@@karikaru There's some bad blood with Fuji, I think. They did an excellent breakdown of the AF problems on many Fuji cameras and lots of talk about GFX that is just totally wrong.
I think all are fantastic news for Canon, DJI and m43 fans. Especially the OM3 - if they put the new sensor in a OM5 style body, new-style menu, USB-C and finally weather seal the f1.8 primes, this will make tons of people happy. Hopefully, AF gets some improvement too.
Fuji X-H2S is APC-S stacked sensor with 26Mpx. So now you are saying that APS-C has a market? Years ago I replied on a video you made that crop sensors are death, that for speed and video on certain price points APS-C still has a market.
In fact APS-C is the most selling because of price. Quite obviously as it always was since affordable cameras like EOS300D, Pentax IstD and Nikon D50 were introduced.
Fuji has a stacked sensor that virtually eliminates any rolling shutter issues and records open gate at 6.2K 12 bit with 14 stops of dynamic range. At the moment it leads the pack.
@@babajaiy8246technically it does…it’s just that it’s the only one in the “pack.” OM1/1ii is the only other crop sensor pro-sumer camera with a stacked sensor, but that’s MFT vs APSC
@@samwise_productions Fuji cameras still struggle with AF compared to Sony/Canon they're far behind. The camera is pricey for an APS-c. Panasonic and things like action cameras and dji osmo provide better stabilization. Significantly less lens selection. Should I keep going?
That depends on functionality. If they are able to squeeze EM1III/OM1 tech into that body, it will sell well. If it is rather retro styled OM-5 level, then it might be a problem.
@xmeda I love my OM1 but idk if a retro version at like $2200 would sell... You can get a Nikon zf on sale new for like $1800 now and that's full frame. Several Fuji bodies with retro looks go from $1500-$1700. Yes OM has them beat on readout speed and fps , better evf and IBS. It lacks in other areas that others might find more important.
Tony wants 410 Mpix FF with diffraction issues right at F2.8. XH-2s has stacked APS-C sensor. That new OM camera HAS hotshoe. OMG it is perfectly visible right on those pics. Nothing changed here, standard Tony like years ago with horrendous phantasmagorias about crop vs FF.
I love the idea of manufacturers pushing the envelope on MP, but I think it would be hard to find full frame lenses that could fully utilize 410mp. I love shooting wide open with my 60mp camera, and often the lens is the limiting factor when it comes to sharpness not the sensor.
The Fujifilm X-H2s has a stacked APS-C sensor and pretty much matches those specs or is better and it is several years old with a new generation platform due at the end of the year or early next year.
Actually the OM-1 and OM-1ii have been favourably reviewed and each was a clear improvement on the previous generation. Explain why any other sensor/mount format that releases a crippled vlog camera is innovative, but m43 isn't? I know bad news attracts more views and engagement, but it isn't news if it's inaccurate, is it?
I think people would be quite surprised how impressive the OM-1 Mark II is. The amount of computational features means I can leave my tripod and ND filters at home and spend the day shooting waterfalls handheld. I left Nikon for an OM-1 Mark II and could never go back to full frame.
@@samwise_productions I didn't think they they were sent cameras from any companies? Don't they purchase the cameras they test unless invited to an event to test.
@@Centauri27 The infamous M43 is dead video. That was a bad prediction by Tony, but I believe this was quite a few years ago now and they have made more positive reviews since. As an M43 shooter I was a little shocked at the time, but I could appreciate where he was coming from with the advancement of smart phones taking up the space of smaller sensor dedicated cameras. With the big jump in sales of old compact cameras, I think the younger people want a separate experience to their phone and a different look, and M43 ticks a lot of boxes, especially with computational features and retro styling.
OM1 mark 1 and 2 is BSI stacked, and fuji XH2s is stacked, which is an APS-C sensor. That's just off the top of my head and I'm not even a professional, I'm sure there are more. Really surprised me that you thought this was unique.
Om-3 should have stacked sensor, phase detect af, easy social media integration and Live Luts similar to the G9M2 or S9 and it can challenge Fuji for the street photography crown. With live luts you get all the JPG vintage film simulations you want. That is the market that they need to go after. Not the pro market.
