jessica & trish | I should have saved you

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  • @ahsokarules2369
    @ahsokarules2369 Рік тому +8

    To be honest, I like the way they handled this. On my first watch, I thought Trish was written terribly in season 2, but when I rewatched the whole show, I realized it was written with a believability. Trish has always been abused by her mom, producers, drugs, and has always needed Jessica to save her. She takes self defense classes to not need Jessica as her protector and it still fails and she falls victim to Kilgrave. The only time she was able to stand up for herself and save Jessica for once was with Simpson's pills. So, she has it in her head that powers are the only way to fend for herself. She's tired of being the victim and wants to save people, but her drive and obsession takes her down a dark path. It's a story of becoming the thing you want to stop. And it's a good story idea to give to a character that was loved. I don't think it was handled all that great in season 2, but I've seen a new perspective on it. I think season 3 really drove home what Jessica and Trish mean to each other. Throughout the whole show I was felt everything Jessica felt. I was still mad at what Trish did to her mom up until she finally admitted that she was wrong and started to slowly enjoy her again the way Jessica started to regain that sister bond with her. And then I felt remorse for both of them when Dorathoy died, feeling the way Jessica felt regarding her passing. Then when it came down to taking Trish out, I was completely in Jess's mindscape of feeling sorry it had to come to this, but knowing it had to be done. When they saw each other before Trish was taken away, I think it was Trish acknowledging to Jessica that she did the right thing. I saw a small nod and smirk, as if Trish was saying not feel bad. Ironically, I'm happy the show left me feeling depressed. I meant that I grew to care for Trish again and was sad to see this outcome. Had there been a season 4, it would've been an interesting story of whether Trish was in it at all or if part of it was her seeking redemption for her crimes and how their relationship evolved. All in all, I'm pretty satisfied with how the writers wanted to tell a story of how a good person can unknowingly turn bad.

  • @sal220
    @sal220 5 років тому +81

    They did so much dirty to them..i am gonna pretend S3 never happened. They deserve so much better!! 💔😭

  • @TH-gb2lq
    @TH-gb2lq 6 місяців тому +3

    I keep coming back to this video. I need Marvel to bring Jessica back and Trish with her.

  • @extremeviki92
    @extremeviki92 5 років тому +69

    Such a beautiful video! I hated the show's ending. What made this tv show different than the rest was the fact that is based on their friendship, always choosing each other over everyone else. And the writers ruined that for us, trying to make Trish the villain when in fact she was just avenging the death of her mother and hurting bad people.

    • @evermoreisamasterpiece
      @evermoreisamasterpiece 5 років тому +11

      Wrong thing done for good reasons is still the wrong thing.

    • @matiascasanova139
      @matiascasanova139 4 роки тому +4

      @@evermoreisamasterpiece people always say that because they don't wanna try to make the world better, it's because of most of the people that the few ones that are trying to make the world better can't do it.

    • @TH-gb2lq
      @TH-gb2lq 2 роки тому +4

      I didn’t think they ruined it. Their relationship was complicated and real and needed to go through what it did. I just wish that hadn’t been the end. I hope one day they bring Jessica back and Trish along with her.

  • @thewanderer3110
    @thewanderer3110 5 років тому +35

    "Maybe if you pretend not to care, the World won't notice it gave you something to love and won't try to take it away" - Jessica Jones

  • @danyluv
    @danyluv 5 років тому +31

    I loved them and I'll miss them and what they would have been....

  • @mello_thaiss
    @mello_thaiss 5 років тому +14

    Nice video. Really... you got my feelings about this heartbreaking final episode.
    Well... I think the ending was really consistent with all we have seen since the first season. Trish became out of her mind, unstopable, and Jess did actualy save her..... from herself. Her greed for power were obvious since the begining so this wrap for her it's not exactly a surprise. But I think writers should have made an emotional ending for their relationship. Trish would never try to kill Jess, that was out of her picture. You can't stop loving someone so abruptly enough to be able to kill that person. Maybe if she could just drop that knife and say sorry to Jess, make the deal that Hogarth offered to her and go to a common prison. The raft? That was too much in my opinion. The helicopter scene. We saw Jess suffering for her, for what she had to do, but Trish was just there staring her as an ice stone. Really? After all the love they profered to each other and that it's was what they had left for them? Not even a remorse or sadness expression by Trish to Jess on their last meet. That's it... I finished the serie with a "missing something" feeling.

