Hendrix, Floyd, and even Stones all had noise tracks. Its more common than people think, and you definitely missed Lou Reed- Metal Machine Music, when it comes to its origins. Hail, Sutekh Hexen, Ramleh, Masonna, Torture Cell Unit, Blue Sabbath Black Cheer, and 1000 Pieces all come highly recommended.
I think noise is a common feature in rock music compared to other styles. By nature rock is noisy the distortion, feedback etc . Def modern noise music took those features from rock and combined it with the production techniques of electronic and industrial music.I
Nick Cave and Warren Ellis came here, and their was a part where they just went full on noise. I'm sitting in the back pounding my fists and most people were just like "ok weird when is this part over". I kind of think serious music fans in general will appreciate noise and its counterpart experimental music. @@jakestatefarm2470
"Harsh Wall Noise" is arguably the end of the journey when it comes to the harsh end of the noise spectrum, e.g. The Rita. I ran the biggest noise netlabel, STS, for a few years, so I'm well versed in this world.
@MusicFromTheOutside fr? could you give a couple insights? i really only know a few noise bands, like merzbow and some japanese-based noise / powerviolence projects. it's really interesting to me and i like rhythm in noise music. what bands were signed under you?
@My_MoodyBlues There's so many good artists to choose from when it comes to rhythmic noise. We mainly released indie artists, but some like NRYY, Richard Ramirez (specifically his "One On Top of the Other" project, which I also did the artwork for), Filthy Turd, Noise Nazi (who isn't actually a nazi btw), Flat Affect, Hal Hutchinson, and Buddhist on Fire have gone on to be considered important acts. I ran STS around 2007/2008 or thereabouts, so I've been away from the scene for a while. There's a forum called "Special Interests" that's still a good resource for finding noise music. Also, "Noisewiki" is like a Wikipedia for noise, but it's not very well updated. Like I said, it's been a while since I was active in that world, but some of my old Chav Stabber material may be up your street. Check out the "At The Abortion Party" video on UA-cam, and also one called "Dual Channel Assault"; my other videos were banned from every site I uploaded to. 😂 I had a more rhythmic noise/industrial project called "Japsi", as well as an HNW project called "The Oceanic" and a more traditional harsh noise project called "Understand David". I really need to get back to producing noise again. 😂
The band Les Rallizes Denudes are honestly an ideal starting point for noise. Conventional songs with cool basslines, at least until the guitar solos drown everything out and it becomes a wall of static feedback sound.
I feel like Ramleh and The Hanatarashi wouldve also been perfect intro bands honestly some of hanatarash songs have this slow transition from noise to power electronics and Ramleh really have a lush for the anti-art
Funny thing is that i got into Wyattxhim through his Noise music vids, then after that i found out he liked death metal. Me being an oldhead for this channel really appreciated this video.
Yoko had already made a name for herself in that vague scene in the 60s, so it's likely. Not to mention Les Rallizes Denudes were pure noise rock by the early 70s. It's definitely possible The Beatles could've moved into that territory, but I suspect Yoko would have been the conduit for the transition.
Great video! I think another good intro artist for people starting with noise is Yellow Swans, since they mix it with more ambient drone on their albums Going Places and Descension. And for the intermediate noise, The Gerogerigegege is a classic which is more focused around perverse/bizarre humor and has a real punk feel. Nurse With Wound is great too for more surreal soundscape type of noise.
This is one of your best reviews, not necessarily because of the topic, but because of your delivery. Great critique, excellent vocabulary, interesting phrases. “Slither of rhythm.” Awesome
Steve Albini along with producing Nirvana and Whitehouse also produced many other albums, as well as being the mind behind noise rock bands Big Black and Shellac
Also the sheer amount of music noise artists put out can be daunting if someone wants to keep up. Seems like its not that difficult to come up with stuff to put up in the genre when every artist in it seems to have like 100 releases or something 😂
I still have to listen to "Bestial Burden" by Pharmakon. I've seen her live in Milan last may (my first industrial/noise concert) and it was mesmerising. The two projects that got me into this world were, without a doubt, Lingua Ignota and Gnaw Their Tongues, and I still think they offer some of the best material in their field. Discovering the former was crucial because she made me think: "Wait, so there is a person out there who loves classical music like me and wants to experiment with harsh sounds at the same time!? I must be more like her!". She is probably the only artst I had to stop listening to for some months because she is that emotionally enthralling and destructive. I have to be honest, Wyatt: though I had discovered Mories through some reviews in an Italian magazine, your videos regarding him were crucial. Your "Explaining GTT" was so important to me and without you I would not have listened to All the Dread with such a curiosity. Anyway, I think that Mories' strenghts are the eclecticism (a common trope in a lot of gateway bands: they mix new sounds with something familiar that can get you accustomed to the novelty) and the "full" sound that he is able to create: noise music can sometimes feel quite cheap, like if the author didn't make any effort, while Mories' orchestrations, especially in his best moments, always feel full and layered. Oh, fun fact: I made my grandfather listen to the title track of "L'arrivée de la terne mort triomphante", and, thanks to the orchestral feel, he genuinely enjoyed it. A third project that was crucial to me were Throbbing Gristle without a doubt: reading about them made me curious to know more about their music and their aesthetic aims. I don't have to say more about TG (because, well, they are T motherfucking G!), but I'll only add the fact that I'm reading Cosey Fanni Tutti's autobiography, and it is really good. Another bonus point would be Atrax Morgue (discovered through your channel. Again, thanks): knowing that there was an Italian doing such things in places I am familiar with because, well, I live there (the Po Valley, with its constant background of countryside and factories, and then all the small and forgotten towns spread through the Plain), was shocking and crucial. I remember this quote about his art: "[...] any self-respecting Italian knows in his heart that we are walking on a pile of corpses all the time, and centuries of blood flow under our feet and in our walls". Creepy
I remember talking to Marco (Atrax Morgue) on MySpace around 2004/2005. We ended up on a compilation together with people like GX Jupitter-Larsen and Stuntcock. He was a good dude.