Hard disagree. Where are you getting that impression from? Just take a look at some of the high res modes in cameras such as the OM1 - 80mp with a tripod, tack sharp, and that is from a 20mp m43 sensor as its base. Sure, you won't be able to get any more out of the 50mm 1.8 STM from canon, but I'm sure some of the L series glass would be able to resolve that much.
@@80-80. It has to do a lot. It is computational photography. Olympus 20Mpix sensor is roughly equivallent to 80Mpix FF sensor in terms of pixel density, Panasonic 25Mpix M4/3 are roughly equivallent of 100Mpix FF in pixel density. Both are runing into diffraction issues around F6.3+ loosing detail. If you quadruple that resolution guess what happens. You'll have similar problem like compact cameras have with tiny 1/2.3" 14-20Mpix sensors. Diffraction right from lens being wide open. The other issue is, that there are only few ultra expensive FF lenses built to same optical performance like Olympus has in some PRO lenses. Because doing that same way for FF to cover whole frame with hi-res optics from corner to corner would turn some Canon 24-70/2.8 into 3kg lens with $6000 price tag.
@@samwise_productions 80 MP and 410 MP is a huge difference. Most of the older F lenses could not cover the resolution of Nikon 850 and that was only a 45MP chip. A high-resolution camera needs a high-resolution lens.
I think you are probably right, it'll be a parts bin special of some kind. My primary fear is that they call it an OM-3, but with it lacking the gravitas of the original OM-3, which after all was an inspired piece of equipment, up there with the Leica M in my opinion.
There are no lenses in their lineup for resolving this any meaningfully. There's also an apertures' vicious circle between out-of-focus blur (due to shrinking depth-of-field for serving higher resolutions), versus diffraction kicking in too early at too-high pixel densities.
@@gamebuster800 I doubt it, or, it could be in a questionable joke scenario? At most I can imagine, that - only at the very image center - of the 1 least-decentered lens out of a sample size of 100, - there could be a measurable contrast of 0.01% left, to distinguish white from dark lines in the test target, so that some funny guy in some forum proudly stood up and said YES it can resolve it? 😉
In a previous video, you mentioned a new software that was great for smoothing blemishes and mottled skin without making it look too airbrushed. You said the software did not require the internet and could be used locally. What software was it?
About the Canon sensor, the size of pixels will be some 0.56 um, right ? What dynamic range and native ISO ? Will it be industrial (with controlled light) or also outside world for consumer camera ? About Olympus, I have 2 of the vintage models. These required a hotshoe to be screwed onto it.
For that much megapixels, I often wondered in the past "What if...Sony would take their smartphone sensors with stupidly high pixel densities compared to usual crop or full-frame cameras - and make it as a larger APS-C or full 35mm sensor?" Then things like yield and manufacturability came to mind...so no, not that fast...even if they were the first to materialize and produce stacked sensors...
I think Canon target that 410mp for satellite use. Government (including military) and commercial applications of Earth-observation satellites are rising fast.
I brought an m6ii just to have the final version to use with all my m mount Canon and Sigma lenses.. it's a great little camera and good with ef glass too.
Micro Four Thirds cams have been doing those kind of specs for the last couple of years, so has fujifilm. But, im just a crazy fanatic who's opinions are completely invalidated because Tony Northrup would never have his own biases. 🤷
I was kinda hoping that Olympus would re-issue their legendary OM-3 film camera. But I guess that would be too much to ask from a company that run itself into the ground...
For goodness sake. A 410mp camera would require something like a quantum computer to edit a mammoth file from that size sensor! The sweet spot has been around for a long time. Photography enthusiasts don’t just capture images. They enjoy the whole journey. Image making-image editing-printing. Plus, they want that journey to be as fluid as possible. The sweet spot of 24 mp, satisfies the majority of enthusiast photographers. A 410mp camera would have little support. The average computer would, faced with that file size, have a nervous breakdown and the lenses needed would have to be of a perfection never before attained!
Computer is not an issue. 20 years ago you'll be horrified even with 24Mpix RAWs. Nowdays people are running through 60Mpix RAWs or 8k videos like nothing. The problem is physics and lens construction. There are no FF lenses capable of using such resolution due to diffraction. It would behave just like 1/2.3 20Mpix sensors in compact cameras or sensors in mobile phones. All the time deep into diffraction and anything than base iso just killed with noise reduction. Maximum fairly usable resolution for FF sensor area is around 120Mpix. Anything more leads to medium format. In similar fashion we would probably not see more than 50Mpix on APS-C and more than 35Mpix on M4/3 sensors. They might use more, but it won't improve output, due to optical limits of lenses.
