I was on the QA team for Tomb Raider: Underworld, so I got to see the original ending in the game before it was cut. I think it was actually some of the other QA testers who suggested changing it, because they felt leaving Amanda to die was inconsistent with Lara's character. It was fairly late in development, too; I was surprised the other devs actually listened to the suggestion!
i mean i can’t say i’d blame laura croft myself, that woman clearly wanted to bash laura’s head in with a rock, truly it’s just her protecting herself, i mean laura did leave her peacefully the first time after they worked together to get out i assume and then boom, lady comes at her with a rock, i’d shoot her too, and is there really a way they could prove i could trust a person after they try to kill me, nah mate, so yeah, just like laura id personally leave her to die too. personally i feel laura croft was justified there.
A Bard's Tale. Fight the boss... or, join her and go have implied kinky fun times with the demon lady while the rest of the world burns. Decisions, decisions...
Would have said Farcry 4, but not acting against the villain and just going home, not really the same. Does killing the villain, only to pick up his mask and let him take over count? Then Fable lost chapters.
I thought the Mass Effect one was gonna be about the ending that was planned that went into how the Reapers were actually there to harvest the buildup of Element Zero the galaxy's advanced civilizations created in order to prevent the universe basically imploding in on itself
@@MSte21 100%. Significantly better, because it actually makes sense. The whole "Reapers want to save organic life by exterminating organic life" shit is.. meh. Really, really meh. If they just wanted to prevent civilizations from creating genocidal synthetic life, they couldn't have maybe tried, oh I don't know.. talking to them? Maybe a public serious threat that if they find out AI beyond a certain threshold is produced, THEN they'll kill everybody, while gesturing to all the far more advanced civilizations they've destroyed before so that way people know not to fuck around?
I wonder if the Kingdom of the Flies mission in Metal Gear would have came before or after you find out the truth about Venom Snake Eli has a sweet line in that half finished cutscene “I’m not me, I’m just a copy of you!” Which would be nice foreshadowing if we don’t know the truth But if we did already know it would be a great way of showing the difference between snake and Eli by their reaction such a revelation
15:35 It should be illegal to have the intro to Symphony of the Night in a video if it doesn't reach the moment where Dracula throws his wine glass to the floor. I have "What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets!" blue balls now.
There was A LOT more cut out of the Mass Effect 3 ending. Originally, most of the game was going to follow a different path that would lead to disabling the source of the Reapers' power and unraveling their origin, mostly involving the dark matter plot thread that was introduced during Tali's quest-line in ME2. However, halfway through production, everything they had done so far was leaked and they had to rework a lot of the progress they had made. To make matter worse, they were still forced to meet the deadline of early 2012 and had VERY limited time in which to complete this reworking of the game, which ultimately led to BioWare having to cut short their work on the ending. This debacle was not only the reason they had to then invest so much into the extended cut to make up for what they weren't allowed to do to begin with but also resulted in the Leviathan DLC, because they had to find a new way of exploring the Reapers' back-story that couldn't be incorporated into the main game. A really upsetting reason for a lot of really upsetting backlash. :(
Let me guess... the devs wanted to keep working on the original plan but higher ups forced them to change it.. I hope whoever leaked it regretted their decision but I doubt it
It is that whole George RR Martin quote about "if you already set up that the butler did it". Just because people have figured out the ending doesn't mean you should change it, because you've ready built up to that ending and it would make the ending not work as well with the plot you've already developed
@@firstpersonwinner7404 exactly. I never got that “damn, someone figured out the ending so I need to change everything” attitude in games, shows, books, media in general really. Just stick to your version, or are you really that afraid that people won’t buy the story once the ending’s been leaked to them?
"Darn, I was kinda hoping the Last Of Us entry was going to be about that one gag take where everyone was sing-- ah, you're always one step ahead of me, Oxbox."
