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Josh Pate On Kalen DeBoer Winning At Alabama (Late Kick Cut)
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- Опубліковано 15 січ 2024
- Kalen DeBoer has been hired as the new head coach at Alabama, and Josh Pate responded to the hire with several thoughts. Is Kalen DeBoer the right hire at the right time? How will he be able to acclimate to things in the SEC? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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Well said, Josh. I am 57 and my first game attended was in 1974. I grew up with Bear, and then watched nearly 3 decades of everything from losing seasons to the greatest dynasty in the history of the sport. I feel fortunate. I knew this day would come, but i'm prepared to move forward. Crimson & white till I die. RTR.
Same
Respect and Roll Tide sir!
RTR❤
Respect from the land of scarlet and cream! Rolltide! GBR!
I grew up on the Bear in the early sixties, was taken to games at Legion Field. That built an Empire of CFB regarding Bama. Longtime fans are diehards. We hit lean years, saw the nineties teams (remember Teague?!!!) and saw things tank. Then we get Saban and that Empire became a Dynasty. I knew Saban would retire, and I also knew that there was no way Saban and Byrne would get anything but the best. This deal was in the works, it was cemented very quickly. DeBoer is a fantastic hire, a master chess move. Bank on it. RTR 🐘🏈
I’m behind our new HC. Thank you Coach Saban and Greg Byrne for looking after our best interests, our Dynasty. We believe.
Bama fans were so fortunate to have Saban to have won all those titles - it was amazing!
As an Oregon fan, I’m still hoping for them winning just one natty. It’ll happen, just don’t know when. But hey, I’m optimistic.
Bama has a great hire in Deboer. His Huskies team beat the Ducks three times in two years and that sucks. He’s a good coach. Bama will be fine.
As an Oregon alumnus, I don't worry about DeBoer's ability. I only wonder if Bama fans will run him out of town in 3-4 years for not being Sabin.
Wow I never thought about that, then the fans and supporters need to cool their jets LOL not to become a hindrance. OR a fine program and tradition@@daelkolwitz3509
@@daelkolwitz3509No because nobody is going to be SABAN we all know that .
We know things will never be the same but this guy could be a great coach nobody knows yet.
ROLL TIDE TILL I DIE
Oregon will never win, even with all of uncle Phil’s cash. Just focus on the Timbers
Roll Tide! In Pate and In DeBoer we trust! 💪🐘💨
Amen, and Roll Tide!
Coach Deboer in my opinion is use to people doubting him..He literally had to beat Oregon twice to get respect. To the shock of many who jump ship before it even sailed, Coach Deboer voyage will be bumpy at first but smooth sailing the rest of the way..best of luck to him in Alabama. Roll Tide 😌
He beat Oregon three times .
@@JeffBird86and Texas twice (both essentially road games)...
Bro, two years worth of D1 experience. You actually think he has the same pedigree as Saban don’t you. Very comical, reality is going to slap you upside your head very hard. 😢
@@musicbyTaraRosewell then that means he is the best coach in D1 presently right? LMAO. Poor Bama fans, hoping and praying on two years of D1 experience. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
As a Bama fan from the mike era, who already misses Nick, Im excited for the Deboer era
Man Josh, speak that truth! 80’s Bama fan still rocking. Tell it like it is. This will weed out the bandwagon people. Stay real!
Wow Josh you are one of the best analysts on the internet, incredible body of work. Coach DeBoer is an expert at Football development and he is relentless.
I'm 54. Been through all the crap. I hope this guy does great.
I'm 27 and vividly remember the Mike Shula era and I cried after several games as a kid we cannot go back 😂
Don’t worry, we aren’t. Remember even LSU under Les Miles won a NC in the 2 years after Saban left. Coach Saban instilled The Process at Alabama for 17 years. And he’s still around to make sure it stays. And DeBoer is a smart coach and knows what he’s inherited.
He’s a winner and a winner wins no matter where he goes!
I have been a Bear and a Saban fan and after the last 3 years, I'll say with the way this is shaping up I'm excited for next year! Bama has needed some changes and now we got a lot but I think we are gonna be fine!!!
Actually I think a lot of Bama fans have had that thought but wouldn't speak it because it felt disrespectful to coach Saban.
Buddy they're done for, dont get your hopes up.
