When Sheogorath Tricked Tamriel's Greatest Mage, the story of Eyevea - The Elder Scrolls Lore

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  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
  • Today we're delving into the Shalidor/Sheogorath conflict that plays in the background of the Mages Guild questline in TESO!
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  • @ImperialKnowledge
    @ImperialKnowledge  8 місяців тому +59

    The title had to be "one of Tamriel's greatest mages" but that didnt fit in the word limit. Sorry Divayth Fyr Fans, I respect you but UA-cam doesn't allow me to

    • @hillarydana3057
      @hillarydana3057 8 місяців тому +3

      Please do another serana vid and include the serana dialogue addon Its lore friendly!

    • @2010AZ
      @2010AZ 8 місяців тому +11

      ​@@hillarydana3057lore friendly doesn't mean canon.

  • @badluck5647
    @badluck5647 8 місяців тому +36

    I hope to see Shalidor returns to ESO. Nordic pride, arrogance, and honor combined with the power of Vanus Galerion makes him an interesting character.

    • @farhansaber9330
      @farhansaber9330 8 місяців тому +5

      Tbh I didn't really like Shalidor's appearance in ESO. you know that saying about meeting your heroes? I felt ESO depicted Vanus Galerion and Shalidor as characters who were better off being remembered as legends. The amount of respect I had for Vanus Galerion in lore was great before I met him in ESO for him to be an all too arrogant and prideful elf. And Shalidor having the same voice as every other generic nord and showing such weakness felt odd to me too. This is the same man who took on an army of red guards warriors alone. The same mage who created all of Labrynthian. All his legendary feats whittled away now because I can see how lame he is in ESO in hindsight for some reason 😅. Don't get me wrong I enjoy playing ESO, I just did not like the depiction of those two personally.

    • @badluck5647
      @badluck5647 8 місяців тому +2

      @@farhansaber9330 I enjoy the flawed characters. If anything, ESO characters are boring and one-dimensional.
      Just look at the High Isles chapter. Every alliance leader was morally flawless, while the big bad wanted global domination through apocalyptic mass murder. Instead, the alliance leaders should be selfish or prejudicial, while the big bad should have had a point about how the alliance leaders' flaws are causing harm.

    • @berilsevvalbekret772
      @berilsevvalbekret772 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@farhansaber9330ironically I LOVED it. Its like Alaxender the great. An amazing general and ztrategist but also a horny party animal with not so great judge of character.

    • @berilsevvalbekret772
      @berilsevvalbekret772 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@badluck5647I would argue they look flawless IN THEIR CAMPAIGNS. We saw how horrific acts they can turn a blind eye to when playing for the otherside

    • @badluck5647
      @badluck5647 7 місяців тому +1

      @@berilsevvalbekret772 The horrifying things the Alliance Leaders' subordinates do is played off as they are unaware of it. It would be more interesting if they knowingly turned a blind eye because they think some evils are necessary or they find it politically convenient to confront powerful members of the alliances.
      Also, even the Alliance villains are cartoonishly evil aka shallow and boring.

  • @ximthedespot4673
    @ximthedespot4673 8 місяців тому +18

    I'm surprised that Sheogorath would do something like this. This seems more like a Clavicus Vile move.

    • @channel_lurker
      @channel_lurker 8 місяців тому +4

      honestly trading an all powerfull book for just some mage that read them seems like a sheogorath thing too do. he tends too make bargains in which he stands little too nothing too gain but the confusion of his victims.
      or maybe im wrong and he wants you too have the book, slowly driving you mad and into his realm aswell.
      fun fact: everything he says in these games makes perfect sense. he just mentions it in a funny way

    • @BP-dn9nv
      @BP-dn9nv 24 дні тому

      Sheogorath loves to troll people. He once got into a competition with Hircine where they both sent out an animal champion. Hircine sent out a werewolf and Sheogorath countered with a tiny bird. The bird flew around the werewolf, making it claw itself to death. Hircine normally doesn't mind getting beaten but this one embarrassed him greatly.

