Watercolor ---Turner's concentrated Artists' Watercolours Maya Blue DANIEL SMITH PrimaTek Watercolor. Mayan Blue Genuine DANIEL SMITH Mayan Dark Blue (PB82) Greenleaf & Blueberry Mayan Blue Greenleaf & Blueberry Mayan Blue #2 Oil --- Rublev Colours Maya Blue - Pigment Blue 82 (77520) Acrylic --- DERIVAN MAYAN Blue Acrylic Paints naturalpigments Maya Blue Pigment Pigment Blue 82
Thanks for listening to my suggestion! I was truly happy when I saw the video. Mayan Blue is one of the most permanent pigments available and it is due to its unique composition. I am glad to see that other artists have enjoyed it as well. I believe that every curious artist will always be excited to see a new pigment or art material that was unknown to them, and if such materias has a great history behind, it is even better! Once again, thanks Walcott! PS: Mayan Blue on temples and other ceramic figures does look different. I think that the real formula has been lost in time and researchers have been only proposing their own version of Mayan Blue. Therefore, differences in color do arise. Nevertheless, the study of the pigment itself is what makes this fun.
Thanks, Jason. This sparked my interest enough to check it out. I didnt do a thorough research project like you said you did, Jason. Just a quick simple google search and found this for anyone who might be interested on your channel including yourself. I may go deeper into this when I get home. You can buy this color pigment (and oil paint color) from Natural Pigments online. With it, you can create your own oil, acrylic and watercolor colors. Evidently, they are calling it Pigment index Blue 82. According to their website, Maya Blue is a mixture of both inorganic (paylgorskite clay) and organic (blue dye) elements-no known organic pigments today can come close to the stability of Maya Blue over so many years. Maya Blue is remarkably stable in acids, alkalis, and solvents, so it is suitable for almost all artists' mediums, including fresco and casein. For more info, check out Natural Pigments website or wikipedia's history on the pigment. Fun stuff. 👍✌🏻 Cheers..
Thanks for the great comment and for the information! Yes, Natural Pigment offers the dry pigment, but not the paint as far as I know. I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
Hi Jason. Rublev does make Maya Blue oil paint. Try looking at the colors under Rublev oil paints. On the first page, you'll find it about 9 items down Item# 820-1122 Maya Blue 50ml tube / $42.50 I found it by literally typing Maya Blue oil paint into Google. I'm happy to help.
If there's indigo in it, which is a dye, it's not likely to granulate - although there are granulating mediums: would be interesting to apply them to this paint.
Indigofera tinctoria, also called true indigo, is a species of plant from the bean family that was one of the original sources of indigo dye. Isatis tinctoria, also called woad (/ˈwoʊd/), dyer's woad, or glastum, is a flowering plant in the family Brassicaceae.
@@walcottfineart5088 oh I see, thx for this info. To be honest, I am so so happy with the paint tubes I got from Blue Ridge oil paint based on one of your awesome 🙏 video demonstrations. I got the earth colors as I am only starting with oils and all I practice is (for the most part) monochromatic with Y ocher and Umbers. What a delight it is to use that brand. I also got 5 small tubes from Lukas that I am yet to use as they are reds and yellow. Thank you for all the effort you put into helping us. You and artists like you make our art journey easier 🙏🎨🖌
I’m not a watercolourist either I can’t wrap my brain around doing it backwards from the way I do it in oils LOL , but it was an interesting video and a very lovely colour. Thank you Jason👍🏻😃
My father worked with the guy that invented/stumbled across pthalocyanine blue in the mid 60's. I believe he worked at ICI in Scotland. His name was Joe Glassman. Later worked at Project Technology. I vaguely remember an old bespectacled man when I went to dad's work there once as a young boy. A gloomy English day from memory. I think we had a cup of tea in a laboratory! The story goes that in the (ICI 1920's?) he noticed a very bright blue forming around a crack in an enamel dish when a solution was placed in it. I have applied it to many a painting in various hues. A little goes a long way. Also called Monastral blue and even Monestial blue on some tubes. My father told me Mr Glassman had invented Monastral blue, I later found out it was the Pthalo/Thalo blue I had been using as a student when I purchased a Monastral blue artist's oil tube. Whether he was the sole inventor or part of a team I don't know. Guess the company gets most of the credit. Why Mr Perkin was lucky establishing his own company. The Mayan blue looks more like an indigoid pigment which I have (Schminke's?) I think that is fairly permanent. Pthalo in v.small quantities with Paynes grey +/or black? Or Indanthrene blue/white with a little less black? Might be near matches? I haven't seen the product mentioned here.
