dee and Wah and two other Ruff Ryder dudes and 2Pac, Suge, at least another Death Row guy…. Irv Gotti might have been there too. Swiss posted the picture….
Damn can't imagine what deathrow would look like with dmx and the lox fucking dope
Still waiting on the obligatory question: Do you think it was a good idea for Biggie to come to LA so soon after Pac passed away? Come on Art we know you ninja we KNOW that question is coming! Picking between Death Row and Bad Boy is like asking which one do you want more AIDS or CANCER?
@ Fuh You Big nor the east coast killed pac so why would he feel away about it. Plus he had nothing to do with Quad shooting so he couldn't over rap beef
@Kenneth Shelton What are you talking about?
@Fuh You why you he ask that question about big being in CA to soon. Big had nothing to do with pac getting killed
@@kennethshelton9807 If you've watched Art's channel for awhile you know buddy asks the SAME QUESTIONS over and over again. He might not put it out now but just wait whenever he gets a chance he's gonna pepper that question in there asking about the beef. Whoever he interviews is going to say something and then he's gonna pretend like he never thought or heard of that yo. If he asks where he was when Biggie died he'll bring that up just watch.
@Fuh You facts yes he do do that. He's one sided
Damn you got styles p? You leveling up
Yo the ghost!? This is lit man
Imagine DMX and Pac made a song together! That would changed the whole game!🔥🔥🔥
Art you came along way congrats sir
There's a picture of DMX & Dr Dre in X book and there's a photo from 94-95 of Dee Waah Suge and Irv Gotti
DMX LOX and Pac on Death Row. Damn.
I heard you felt dizzy the other day, could you tell me how dizzy did you feel Yo!
😂😂 Art be asking some dumbass questions
I swear that's the only way he asks questions. Or repeating "man" at the end of each sentence. Must be anxiety. Art has interesting guests but doesn't have the personality to make it more intriguing.
@@AS-xv7fp agreed
Can legit imagine DMX and The Lox on Death Row Records. 90s was a wild era. But glad they eventually signed to Ruff Ryders after signing to guy who likes to be all up in the videos wearing shiny suits 😭🤣
Bad boy definitely needed dmx in the east VS west feud then they'd take on 2pac and deathrow 😂
@@KromeSD fued was over hyped, each coast Mc said they weren't on that time...
lol
I think after Biggie was taken out by suge over jeoulosy, the The Lox not signing with him also added to his motive. Karma is destroying suge every day.
Suge did not kill biggie nor orchestrated the hit.
@almightytre3730 exactly how was he jealous of the LOX not signing when Pac album sold crazy numbers hell he lapped Big on the sales
@@almightytre3730 suge was bitter that the law caught up to him and was bitter that Biggie was living his best life.
🧢
@@almightytre3730 You can not spin what the federal bureau uncovered on suges messy trail. He is now in prison, slowly disintegrating with major health issues and contaminated inmate scraps he is consuming. Thats karma
Access denied 😡😡😡
Isn't there a picture of when dmx/Ruff Ryders went to meet with Suge, I think I may have seen it in his book
It was Ruff Ryders Dee and Waah and Irv Gotti back in the mid 90s
@@AhmedCSamatar I think I know which pic you're referring too, but I believe there's also a different pic with dmx
@@lethal5flow679 yeah there is a pic with X and Dr. Dre shaking hands, couple of affiliates around them
What people fail to realize....and it goes to show you right there in your face that it wasn't about east or west... Because if it was about East or West here you go along with other examples... He's trying to sign artists from the streets of the East Coast
Styles P: your favorite rapper’s , favorite rapper yerrrr
I’m predicting Un Rivera be the next guest on the show
I know thos Styles P interview is going to be dope
I believe it he wanted Craig Mack to!!!
He signed to desthrow east he was at club 662 when tupac and suge knight got shot in Las vegas
Imagine Suge trying to slap X
It wouldn’t have ended well for Suge if he was crazy enough to even try that
Should be called "Death Row Dialogue" looking ass lol
Art must have that real bread to be having people like Styles P on his show ?
SP's broke
@SMOkSkReeN naaah say cheese isn't his platform
@@selfiekroos1777 Do your research dummy… P definitely not broke. Trust & believe.
@@selfiekroos1777 SP far from broke y’all he just saying anything and hating why is he broke because he don’t show off his money with jewelry and cars like other rappers? This man have all types of businesses he eating off of
Shiny suits made more sense than Death Row??