Huge Noise/PE fan and this is a great list for most folk to enjoy Noise. Would also throw in The Rita for harsh noise wall. But awesome video dude. Love to see Deathpile at the End there. In my top 10 albums of all time
Fun fact: Deathpile is more or less the successor to Jonathan Canady's Industrial Metal-project Dead World (where the half of the songs were not Metal but Dark Ambient and Industrial)
Love to see Pleasure Ground mentioned. I went through a lot of Prurients stuff last year (about 120 releases) and Pleasure Grounds stands out, especially the opening track. Sexual Magic is another one that doesn't get mentioned enough. Really beautiful stuff
Ive listened to a shit load of noise music, I've listened to hundreds of hours of Harsh Noise Wall and shit, uh, yeah.. Ramlehs Hole in the Heart is essential beggining noise stuff. LesRallizes Denudes for more noise rock. But in terms of pure noise, merzbow is good because he is so wild and experimental that even if the shit is baffling its not boring! But Incapicants As Loud As Possible is essential Japanese noise shit, they were pioneers so to speak. The Rita - Lake Depths Lurker. But if i had to recommend one noise album, The Cherry Point - Black Witchery, is one of the best noise albums ever. I like noise because it feels like an aggressive cathartic mind cleanse. It shuts up the mind. Its like a rock cliff avalanche burying all the shit in the mind for a little bit. I can feel the noise dissolving chunks like a foamy acid. I like the abstractness of it, the way it can evocate wind, water or rocks, or industrial landscapes. Oh shit i fucking forgot, wyatt you have to fucking listen to Pedestrian Deposit, early shit is pure harsh noise but later the project became a duo with a woman who joined who makes her own string instruments out scrap metal and junk she finds in landfills or in the street, there's live videos of her performing with pedestrian deposit and dude it actually sounds legit GOOD. At times beautiful. They later mixed this minimalistic classical influence with industrial ambient and the harsh noise. Listen to Dyers Hands. Very careful attention to texture and sound quality, and cinematic flow and arc of the tracks. I think shit like whitehouse and deathpile are too perverted. I used to be big fans but i think their music is like genuinely evil in a corrupt way, like not good for people to be listening to honestly.. But the reason i like merzbow is he almost always eschews negative themes and his noise is just fun. Especially his psychedelic albums like hyrbid noisebloom or space metalizer. Hes a fucking sound wizard. His electronic work is actually deeply impressive and mind blowing, I always say but merzbows psychedelic shit is like the end scene in 2001 space Odyssey where hes flying through the universe at warp speed in the rainbow light tunnel. Merzbow is the greatest noise musician of all time. And i used to never admit that because its so obvious and "normie" but after listening to hundreds and hundreds noise albums and projects i don give a fuck. Merzbow is the best!
Solid breakdown from someone who actually KNOWS noise, so I had to commend you. I released noise for several years as Chav Stabber, amongst other projects, and your comment here is well made.
Dominick of prurient is also part of cold cave. If you’re wanting to talk about accessibility, but still solid noise, I’d suggest Hunting Lodge’s album Will. They actually toured with the minutemen in the early 80’s. Dissecting table is also really great, ultimate psychological description. Meat Beat Manifesto 😅. Jack Dangers is a genius. You could make a whole hour long video alone deep diving on Jack Dangers. Controlled Bleeding’s Kneee and Bones album is arguable with the whole power noise notion being first. No mention of Maurizio Bianchi? You could have also thrown in Premature Ejaculation as a talk of a stepping on point for noise, and just telling newcomers it’s Rozz Williams would be enough to spike curiosity.
@@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusicit also borders on the more accessible/rhythmic side. I would 100% tell someone trying to get into noise to listen to it over some others.
one of my fav noise-adjacent albums recently is Bondage Women by Anna Gardeck! it's hypnotic, rhythmic, not that abrasive, and as such a good introduction to what noise can be on its more subtle, contemplative side^^
Thanks for this video. Very informative. Steve Albini's last name is pronounced al -- bee -- nee, btw. I'm very glad you included the Wolf Eyes record "Burned Mind." Love that one.
Very surreal to hear someone talking about Alberich. Rough Trade records in Shoreditch used to have a second-hand noise section, and I remember picking up Alberich on vinyl, having heard nothing about him. The record was the split 'Borgia', with Lussuria. It was on heavy rotation. My recommendation would by Ramleh, for an introduction to noise, since there's that crossover of genres between noise-rock and power-electronics. I've always found it strange that people who supposedly enjoy the distorted elements of "noise-rock", don't want to lean into distortion for the sake of distortion. For me, that's probably the most accessible way into the genre: for those that approach sound through its texture, and have a sheer disgust for compressed signal gates (God bless you Steve Albini).
You can’t “get into noise”. noise and PE will find you when it’s time. If you are tying to force yourself to listen to Deathpile, you are doing it wrong. Enjoy!
Ash pool is definitely a fantastic black metal band that no one seems to talk about, pretty sure Dominic is also part of departure chandelier and cold cave (live)
I recently went to my first Noise show. It had Butoh Sonics and another up and comer who called himself *Sigh* (Not to be confused for Sigh the Japanese Black Metal band). It was truly eye opening and I've been looking into Noise music ever since.
While I wouldn't necessarily call them "beginner albums," here are a couple records from smaller noise artists that I really enjoy: Herremoral // Slavemoral - Dødsmaskin: Half bludgeoning, rhythmic (and sorta fun?) power noise and half miserable, dense death industrial. Conditional - Sanctuary State: A very atmospheric blend of noise and drone. There's some rhythm to this one, and each track has it's own character to it. The closing one, "Home is Where you Hang Yourself" is particularly harrowing. Full disclosure, I'm a little biased, because I may be making a collab album with this guy. Above//Below - Teeth Engraved With the Names of the Dead: A death industrial with a lot of weight, almost bearing a bit of doom/sludge metal influence. The tracks also feature more progression than your average noise album. (Also, if you want, I make noise music under my projects Against Thee Wickedly and Screaming In Entropy. AtW has a good bit of metal stuff, too, but my passion for making metal is shrinking with time. As a solo-project, noise is a more fitting home)
Another great show but you really have to include anything by Grunt or Bizzarre Uproar . Pedestrian Deposit “Dyers Hands” is an absolute classic plus you’ve got all the sub genres of noise the list is endless 🌅
If y'all wanna get into black noise i highly recommend screech owl by wold, it's one of my favourite albums :) Also merzbow the goaaaat Also also check out going places by yellow swans, a mixture of drone and noise, also one of my favourites
My main musical interests are early 80s post-punk and industrial but i go regularly to noise or pe gigs. Through the years i saw Merzbow, Genocide Organ, Bdn, Wolf Eyes ( times 3 or 4 ), Ramleh, Sutcliffe Jugend ( crazy headliner show at a festival in Berlin, my mates gf was almost enjoying the other projects but started crying and had to walk out of the venue when SJ started) , The New Blockadeers, Prurient, Sixes/Deathroes. There are surely more that i dont remember atm, like local bands - friends of friends or opening acts that were less famous.