@@rickh3714 That is insanely cool! What a great story to have about the Phthalo Blue. The Mayan Blue does seem to be a type of Indigo. I found out later after this video was posted that Rublev also carries it in oils, and they list Mayan blue as PB82 or "Indigo on a Palygorskite Clay Base". Thanks for watching! :)
There's always someone - they seem to visit just about every useful, informative video and leave a 'dislike' tick; sad and bitter people, not worth bothering with.
@@ΝικόλαοςΚαλλές You're right, but even so, even the original indigo wasn't of a remotely turquoise hue (and wasn't lightfast either). Modern indigo tends to be a mixture of pthalo blue and black, or Payne's Grey: so should be more lightfast, but - turquoise it ain't!
Thanks for watching! I have never used either the Langridge or the Geneva, but the Schmincke Mussini are nice paints. I have a couple of tubes of them. They contain a damar resin added right to the paint so they do have a stronger odor than most oil paints. Hope that helps :)
@ Spafon1 - No difference, it's the same real deal Maya Blue. Natural pigments source for this pigment: 'Maya Blue was developed by the Maya occupying Mesoamerica for the first millennium C.E. Today, a U.S. company has unlocked the secrets of Maya Blue and patented the process to create hybrid organic/inorganic pigments based on research to find the origin of the blue color.' Yes, it's the real deal.
@@amysbees6686 This gets more and more interesting, because that pigment is also based on indigo, with added clays: nowhere near the turquoise hue suggested by one contributor (which I must say made sense to me) - I'm seriously confused now!
@@RobertJonesWightpaint Maya blue was made mixing palygorskite clay with indigo. Then heated. It needs this clay in order to make a stable bond. I'm currently trying to make my own, I've had 1 successful attempt but the indigo is quite low quality, so the result is a light, slightly grayish baby blue. I'll try again with a better indigo pigment.
I am surprised you didn't find it at Natural Pigments. They have it in oil paints. It is called Maya Blue, PB82. It's a really nice color & only one pigment, which I like. Thank you for the video. The color looks pretty similar to the oil version I have.
Have you asked the Rublev people about it? They do so much research into historic colours. they might have some interesting information. Just a thought - thanks!!
@@amysbees6686 Thanks Amy! They do sell it! I Googled "Mayan Blue oil paint" when researching this video and that never came up. Weird. All I could find was the Daniel Smith color Good to know! :)
I think woad was the pigment used by the ancient Celts to paint themselves for battle. Think of Mel Gibson in that movie where he played William Wallace.
I think someone else has said that the colour you have there doesn't look like the blue you find in Mayan artworks - which struck me, too - but then, would their paint have been in a watercolour formation; and how might it have changed over the centuries? Hard questions to answer.... the Mayan blues I've seen, or rather the blues used in Mayan art anyway, don't look a lot like indigo - and genuine indigo is not, I think, lightfast. So many questions about this colour - and I don't have any answers to them, but the video was interesting nonetheless.
Yeah it's hard to say whether the Daniel Smith and Rublev pigments are the same as the actual Mayan Blue. From what I understand it was a combination of several things. Keep in mind too that my camera doesn't reproduce color very well, so you shouldn't judge it too much by what you see in my video. But it's the best I can do for now. Thanks for watching!