  • @axellion4573
    @axellion4573 8 місяців тому +4

    Just finished the Mages guild questline ESO last night and holy shit. Uncle Sheo is terrifying when he spaks in a low tone. I literally felt fear and the way he dropped those hints and how Valaste acted... chills. Literal chills

  • @Matt-md5yt
    @Matt-md5yt 8 місяців тому +8

    glad you covered this one. that questline is really neat

  • @moonknight1331
    @moonknight1331 8 місяців тому +8

    This video came out at the perfect time as I am playing through ESO's Mages Guild questline in this exact moment. I guess you aren't supposed to grant something to coincidence if it can be explained by fate😂

    • @ImperialKnowledge
      @ImperialKnowledge  8 місяців тому +4

      Spoilers for that questline in here! So turn back if you want to play fully unspoiled

    • @moonknight1331
      @moonknight1331 8 місяців тому +1

      @@ImperialKnowledge I have put the video on my "watch later" playlist👍

    • @RestlessRebel
      @RestlessRebel 8 місяців тому

      ​@@moonknight1331And also avoid the comments section for spoilers

    • @cahntwhoat7351
      @cahntwhoat7351 8 місяців тому

      What a cummunity 🤓🤓

  • @petshop7346
    @petshop7346 8 місяців тому +13

    What's the somber music track that starts playing from 5:40? I absolutely love the tune from watching your videos.

    • @iKevski
      @iKevski 8 місяців тому

      Far Horizons from the Skyrim soundtrack if my ears don’t deceive me

    • @juanc4627
      @juanc4627 8 місяців тому +2

      @@iKevski it's similar to far horizons but not quite the same

  • @maiqtheliar789
    @maiqtheliar789 8 місяців тому +6

    Shalidor should have known to never bet against the God of Madness. Even other gods should only bet against him cautiously. Your average mortal doesn't stand much of a chance.

    • @channel_lurker
      @channel_lurker 8 місяців тому

      the stinky god lost his favorate action figure lmao

  • @yokai6812
    @yokai6812 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for this, was wondering on why the structure was High Elf and not Nord on the island.

  • @UnswimmingFishYT
    @UnswimmingFishYT 8 місяців тому +2

    I think with Hammerfell all but officially announced as the location of TES VI, having a DLC or something set on Eyevea would be a great thing to see. Especially considering so many were dissatisfied with the magic in Skyrim and Eyevea being an entire island meant for mages.
    A much more varied magic and weapon system with more types of weapons and more specializations of magic would be a huge improvement in the next game. Since Howard mentioned once he wants it to be replayable for something like a decade unmodded, a much more expansive magic system would probably be necessary to enable more character types.

    • @Ronam0451
      @Ronam0451 8 місяців тому

      I thought it was high rock?

    • @UnswimmingFishYT
      @UnswimmingFishYT 8 місяців тому

      @@Ronam0451 Very unlikely. The cinematic thing we got cleared showed a location in Hammerfell, as all the geography lines up, and the terrain just looks exactly like it should.
      The crater looks like a place accidentally made by Azra Nightcaller.
      There was also a post on Twitter from TES officially. It said something like "transcribe the past and map the future", and had a candle emoji as a hint. The image showed a candle set on a Skyrim map, in the empty space to the west exactly where Hamemrfell is.
      If the actual hints aren't enough, Skyrim's writing very clearly was meant to set the Thalmor as a major problem going forwards, with clues at them planning another war, and them generally just being villains across Skyrim's quests.
      The most important point is that we know Hammerfell was the target of a large portion of the Dominion's forces and their invasion wasn't very successful, leaving a huge potential for further conflict there, and making it the ideal province to further explore what they might be planning.
      If you want to get really crazy, there's also the tower theory which is partially canon so far, and indicates they want High Rock, but might need Hammerfell to move an army closer to the Adamantine Tower. Considering that theory would lead to an apocalyptic event and mainline games tend to have those as a main story, the Tower of the Dirreni is almost certainly planned for some use, and is in High Rock, but every other clue says Hammerfell, including all the official hints from 3, 5, and 12 years ago.
      There is some potential the BGS's heavily increased size is meant to enable building both places in the game for a bigger game with more replayability and such, and I'd personally love seeing both, but it's a possibility without as much suggesting it. If the Adamantine Tower is part of the TES VI story, it would need to be both places, but we could just as easily see the expected Hammerfell for TES VI, then become old before seeing TES VII in High Rock.