OSCOB'S album 'Junkie'. Now, I'm a baby to noise, only discovered it a few months ago when I was trying to look for dark techno on reddit and someone suggested merzbow, didn't delve too much into the genre since I would think its a genre you listen here and there and not often. Recently discovered OSCOB, who I thought did chill vapourwave albums, but then I was hit with a noise album while looking at their discography. Their 'Total self destruction' 30 min track, after listening to it for about 10 mins, made me physically react with screaming. A weird experience. Some noise like merzbow's pulse demon is like white noise and calming in a way, but that OSCOB track made me stressed and annoyed while listening to it.
first getting into noise rock is also a great way to get introduced to the abrasiveness and violence of harsh music. its a good step to take before you take the full plunge into actual noise.
The best sutcliffe jugend album is relentless. Its almost 4:30 hours (incluiding bonus tracks) and has my favorite harsh noise song ever (unleash the fury)
Nice guide man, thank you! Love both the niagara falls and cocaine death as well. History of aids though? Yeah thats pretty much the line for me personally😂
Look at Lucas Abella (Justice Yeldam and the Magic Ribbon Device)... Other names he's gone by (I think Kombi, being the first moniker). Not only his music - the noise equivelent of Coltrane), but his level of violent expermimentaion is beyond the pale. He is often hospitalised as a consequence of his choice of intrumentation being panes of glass with a contact mic and his mouth/body getting up close and personal to make the sounds.
Einleitungszeit, Blue Sabbath Black Cheer & Zbigniew Karkowski are all worth checking out. I also like Atrax Morgue as much of his output has a very personal spin on the genre.
Folks unfamiliar with noise may assume it as something dark and aggressive or even malevoent. One could be forgiven for thinking that based on the aesthetics and words surrounding some of the music and even entire bands. But there's a few different "camps" in Noise music. It's true there's a dark side, but if one dismisses all of the genre based on that impression, they'll miss out on a lot of what it has to offer. Merzbow and many other Noise acts aren't actually dark at all. To best experience them, you just have to let the sound envelop you and open yourself up to the subjective experience-- sort of like a meditation. In a weird way, it's mind expanding and kind of theraputic. Your subconscious reacts to it in a way that's not possible to describe in words. I imagine that primal scream therapy has some of these aspects. You're left with an uncanny sense of peace and relaxtion. It's good for you. Noise music is good for you.
Oddly enough, I've been into extreme metal since the early eighties but it took 'noise' and power electronics to make me appreciate second wave BM. If you want to dig in to some genre benders don't sleep on Conlon Nancarow. You might think it's too easy on the ear to put in the noise history, but it's hard to find anyone that championed irrational time signatures. I know harsh noise is all about throwing out explicable rhythm all together but if you think about it that makes Nancarow important in the early stages of the noise aesthetic. Nurse With Wound has to be mentioned. Should do a whole video on Stapleton and Co.
Iron Sight has been my favorite noise artist for a little bit now. but I do much prefer when noise is mixed in with something like grind or black metal
Sorry about being a pedantic prick, but Steve Albini pronounces his surname AL BEEN EE not Olbanee. :) I genuinely didn't know who you were referring to initially. :)
Honestly, i thought the band Axis of perdition was noise with its almost speaker breaking audio mixing especially in there first album The ichneumon Method now shockingly its one of my favorite black metal albums ever. looking into the noise genre itself its definitely not underground nokia phone production value blackmetal. Its far more challenging and.... UnNerving at times though im not very familiar with it. The only musician i know that i like from the Noise genre I guess is gnaw there tongues but i have no clue if it just noise.
you should check out Worth. they're one of my favorite noise artists. their album Sacred Violence Noise is killer. or maybe Koufar if you're trying to find some good power electronics. Lebanon from Lebanese is my favorite by Koufar.
@@wyattxhimHenry Cow are my favourite band (as my profile picture suggests). They brought progressive rock to the next level, mixing modern classical, avant jazz, free improvisation,... Plus, guitarist Fred Frith has been the bassist in John Zorn's Naked City
@@bertkarlsson1421 Thinking Plague's Warheads goes from playfully wonky to incredibly dark, especially when that E chord drops. ua-cam.com/video/8KU22NGHrJQ/v-deo.html
Some art is meaningless by design, some isn't. Comparing Merzbow to Michaelangelo for example is unlikely to draw a conclusion from many that the works of both are equally meaningless.
@@itsukizy A lot of art is made with a specific meaning in mind. Lots of artists have themes that you're supposed to get from their art. Some art is less subjective, unless you want to pretend that accidentally not understanding something is the same as purposeful subjectivity. Nobody could seriously argue that Type O Negative were all about positivity and the greatness of life, because that would be an absurd interpretation of their music.
yesterday i watched your old video about noise artist on the archive channel. I checked out PRURIENT and it was some of the weirdest things ive heard. Dont get me wrong i love extreme metal and lofi bm but that was too much hahaha
If you love extreme metal, maybe Gnaw Their Tongues could be a good place to start with. It worked with me. (of course: if you already know this project, this message is useless and I'm sorry for the redundancy)
@@enri_mucca Thank you I heard of this project, but I didn't check it out yet. Ill definitely dive in to it. I mainly listen to classic bm and funeral doom. Is there something between NOISE and Funeral Doom? Maybe that combination would be better for my ears.