Darnn a Pac Jada collabo would be crazy Jada got them bars and Pac bring that energy that makes artist step up can't be laid back when rapping with pac
Great interview so far
Death row likes authentic rappers
@@fruitpac I was agreeing with styles when he said death row like rappers that be outside.
Just about anything would’ve been better than that ‘getting jerked campaign.’
Yo styles p song my life. Bring tears to my eyes. Because it real
Already knew Suge was trying to sign the lox but didn't know it was that early, nd imagine Pac nd X on da same label at the same time.
🥶🎉
SOUNDS LIKE DEATH ROW EAST IDEAS “DMX” THE LOX🤔
Man if X and the kid was on Death Row wow! That woulda been dope asf
Imagine lox and DMX on death row
X would have outshined Pac
@Fweshy dmx would of got shelved. No new music came out once suge went to prison
DMX on Deathrow would have been fucking insane 😂
ok u got da Ghost 👻 on. U got me
Its always will be what if Pac and Big was alive how rap would be
I wouldnt expect a newyork artist to sign with deathrow. And if they did it would be a last resort. At that time when suge was trying to sign them they probably heard all the negative stuff about the label. And as shady as puffy was, would you pick a shady big label on the west coast or a shady big label on the east close closer to your neck of the woods? Most people would pick the one closer to home.
Then theirs careers would be same as Apache or Quan type of niqqas .. short n stingy
"Do you believe in God? Believe in Death Row EAST"- 2pac.
Death Row East was going to launch ran by Eric B. Signing Wu Tang, Big Daddy Kane, and this explaains that they were trying to get DMX and The Lox,
One Nation album probably woulda been the first album on Makaveli/Death Row East
@@OlliWitta3_ im from cali but though it would of been possible in some cases to sign eastcoast artist, as whole it would of never happen. It would of been a bad business move for that many eastcoast artist on a westcoast label. Its no difference of a lot of westcoast artist decided to be on a eastcoast label. Yes it was possible to have maybe some but not that many big names, esspecially at the time with all the tension. And with eastcoast being the place where hiphop started a lot of eastocast fans would of been disappointed no matter how successful westcoast was. Now that the artist are older anything is possible, but of course hiphop doesnt sale like it did in the past.
@@Tirrell25 I'm from Cali too. Death Row wasn't gonna be just a West Coast label anymore tho, Death Row East wouldve been ran by Eric B, a New York OG and Hip-Hop pioneer
Death Row east would of been nasty 😷 😮
Dmx and lox supposed to be on death row east legend has it lol 🤣😂💯🎯🔥
That's absolutely 100% facts Suge was going to sign X and Ruff Ryder's back in 1996..
@@keckchan7156 they even took a picture of the Ruff Ryders/Death Row Meeting with Dr. Dre shaking hands with X
@@Louis-sv5pu 💪🤸
These story’s r fire man 👊🏻🔥🔥💯
Loc with Dre and Daz production would have been fire plus a jada pac collabo...2 bad beef got bigger than the music
I don't believe that Suge was trying to sign the LOX
Imagine style p and rapper prodigy rip sitting down talking to each other. They have similar demeanors.
Lox wouldn’t have survived Death Row. That Cali gang life is different
X talked about this in his book. Said thought he was going battle snoop or jurist but neither wanted to rap just listen and got a offer for death row east
Death Row East......😈
Bruh Art Don Bought Us Tupac Stories, Biggie Stories, Now We Bouta Get Some DMX Stories 👀🐐🔥🔥 We Need Some 50 Cent & Eminem Stories 💯
The LOX always kept their ties with Death Row too.
They showed up on Suge’s obscure Too Gangsta For Radio album in 2000.
Tha realnessssssss😂
That fcuk dre track still makes me laugh
@@thecunninlynguist they even got a white boy to do the chorus smh
“In Too Deep” 🔥🔥🔥 track!
Salute Mary She Circulated That Demo!!!
Death Row East 96, 97, 98 Roster
.Grandmaster Flash 🔥🔥🔥
.Run-DMC 🔥🔥🔥
.Melle Mel 🔥🔥🔥
.Eric B. 🔥🔥🔥
.Big Daddy Kane 🔥🔥🔥
.Nice & Smooth Greg Nice 🔥🔥🔥
.Buckshot
.Smif-N-Wessun
.The Luniz's Numskull
.The Boot Camp Click 🔥🔥🔥
. The Outlawz 🔥🔥🔥
.The LOX 🔥🔥🔥
.DMX. 🔥🔥🔥
"If you believe in God, believe in Death Row East"_2Pac Sept. 4th 1996
They wouldn’t have blew up if they signed a deal with them
Death Row was an interesting label Art but damn not that interesting. Is there any more content that you can give us other that death Row.... How are you still relevant it seems like you've covered EVERYTHING lol about Death Row.... Show us some real talent and make something interesting on something else
💯
In too deep lox/deathrow
If pac survives do biggie still die? Do he still go to la that night? Suge still goes to jail so does he help Suge? What happens with snoop does he still go to no limit? Does pac sign 50 cent and Eminem what happens with dre? Does jayz rise? Is no limit with pac since he gave them the first break? What happens with Scarface? Do they start the distribution company?