What is new in the last Sony A1-ll and in the top Canon camera’s R5-ll and R1? The sensors are allmost the same with better processor. Just like OM 1 and OM 1-ll. For half the price of a Canon R1 or should we call it the R3-ll?
Sorry but every time I hear about canon and aps-c all I can think about is how they unnecessarily axed the compact eos-m platform to push the R series.
410MP with diffraction starting about f/2.8? That is why not to put that sensor in a normal camera, unless you only want shallow DOF or softer images well beyond that.
Trying to think what I would do with a 410MP camera. Crop down to see bacteria with a super-resolving lens? I have a 40mp camera now, but have no complaints about the images about the images from my old 12mp D700 from Nikon.
Get some quotes on the cost of that print and it's likely that you will NOT want one. Because I suspect that you will find it's north of 1000 dollars for a print that large.
I got a ZV-E10 and about to buy some glass for it. Specifically the 16-55mm f/2.8 G lense. I only own kit lenses and 3rd party for my Nikon D7200 and Sony currently.
I found information in the past that after the sale of the Olympus photo division and the formation of OM, the use of the "Olympus" brand was subject to a protection period, because the products on the production line could not be immediately rebranded. This period has already expired and OM must therefore rebrand all existing equipment (lenses) that it produces. The fact that the technology is not innovative (mainly the body) is due to savings. Although OM keeps the financial news under wraps, other sources say that he is not doing well economically. Endless, there is one pure speculation, which I also read in a discussion elsewhere - After the expiration of the protection period, when new technology with the Olympus logo can no longer be created, Olympus wants to return to the production of cameras, but no longer MFT (which it left because it did not see the perspective) , but it should be added to some existing system and create an alliance like L mount has. In connection with this, the text speculated about Sony, since the connection between Sony and Olympus in the past is beyond doubt. Olympus should make E mount cameras (maybe only APS-C for now) with a retro look that Sony doesn't. What do you think, is it realistic?
the images ain't better, or worse. If you pixel peep on a higher res image you'll see the limitations of the lens. You need sharper lenses for higher mpx sensors in order to perceive the same sharpness like on a smaller res image. If you adjust the subject to be the same size, the quality would be identical. Basically, you're just increasing the sample rate of the signal, not the quality of the signal which would mean to use a sharper lens.
The OM-3 looks amazing! Exactly what I Need paired with the NEW weather sealed 17mm f1.8! Perfect! All manufacturers use the technology from the main cameras in the secondary cameras. What's new and why the negative talk?
There's no place in the entire universe where there's zero gravity. Gravity is a universal force that exist everywhere, regardless of the illusion of floating in space, astronauts are basically "falling" to earth constantly on orbit.
THANKS TONY Wonder why one of the Major Camera 🎥 Producers doesnt consider hiring you and those like you on an advisory committee to Bridge the gap between Themselves and Consumers who buy Their products. 📷
Canon APC with a stacked sensor? I wonder if it will have IBIS? Nikon, doesn't this sound like an updated mirrorless D500. A wildlife photographers dream? It might be a video-centric camera (and I suspect it will lack IBIS if it will br priced at $1500) but I can imagine wildlife photographers would kill for this. I hope this will finally spur Nikon to create an actual mirrorless D500 replacement that has everything (IBIS, stacked or partially stacked sensor, great EVF, great AF). And no, the Z50 MII isnt even close.
How many f/1.1 lenses are going to be available to resolve every pixel on a 410 MP? At normal, affordable f/2.8 you’re down to 62 MP of usable, true fidelity on full frame. And those are best-scenario, perfect glass, theoretical numbers. No one ever talks about or understands diffraction limiting.
Announcing a 410 MP sensor with 8 FPS without there being any storage media on the market in the distant future that could reproduce this write rate is simply a bottomless impudence or at least an equally bottomless stupidity. In the end, a camera is not just made up of a sensor. Quite the opposite! As long as what the sensor records cannot be written away, it is not even a camera but simply megabits of entropy.
compact cameras will come back.. this was biggest mistake by most of camera companies. now which ever company will make the first great hybrid compact camera. Will go to the 🚀
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DJI MINI 3, MINI 3 PRO, MINI 4 PRO can look up. This new Mavic 4 is cool, but damn, avoid hit that drone or the gimbal will be busted.