@@Winternachtx I remember Wyatt talking about Septisemesis by Senthil in his doom metal iceberg. Really harsh blackened funeral (I think it is in the realm of Wormphlegm, a band that I still have to check out). In general, there are some drone doom bands that have a really noisy approach that could work aswell, such as Khanate (Things Viral or s/t are good examples) and Gnaw (a project of Khanate's vocalist Alan Dubin), but I think that the noise genre known as death industrial could work with a doom metal fan, because it usually involves these droning pulsations that are slow and relentless and work as a form of structure against the harsh noises involved. Maybe try these: - Pharmakon, "Abandon". I've seen her live and it was a fantastic concert. - Brighter Death Now, "Necrose Evangelicum". BDN are the pioneers of this style of music, and, while other releases are harsher, this is almost more a dark ambient album. Very desolate sounding (and Mortiis is a feature in one track, if I remember correctly) - Trepaneringsritualen, "Perfection & Permanence". This is death industrial + black metal aesthetics, in vein of the pioneers MZ.412. Ritualistic and feral.
Whitehouse arguably making some of the most fucked up music lyrically, all whilst taking their name from a UK Morality campaigner is honestly amazing. Fuck Peter Sotos tho
Try some Masonna lol. Totally unlistenable. I used to use it to push people out of my house after parties. Also, would love to see you do a Godflesh video!
I got into the Japanese noise stuff via Boredoms, discovering Merzbow, The Gerogerigegege, Hanatarash and early Melt Banana, Still love Melt Banana and Boredoms to this day, but the extreme distorted walls of noise became tiresome, not only that, being a music creator myself, creating sheets of distorted noise is easy, there's zero skill. I could take a kitten sneeze sample and turn it into a Merzbowesque track, I created 2-3 extreme noise tracks around 2005 and instantly became bored by them despite trying to add shifting tonal structures for interest. I still love tuned feedback though, most of my favourite crust, punk and hardcore tracks start with feedback. :)
You’re right, rhythm with noise makes it much easier to digest. I didn’t realize meat beat manifesto was still around, looking forward to that Merzbow collab.
Some big misses here. John Cage's Tape music in the 1930's is a closer predecessor to Throbbing Gristle. And how can you not mention Cold Meat Industry! and KK Null
Hendrix, Floyd, and even Stones all had noise tracks. Its more common than people think, and you definitely missed Lou Reed- Metal Machine Music, when it comes to its origins.
Hail, Sutekh Hexen, Ramleh, Masonna, Torture Cell Unit, Blue Sabbath Black Cheer, and 1000 Pieces all come highly recommended.
I think noise is a common feature in rock music compared to other styles. By nature rock is noisy the distortion, feedback etc . Def modern noise music took those features from rock and combined it with the production techniques of electronic and industrial music.I
Atrax Morgue?
Absolutely man that is old school! @@BodhiKurnigKu
Nick Cave and Warren Ellis came here, and their was a part where they just went full on noise. I'm sitting in the back pounding my fists and most people were just like "ok weird when is this part over". I kind of think serious music fans in general will appreciate noise and its counterpart experimental music. @@jakestatefarm2470
@fabriziogarreta7400 yeah it’s the combination
As someone whos always looking for more extreme music, its safe to say the journey ends at harsh noise.
the journey continues if you make the music yourself
"Harsh Wall Noise" is arguably the end of the journey when it comes to the harsh end of the noise spectrum, e.g. The Rita.
I ran the biggest noise netlabel, STS, for a few years, so I'm well versed in this world.
@MusicFromTheOutside fr? could you give a couple insights? i really only know a few noise bands, like merzbow and some japanese-based noise / powerviolence projects. it's really interesting to me and i like rhythm in noise music. what bands were signed under you?
@My_MoodyBlues There's so many good artists to choose from when it comes to rhythmic noise. We mainly released indie artists, but some like NRYY, Richard Ramirez (specifically his "One On Top of the Other" project, which I also did the artwork for), Filthy Turd, Noise Nazi (who isn't actually a nazi btw), Flat Affect, Hal Hutchinson, and Buddhist on Fire have gone on to be considered important acts.
I ran STS around 2007/2008 or thereabouts, so I've been away from the scene for a while. There's a forum called "Special Interests" that's still a good resource for finding noise music. Also, "Noisewiki" is like a Wikipedia for noise, but it's not very well updated.
Like I said, it's been a while since I was active in that world, but some of my old Chav Stabber material may be up your street. Check out the "At The Abortion Party" video on UA-cam, and also one called "Dual Channel Assault"; my other videos were banned from every site I uploaded to. 😂
I had a more rhythmic noise/industrial project called "Japsi", as well as an HNW project called "The Oceanic" and a more traditional harsh noise project called "Understand David".
I really need to get back to producing noise again. 😂
that just where it starts
Fun fact: Whitehouse have played shows opening for Slayer, Sunn O, and Trans Sibrean Orchestra
That last band surprised me haha
@@ricobonifacio1095 it is true!!
I'd love to know at which show they opened for Trans Siberian Orchestra at, because that's an amazing fact I'd love to know.
Thats crazy, I love TSO and all those bands, and never knew that.
It was in the 2000s, I believe around the time of Aescisitists 2006@@MegaMicah12
A noise music video with G.R by Deathpile on the cover while Wyatt wears a Brainbombs shirt??
I need to eat some carrot cake during this amazing video
Holy shit reddit we fucking made it!
Edit: My dad found my sissy hypno wholesome chonker collection. Should I rip my cock off?
Carrot Cake is S tier
I'm lucky I got to listen to GR before it got taken off of Spotify. What a crazy fucking album.
Man, I love that Pharmakon album playing in the background, specifically the song you're playing "Intent or Instinct"
The band Les Rallizes Denudes are honestly an ideal starting point for noise.
Conventional songs with cool basslines, at least until the guitar solos drown everything out and it becomes a wall of static feedback sound.
i love them so relaxing
My favorite band!
I feel like Ramleh and The Hanatarashi wouldve also been perfect intro bands honestly some of hanatarash songs have this slow transition from noise to power electronics and Ramleh really have a lush for the anti-art
Hnatarash were funny in their early days and were banned by most venues in Japan because they regularly destroyed stages at the end of their concerts.
Funny thing is that i got into Wyattxhim through his Noise music vids, then after that i found out he liked death metal.
Me being an oldhead for this channel really appreciated this video.