'I GUARANTEE U THAT THEY EGOS IS BIG .. SO WE GON SHOW DEM NAGAS HOW EVIL IT IS .. AND WE DON'T GIVE A PHUCK .. HOW DIESEL THEY IS .. CUZ THEY ALL BREAK DOWN .. WHEN THE EAGLE IS LIT' ..
2:20 Wop passed the demo to Mary , she passed it to cousin, we thought it was on But it wasn’t , and we can’t blame nobody, look at us now dogg we came in the game NOBODYS!
-Jadakiss-
Styles p interviews are always awkward he don't want to tell nobody nothing you can tell he a real. G
DMX and Tupac working together with The Lox and The Outlaws would have made crazy classics.
Either that or would of beef 😂😂
@@ShawnDemarcoEntertainment no Tupac and DMX were very similar souls. DMX only dissed Tupac because of the east coast west coast beef and actually saw Tupac after that and they were cool.
@@micahwest2793 Man dmx only saw him once. Pac didn't know who dmx was. Come on now. Quit it!
@@frontandcenter7941 exactly Tupac didn't know who DMX was but DMX knew it was Tupac. He didn't try to act hard he just said what's up and kept moving.
@@bigprob8744 Tupac shot 2 cops there was no act about him he was just a wild dude. Him and Treach also had a huge brawl with the Rolling 60s Crips in a comedy club.
😮
Suge was trouble but at same time he did alot of good. Nobody ever talks about that
Mighty Mighty D Block
“Or better yet what if the LOX would’ve signed with Suge, What if puffy never signed us”..
Should have took the deal cuz puffy did y'all wrong
A 2pac/DMX live collaboration is something the world missed out on.
X PUT SUGE WANTED TO SIGN HIM IN HIS BOOK. EARL..GOD BLESS AND R.I.P TO THA 🐕....
Stop lying 😂😂😂 Suge tried to sign Biggie too.
He ain‘t lying, It‘s proven
The LOX should make a WHAT IF… DeathRow Records Mixtape … with a all the Death Row beats from that era!
Lox sign to a 🌈 rainbow like puffie there must bin a LOX skrambilan at that time man you got ask LOX one thing about biggie smalls stealing nourtours b 1 style your hero
DAT WOULDA BEEN CHEATING....
.. the lox wasn't that of a big deal 😑
DAT WOULDA SHIFTTED THA DYNAMICS OF HOW THA CHIPS FELL..
Imagine if DMX and pac was on the same label
The fact Suge tried to sign them automatically kills the east vs west bullshit
People HATE the truth brother‼️ Suge was always on the East & came to Zoo Crew block party #AllFacts Hot97 radio NEVER played south or west coast rap & use to clown them…That’s where it came from. NYC crowd boo’s OutKast when they won the award @ the same Source awards
Didnt sign to Suge just to get jerked by Diddy 😂
Believe it or not Ronald McDonald of McDonald's entertainment back in the 90s tried to sign DMX & the Lox aswell.
LOX over a Dre Beat🤔
.. eve couldn't even make the cut 😑
This WAS BEFORE DA BAD BOY DEAL..
He tried to sign The Wu and anybody else in Puff backyard, just to say he did.
that wouldv'e been crazy . Death Row would've extended they run they pulled that off .
had that worked out Death Row wouldve stayed on top DMX wouldve taken over
Lox and Dre snoop 2pac Daz kurupt Danny boy Etc. Would have been classics
Lmao he lying Suge did t try and sign this cat they say anything to be comped lmao
It would make perfect sense that Suge tried to sign The Lox. You do realise that Suge Knight was managing Mary J Blige earlier on.Mary J Blige is from the same hood as the Lox. It was Mary's brother that gave The Lox's demo to her. So what are you talking about?
this story been around for 20 years
Jadakiss confirmed in an interview that The LOX were at Sheek Louch's place after school and Suge Knight called Sheek Louch's landline phone wanting to sign The LOX.
Suge knight wanted dmx the lox back in 95