I still remember the day i found out dhampirs are actually an old folklore thing and not something invented by videogames or Hollywood. Granted, dhampirs were probably invented to explain why a widow could have a child over nine months after her husband died - without calling her out for having extramarital sex. Back in the day, that kind of thing mattered, and usually they probably just called them unpleasant things, unless of course the widow was someone like the mayor's daughter or the likes, at which point the village priest would probably go "Ah, uh, yes, she...had the baby with her husband! (Yeah, that's the ticket, yeah!) Who is now...a vampire! Which is bad. Very bad. So *she won't do it again.*" (side-eye look at the widow who looks suitably ashamed while stifling giggles) "So, uh, the child is a...dhampir. Yes. Which is a thing. Totally. Now I'll go put a stake in her husband's heart so he won't rise again, because everyone knows that works. And all you guys who wanted me to throw her out of the village can help me rebury him."
For you, the worst day of your life was when you lost your home, family, friends and village. For me it was merely a Tuesday. -M Bison. Your favorite memories of your childhood were defined by what I made, for you it was the best time of your life. For me it was merely a Tuesday. -Kojima.
@Bleh I think Death Stranding was partially a thumbing his nose at Konami. Look what I was able to do and it still brought in money. I bought it, but it was mostly for the epilogue lol
@The Gaming Meta if anyone were to do this though it would be kojima. I think we'll get an mgs2 where we'll look back and see what a great game this is
Mass Effect 3 had an entirely different plot about dark matter/dark energy being produced by using mass effect based FTL killing stars. Using the mass relays minimizes the impact but the reapers exist to make sure Milky Way species don't overuse it and effectively rip the galaxy apart. Thus the murdering spacefareing civilizations. Lot more interesting than "AI bad!"
Don't know if to call them bad. Technically speaking, they are fulfilling the task their creators gave them, that of preserving life at all cost from the synthetic lifeforms they create and tend to go rogue. It's just the solution they ended up concluding to fulfill their purpose was one the creators didn't see it coming
More interesting, but to be fair, our universe is already being ripped apart by dark matter in a sense, so that would seem like a pretty fruitless motivation in context.
Dark souls also has a deleted ending which is quite interesting: Originally Oscar, Knight of Astora was probably supposed to be saved by you or something like that and then you would meet him along your journey and then according to the ending you "choose" he would decide that you did the wrong thing and he will try to stop you for he is desperate play a part in the prophecy that will decide the fate of the undead
I am more intrigued by the "cut" ending to Mass Effect trilogy where the actual in-universe "mass effect" phenomenon would have factored into the plot and been a part of the solution.
Yes, finally my boy Raziel getting some limelight! I would add that a lot of things cut from Soul Reaver (and also Soul Reaver 2) ended up in Defiance (even Raziel killing Kain, although he got better), making that game pretty much an "alternate ending" sequel altogether. ...Although "sequel" may not be the best word to use here as Soul Reaver is actually set in the farthest future of the whole series with the other titles taking place all over the timeline.
I think it meant in terms of art asserts. compared to finished MGSV art it's kinda like paper dolls on a stage and doesn't even have all the environment.
I don’t know how many times I’ve watched the unfinished chapter content for MGSV. Every time I watch it it just amazes me that they couldn’t bother to finish it. They could however be bothered to give us a garbage game that we didn’t ask for using the exact same engine.
Didn't the original Mass Effect 1 and 2 writer say the original ending would of had something to do with dark energy mentioned in Mass Effect 2's Tali recruitment mission
I seem to remember the idea was that dark energy was somehow destroying the universe at a rate too slow to ever be recognised my organic life, and the reapers were at attempt to imortalise organic races in the hope of collecting enough immortal being with different ideologies that they could solve the problem
Yes. A significantly more interesting conundrum, IMO, than what ended up being the final conflict (which ends up making the Reapers to be complete freaking idiots).
That was quite entertaining. I especially appreciated how deftly you managed the several endings for which there was limited, incomplete, or even no data that could be inserted into your video. Well done!
Wasn't there an alternate ending to Shadow of the Tomb Raider involving a letter from Natalya or something? Removed in a day one patch, but a few people who played with the unpatched version saw it anyway.