Fujifilm X-H2s is first stacked APS-C sensor. Spec: 26mp, 6K, 4K up to 120, 40fps Raw in ES, full sized HDMI.
Yeah that Canon new apsc is late and brings nothing new and Tony knows it of course, fact that he chose to treat it that way speaks a lot...
XH-2 is a lot of camera and comes with a huge family of first rate Fujinon and third party lenses.
Doesn't the X-H2S have a stacked sensor (and full hdmi port + 6k open gate)?
He is either new to this field or paid to promote like this.
yes, stacked sensor, full HDMI port and 6.2k open gate
@@Commonyou7149He's definitely not new. Just selective memory that tends to be kinder to canon
@@karikaru There's some bad blood with Fuji, I think. They did an excellent breakdown of the AF problems on many Fuji cameras and lots of talk about GFX that is just totally wrong.
Yes.
MFT users have been asking for weather sealed primes from Olympus for years. We finally get to have them now. I'm stoked.
I think all are fantastic news for Canon, DJI and m43 fans.
Especially the OM3 - if they put the new sensor in a OM5 style body, new-style menu, USB-C and finally weather seal the f1.8 primes, this will make tons of people happy. Hopefully, AF gets some improvement too.
Didn't Fujifilm release an APS-C stacked sensor with full sized HDMI port 2.5 years ago?
Cheering for the OM system to pull through. I would love to one day own one of those cameras, if they can keep updating them.
The XH2S also does 6.2K open gate. But some UA-camrs are saying the firmware update wasn’t what they were hoping for.
They are point and shoot ‘cinematographers’ incapable of pulling focus. The AF on that camera is more than satisfactory at this point.
@@nativestrong7253who is pulling focus on a Fujifilm. Those guys at NFL games are using Arri Alexa plus a manual focus 33:1 zoom lens.
Fuji X-H2S is APC-S stacked sensor with 26Mpx. So now you are saying that APS-C has a market? Years ago I replied on a video you made that crop sensors are death, that for speed and video on certain price points APS-C still has a market.
In fact APS-C is the most selling because of price. Quite obviously as it always was since affordable cameras like EOS300D, Pentax IstD and Nikon D50 were introduced.
That’s a little surprising to not be aware of the XH2S, that was not a low-key camera release
I think Fuji has a stacked sensor, right?
Yup.
Fuji has a stacked sensor that virtually eliminates any rolling shutter issues and records open gate at 6.2K 12 bit with 14 stops of dynamic range. At the moment it leads the pack.
"At the moment it leads the pack" - Actually it doesn't.
@@babajaiy8246technically it does…it’s just that it’s the only one in the “pack.” OM1/1ii is the only other crop sensor pro-sumer camera with a stacked sensor, but that’s MFT vs APSC
@@babajaiy8246 could you elaborate or do you just like being a contrarian?
@@samwise_productions Fuji cameras still struggle with AF compared to Sony/Canon they're far behind. The camera is pricey for an APS-c. Panasonic and things like action cameras and dji osmo provide better stabilization. Significantly less lens selection. Should I keep going?
@@petercofrancesco9812even Nikon AF better than Fujifilm. Even Chelsea says Fujifilm is crap.
OM3 priced around $1500 is what they need. I've heard rumors it's over $2000 tho which would be a huge shame
That depends on functionality. If they are able to squeeze EM1III/OM1 tech into that body, it will sell well. If it is rather retro styled OM-5 level, then it might be a problem.
@xmeda I love my OM1 but idk if a retro version at like $2200 would sell... You can get a Nikon zf on sale new for like $1800 now and that's full frame. Several Fuji bodies with retro looks go from $1500-$1700. Yes OM has them beat on readout speed and fps , better evf and IBS. It lacks in other areas that others might find more important.
Tony wants 410 Mpix FF with diffraction issues right at F2.8.
XH-2s has stacked APS-C sensor.
That new OM camera HAS hotshoe. OMG it is perfectly visible right on those pics.