Watercolor ---Turner's concentrated Artists' Watercolours Maya Blue
DANIEL SMITH PrimaTek Watercolor. Mayan Blue Genuine
DANIEL SMITH Mayan Dark Blue (PB82)
Greenleaf & Blueberry Mayan Blue
Greenleaf & Blueberry Mayan Blue #2
Oil --- Rublev Colours Maya Blue - Pigment Blue 82 (77520)
Acrylic --- DERIVAN MAYAN Blue Acrylic Paints
naturalpigments Maya Blue Pigment Pigment Blue 82
Thanks for listening to my suggestion! I was truly happy when I saw the video. Mayan Blue is one of the most permanent pigments available and it is due to its unique composition. I am glad to see that other artists have enjoyed it as well. I believe that every curious artist will always be excited to see a new pigment or art material that was unknown to them, and if such materias has a great history behind, it is even better!
Once again, thanks Walcott!
PS: Mayan Blue on temples and other ceramic figures does look different. I think that the real formula has been lost in time and researchers have been only proposing their own version of Mayan Blue. Therefore, differences in color do arise. Nevertheless, the study of the pigment itself is what makes this fun.
Thanks, Jason. This sparked my interest enough to check it out.
I didnt do a thorough research project like you said you did, Jason. Just a quick simple google search and found this for anyone who might be interested on your channel including yourself. I may go deeper into this when I get home.
You can buy this color pigment (and oil paint color) from Natural Pigments online. With it, you can create your own oil, acrylic and watercolor colors. Evidently, they are calling it Pigment index Blue 82.
According to their website, Maya Blue is a mixture of both inorganic (paylgorskite clay) and organic (blue dye) elements-no known organic pigments today can come close to the stability of Maya Blue over so many years. Maya Blue is remarkably stable in acids, alkalis, and solvents, so it is suitable for almost all artists' mediums, including fresco and casein.
For more info, check out Natural Pigments website or wikipedia's history on the pigment. Fun stuff. 👍✌🏻
Cheers..
Thanks for the great comment and for the information! Yes, Natural Pigment offers the dry pigment, but not the paint as far as I know. I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
Hi Jason.
Rublev does make Maya Blue oil paint.
Try looking at the colors under Rublev oil paints. On the first page, you'll find it about 9 items down
Item# 820-1122
Maya Blue 50ml tube / $42.50
I found it by literally typing
Maya Blue oil paint into Google.
I'm happy to help.
@@powercourageandwisdom Yes I just found that! I'm not sure how I missed that when I was reaserching this video.
Cool video. This is a new one to me. Never heard of Mayan blue before. Very interesting
I'm glad you enjoyed it! It's not a paint I normally use, but a viewer requested this video. It does have an interesting history :)
Yeah,that isn't Maya blue. Pretty but not close.
I think watercolor brands also have a Mayan Red ( no PR index #) some videos on youtube look like Red Iron oxide + quin Rose/ Red.
Nice. I'm curious enough to go and check out if it granulates and if it stains or lifts easily. Thanks.
If there's indigo in it, which is a dye, it's not likely to granulate - although there are granulating mediums: would be interesting to apply them to this paint.
Indigofera tinctoria, also called true indigo, is a species of plant from the bean family that was one of the original sources of indigo dye.
Isatis tinctoria, also called woad (/ˈwoʊd/), dyer's woad, or glastum, is a flowering plant in the family Brassicaceae.
Thanks for the information and for watching!