Just recently grabbed the vinyl for G.R. Probably one of my favorite noise albums.
I unironically believe that the Beatles would've experimented with noise music if they stayed around longer.
William Bennett (founder of Whitehouse) is a fan of George Harrison and Yoko Ono, so who knows??
well yoko did and she does !!1
Yoko had already made a name for herself in that vague scene in the 60s, so it's likely.
Not to mention Les Rallizes Denudes were pure noise rock by the early 70s.
It's definitely possible The Beatles could've moved into that territory, but I suspect Yoko would have been the conduit for the transition.
In their Get Back documentary they straight up have a couple of noise rock type jam outs! With Yoko shrieking and everything, it's kinda wild
Supposedly they have an 18+ atonal improv song called "Carnival of Light" that never got released
I just started the video, but I'm so happy that Pharmakon is playing in the background. I'm very excited to see the rest of this
Great video! I think another good intro artist for people starting with noise is Yellow Swans, since they mix it with more ambient drone on their albums Going Places and Descension. And for the intermediate noise, The Gerogerigegege is a classic which is more focused around perverse/bizarre humor and has a real punk feel. Nurse With Wound is great too for more surreal soundscape type of noise.
I never thought you'd have that Liquid Swords album on display. A man of culture indeed
Frozen Niagara Falls was an awesome album. Thank you for recommending it!
This is one of your best reviews, not necessarily because of the topic, but because of your delivery. Great critique, excellent vocabulary, interesting phrases. “Slither of rhythm.” Awesome
Steve Albini along with producing Nirvana and Whitehouse also produced many other albums, as well as being the mind behind noise rock bands Big Black and Shellac
you're always opening my eyes to new tunes, thanks dude!
Also the sheer amount of music noise artists put out can be daunting if someone wants to keep up. Seems like its not that difficult to come up with stuff to put up in the genre when every artist in it seems to have like 100 releases or something 😂
very true
probably has to do with the fact that a huge majority of noise albums are done "in the moment" having an improvisation mindset.
@@wyattxhim Yeah, just look at the different (bootleg-)versions from Throbbing Gristle's "Discipline". And on each version the song sounds different.
love hearing wyatt talk about whitehouse
Thank you Wyatt for making this video and giving some recommendations, I'll definitely give this stuff a try
I still have to listen to "Bestial Burden" by Pharmakon. I've seen her live in Milan last may (my first industrial/noise concert) and it was mesmerising.
The two projects that got me into this world were, without a doubt, Lingua Ignota and Gnaw Their Tongues, and I still think they offer some of the best material in their field.
Discovering the former was crucial because she made me think: "Wait, so there is a person out there who loves classical music like me and wants to experiment with harsh sounds at the same time!? I must be more like her!". She is probably the only artst I had to stop listening to for some months because she is that emotionally enthralling and destructive.
I have to be honest, Wyatt: though I had discovered Mories through some reviews in an Italian magazine, your videos regarding him were crucial. Your "Explaining GTT" was so important to me and without you I would not have listened to All the Dread with such a curiosity. Anyway, I think that Mories' strenghts are the eclecticism (a common trope in a lot of gateway bands: they mix new sounds with something familiar that can get you accustomed to the novelty) and the "full" sound that he is able to create: noise music can sometimes feel quite cheap, like if the author didn't make any effort, while Mories' orchestrations, especially in his best moments, always feel full and layered. Oh, fun fact: I made my grandfather listen to the title track of "L'arrivée de la terne mort triomphante", and, thanks to the orchestral feel, he genuinely enjoyed it.
A third project that was crucial to me were Throbbing Gristle without a doubt: reading about them made me curious to know more about their music and their aesthetic aims. I don't have to say more about TG (because, well, they are T motherfucking G!), but I'll only add the fact that I'm reading Cosey Fanni Tutti's autobiography, and it is really good.
Another bonus point would be Atrax Morgue (discovered through your channel. Again, thanks): knowing that there was an Italian doing such things in places I am familiar with because, well, I live there (the Po Valley, with its constant background of countryside and factories, and then all the small and forgotten towns spread through the Plain), was shocking and crucial. I remember this quote about his art: "[...] any self-respecting Italian knows in his heart that we are walking on a pile of corpses all the time, and centuries of blood flow under our feet and in our walls". Creepy
I remember talking to Marco (Atrax Morgue) on MySpace around 2004/2005. We ended up on a compilation together with people like GX Jupitter-Larsen and Stuntcock. He was a good dude.
I noticed that Liquid Swords is in the background. That’s one of my all time favorite hip-hop albums.
Yoo, Wyatt, as someone who is new to power electronics I really appreciate this one.
Still better than Sleep Token
Almost everything is
sure but who asked
Huge Noise/PE fan and this is a great list for most folk to enjoy Noise. Would also throw in The Rita for harsh noise wall. But awesome video dude. Love to see Deathpile at the End there. In my top 10 albums of all time
Fun fact: Deathpile is more or less the successor to Jonathan Canady's Industrial Metal-project Dead World (where the half of the songs were not Metal but Dark Ambient and Industrial)
Check out my project from a few years ago, The Oceanic. I used to release harsh noise as Chav Stabber many, many years ago.
Love to see Pleasure Ground mentioned. I went through a lot of Prurients stuff last year (about 120 releases) and Pleasure Grounds stands out, especially the opening track. Sexual Magic is another one that doesn't get mentioned enough. Really beautiful stuff
Ive listened to a shit load of noise music, I've listened to hundreds of hours of Harsh Noise Wall and shit, uh, yeah..
Ramlehs Hole in the Heart is essential beggining noise stuff. LesRallizes Denudes for more noise rock. But in terms of pure noise, merzbow is good because he is so wild and experimental that even if the shit is baffling its not boring! But Incapicants As Loud As Possible is essential Japanese noise shit, they were pioneers so to speak. The Rita - Lake Depths Lurker.
But if i had to recommend one noise album, The Cherry Point - Black Witchery, is one of the best noise albums ever.