Yes there was. Internet legend has it that only a single player saw it because of crappy Internet connection so he didn't download the patch and then wasn't believed until much later when dataminers found it
I find the lack of a demand for a Legacy of Kain series remake in the comments upsetting. Seriously, just keep the original audio files (because no one can top Tony Jay's performance), and have the original games as a completion bonus, and I (if not everyone) would be so happy.
Good news. Apparently bluepoint are working on a soul reaver remake for ps5 with "modern gameplay sensibilities" so I assume that means some sort of leveling system probably based on souls consumed (but probably not from slaugh) and rehauled combat probably with soulsborne similarities since they worked on demons souls and the concept of having to find portals when you discorporiate
@@incredibleflameboy I... I don't know how I feel about that. I was imagining a remake akin to the Medievil one. And if anything I'd imagine Soul Reaver was more Darksiders 2 than Demon/Dark Souls. Also, wouldn't it make more sense to remake Blood Omen first?
14:00 correction. There is footage of the cut content. Before facing Kane, there is a snaking corridor which shows alternate timelines and it shows cut scenes without audio. Raziel is seen in one of these striking Arial with the Reaver and it made the reaver white and “pure” . He does this in the third game but it was originally meant to be in the first game.
@@insaincaldo Isnt worth it, the both epiloges a basicly the same, the furniture has different color and they removed a easter egg from Tomb Raider 1, because the new Lara has nothing to do with the original Lara, its just not the same Universe. The unpached funiture is more wooden, give the cinematic a darker look, the pached version is white color and gives there cinematic a nice, brighter and more hopeful look. Personally, i like the pached version more.
Nobody mentions the Life is Strange leaked ending where Max goes back and stops Nathan but gets shot, and goes to the hospital while both Arcadia Bay and Chloe live.
She's also the blink and you'll miss it waitress that cap saves in the first avengers film. I think she has a small speaking role at the end of the film thanking him for saving her on the news reports
What about the Fallout: New Vegas ending where Mr. House strikes a deal with the NCR where he gives up the Mojave Wasteland except for The Strip in exchange for becoming an NCR citizen?
id be preordering it so fast mostly bc the controls back then ruined me duo to WASD and space to jump was not the established standard back in the day apparently xD
Good news. Apparently bluepoint are working on a soul reaver remake for ps5 with "modern gameplay sensibilities" so I assume that means some sort of leveling system probably based on souls consumed (but probably not from slaugh) and rehauled combat probably with soulsborne similarities since they worked on demons souls and the concept of having to find portals when you discorporiate
To be fair to Neil Druckmann and Naughty Dog, that unfilmed epilogue is really just the prologue of The Last of Us Part Two, so anyone who's played part two or even just seen a playthrough of it has seen it.
@@marhawkman303 maybe. I figure they wrote the first game and were pitching ideas for a follow-up throughout, and someone came up with that scene that didn't really work as an epilogue in the game so they performed it at the One Night Live as a test run and....
Love the livestreams. Super engaging on their own and if push comes to shove the witty banter is a great way to fall asleep. Thanks to the oxbox crew, you're excellent.
With it being my favorite series for more than just nostalgic reasons, seeing anyone else continuing to mention Legacy of Kain makes me SERIOUSLY happy! 🖤🦇
It's my favourite. The reboot Lara never became the badass Tomb Raider despite devs alluding to a defining moment. Plus, Keeley Hawes's VA can't be beaten by Camila. The old Lara didn't have an exceptional personality, but it sure is better than the wooden spoon we have now.
@@thegreatpineapple4425 I personally see the Survivor Lara as the same one from the Tomb Raider Trilogy, just in an alternate version of it were she had to go through hell MULTIPLE times before going there literally twice (as Xibalba and Helheim are the Mayan and Norse hells xD). Mind you that does create some continuity problems with TR1/Anniversary but I see it more as her repressing the memories of the last three games xD
@@pockylovingranger Well, also, in the original TR, Lara alludes to having been around the world and done stuff most people never even dreamed of right? She doesn't really say WHAT....