I am fine with DeBoer. The fact that all his coaches came with him says a lot. the dude is a winner. We have enough money to buy the best recruiters.
We do not have the same amount of money as texas, texas am, georgia, or other powers and we do not have an nil collective like other powers. Easy to hide when you have nick saban recruiting. If we don’t put one together soon we may be in trouble
Coaches are the best recruiters, and Deboer's staff is severely lacking in that department
They lacked at Washington. He won't in the SEC at a big school 🤷@@Mark-zx2bq
@@davebryant8050 - it has been a week, Capt Fairweather
Look at the shape he left Washington in. They'll probably go 6-6 or worse this year. I wouldn't put too much faith in him. He's using Bama to get to the NFL. He's going to use Nick's kids to make him look good, then he'll be gone, and Alabama will be as hollow as Washington is now.
Keeping some of the Bama staff together was key.
Man, what has this dude got to do to prove himself? Nobody thought he would beat Oregon, he did it not once but twice in the same damn season. Nobody, including me, thought he would get past Texas. But he did. And I know the team itself had a lot to do with it but somebody was coaching them and the coaches always say when they lose it's their fault for not preparing them so it's also their fault when they win. Anyone who thinks that Alabama just became an easy out with the talent we have( and I think we'll keep most) may have not thought this thru. LANK/ LANG
He hasn't shown he can recruit to save his life. Washington had the 38th ranked class in a year they made the playoff
@@Mark-zx2bq Based on what I saw that was all he needed for Texas
@@ckennedy309 Son, he needed the most sixth year seniors in the country (10). Try again
@@Mark-zx2bq I don't have family in Texas, we're just not arrogant enough. Just be glad you didn't see Michigan.
@@ckennedy309 right back at ya; nobody ran the ball against Texas (and JJ is terrible)
If you are a top quterback,wide receiver or a op running back. You will come. His offensive will set you up with for Sunday. His offensive line coach will also set you up. His defense backs will practice against pros
Strength coach is staying, David Ballou. So is head trainer and staff, Jeff Allen.
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For the record, I love that Joe Kines interview 😂
Its like economics and the "invisible hand". Things over time realign and life moves forward. Im excited about this next chapter for Alabama and will continue to support The Tide! 💯
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I agree Josh, however I am a Bama fan that is 28 and I remember watching Dennis Franchione, Mike Price, Mike Shula. I went to school in Alabama and had to listen to Auburn fans when they beat us 6 years in a row. Saban was a blessing, and I remember when we signed him the entire college football world knew what was coming (unless they were in denial).
That said, I do remember a time when Alabama was mediocre, and the only highlights I could watch were from 1992 and before. Can't wait to see what DeBoer does next.
You are always on point Mr Pate 🙏🏿‼️🥶✊🏾
DeBoer is literally the best guy on the market and we got him. Can't ask for much more.
He is gonna be fine!
I grew up in the Gene Stalling Era of Alabama Football as a fan.
This guy has been a winner everywhere he has been and you can bet that he will have the Tide Rolling.
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I’m 31 and have been in Tuscaloosa for 26 years, like hell I don’t remember pre-Saban. The last 17 years have been amazing. I have excitement for the future. Ready to see what DeBoer can bring.
Whoa I’m 31 and remember when we almost got the football death penalty. Man that independence bowl game was rough.
Been a fan of Alabama since 1990 I remember the Mikes and that Joe Kines interview I think Alabama going be ok no worries here.
I remember those "Mike" days all too well!!! But I still love Joe Kines!!! Just gotta stop that lil inside trap!!! 😉 As for Coach DeBoer, I absolutely LOVE the guys energy!!! I think we gonna be just fine!!! RTR!!!
I'm 49 and I briefly remember the Bear, but I do remember Perkins, Curry, and Coach Stallings. Coach Stallings was a good coach, but I also remember, DeBose, Franchione (🖕), Price, Shula, and Kines for a game. And when they were replacing Shula I was praying not Rodriguez. Thank God he took the Michigan job. When they hired the GOAT Saban I was ecstatic. I was thinking hopefully if he stays long enough Bama will get 3 nattys and some SEC championships. Damn, he smashed that. DeBoer I haven't seen much of Sioux Falls or Washington. We all got spoiled during Saban's tenure and I hope DeBoer Stays a while and proves people wrong. Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
I went through the Mike years those were rough. My freshman year off college was 2008 season and was at the iron bowl when we beat Auburn for the first time in years. As long as 2006 isn't the new standard and it's more like 2008 2021 I'll be a on
I was a student at Bama during the Shula years. Josh put that ish into perspective for these kids. Don't jump off Bryant Denny, it's not tall enough, I've tried.