  • @Teansy
    @Teansy 5 років тому +27

    Great work!! Love your edits so much!

    • @Redrush11
      @Redrush11 5 років тому +2

      I don't think she was the most unlikely character in the show. I found her annoying in season 1 and 2. Thought she was brilliant in season 3. I also don't think Jessica and Trish are now enemies. Trish certainly not happy with Jessica but nothing permanent I don't think

    • @in_vino_veritas7938
      @in_vino_veritas7938 2 роки тому +1

      I loved when they had each other's back too, but there's a history there and Trish didn't come out unscathed. How she was raised, fame, etc. Deep down Trish was always jealous of JJ's powers and when she got the opportunity to be powerful her emotions went into overdrive.
      I think it would be brilliant if Jessica Jones gets more seasons and Trish gets redeemed

  • @trnrnic
    @trnrnic 5 років тому +20

    Thanks, I hurt now. I mean I was hurting before but, ugh, dammit. This was so good, and I'm mad at Netflix, but this is awesome. Thanks for sharing with us.

  • @scalexadua4193
    @scalexadua4193 5 років тому +4

    THEY DESERVED BETTER!! This is so beautiful I wanna cry

  • @TH-gb2lq
    @TH-gb2lq 2 роки тому +2

    I miss them. I need Disney to bring them back.

  • @ismael1235100
    @ismael1235100 5 років тому +11

    Absolutely magnificent and beautiful, will the writers stop hurting them please

  • @enitymare2739
    @enitymare2739 4 роки тому

    this is soooo gorgeous! every time I review all the seasons, I feel so bad about the ending(((

  • @ReyLotsoFrancis
    @ReyLotsoFrancis Рік тому +2

    her sister 💔

  • @TFwarrior
    @TFwarrior 5 років тому +3

    I love them so much. It isn't my favorite show but I'm grateful for Trish and Jes, I can't say how. And I forgive them everything, especially Trish for now. Thank you for this vid as lovely memory.

  • @monique3984
    @monique3984 4 роки тому

    i'm crying i love their bond so much i'm so sad trish ended the way she did in season 3 :(
    i love this edit btw!!

  • @OnePlainCollabs
    @OnePlainCollabs 5 років тому +7

    Loved their friendship so much the past seasons but Jess definitely did the right thing in the finale . Even though I am heartbroken - they deserved better ❤️ love this! great editing and song choice - it 's perfect for them!