Nothing changed here, standard Tony like years ago with horrendous phantasmagorias about crop vs FF.
I love the idea of manufacturers pushing the envelope on MP, but I think it would be hard to find full frame lenses that could fully utilize 410mp. I love shooting wide open with my 60mp camera, and often the lens is the limiting factor when it comes to sharpness not the sensor.
That's the least problem, what will you do with 1Gb per photo?
The Fujifilm X-H2s has a stacked APS-C sensor and pretty much matches those specs or is better and it is several years old with a new generation platform due at the end of the year or early next year.
Actually the OM-1 and OM-1ii have been favourably reviewed and each was a clear improvement on the previous generation. Explain why any other sensor/mount format that releases a crippled vlog camera is innovative, but m43 isn't? I know bad news attracts more views and engagement, but it isn't news if it's inaccurate, is it?
I think people would be quite surprised how impressive the OM-1 Mark II is. The amount of computational features means I can leave my tripod and ND filters at home and spend the day shooting waterfalls handheld. I left Nikon for an OM-1 Mark II and could never go back to full frame.
because M43 companies don't sponsor or send UA-camrs free cameras. His bias is quite on show here.
@@samwise_productions Northrup is known to be the most biased against m4/3 on UA-cam.
@@samwise_productions I didn't think they they were sent cameras from any companies? Don't they purchase the cameras they test unless invited to an event to test.
@@Centauri27 The infamous M43 is dead video. That was a bad prediction by Tony, but I believe this was quite a few years ago now and they have made more positive reviews since. As an M43 shooter I was a little shocked at the time, but I could appreciate where he was coming from with the advancement of smart phones taking up the space of smaller sensor dedicated cameras. With the big jump in sales of old compact cameras, I think the younger people want a separate experience to their phone and a different look, and M43 ticks a lot of boxes, especially with computational features and retro styling.
Yes, of course it's hard for them to announce a new Olympus. I still remember very well how they predicted the death knell for the brand 10 years ago.
It IS dead - as you have the same 20mp sensor for about a decade, no innovation = "dead" in my none fan-boy world. 😮
@@stadtchronistjennersdorf6351 It's perfectly functional, though. It worked great a decade ago, and it still does.
OM1 mark 1 and 2 is BSI stacked, and fuji XH2s is stacked, which is an APS-C sensor. That's just off the top of my head and I'm not even a professional, I'm sure there are more. Really surprised me that you thought this was unique.
Canon has much better autofocus than fuji.. That is why it could be.
@@m11kan What does that have to do with sensor build?
Om-3 should have stacked sensor, phase detect af, easy social media integration and Live Luts similar to the G9M2 or S9 and it can challenge Fuji for the street photography crown.
With live luts you get all the JPG vintage film simulations you want.
That is the market that they need to go after. Not the pro market.
Stacked sensor for apsc? Xh2s
2:56 Focusing on what Fuji has done with the X-H2S except I bet the Canon will start with good focus while the Fuji stumbled a while with it.
No lens manufactured today by Canon or Nikon is capable of providing adequate resolution for a 410-megapixel camera.
Hard disagree. Where are you getting that impression from? Just take a look at some of the high res modes in cameras such as the OM1 - 80mp with a tripod, tack sharp, and that is from a 20mp m43 sensor as its base. Sure, you won't be able to get any more out of the 50mm 1.8 STM from canon, but I'm sure some of the L series glass would be able to resolve that much.
@@samwise_productions High res takes multiple photos by shifting the sensor then it combines all of them in one photo
@@cristibalutaeveryone knows that, but it has nothing to do with what we are talking about.
@@80-80. It has to do a lot. It is computational photography. Olympus 20Mpix sensor is roughly equivallent to 80Mpix FF sensor in terms of pixel density, Panasonic 25Mpix M4/3 are roughly equivallent of 100Mpix FF in pixel density. Both are runing into diffraction issues around F6.3+ loosing detail. If you quadruple that resolution guess what happens. You'll have similar problem like compact cameras have with tiny 1/2.3" 14-20Mpix sensors. Diffraction right from lens being wide open.
The other issue is, that there are only few ultra expensive FF lenses built to same optical performance like Olympus has in some PRO lenses. Because doing that same way for FF to cover whole frame with hi-res optics from corner to corner would turn some Canon 24-70/2.8 into 3kg lens with $6000 price tag.