  • @dinobanan3211
    @dinobanan3211 8 місяців тому +3

    To be honest I was hoping more information existed about what happened to the island in later eras and how exactly Shalidor lost against Sheogorath.

    • @ImperialKnowledge
      @ImperialKnowledge  8 місяців тому +3

      Me too

    • @channel_lurker
      @channel_lurker 8 місяців тому

      @@ImperialKnowledge probebly became a small fishing village or something, its arcane energies dripping into the water, causing a lovecraft questline

  • @XenobiaWinterWolfMoon
    @XenobiaWinterWolfMoon 8 місяців тому +6

    Mages very smart but not an ounce of common sense. Shalidor is the how you honor the sixth house and the tribe unmourned?

  • @ByrnEtch
    @ByrnEtch 8 місяців тому

    Oooo... now this is new for me!

  • @JanosBanics
    @JanosBanics 3 місяці тому

    Walk in the glory of our lord

  • @Bus_Driver_Jay
    @Bus_Driver_Jay 7 місяців тому

    I bet this mage wasn’t also leader of the Dark Brotherhood, Sheogoraph, Head of the Fighters Guild, and Hero of Kvatch at the same time.

  • @christopherjensen1864
    @christopherjensen1864 4 місяці тому +1

    you are so right i did get free skill points

  • @Ussonan-Foderation2016
    @Ussonan-Foderation2016 8 місяців тому +1

    Based as always

  • @derskalde4973
    @derskalde4973 8 місяців тому

    Unrelated, but does anyone know, if flame atronachs can have canonically different colours than the usual fire colour, other than the blue of cold flame atronachs?
    Like green, for example?
    Cause I couldn't find a definitive answer. I plan on painting the Minis from the adventure game miniatures Upgrade Box, and thought of giving them different colours to better differentiate, and if there were canonical colours, those would take preference.

    • @ImperialKnowledge
      @ImperialKnowledge  8 місяців тому

      I remember seeing a green one.... somewhere... but I dont dare to say whether or not that was official art or fanart. I dont know unfortunately!

  • @cap_n_munch3139
    @cap_n_munch3139 8 місяців тому

    Please do one about legendary books in TES?!
    You've already done videos about grass, trees, and booze. Books have FAR more interesting lore.
    The ohgma infinium, the fingers of the Mountain, etc

    • @ImperialKnowledge
      @ImperialKnowledge  8 місяців тому

      Added it to my list after your original comment dont worry

  • @nick_plays22
    @nick_plays22 8 місяців тому

    If you like please re upload old content with your new mic id love to watch

  • @channel_lurker
    @channel_lurker 8 місяців тому

    The god of madness always seemed too me like a jester whos only punchline is murder. easiest skillpoints of my life though.

  • @toytacambery9427
    @toytacambery9427 8 місяців тому

    A video mentioning or remotely involving Winterhold? I know there's gonna be those people (who think they Socrates) in the comments so here's your reminder:
    I've yet to see an in-game source refer to Winterhold as a "city" and, in fact, multiple NPCs refer to it as the "town of Winterhold." Wow, it can be a smaller village while also being the capital of a frankly desolate hold. Who would've thought, right? Cognitive dissonance is fun, though.

    • @ImperialKnowledge
      @ImperialKnowledge  8 місяців тому

      Its rumored ESO’s next year chapter may be winterhold so im holding off for now. Bc ZOS has all its lore vetted by BGS we can then find out whether or not winterhold was meant to be a city or not since it was definitely not destroyed in the second era

    • @Celadonis-the-Lore-Seeker
      @Celadonis-the-Lore-Seeker 8 місяців тому +1

      In Arena, there is a store called "The city-state Tool Store" in Winterhold. It would then be logical to assume that Winterhold is a city-state.

    • @channel_lurker
      @channel_lurker 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Celadonis-the-Lore-Seeker lore seeker indeed