I like noise because it feels like an aggressive cathartic mind cleanse. It shuts up the mind. Its like a rock cliff avalanche burying all the shit in the mind for a little bit. I can feel the noise dissolving chunks like a foamy acid. I like the abstractness of it, the way it can evocate wind, water or rocks, or industrial landscapes. Oh shit i fucking forgot, wyatt you have to fucking listen to Pedestrian Deposit, early shit is pure harsh noise but later the project became a duo with a woman who joined who makes her own string instruments out scrap metal and junk she finds in landfills or in the street, there's live videos of her performing with pedestrian deposit and dude it actually sounds legit GOOD. At times beautiful. They later mixed this minimalistic classical influence with industrial ambient and the harsh noise. Listen to Dyers Hands. Very careful attention to texture and sound quality, and cinematic flow and arc of the tracks.
I think shit like whitehouse and deathpile are too perverted. I used to be big fans but i think their music is like genuinely evil in a corrupt way, like not good for people to be listening to honestly..
But the reason i like merzbow is he almost always eschews negative themes and his noise is just fun. Especially his psychedelic albums like hyrbid noisebloom or space metalizer. Hes a fucking sound wizard. His electronic work is actually deeply impressive and mind blowing, I always say but merzbows psychedelic shit is like the end scene in 2001 space Odyssey where hes flying through the universe at warp speed in the rainbow light tunnel. Merzbow is the greatest noise musician of all time. And i used to never admit that because its so obvious and "normie" but after listening to hundreds and hundreds noise albums and projects i don give a fuck. Merzbow is the best!
Thank you. I went thru every band you recommended. So glad you shared
Solid breakdown from someone who actually KNOWS noise, so I had to commend you.
I released noise for several years as Chav Stabber, amongst other projects, and your comment here is well made.
Dominick of prurient is also part of cold cave. If you’re wanting to talk about accessibility, but still solid noise, I’d suggest Hunting Lodge’s album Will. They actually toured with the minutemen in the early 80’s. Dissecting table is also really great, ultimate psychological description. Meat Beat Manifesto 😅. Jack Dangers is a genius. You could make a whole hour long video alone deep diving on Jack Dangers. Controlled Bleeding’s Kneee and Bones album is arguable with the whole power noise notion being first. No mention of Maurizio Bianchi? You could have also thrown in Premature Ejaculation as a talk of a stepping on point for noise, and just telling newcomers it’s Rozz Williams would be enough to spike curiosity.
Will is a great record, hell yeah!
@@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusicit also borders on the more accessible/rhythmic side. I would 100% tell someone trying to get into noise to listen to it over some others.
As for Merzbow, check out the "Merzzow" album from 2002. It is a laptop era masterpiece
one of my fav noise-adjacent albums recently is Bondage Women by Anna Gardeck! it's hypnotic, rhythmic, not that abrasive, and as such a good introduction to what noise can be on its more subtle, contemplative side^^
Great album! Good when you and your significant other want to spice the things up
Thanks for this video. Very informative. Steve Albini's last name is pronounced al -- bee -- nee, btw. I'm very glad you included the Wolf Eyes record "Burned Mind." Love that one.
Very surreal to hear someone talking about Alberich. Rough Trade records in Shoreditch used to have a second-hand noise section, and I remember picking up Alberich on vinyl, having heard nothing about him.
The record was the split 'Borgia', with Lussuria. It was on heavy rotation.
My recommendation would by Ramleh, for an introduction to noise, since there's that crossover of genres between noise-rock and power-electronics.
I've always found it strange that people who supposedly enjoy the distorted elements of "noise-rock", don't want to lean into distortion for the sake of distortion. For me, that's probably the most accessible way into the genre: for those that approach sound through its texture, and have a sheer disgust for compressed signal gates (God bless you Steve Albini).
You can’t “get into noise”. noise and PE will find you when it’s time. If you are tying to force yourself to listen to Deathpile, you are doing it wrong. Enjoy!
great video! sutcliffe's material within the last few years is their best work imo, highly recommend the album Relentless
Ash pool is definitely a fantastic black metal band that no one seems to talk about, pretty sure Dominic is also part of departure chandelier and cold cave (live)
Definitely
I recently went to my first Noise show. It had Butoh Sonics and another up and comer who called himself *Sigh* (Not to be confused for Sigh the Japanese Black Metal band). It was truly eye opening and I've been looking into Noise music ever since.
Love the Obey tee dawg. Best swedish band ever.
Fun fact: This video was published exactly on Luigi Russolo's 77th death anniversary.
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Sutcliffe Jugend's later stuff is so much better than their earlier work. Highly recommended Relentless and the Deluge. Also, Prurient is pretty cool!
I really like their album "Offal," Sutcliffe's music just beats you into the ground, in the best way
@@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic Just like early Whitehouse.
While I wouldn't necessarily call them "beginner albums," here are a couple records from smaller noise artists that I really enjoy:
Herremoral // Slavemoral - Dødsmaskin: Half bludgeoning, rhythmic (and sorta fun?) power noise and half miserable, dense death industrial.
Conditional - Sanctuary State: A very atmospheric blend of noise and drone. There's some rhythm to this one, and each track has it's own character to it. The closing one, "Home is Where you Hang Yourself" is particularly harrowing. Full disclosure, I'm a little biased, because I may be making a collab album with this guy.
Above//Below - Teeth Engraved With the Names of the Dead: A death industrial with a lot of weight, almost bearing a bit of doom/sludge metal influence. The tracks also feature more progression than your average noise album.
(Also, if you want, I make noise music under my projects Against Thee Wickedly and Screaming In Entropy. AtW has a good bit of metal stuff, too, but my passion for making metal is shrinking with time. As a solo-project, noise is a more fitting home)
Wyattxhim never misses best channel on youtube
Another great show but you really have to include anything by Grunt or Bizzarre Uproar . Pedestrian Deposit “Dyers Hands” is an absolute classic plus you’ve got all the sub genres of noise the list is endless 🌅
Grunt - Project Eden is the song that propelled me headfirst into noise. One of the best noise / power electronics songs of all time.
Good choice 🌅
If y'all wanna get into black noise i highly recommend screech owl by wold, it's one of my favourite albums :)
Also merzbow the goaaaat
Also also check out going places by yellow swans, a mixture of drone and noise, also one of my favourites
@fabriziogarreta7400 such cool sht check it out if you haven't yet!!