I think Coach DeBoer has put together a staff that will help the team have every opportunity for success that can be expected. I’m not saying that we should expect six Nattys in the next 14 seasons, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect at least a good team with at least an average opportunity to succeed.
RTR
WDE Deboer is going get HIV from you delusional fans WDE!!!!!
With these schedules for SEC teams, 9-3 is realistic for most everyone.
With 2 new teams added to the SEC it's going to be tougher to win the conference but fun to watch
If Deboer wins,they will come.
Space alien as coach had me rolling! Roll Tide! We'll be fine folks!
shit i am 36 and i remember the probation era and many bad coach and QB as well before saben. Saben was a gift that relived a fan base and brought many more just because of saben but us who been here before saben know this is rocky roads and the first year will tell a lot for kalen but his overall coaching record 109-12 and 25-3 in college alone is crazy saben story will be told like bear when he is gone for the generation that never got to see him in action his memories are recorded forever
Yeah you’re exactly right, I’ve been in it hard since the early 70’s. So yes these younger fans are in for ride. But I believe they’ve done a lot better job in this job search. Yeah it’s going to be tuff for them because I went through the years after the Bear. RTR🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘
This is the same guy who said that Bryan Harsin could excel in the SEC. I mean, he wasn’t definitive about it because he’s never definitive about anything he talks about, but he did compare him to Urban Meyer coming to the SEC.
His heart is taking over his thinking. Missed quite a few here lately.
Dat boy Coach Shawn called it.....u got my respect
I’m 28 turning 29 and sadly grew up with the 6 losing streak to Auburn I was 13 when we finally broke that. I remember being so happy we finally beat them since I was 6 in 2001 and first ever in Tuscaloosa so if DeBoer wins in 2024 be the 2nd Alabama Head Coach to win in Tuscaloosa against Auburn. Tried to block out Pre Saban due to trauma lol. I remember the big 3 of 6 losses Saban’s Inaugural Season FSU (my dad is a FSU fan and was doing the Chop wouldn’t play them again to get revenge till 2017 10 years later), Louisiana Rajun Cajuns had a relatives wedding in Phenix City who’s family friend huge Alabama fan and said if we lost he wouldn’t go to the reception and he didn’t go to the reception, and Auburn went to the 1st half but even with layers was so cold and went back to tailgate at halftime. Ironically lived in Tuscaloosa since August 1 2021 and sadly still haven’t been to game in Tuscaloosa (hope I can in 2024). Roll Tide Forever!!!
Welcome back to Earth, Bama.
You make a fair point
33 and I grew up with all the mikes. Hard times being a middle and high school 30 mins away from title town and listen to all the fear the thumb talk.
The last 4 years Michigan have not had a recruiting class higher than number 9, and have done reasonably well.
“A trust fund fan.” 😂 Always great content! Roll tide!
"Trust fund fan" Hahaha, _love_ IT!
We'll see on Sept. 28th when GA. comes to T-Town.
Saban couldn’t have done what he did at any other school. The combination of Alabama and Nick Saban was what was deadly. While he had LSU winning, they were winning at the level he was at Alabama. Imagine how pissed of the college football world is going to be when Alabama has the next greatest to ever do it!
If he hadn’t gone to Miami he def wouldve done it at LSU
I’m 30 and I grew up thru the probation years I vaguely remember Shaun Alexander but I remember 2000 and Andrew zow I remember the Tyler watts year I remember how happy everyone was we got Brodie just to be disappointed cuz he stayed hurt I remember being down your 3rd string QB back to back years I remember when 2005 happened and we was happy af and then died because of what happened to prothro.. I ain’t a trust fund bama fan I lived thru the hard years and still rooted for them every game.. so having Saban to actually see Alabama be great all the way up to now I’m grateful because believe me it was ROUGH for many years and I believe in kalen and what he can do.. we’ve needed to modernize our system and it’s finally gonna happen we aren’t gonna dominate like Saban but we’re not gonna fall back into the “Mike” era
Very well said! I’m very interested in this next chapter! I think this new coach brings some juice and some great things. Here’s to the new! Roll Tide!