  • @feathertails
    @feathertails Рік тому

    Their story hurts so much but makes so much sense. Maybe it hurts so much because it makes sense.
    Annoyingly long essay on a 4 year old video is below but TLDR:
    Trish's character arc may seem sudden, but it has been building since season 1. This was always within her. And yet- she was never truly "evil" or sociopathic as much as she was unstoppable. Trish always loved Jessica, truly loved Jessica. The only time she ever harms her is when she feels she is getting in the way of her "duty". Jessica always prioritized Trish over her heroism, but Trish was addicted to "heroism" and she couldn't let anything get in the way of the greater good. Ironically, Jessica had to learn from Trish (and Luke Cage) to not let personal relationships stand in the way of said "greater good' which is why she sends Trish to the raft. To quote GOT "duty is the death of love".
    long version
    :
    Trish and Jess have both suffered abuse, been made to feel powerless, at the hands of forces beyond their control. But their response to their traumas always conflicted. Trish grew up made to feel special and important by Dorothy. That her role in life was to change lives. In Dorothy's mind, this was just through her influence as a celebrity, to create jobs for others and uplift audiences (and really that came from a self-absorbed/ arrogant way of thinking). But Trish took it differently, Trish has always since season 1 (and really the show seems to imply since she got sober) wanted to change the world in a significant way. She's an addict, but her addiction is making a difference, feeling like she has a semblance of control in her life, power, and influence. She has an uncanny drive. She doesn't just want to make the world a better place, she NEEDS to. She can't live with herself and let injustice prevail. It's the reason she played such an important role in Jessica's life, especially in season 1. Because while Jessica feels she has to make a change, she doesn't necessarily want to. And she doesn't have the confidence to know what the correct action to take is.
    In season 1 Trish drives Jessica to stop Kilgrave because she has the power to do so. Trish is always frustrated when she can't do enough to help Jessica. So she dedicates herself to being as strong and self-reliant as she physically can. At first, this is enough, but then as she digs into IGH (and feels the thrill of power from the red pill) she realizes she needs to do more.
    In season 2, after seeing Jessica kill Kilgrave and "solve the problem" she attempts to convince Jessica to do the same thing to stop her mom. After getting a taste of power and becoming addicted to having it, she relentlessly tries to gain her own power. In her mind, this would stop her from being helpless and also "exonerate" Jessica from having to do the "hero" work she is reluctant to do. Believing Jessica will be unable to do so herself, and also wanting to "save" Jessica from having to do it herself, Trish kills Jessica's mother. Trish never does things like this with malicious intent, she doesn't want to hurt anyone. But she is also too stubborn and driven to just be on the sidelines. Jessica does what she does because she believes having her gifts means she has to take on the burden, and doing good and saving others makes her feel good. Trish feels that because she has such a clear moral compass, she has to become stronger for the world, she needs to not waste her 'talent'.
    In season 3 it becomes more prevalent that Trish doesn't only want to be powerful and help people, she wants to be recognized for doing so. She grew up in the limelight, she likes not only the influence but the attention that her platform gives her. But it's not enough for her to be loved for what she sees as "frivolous". She needs to be a hero who is beloved. She needs to be impactful, and recognized for it. It is her downfall at first. She literally calls the papers to bring attention to herself, had she remained completely anonymous and out of the press she might not have made it to the point that takes her down her violent path. But she is never satisfied with doing just enough. Trish has always seen things in absolutes, in black and white. And ever since seeing Kilgrave die, she has come to the conclusion that death is the ultimate solution to rid the world of human nightmares. When she loses her mother (her biggest source of validation and the biggest thing tying her to the realm of "normal" people) her feelings become exacerbated. She HAS to kill these people because no one else will, and it's the best way to end suffering. She is similar to the Punisher in this way, but where Frank doesn't care for thank yous or limelight Trish craves these things. And Trish has a more inflated sense of self-importance. And unlike the Punisher Trish shows no signs of actually enjoying hurting or killing the people she does, she sees it as a neccesary evil, ends justify the means. (kind of like how sallinger thinks killing is his neccesary evil for his art).
    Trish's character arc may seem sudden, but it has been building since season 1. This was always within her. And yet- she was never truly "evil" or sociopathic as much as she was unstoppable. Trish always loved Jessica, truly loved Jessica. The only time she ever harms her is when she feels she is getting in the way of the "mission". Jessica always prioritized Trish over her heroism, but Trish was addicted to "heroism" and she couldn't let anything get in the way of the greater good. Jessica had to learn from Trish to not let personal realtionships stand in the way of said "greater good' which is why she sends Trish to the raft. To quote GOT "duty is the death of love".

  • @in_vino_veritas7938
    @in_vino_veritas7938 Рік тому

    I'd really like to see what happens next. Need more of this show

  • @clarki32
    @clarki32 5 років тому +10

    they destroyed the character!!!! so unfair

  • @ruciarutkowska2077
    @ruciarutkowska2077 5 років тому +1

    I just can't get over it how season 3 ended. Heartbreaking . I really hope that they will decide to produce season 4. Trish can be a ' good guy' . She understands what she's done , she just need to fix it - redemption of her mistakes. So sad ending.