@@samwise_productions 80 MP and 410 MP is a huge difference. Most of the older F lenses could not cover the resolution of Nikon 850 and that was only a 45MP chip. A high-resolution camera needs a high-resolution lens.
I'd be happier with a Canon announcement to let Sigma produce more third party RF lenses please.
3:24 Fuji X-H2S has an APS-C Stacked Sensor…
Great vid Tony.. very interesting. love the lens changes in space awesome.. 😊 Pete
I think you are probably right, it'll be a parts bin special of some kind. My primary fear is that they call it an OM-3, but with it lacking the gravitas of the original OM-3, which after all was an inspired piece of equipment, up there with the Leica M in my opinion.
Slight contrast to your last video 🤣
3:23 Fujifilm X-H2S ??????
I'd love that rumoured R10C with the ND adaptor and the Sigma 18-35/1.8, perfect little run and gun setup
When is the a1 II vs Canon r5 II vs Nikon Z8 wildlife test coming?
I can’t wait!😁
Whoo! 400?
I'll wait for 1000.
There are no lenses in their lineup for resolving this any meaningfully.
There's also an apertures' vicious circle between out-of-focus blur (due to shrinking depth-of-field for serving higher resolutions), versus diffraction kicking in too early at too-high pixel densities.
What I was thinking. Most lenses are rated for 20- 40 mp. Even the new glass doesn't go higher. 40mp is the new + and expensive glass
@@itsallminor6133medium format glass from the 60’s resolves 125mp. Most glass in the last 20 years for 35mm can resolve over 100mp.
Modern Sony lenses have shown to resolve 240MP. I’m sure Canon lenses have similar options.
@@gamebuster800 I doubt it, or, it could be in a questionable joke scenario? At most I can imagine, that
- only at the very image center
- of the 1 least-decentered lens out of a sample size of 100,
- there could be a measurable contrast of 0.01% left, to distinguish white from dark lines in the test target,
so that some funny guy in some forum proudly stood up and said YES it can resolve it? 😉
@@gamebuster800 not the last time I looked at a manufacturer chart
In a previous video, you mentioned a new software that was great for smoothing blemishes and mottled skin without making it look too airbrushed. You said the software did not require the internet and could be used locally. What software was it?
About the Canon sensor, the size of pixels will be some 0.56 um, right ? What dynamic range and native ISO ? Will it be industrial (with controlled light) or also outside world for consumer camera ? About Olympus, I have 2 of the vintage models. These required a hotshoe to be screwed onto it.
Most serious camera review of all.
Where is the canon rumors mention of this r10c? I looked and could not find it. Thanks!
For that much megapixels, I often wondered in the past "What if...Sony would take their smartphone sensors with stupidly high pixel densities compared to usual crop or full-frame cameras - and make it as a larger APS-C or full 35mm sensor?"
Then things like yield and manufacturability came to mind...so no, not that fast...even if they were the first to materialize and produce stacked sensors...
I think Canon target that 410mp for satellite use. Government (including military) and commercial applications of Earth-observation satellites are rising fast.
After canon ditched the M series, should we really look to them for aps-c? It is still a great camera and design - just ask Fuji and the X-M5
Sold all my Canon M for a XT50, wish I hadnt
Still using ours, especially on outings and vacation
I brought an m6ii just to have the final version to use with all my m mount Canon and Sigma lenses.. it's a great little camera and good with ef glass too.
Micro Four Thirds cams have been doing those kind of specs for the last couple of years, so has fujifilm. But, im just a crazy fanatic who's opinions are completely invalidated because Tony Northrup would never have his own biases. 🤷
A 410 megapixel yacht sized lens! Bring it on.
410 MP is insane, but even in crop mode would be insane. Pixel pitch will be too small for HQ images I would think.
I was kinda hoping that Olympus would re-issue their legendary OM-3 film camera. But I guess that would be too much to ask from a company that run itself into the ground...
I was hoping from the same 70mm lens instead of the 50mm which makes me wonder if the 7x 150mm will be as good as the 70mm lens on the mavic 3 Pro?🤔
Is there any Canon lens option with an aperture ring on the lens?