Interesting. Never heard of it before. Thx
I found out after I posted this video you can also get Mayan Blue from Rublev. Thanks for watching! :)
@@walcottfineart5088 oh I see, thx for this info. To be honest, I am so so happy with the paint tubes I got from Blue Ridge oil paint based on one of your awesome 🙏 video demonstrations. I got the earth colors as I am only starting with oils and all I practice is (for the most part) monochromatic with Y ocher and Umbers. What a delight it is to use that brand. I also got 5 small tubes from Lukas that I am yet to use as they are reds and yellow. Thank you for all the effort you put into helping us. You and artists like you make our art journey easier 🙏🎨🖌
@@JH-ct9fj That's great! Thanks :)
I’m not a watercolourist either I can’t wrap my brain around doing it backwards from the way I do it in oils LOL , but it was an interesting video and a very lovely colour. Thank you Jason👍🏻😃
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching :)
I completely get it!!! 😩😂
Sincerely,
A watercolorist trying to oil paint.
@@ashlyrz252 LOL Thanks for watching!
Make a video where you colormatch"mayan blue" with oil paints😍😍😍🙃🙃
Thanks for watching! That actually wouldn't be too hard. The color of Mayan blue is easily mimicked by mixing Phthalo Blue and Black :)
It does look like phthalo blue. My favorite pigment.
It's similar to Phthalo Blue, but much duller, like Phthalo Blue mixed with black. Thanks for watching!
My father worked with the guy that invented/stumbled across pthalocyanine blue in the mid 60's. I believe he worked at ICI in Scotland. His name was Joe Glassman.
Later worked at Project Technology. I vaguely remember an old bespectacled man when I went to dad's work there once as a young boy. A gloomy English day from memory. I think we had a cup of tea in a laboratory!
The story goes that in the (ICI 1920's?) he noticed a very bright blue forming around a crack in an enamel dish when a solution was placed in it. I have applied it to many a painting in various hues. A little goes a long way. Also called Monastral blue and even Monestial blue on some tubes. My father told me Mr Glassman had invented Monastral blue, I later found out it was the Pthalo/Thalo blue I had been using as a student when I purchased a Monastral blue artist's oil tube.
Whether he was the sole inventor or part of a team I don't know. Guess the company gets most of the credit. Why Mr Perkin was lucky establishing his own company.
The Mayan blue looks more like an indigoid pigment which I have (Schminke's?) I think that is fairly permanent. Pthalo in v.small quantities with Paynes grey +/or black? Or Indanthrene blue/white with a little less black? Might be near matches? I haven't seen the product mentioned here.
@@rickh3714 That is insanely cool! What a great story to have about the Phthalo Blue. The Mayan Blue does seem to be a type of Indigo. I found out later after this video was posted that Rublev also carries it in oils, and they list Mayan blue as PB82 or "Indigo on a Palygorskite Clay Base". Thanks for watching! :)
who dislike this?
like its a very good video
Thanks for watching! :)
There's always someone - they seem to visit just about every useful, informative video and leave a 'dislike' tick; sad and bitter people, not worth bothering with.
@@RobertJonesWightpaint Probably every single video on UA-cam has dislikes, so I don't even pay attention to them! LOL
Maya blue is a turquoise blue color, you buy a color completely diferent
@@ΝικόλαοςΚαλλές You're right, but even so, even the original indigo wasn't of a remotely turquoise hue (and wasn't lightfast either). Modern indigo tends to be a mixture of pthalo blue and black, or Payne's Grey: so should be more lightfast, but - turquoise it ain't!
@@ΝικόλαοςΚαλλές Thank you for that reply which is extremely interesting.
If they studied the chemistry and matched it, then it implies that the Mayan version maybe WAS a dark indigo blue originally, but faded over time
Do you know anything about these 3 brands of oil paint: Geneva, Mussini Schmincki, and Langridge?
Thanks for watching! I have never used either the Langridge or the Geneva, but the Schmincke Mussini are nice paints. I have a couple of tubes of them. They contain a damar resin added right to the paint so they do have a stronger odor than most oil paints. Hope that helps :)
@@walcottfineart5088 Thanks Jason. Does this mean the dark colors don't dry flat?
@@janetshaw8313 To be honest I haven't used them enough to know those specifics. I have only tried two or three colors to see what they were like.