  • @thewanderer3110
    @thewanderer3110 5 років тому +7

    I vigilantly defended Trish/Hellcat in season 2 as I really related to the immense struggle to never feel helpless again and her obsession with becoming a hero, one that became a dangerous obsession at that, far more than just a fancy with being a hero but an obsession where she appointed herself judge, jury and executioner. I was still in love with Trish even with her ideals falling into that grey area even for someone like me who loves anti heroe's like Red hood, Punisher, Hit girl ect ect right up until the last few episodes where I just felt they could have done better with her but I don't really blame the writers or the cast ect ect as sadly due to whatever was going on between Netflix and disney there was no time for a Trish redemption story and no time for Jessica and Luke to get married and no time for more Defenders ect ect but I wish..I just wish they'd given us Trish/Hellcat fans more hope for the character, have her actually escape to Thailand and then have Jess read a paper near the end that says something about a cat-like vigilante saving lives and hailed as a hero over there.
    Also Hell yes! A new JJ vid from Badassmorse!!!!!!!!!
    No offense to other vidders out there but yet again your vids are waaaay above the others, this is perfect, the others people have done for Trish's vigilante crusade and her fractured relationship with Jessica have just been ok, yours is perfect!! Such a great mix of timing , dialogue and calculated narrative.
    p.s.: They likely had intentions to have a redemption arc for Trish/Hellcat and had that intention since the start (S1) but didn't have the time to tell the story of her downfall as well as her uprising and redemption sadly! Or writers just secretly hate awesome characters like Black canary and Hell cat for some reason.

    • @badassmorse
      @badassmorse  5 років тому +1

      asfjdfjsjshagua you're too kind thank you so much this made my day 😍

    • @thewanderer3110
      @thewanderer3110 5 років тому

      Your welcome, keep it up! Definitve question though, who was the "Bad guy" (As Trish put it) , Sallinger/Foolkiller or Trish/Hellcat? If you had to pick, who was the antagonist this season, Trish even said "I'm the bad guy" yet at least with Trish some people could argue that somewhere along the way her intentions were noble but she was on a crazy train she was potentially never getting off!

    • @badassmorse
      @badassmorse  5 років тому +2

      @@thewanderer3110 Sallinger of course, this is why I'm really disappointed with the ending, she's not the bad guy she's an addicted

  • @hailhorrorx
    @hailhorrorx 5 років тому +9

    im heartbroken

  • @TH-gb2lq
    @TH-gb2lq 3 роки тому

    This makes me so emotional

  • @thewanderer3110
    @thewanderer3110 5 років тому +4

    Could you possibly put together a Trishica vid to "Avril Lavigne: Don't tell me"please, I think the lyrics really match their arc here!

  • @JessKM
    @JessKM 5 років тому +3

    This is just so beautiful!! I’m going to pretend seasons 1 and 2 didn’t happen. So tragic :(

    • @badassmorse
      @badassmorse  5 років тому +5

      wait did you mean season 2 and 3?? 😂 Season 1 was perfect!

  • @dontdoitfortheplot
    @dontdoitfortheplot 3 роки тому

    i really hope this series will have season 4 :( they're my OTP and one of the reason i love the show.

  • @nehattahsin3990
    @nehattahsin3990 5 років тому +12

    Should they have become a couple at the end? YES! A shame they didn't but i do think that if the show didn't get cancelled we would've gotten a redemption arc for Trish. But they've broken my heart too much now. I will miss them

    • @badassmorse
      @badassmorse  5 років тому +3

      I don't know about that... They knew it was canceled when they start working on it and melissa definitely told that she got to make the ending she wanted.... They planned to betray us from the very beginning

    • @thewanderer3110
      @thewanderer3110 5 років тому +1

      I know but at least they didn't kill her off like they did with Laurel in Arrow! it was a risky move as they must have known that it would leave a lot of people unhappy with a lot left unresolved but I do believe if there was not the cancellation we would have seen a Bucky/Steve redemption style arc for Hellcat and JJ.

    • @Redrush11
      @Redrush11 5 років тому +1

      Nehat tahsin no no no no no. Definitely not Trish and Jessica a couple. That's a terrible idea

    • @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
      @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 3 роки тому +4

      yeah well if they were friends not basically sisters then yeah that'd be great. But they're sisters. It's as weird as Barry and Iris but at least with them we didn't get many childhood flashbacks and they were only living together because of Thawne, so it wasn't the original timeline. Maybe I remember the show wrong but aren't they like sisters, didn't they live together?

  • @VibrantlyDark
    @VibrantlyDark 3 роки тому +1

    I'll never get over how Trish betrayed Jess over and over .. their relationship was beautiful and Trish let her ego get in front of the love ..

    • @TheRoseDeathWitch
      @TheRoseDeathWitch 3 роки тому +1

      What Seriously? Trish never betrayed Jess

    • @VibrantlyDark
      @VibrantlyDark 3 роки тому +3

      @@TheRoseDeathWitch There's a list of betrayals that I don't feel like typing, but the main one is going behind Jessica's back to get the experiment to make her super because she couldn't handle being average, even already famous
      She knew how Jess felt all the years about everything and about this doctor and Trish still went for her own self interests

    • @WesleyWyndam-Pryce
      @WesleyWyndam-Pryce 4 місяці тому +2

      The writers betrayed Trish. I still love the show, but I so wish they had gone another route.