Good analogy. I grew up in the Jordan era
Kane Wommack has been hired as DC
As a 21 year old all I’ve known is the Saban era. After seeing all the transfers it’s been hard but still looking forward to the next season
If he was not confident in his ability to do the job, he would have come because he had a great job.
My first thought when Coach Saban retired was, "My kids will grow up as losers." Then Coach DeBoer was hired and my heart was not nearly as heavy. I'm excited for this new Era of Alabama Football.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Is this a serious comment?
As a 47 year old, lifelong Bama fan, I've been trying to warn the younger/newer fans for years. I hope they enjoyed the rare air when it was here. MJ has retired and they're going to have to get used to watching mortals.
I'm going out on a limb here...I think we compete for natty in his 1st yr. You heard me right ! Next year national championship!
He is keeping strength and conditioning. Kade Wommack from South Alabama is the DC
I mean, I’m 33 and I remember Stallings, Dubose, Price Shula, Franchione….. I remember it all. Highly doubt we could ever go back to as mediocre as the Mike era.
I’m older than you and remember Bill Curry. Less than mediocre
@@1sh1kll9You not lying 😂
I'm 31, and those 6 years in a row losing to Auburn were brutal 😂. I'll never forget how bad we once were
Never say never lol. Wait for the coaching hiring and firing carousel to restart. Happens to all of us eventually
Change is good. We will be ok. As a 51 year old born bleeding crimson I know pain. But the tide will rise. Maybe not a championship so often. But we had 12 before Saban. With money the way it is, it was just time before equality was coming. But we will win more than lose. This guys isn’t a slouch.
War Eagle 🦅
This sounds like a fan video from Bamaonline 😂😂😂
Josh...Deboer retaining David Ballou strength n conditioning coach!!! Also...Jeff Allen(trainer n staff) too...plus today hired Kane Wommack(HC) south alabama as new DC / with Buffalo's (HC) as co-DC
I was 26 when Bryant died. Seen most all of it.
I’m 26 years old and I witnessed Tyrone Prothro’s injury vs Florida in 2005 at the age of 8 and I cried. I was a young fan but a fan nonetheless when Mike Shula was Head Coach at Bama. They sucked, frankly. I still pulled for them then and I’m still gonna pull for them now. That being said I do expect Alabama to have a higher ceiling with Kalen Deboer because he is a modern coach who has had success in bad situations. Roll Tide forever.
SEC is changing. I don't think 10 wins is the same anymore.
I'm 36 and attended Bama when Saban ended the 6 game losing streak to Auburn. I saw all the Mike failures, The Albert Means/fat Phil fiasco. I Have seen the highs and lows of the program. I knew the day Saban retired it would be tough, but with the right hire Bama would be okay. I didn't say they would remain at the Nick Saban dynasty level because that's next to impossible. All the Bama fans that think Bama should be in the playoffs every single season are unrealistic trust fund fans as you said. I will say that Kirby is absolutely capable of having the success that Saban has had. He's already won 2 and now he doesn't have Saban to contend with and he knows it. He won 2 and played for another while signing top 2 recruiting classes every year during the Saban era.
Amen Bro!
Since 64 I've watched the Tide I've seen the Bad and the Good. Don't worry it will be okay 👍 Roll Tide 🌊
If Coach DeBoer can match or be a bit better than even Coach Stallings, who averaged 10 wins per year, I'll be happy.
😂 Nick Saban is A Space Alien 😅
Is he the space alien Josh keeps talking to?
Yea I’l am sure the same folks leaving out creampies and cokes at the saban statue like it’s a memorial service are gonna have the wisdom and strength to not apply the same standards and expectations onto the new guy and reaction very normally to 8 wins, consecutive no playoffs making seasons.
Definitely.