Legacy of kain games were my all time favorite growing up. The voice talent and epic story elements put these games in a league of their own. Especially soul reaver. Been waiting for a sequel to soul reaver for decades.
As a long time LoK fan, I had never heard anything about this ending before today. I always felt there was stuff left out, wandering the game you can find all kinds of things with no explanation. I'll never forget the feeling of seeing that cliffhanger ending, and waiting two years for the continuation.
yeah that's the big problem with environmental story telling... things get left up to interpretation... but worst of all... sometimes you put in things that tell the other story you thought you removed from the game :p
@@marhawkman303 I like to see them as spurring the imagination on "what-ifs," playing off of how time travel created numerous paradoxes throughout the series.
I liked the Mass Effect ending they planned from 1 and 2. The one where the dark energy field expanding the universe was collapsing and the Reapers were making organic races into Reapers in order to stop it. The choice was supposed to be, defeat the reapers and figure that problem out later, let the reapers take most of humanity to make the one reaper they needed next in exchange for leaving everyone else alone, let the reapers take most of humanity and take control of that reaper, and I think there was a fourth one but I honestly can't remember.
Always breaks my heart we never got Dark Prophecy. Would've helped resolve the question about Vorador being mysteriously back from the dead in Blood Omen 2.
I think most video game protagonists could be described as the person who kills a ton of (whatever) in order to (insert reason here). So having amazing hair is a vampiric power. And Jane has amazing hair. So...
I love mass effect and I've never heard about a reaperfied TIM being an actual endgame boss fight, it sounds interesting, maybe they will include it in the remaster...please.
Bioware planned it, but dropped it because it went against T.I.M.'s personality. That creature was too brutish, he was a thinker, planner, and the conflict we got was more inline with that. I think that having ways to fail the conversation to Shepard's death (and maybe have victory a little more dependent on actions taken in game) would have improved it, but otherwise the ending, as a whole, was excellent (with expansion dlc) and better than anything else planned.
I was about to make a joke that Mass Effect 3 should be on this list. Surprised but also not at all surprised that it is. It's no Indoctrination Theory, but it's something.
Regarding Mass Effect 3: Bit of a side story, though in the same vain of gaming easter eggs - In ME3, if you choose for whatever reason to not help Jack and her students at the Grissom Academy, she'll get indoctrinated by the Reapers and you'll have a chance of running into her as a Phantom (crouching katana-wielding enemy) in the final mission. She even angrily screams "SHEPARD" while trying to kill you, which is completely justified if you chose to let her fall like some kind of soulless monster.
As a die hard Legacy Of Kain fan, I sure am glad they didn't end it like THAT. Though I'm still peeved they never concluded the story. I stopped gaming 14 years ago, and I have sworn black and blue that the only game that will ever bring me back from the gaming wilderness is a new Legacy Of Kain game.
Anyone else want to actually experience that Mass Effect 3 final boss fight? Just me? oh well. Side note Knights of the old republic 2 has lots of end game content cut out in the original release. Some of it has since been recovered and is available as a patch.
What I love about the legacy of Kain ending is they literally ret-conned it in the opening cinematic of the VERY next game. In the PS1/Dreamcast version, Kain gets his butt kicked and limps through the time portal. In the opening cinematic of Soul Reaver 2, Raziel gets completely wiped across the floor and Kain walks through the time portal more than slightly taking the piss out of him.
What do you mean? Starchild? Picking colours? All I can remember is Shepard paying respect to Anderson and retiring to Rannoch with Tali. Gotta help the Geth with the renovations!
As far as I'm concerned my Mass Effect ended with Shepard waking up next to his boyfriend, Kadien, after a house killer party and having a late breakfast with all their friends before heading out to play endless matches at the Armex Arena. Good times.
@@cyberpersephone Aww... That's so sweet. *EXCEPT YOU LET KAIDAN LIVE!!!* On a serious note, my renegade broshep could've romanced him, but Tali is such a sweet alien cinnamon roll. I might try Kaidan when I inevitably play the trilogy again.