I’d love to see a competitor to the FX3/FX30. I’d be happy with an R6ii sensor, ditch the evf and add a fan,full size HDMI and 4k120.
For goodness sake. A 410mp camera would require something like a quantum computer to edit a mammoth file from that size sensor! The sweet spot has been around for a long time. Photography enthusiasts don’t just capture images. They enjoy the whole journey. Image making-image editing-printing. Plus, they want that journey to be as fluid as possible. The sweet spot of 24 mp, satisfies the majority of enthusiast photographers. A 410mp camera would have little support. The average computer would, faced with that file size, have a nervous breakdown and the lenses needed would have to be of a perfection never before attained!
Computer is not an issue. 20 years ago you'll be horrified even with 24Mpix RAWs. Nowdays people are running through 60Mpix RAWs or 8k videos like nothing.
The problem is physics and lens construction. There are no FF lenses capable of using such resolution due to diffraction. It would behave just like 1/2.3 20Mpix sensors in compact cameras or sensors in mobile phones. All the time deep into diffraction and anything than base iso just killed with noise reduction.
Maximum fairly usable resolution for FF sensor area is around 120Mpix. Anything more leads to medium format. In similar fashion we would probably not see more than 50Mpix on APS-C and more than 35Mpix on M4/3 sensors.
They might use more, but it won't improve output, due to optical limits of lenses.
The computing power and cooling would make that Canon camera a monster.
What is new in the last Sony A1-ll and in the top Canon camera’s R5-ll and R1? The sensors are allmost the same with better processor. Just like OM 1 and OM 1-ll. For half the price of a Canon R1 or should we call it the R3-ll?
Stacked sensor? Interested😮
Sorry but every time I hear about canon and aps-c all I can think about is how they unnecessarily axed the compact eos-m platform to push the R series.
No one would wanna have their portrait taken on that
Landscape and wildlife but the issue coming up is I am not aware of any lenses that have that kind of resolution so does it really matter?
Really? You don't know any stacked sensor apsc cameras? I mean... Wtf dude!
410MP with diffraction starting about f/2.8? That is why not to put that sensor in a normal camera, unless you only want shallow DOF or softer images well beyond that.
Can lenses keep up with 410 MP?
That r10c sounds kinda close to a Sony a6700 but with a little more
Trying to think what I would do with a 410MP camera. Crop down to see bacteria with a super-resolving lens? I have a 40mp camera now, but have no complaints about the images about the images from my old 12mp D700 from Nikon.
410 megapixel will get you a 78x54.5 inch print at 300 DPI. I want one!
Get some quotes on the cost of that print and it's likely that you will NOT want one. Because I suspect that you will find it's north of 1000 dollars for a print that large.
410 MP?! At last! Enough MP for Tony Northcrop!
Actually the DJI mini 3 pro and mini4 pro can already look straight up 90 degrees.
410 megapixel by canon for rf = $35,000
I got a ZV-E10 and about to buy some glass for it. Specifically the 16-55mm f/2.8 G lense. I only own kit lenses and 3rd party for my Nikon D7200 and Sony currently.
Canon had a working 200mp sensor, 10 years ago. We never saw it in any camera.
182mp in APSC/super35 mode with my older lenses.. 3x what my fpL & A7CR gets in ff, oh I should have waited..
I found information in the past that after the sale of the Olympus photo division and the formation of OM, the use of the "Olympus" brand was subject to a protection period, because the products on the production line could not be immediately rebranded. This period has already expired and OM must therefore rebrand all existing equipment (lenses) that it produces. The fact that the technology is not innovative (mainly the body) is due to savings. Although OM keeps the financial news under wraps, other sources say that he is not doing well economically. Endless, there is one pure speculation, which I also read in a discussion elsewhere - After the expiration of the protection period, when new technology with the Olympus logo can no longer be created, Olympus wants to return to the production of cameras, but no longer MFT (which it left because it did not see the perspective) , but it should be added to some existing system and create an alliance like L mount has. In connection with this, the text speculated about Sony, since the connection between Sony and Olympus in the past is beyond doubt. Olympus should make E mount cameras (maybe only APS-C for now) with a retro look that Sony doesn't. What do you think, is it realistic?
OM System has specifically stated that there is no time limit on their use of the Olympus name. In fact Olympus pane like 5% of OM Digital Solutions.