@@walcottfineart5088 Thanks Jason.
Rublev has Mayan blue oil paint.
Yes I found that out after posting this video :) Thanks for watching!
Is Rublev's Maya Blue different?
@ Spafon1 - No difference, it's the same real deal Maya Blue.
Natural pigments source for this pigment:
'Maya Blue was developed by the Maya occupying Mesoamerica for the first millennium C.E. Today, a U.S. company has unlocked the secrets of Maya Blue and patented the process to create hybrid organic/inorganic pigments based on research to find the origin of the blue color.'
Yes, it's the real deal.
www.naturalpigments.com/maya-blue-oil-paint.html
@@amysbees6686 This gets more and more interesting, because that pigment is also based on indigo, with added clays: nowhere near the turquoise hue suggested by one contributor (which I must say made sense to me) - I'm seriously confused now!
@@RobertJonesWightpaint Maya blue was made mixing palygorskite clay with indigo. Then heated. It needs this clay in order to make a stable bond. I'm currently trying to make my own, I've had 1 successful attempt but the indigo is quite low quality, so the result is a light, slightly grayish baby blue. I'll try again with a better indigo pigment.
There are a few companies, and a few sellers on Etsy, that have Mayan Blue in watercolors. They come in varying shades of blue.
I am surprised you didn't find it at Natural Pigments. They have it in oil paints. It is called Maya Blue, PB82. It's a really nice color & only one pigment, which I like. Thank you for the video. The color looks pretty similar to the oil version I have.
Yes, I'm not sure how I missed that, but at least now I know. LOL Anyway, thanks for watching! :)
Have you asked the Rublev people about it? They do so much research into historic colours. they might have some interesting information. Just a thought - thanks!!
I will see what I can find out from them! Thanks for watching! :)
Not sure if it's the same pigment but Rublev does make a Maya blue
Yes, they offer the dry pigment, I don't know if it's the same as Daniel Smith? Thanks for watching!
www.naturalpigments.com/maya-blue-oil-paint.html
@@amysbees6686 Thanks Amy! They do sell it! I Googled "Mayan Blue oil paint" when researching this video and that never came up. Weird. All I could find was the Daniel Smith color Good to know! :)
Doesn't Rubelev oil paint from Natural Pigment carry Maya Blue?
They do! But I didn't find that out until after I had already uploaded this video. Thanks for watching!
I enjoy your pieces on pigments a lot...won’t make me a better artist, but for sure gives context and adds to my fun
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for watching :)
daniel smith have a full set of mayan color, so if you want to build a palette around mayan color, you can..
Thanks for watching! Yes, I've seen the other Mayan colors, although I have not used them. I do like the idea of their PrimaTek line.
Can you make a video by explaining all the colors?
I actually do have a series on different colors you may enjoy. It should be listed in my playlists. Thanks for watching! :)
I think woad was the pigment used by the ancient Celts to paint themselves for battle. Think of Mel Gibson in that movie where he played William Wallace.
You're probably right! I've read several books on pigment history that talk about Woad, which is similar to Indigo. Thanks for watching! :)
@@walcottfineart5088 Braveheart! I couldn't think of the name yesterday!
I think someone else has said that the colour you have there doesn't look like the blue you find in Mayan artworks - which struck me, too - but then, would their paint have been in a watercolour formation; and how might it have changed over the centuries? Hard questions to answer.... the Mayan blues I've seen, or rather the blues used in Mayan art anyway, don't look a lot like indigo - and genuine indigo is not, I think, lightfast. So many questions about this colour - and I don't have any answers to them, but the video was interesting nonetheless.
Yeah it's hard to say whether the Daniel Smith and Rublev pigments are the same as the actual Mayan Blue. From what I understand it was a combination of several things. Keep in mind too that my camera doesn't reproduce color very well, so you shouldn't judge it too much by what you see in my video. But it's the best I can do for now. Thanks for watching!