@@thegreatpineapple4425 Tali was my strong second choice for romance, in fact, I think I have a ME2 playthrough where I did romance Tali since Kadien was being such a scrub in that game and she's awesome.
@@cyberpersephone Tali romance is special cus of the compromised immune system of their species. She goes to great lengths to make sure she could be with Shepard. It could be fatal for her. That's how much Shep means to her. At the end of ME3 when Shep asks her to go back and build herself a home, she says she already has a home. Needless to say, I was bawling my eyes out.
I was gonna say, if Legacy of Kain wasn't mentioned...! I'm obsessed with that series, so I at least have heard about a number of lost possibilities we had with LoK. My heart STILL hurts that we never got Dark Prophecy, though... 😩
I wonder if they may find some way to implement that ME3 original ending in the Mass Effect Legendary Edition? It sounds fun, and by fixing the ending, they could hype people up even more for the next Mass Effect.
That made me think, how about 7 times player characters just watched because cutscene when they could've prevented something? One example is in Labyrinth of Refrain, where party just watches female explorer get brutally eaten by a troll that's in the same room and doesn't bother attacking it until it's done.
I don't think Lara leaving Amanda would have hurt her character at that point. It was a cocky walk away ending, and Amanda was literaly still trying to kill Lara. In the words of women the whole world over, Self defence is not also abuse.
Seeing as they have the voice lines already it would be cool in the future if they ever remaster MGS5 that they'd finish the final mission and add it in. Probably won't happen knowing Konami, but it would be pretty neat Also, I thought Mass Effect 3 had crashed the first time I finished it. I reloaded my last save and played to the ending again just to realize that, no, the game didn't crash at the end and cut out 30 minutes of the game, but just sort of ends suddenly. I was a bit shook
About siding with the final boss, on Breath of Fire 4, you can side with Fou-lu (aka final boss), defeat your former party and purge the world. Simple as that.
at the end of assasin's creed 3, the main character Connor was supposed to give a speech that made him realise that what he did wasn't going to be important in time and made the character get some more development but the speech was cut.
I agree we need more games to let you side with the villain even if its hard to unlock, I remember one of the old rpg like Lord of the Rings games having a mode where you could replay the fights as the enemy side and had to defeat the player characters.
8:04 - Shepard probably never knew how absolutely biizarrely cynical that sounded as in the end he .. and as an extension the player .. had no chance to make his own choice at all. Because then Shepard (at least my Shepard) would have stiletto-heel punted the star child off the Citadel .. hacked the Reapers into Self Destruct and would have done another "death burning at her heel into a waiting dropship" Ellen Ripley style. Now *_that_* would have been an ending I needed to see. Definetely not a second rate Reaper Man Saren-Clone Bossfight you were bound to win anyway. One slide Bioware. Just one slide of her surviving this ridiculous dialogue and mourning at the grave of her Lizard Man Space Boyfriend. One slide and all your faults would have been forgotten.
The Legacy of Kain series is, to this day, probably the single most well written and acted game series of all time. Legitimately shameful how many people have never heard of it.
Just couldn't stop laughing hearing the text: "I' getting a 'No'!" after claiming that there were no discussions about the Ending of Mass Effect 3. The timing, the intonation, everything in that phrase was perfect.
Wasn't the whole thing about the ending of The Last of Us was that there was a good chance the Vet Doctor would not be successful in the operation, just like all the other times they thought they had a lead but lost it after killing said person?
I know that is an acronym, but I really want a Reaperfied Tim to show up in ME4 now. Not the Illusive Man, just some bloke named Tim who got reaperfied, but like, not all the way.
William Golding's 1954 novel "Lord of the Flies" tells the story of a group of young boys who find themselves alone on a deserted island. They develop rules and a system of organization, but without any adults to serve as a civilizing impulse, the children eventually become violent and brutal.