File size on 410 mpx image is going to be insane 😮I say not worth it for regular photography
What with diffraction with such small pixels?
Is there any RF mount glass that is good for 410 megapixels?
There’s got to be a reason they’re not using the 410 MP sensor for photography. It’s probably because of the dynamic range or something.
LOL… that video clip was not the CT shoreline ⛵⛵
'i don't know of any aps-c camera with a stacked sensor.' - may i remind you of fujifilm xh2s. This guy is a joker
I don't think they can make lenses to resolve close to 410mp
It's an industrial sensor and unlikely to go into a photography camera
Why the rush to Mega Pixels. I have just "upgraded" from 40MP to 26MP, and my opinion the images are better.
the images ain't better, or worse. If you pixel peep on a higher res image you'll see the limitations of the lens. You need sharper lenses for higher mpx sensors in order to perceive the same sharpness like on a smaller res image. If you adjust the subject to be the same size, the quality would be identical. Basically, you're just increasing the sample rate of the signal, not the quality of the signal which would mean to use a sharper lens.
The OM-3 looks amazing! Exactly what I Need paired with the NEW weather sealed 17mm f1.8! Perfect! All manufacturers use the technology from the main cameras in the secondary cameras. What's new and why the negative talk?
It looks a lot like my old OMD E-M10ii in silver
How does OM systems justify charging so much for a 20mp micro 4/3 sensor?
If you look carefully, you'll see that you're getting more than just a sensor.
Honstely, people spend money on Hasselblad and Phase One cameras so why not on Canon 410MPx bodies. Dont even have to go as far as boat owners.
There's no place in the entire universe where there's zero gravity. Gravity is a universal force that exist everywhere, regardless of the illusion of floating in space, astronauts are basically "falling" to earth constantly on orbit.
Could you imagine a Canon 410 mp sensor in an OM-3 body?
Do we need this as photographer?
Why om is not in L mount alliance still bothers me 😂😂😂
Look at Panasonic for example, pretty successful...
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Yes, we need absurdly large 1gb pictures I just wonder who has a printer that can print 5k to 10k dpi or video that can show it.
…..but why?
This megapixel war is just ridiculous.
OM-3? Only if it is full frame! My old Zuiko lenses are still waiting for it. (Will never happen I guess)
Canon APC with a stacked sensor? I wonder if it will have IBIS? Nikon, doesn't this sound like an updated mirrorless D500. A wildlife photographers dream? It might be a video-centric camera (and I suspect it will lack IBIS if it will br priced at $1500) but I can imagine wildlife photographers would kill for this.
I hope this will finally spur Nikon to create an actual mirrorless D500 replacement that has everything (IBIS, stacked or partially stacked sensor, great EVF, great AF). And no, the Z50 MII isnt even close.
So this Canon R10C is just an M6 MK II with an HDMI Port, RF Mount, and unlocked video features Magic Lantern would have provided.
No Hot Shoe ?
What replaves it ?
Something better?
Sehr interessant. Gruß Jürgen 🤠
Just why?
Very interesting.
Dials are better than screen controls ..
I want 4k for Thermal camera.
Changing Nikon lens in space - but it still has that ridiculous reverse thread!
A drone for upskiirt?!
R7c with a fan would be great.
How many f/1.1 lenses are going to be available to resolve every pixel on a 410 MP?
At normal, affordable f/2.8 you’re down to 62 MP of usable, true fidelity on full frame.
And those are best-scenario, perfect glass, theoretical numbers.
No one ever talks about or understands diffraction limiting.
Announcing a 410 MP sensor with 8 FPS without there being any storage media on the market in the distant future that could reproduce this write rate is simply a bottomless impudence or at least an equally bottomless stupidity. In the end, a camera is not just made up of a sensor. Quite the opposite! As long as what the sensor records cannot be written away, it is not even a camera but simply megabits of entropy.
Tony has an extra arm and hand, and a head with a well-defined velocity, but poorly defined position, at 7:45!
compact cameras will come back.. this was biggest mistake by most of camera companies. now which ever company will make the first great hybrid compact camera. Will go to the 🚀
DJI MINI 3, MINI 3 PRO, MINI 4 PRO can look up. This new Mavic 4 is cool, but damn, avoid hit that drone or the gimbal will be busted.