By all indications Deboer seems to be a winning coach so as a Bama fan I was optimistic when his hiring was announced Friday. However the transition is turning out to be an *UNMITIGATED DISASTER!* Every day since Saturday the news has gotten worse and worse as far as mass exodus of key staff, players and recruits. It started with the bizarre news Saturday morning that DB coach and top recruiter Tavarious Robinson, who had widely been expected to be named DC by Nick Saban, was leaving for a DB / "co-DC" job at UGA without even having been interviewed by Deboer. Apparently Deboer alienated Robinson right off the bat when the met on Friday and later was unable to lure T-Rob back despite an offer to be Bama DC for substantially more money than he will get as "co-DC" at UGA. Furthermore, Deboer was apparently unable/unwilling to attract any legitimate experienced marquee replacement DC, which has subsequently led to a mass exodus of defensive players -- especially DBs including Dezz Ricks, Trey Amos, and *GENERATIONAL TALENT* Caleb Downs, who will almost certainly follow T-Rob to UGA. Meanwhile several previously committed 2025 recruits (e.g. 5-star Edge Javion Hilson) have now de-committed after being frustrated by lack of communication from Deboer and his staff. I don't care how good of an Xs-and-Os coach Deboer may be, their is no excuse for his ham-handed mismanagement of people / relationships and the catastrophic damage it has caused in only five days!
Josh is my favorite person to listen too. People need to realize 2 things. Saban is 1 of 1. And 2, DeBoer isn’t Saban. He is his own man. He’s a great coach and person. LFG, Roll Tide and we need to get behind our new coach! If you don’t know shit about our new coach either stfu and enjoy the ride or go to a new team
I was around before the Saban era, but I still feel like a spoiled Bama fan.
Being from Columbus, GA, the only must is…Bama must beat Auburn.
You must have Bama parents living being from Columbus and not an AU fan.
It's about the Jimmys and Joes Josh.
You gotta be Joshing me. I give DeBoer two years. Roll over tide!
Jealousy isn’t a good look 👀
Excellent podcast my friend. Everything you said was absolutely spot on. I have been on multiple platforms saying exactly the same thing. Great hire, yet he isn't and will never be Saban. Reality check is just around the corner. Not a bad thing, just more normal seasons versus the super natural they have been more accustomed to. Alabama 2024 record: 9-3 or even the unthinkable 8-4. Welcome to the real 😂😂
Delusional AF
I think Deboar is a good coach but what made Nick saban king of college football people believes in him will people go all in and trust deboar with all their heart
Josh you need to move that number 20 somethings.
What kind of question is that Pate? He’s won everywhere else. No need to watch 104-12 speaks for itself.
I was around for Ray Perkins, Bill Curry, Mike Shula, Dennis Francione, Mike Price and Gene Stalling's offense 😂... I'm prepared.
My uncle RIP played high school football with Bill Curry.
I remember the dark years the Mikes....... but I also remember Stallings thank God Saban was amazing but we all knew it had to happen one day
DeBoer won with a team of players that played college football since 2016-2017. His players had mortgages. He inherited a lot of the Washington Roster. Rome and McMillan were already there. We’ve yet to see him recruit well out of high school and it’ll be that much harder recruiting for Bama when they don’t think they need to participate in NIL. He’s already losing players.
Tide till I died !!!!!!! Roll Damn
I already know his opinion before starting the video. The same as all his other opinions on new hires
Bama might be rolling before that Georgia game.
Josh, 3-4 SEC teams are top 10 in recruiting each year, the question is what will he do with that talent. Looks like he can’t keep the players there now, several 4-5 stars have left and transferred. Oh but reality sucks doesn’t it. 😢
Joe Kines is still trying to stop that little inside trap . . .
He will do just fine. Even idiots win ten games at Bama. This dude is a winner!
He retained the strength and conditioning coach. We are in good hands RTR
Well, Alabama has only two decades since 1925 that they haven't won a National Championship. 1950's and 1980's. Every other decade besides those two, they have NC hardware. So history says it won't be too awful bad.
The dynasty is just beginning! 😊
FORE FATHERS !!!
Love you content Josh, but I gotta say I’m offended 😂😂 born in 95, and I sat through the short Mike Shula era before Saban came and it was rough as a kid lol
I disagree. Looking at our schedule we will be favored in every game except maybe Georgia. So win the games you are supposed to win. Even with the transfers leaving we are more talented player per player than every team we play except maybe 1. I think he is going to be a good coach but lowering our standards shouldn’t be an option. Had 12 before saban
Did Josh really just say off hand that kirby is not even remotely capable of replicating Nick Sabans' success on the field? Uh, what? Not saying Kirby will replicate it but he 100% capable.
Roll tide
You don’t think Kirby can at least “remotely come close” to matching Saban? Maybe even surpass him