@fabriziogarreta7400 you should definitely check it out if you haven't yet, it's so cool
Check La torture des tenebres, pretty good black noise project
@@ignaciogrigera4100 love their stuff too!!
My main musical interests are early 80s post-punk and industrial but i go regularly to noise or pe gigs. Through the years i saw Merzbow, Genocide Organ, Bdn, Wolf Eyes ( times 3 or 4 ), Ramleh, Sutcliffe Jugend ( crazy headliner show at a festival in Berlin, my mates gf was almost enjoying the other projects but started crying and had to walk out of the venue when SJ started) , The New Blockadeers, Prurient, Sixes/Deathroes.
There are surely more that i dont remember atm, like local bands - friends of friends or opening acts that were less famous.
OSCOB'S album 'Junkie'. Now, I'm a baby to noise, only discovered it a few months ago when I was trying to look for dark techno on reddit and someone suggested merzbow, didn't delve too much into the genre since I would think its a genre you listen here and there and not often. Recently discovered OSCOB, who I thought did chill vapourwave albums, but then I was hit with a noise album while looking at their discography. Their 'Total self destruction' 30 min track, after listening to it for about 10 mins, made me physically react with screaming. A weird experience. Some noise like merzbow's pulse demon is like white noise and calming in a way, but that OSCOB track made me stressed and annoyed while listening to it.
Thanks for thi, mate. Always look forward to your uploads
first getting into noise rock is also a great way to get introduced to the abrasiveness and violence of harsh music. its a good step to take before you take the full plunge into actual noise.
Hey, speaking of Meat Beat and Merzbow, they have a collaboration coming out April 26, vinyl of course.
Can you read?
Fushitsusha is a great noise/avant/psych rock band!
The best sutcliffe jugend album is relentless. Its almost 4:30 hours (incluiding bonus tracks) and has my favorite harsh noise song ever (unleash the fury)
I always put throbbing gristle in this genre
i love noise so much bro, nice vid👊
Marcus schmickler - palace of marvels
The hecker - sun pandamonium
Not as violent as most noise/powerelectronic acts but even more headsplitting
Nice guide man, thank you! Love both the niagara falls and cocaine death as well. History of aids though? Yeah thats pretty much the line for me personally😂
Look at Lucas Abella (Justice Yeldam and the Magic Ribbon Device)... Other names he's gone by (I think Kombi, being the first moniker). Not only his music - the noise equivelent of Coltrane), but his level of violent expermimentaion is beyond the pale. He is often hospitalised as a consequence of his choice of intrumentation being panes of glass with a contact mic and his mouth/body getting up close and personal to make the sounds.
Einleitungszeit, Blue Sabbath Black Cheer & Zbigniew Karkowski are all worth checking out. I also like Atrax Morgue as much of his output has a very personal spin on the genre.
Nice BrainBombs shirt. If you haven’t already check out Rectal Hygienics, they’re a lot like BrainBombs but heavier and a more suffocating sound.
Puce Mary is also a good start, not too harsh and has structure.
Folks unfamiliar with noise may assume it as something dark and aggressive or even malevoent. One could be forgiven for thinking that based on the aesthetics and words surrounding some of the music and even entire bands.
But there's a few different "camps" in Noise music. It's true there's a dark side, but if one dismisses all of the genre based on that impression, they'll miss out on a lot of what it has to offer.
Merzbow and many other Noise acts aren't actually dark at all. To best experience them, you just have to let the sound envelop you and open yourself up to the subjective experience-- sort of like a meditation. In a weird way, it's mind expanding and kind of theraputic. Your subconscious reacts to it in a way that's not possible to describe in words. I imagine that primal scream therapy has some of these aspects. You're left with an uncanny sense of peace and relaxtion. It's good for you. Noise music is good for you.
9:26 what harsh noise song is the background ???? 😮 👋 👉 👂
Oddly enough, I've been into extreme metal since the early eighties but it took 'noise' and power electronics to make me appreciate second wave BM. If you want to dig in to some genre benders don't sleep on Conlon Nancarow. You might think it's too easy on the ear to put in the noise history, but it's hard to find anyone that championed irrational time signatures. I know harsh noise is all about throwing out explicable rhythm all together but if you think about it that makes Nancarow important in the early stages of the noise aesthetic. Nurse With Wound has to be mentioned. Should do a whole video on Stapleton and Co.
Iron Sight has been my favorite noise artist for a little bit now. but I do much prefer when noise is mixed in with something like grind or black metal
deathpile changed my life as a teenager
pigdaddy is one of my favorite sutcluffe jugend albums. it has some of my favorite vocals from them.
never forget Massona/acideater!!!
Nice Brainbombs shirt fits the topic well
Sorry about being a pedantic prick, but Steve Albini pronounces his surname AL BEEN EE
not Olbanee. :)
I genuinely didn't know who you were referring to initially. :)
Honestly, i thought the band Axis of perdition was noise with its almost speaker breaking audio mixing especially in there first album The ichneumon Method now shockingly its one of my favorite black metal albums ever. looking into the noise genre itself its definitely not underground nokia phone production value blackmetal. Its far more challenging and.... UnNerving at times though im not very familiar with it.
The only musician i know that i like from the Noise genre I guess is gnaw there tongues but i have no clue if it just noise.
Yeah man that axis of perdition album is amazing, realy grew on me over the years
In fairness, they have a ton of influence from drone, industrial, and dark ambient, which aren't super far off. I love The Axis of Perdition, too
@@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic And lyrically they were more or less a Silent Hill-tribute-band on the first albums.
As a Silent Hill-fan I approve.
@stevekramerf242 exactly, I've also gotten into Silent Hill recently, and I love how they tie it into their sound
@@stevekramerf242 they went for more love craftian, end of the world from technology kind of lyrics in there first album and god damn there good.
Hard reccomend bloodyminded- trophy as a first exposure to PE. For me it's the ramones quickfire thing, but with PE
I unironically love going back to G.R and wpie.