    • @Yellow_05-28
      @Yellow_05-28 2 місяці тому

      hypocrisy and betrayal were precisely on Jessica’s part. Throughout the entire series, Jessica aggressively beats people, does what she wants, but when Trish punished the criminal, she turned out to be the worst villain?

  • @musictomyears2976
    @musictomyears2976 7 місяців тому

    ok so i never watched jessica jones but now i
    am

  • @Evstaic
    @Evstaic 5 років тому +2

    So I was watching your old Shaw & Root videos when I stumbled upon your Trish & Jessica ones...
    I’m not sure which relationship hurts more. Root dying alone or Trish becoming the villain in Jessica’s story. Now I’m just really sad.
    That being said you edited every video together perfectly in an annoyingly heartbreaking way!
    Edited: I just found your Clarke & Lexa videos, and are you trying to destroy me?!

    • @badassmorse
      @badassmorse  5 років тому +1

      Ahah I see we both have a thing for doomed relationships
      Thank you for watching them

  • @brucesnow7125
    @brucesnow7125 5 років тому +13

    Trish was always jealous of Jessica. Honestly, in the first season and Defenders, she came off as creepy, to be honest. Her constant "Jessica is amazing", when conversation wasn't even about Jessica, was just weird. It was clear in season 2, that it was all about hiding her insecurity. Every abused person would never want to feel powerless again, but she did feel powerless near someone like Jess. She was beaten, used as a puppet, and pimped out to people far older than her by her own mother. Add to that drug abuse, and you have a perfect example of broken individual. I'm glad they went here, no one with that kind of past can be as perfect as she seemed in season 1.

    • @thewanderer3110
      @thewanderer3110 5 років тому +3

      Yerp, with cases like that, its not about beating your demons but about learning to live with them with your head held high and putting one foot in front of the other. She saw the worst parts of the World over and over, felt helpless and then as Hellcat got her powers, I mean for those who do hate Trish or at least the writing for this arc,, just ask yourselves what you would do if you'd been abused, kicked when you were down, and made to feel like shit on someone's shoe and everytime you tried to rebuild..someone broke you again..and then you got powers and the possibilities then rushed through your head, imagine that rush and what you would honestly do.

  • @matiascasanova139
    @matiascasanova139 4 роки тому +1

    I know it'll sounds bad and there Will be people wo will insult me, but when i saw the entire show i realised that almost every problem of the show was jessica's fault so i started to hate her (Jessica, not krysten, she is a honey ❤️)

  • @sh-zw3il
    @sh-zw3il 3 роки тому

    😭😭😭😭

  • @brooklynmcneill1673
    @brooklynmcneill1673 4 роки тому

    There sisters?

  • @maryhoss
    @maryhoss 5 років тому +3

    Never watched this show before. Why they didnt kiss each other? :/ Are they just friends? So why she loves her so much? :/. Shes more than a firend for her i think :/

    • @thewanderer3110
      @thewanderer3110 5 років тому +3

      Very close friends, so much so even that they refer to each other as sisters, its kind of like one of those rare once in a lifetime bonds that just doesn't need a label really.

  • @Statusq9
    @Statusq9 5 років тому +3

    Trish always seemed selfish, arrogant and power hungry brat to me, from the beginning. Not really suprised how she turned out to be.

  • @cagekillers
    @cagekillers 3 роки тому

    I though s2 ending was bad. Damn

  • @Ishamiller2005
    @Ishamiller2005 Рік тому

    Does anyone else get like supergirl Danvers sister vibes

  • @martavioustisby4942
    @martavioustisby4942 4 роки тому

    Jessica and Trish sister

  • @monique3984
    @monique3984 4 роки тому

    I AM IN PAINNNNNN GOD THEY MEAN EVERYTHING TO ME IM CRYINGGGGGG

  • @thaina9856
    @thaina9856 3 роки тому

    Jessica is heterosexual or bisexual? She had relationships with men on the show, i'm in doubt because of that...