Still waiting for a Boyd Rice/MERZBOW collab
I feel like they are way apart politically tbh
autechre did a really bad ass cover of ecobondage on a merzbow tribute cd like 25 years ago
Oh my god i love your brainbombs shirt where did you get it ?
you should check out Worth. they're one of my favorite noise artists. their album Sacred Violence Noise is killer. or maybe Koufar if you're trying to find some good power electronics. Lebanon from Lebanese is my favorite by Koufar.
so weird, I'm not even a big rock music listener but I guessed Steve Albini right before you said the name
Cool Brainbombs shirt
Are you into RIO like Univers Zero, Henry Cow, Samla Mammas Manna?
We can only dream...
all names im unfamiliar with so ill try to change that soon
@@wyattxhimHenry Cow are my favourite band (as my profile picture suggests). They brought progressive rock to the next level, mixing modern classical, avant jazz, free improvisation,...
Plus, guitarist Fred Frith has been the bassist in John Zorn's Naked City
@@wyattxhim Heresie by Univers Zero is one of the darkest, creepiest, heaviest albums I've ever heard!
@@bertkarlsson1421 Thinking Plague's Warheads goes from playfully wonky to incredibly dark, especially when that E chord drops.
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The first and last form of sound and music.
G.R is amazing, love Genocide Organ too.
Kind of off track, but Liquid Swords is arguably the greatest hip hop album ever made.
Great t shirt, do a Brainbombs video, ace band!
Sutcliffe Jugend pronunciation: Satklif Yugend.
You can't expect an American having the brain capacity to pronounce non-English words correctly due to their inherent genetic makeup
Awesome brainbombs shirt bro 👅
Check out Discopathology by Noise/Girl its psychedelic disco noise! Its so good.
i love noise because its inherently meaningless, but so is all art. i just like how chaotic and violent it sounds
I don't believe all art is inherently meaningless at all. Because much art was created out of meaning, so it's very conception was borne of meaning
Some art is meaningless by design, some isn't.
Comparing Merzbow to Michaelangelo for example is unlikely to draw a conclusion from many that the works of both are equally meaningless.
@@THICCTHICCTHICCart only carries the meaning we give to it. it’s the most subjective thing there is
@@itsukizy A lot of art is made with a specific meaning in mind. Lots of artists have themes that you're supposed to get from their art. Some art is less subjective, unless you want to pretend that accidentally not understanding something is the same as purposeful subjectivity.
Nobody could seriously argue that Type O Negative were all about positivity and the greatness of life, because that would be an absurd interpretation of their music.
yesterday i watched your old video about noise artist on the archive channel. I checked out PRURIENT and it was some of the weirdest things ive heard. Dont get me wrong i love extreme metal and lofi bm but that was too much hahaha
If you love extreme metal, maybe Gnaw Their Tongues could be a good place to start with. It worked with me.
(of course: if you already know this project, this message is useless and I'm sorry for the redundancy)
@@enri_mucca Thank you I heard of this project, but I didn't check it out yet. Ill definitely dive in to it. I mainly listen to classic bm and funeral doom. Is there something between NOISE and Funeral Doom? Maybe that combination would be better for my ears.
@@Winternachtx I remember Wyatt talking about Septisemesis by Senthil in his doom metal iceberg. Really harsh blackened funeral (I think it is in the realm of Wormphlegm, a band that I still have to check out). In general, there are some drone doom bands that have a really noisy approach that could work aswell, such as Khanate (Things Viral or s/t are good examples) and Gnaw (a project of Khanate's vocalist Alan Dubin), but I think that the noise genre known as death industrial could work with a doom metal fan, because it usually involves these droning pulsations that are slow and relentless and work as a form of structure against the harsh noises involved. Maybe try these:
- Pharmakon, "Abandon". I've seen her live and it was a fantastic concert.
- Brighter Death Now, "Necrose Evangelicum". BDN are the pioneers of this style of music, and, while other releases are harsher, this is almost more a dark ambient album. Very desolate sounding (and Mortiis is a feature in one track, if I remember correctly)
- Trepaneringsritualen, "Perfection & Permanence". This is death industrial + black metal aesthetics, in vein of the pioneers MZ.412. Ritualistic and feral.
Great video.
I listen a lot NATO-uniformen while drawing/painting
Thats work Will be a classic in the future
dat damn tshirt, doe 😎
When pornography is no longer enough. Dark indeed lol
Whitehouse arguably making some of the most fucked up music lyrically, all whilst taking their name from a UK Morality campaigner is honestly amazing.
Fuck Peter Sotos tho
UK morality campaigner and the adult magazine that was named after her.
Try some Masonna lol. Totally unlistenable. I used to use it to push people out of my house after parties.
Also, would love to see you do a Godflesh video!
I think Ejaculation Generator is one of the best noise albums ever and I've listened to it a bunch of times. 😅
I prefer PE than noise. I feel more cohesive and focused
The two songs that got me into power electronics were Klaus Barbie and God Sent Us, both by Genocide Organ.
Awesome choices
I got into the Japanese noise stuff via Boredoms, discovering Merzbow, The Gerogerigegege, Hanatarash and early Melt Banana, Still love Melt Banana and Boredoms to this day, but the extreme distorted walls of noise became tiresome, not only that, being a music creator myself, creating sheets of distorted noise is easy, there's zero skill.
I could take a kitten sneeze sample and turn it into a Merzbowesque track, I created 2-3 extreme noise tracks around 2005 and instantly became bored by them despite trying to add shifting tonal structures for interest.
I still love tuned feedback though, most of my favourite crust, punk and hardcore tracks start with feedback. :)
Japanese noise punk is the best combination of music genres and my favorite application of noise. Check out Confuse - Fuckin' Lovers and Dust Noise.
You’re right, rhythm with noise makes it much easier to digest. I didn’t realize meat beat manifesto was still around, looking forward to that Merzbow collab.
Rhythm and noise ventures quite closely towards being ultra heavy dance music at times
@@THICCTHICCTHICC Yeah, some of it is more or less Industrial Techno.
Don't forget The Geros
But where's Boyd Rice
Yeaaaaa
I got into noise with gilla band
albert?
Some big misses here. John Cage's Tape music in the 1930's is a closer predecessor to Throbbing Gristle. And how can you not mention Cold Meat Industry! and KK Null
Well I mean this video is called “getting into noise “ not “ let’s name every noise artist “
@@wyattxhim Yeah, and Cold Meat Industry is more Dark Ambient-focused.