@The Gaming Meta the person on the video said it was called lord of the flies coz they killed all the gaurds but seeing as its basically same plot this would seem better explaination than what was offered on the video
@@Kartissa i can never forger how awful my 10 year old me felt. English is not my first language, and I just mashed through the last dialogue not knowing there was a choice there. I never meant to kill my friends :(
If I was Konami I would cut the deal of you keep going but we're splitting the game with each chunk being full price (with phantom pain being the first chunk)
ok, just had a thought here, but stay with me on this. mass effect 3 with the original ghost catalyst, 3 colored explosions ending, AND a conversation boss fight to book end the series (begining: talk to saren before fighting him, end: talk to elusive man before fighting). Instead of the conversation being a puzzle that avoids a phase of the boss fight as with saren, why not have the conversation be an overview of the players save data and the most important paragon/renegade decisions? each paragon or renegade decision talked about would reduce the bosses eventual shields or armor based on the outcome. not only would an overview of the players decisions make them feel more important and epic, it would give a reason why sometimes Shepard is a pure paragon, or renegade until the final choice, looking over his/her history caused a change of heart. as an alternate ending for mass effect, without changing any of the actual outcomes, i think it would help make player choice feel important.
I was on the QA team for Tomb Raider: Underworld, so I got to see the original ending in the game before it was cut. I think it was actually some of the other QA testers who suggested changing it, because they felt leaving Amanda to die was inconsistent with Lara's character. It was fairly late in development, too; I was surprised the other devs actually listened to the suggestion!
i mean i can’t say i’d blame laura croft myself, that woman clearly wanted to bash laura’s head in with a rock, truly it’s just her protecting herself, i mean laura did leave her peacefully the first time after they worked together to get out i assume and then boom, lady comes at her with a rock, i’d shoot her too, and is there really a way they could prove i could trust a person after they try to kill me, nah mate, so yeah, just like laura id personally leave her to die too.
personally i feel laura croft was justified there.
@@MaskedKittyYT Even if justified, I can see how it can feel out of character or set the wrong tone
@@MaskedKittyYT same
I'm glad they changed it.
“More game endings where we can just side with the final boss, please”, Now that's a great idea for a list! (Examples: Arcanum and Fallout).
The original Streets of Rage also comes into mind.
Wait what? Can you elaborate for me a little?
A Bard's Tale. Fight the boss... or, join her and go have implied kinky fun times with the demon lady while the rest of the world burns. Decisions, decisions...
Would have said Farcry 4, but not acting against the villain and just going home, not really the same.
Does killing the villain, only to pick up his mask and let him take over count? Then Fable lost chapters.
The original Dragon Quest. Travel through the maze castle talk to the boss and chose to either fight him or get half the world.
I thought the Mass Effect one was gonna be about the ending that was planned that went into how the Reapers were actually there to harvest the buildup of Element Zero the galaxy's advanced civilizations created in order to prevent the universe basically imploding in on itself
Still so so much better as a plot point...
@@MSte21 100%. Significantly better, because it actually makes sense. The whole "Reapers want to save organic life by exterminating organic life" shit is.. meh. Really, really meh.
If they just wanted to prevent civilizations from creating genocidal synthetic life, they couldn't have maybe tried, oh I don't know.. talking to them? Maybe a public serious threat that if they find out AI beyond a certain threshold is produced, THEN they'll kill everybody, while gesturing to all the far more advanced civilizations they've destroyed before so that way people know not to fuck around?
I wonder if the Kingdom of the Flies mission in Metal Gear would have came before or after you find out the truth about Venom Snake
Eli has a sweet line in that half finished cutscene “I’m not me, I’m just a copy of you!”
Which would be nice foreshadowing if we don’t know the truth
But if we did already know it would be a great way of showing the difference between snake and Eli by their reaction such a revelation
Yeah, I actually wonder about this.
15:35
It should be illegal to have the intro to Symphony of the Night in a video if it doesn't reach the moment where Dracula throws his wine glass to the floor.
I have "What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets!" blue balls now.
There was A LOT more cut out of the Mass Effect 3 ending. Originally, most of the game was going to follow a different path that would lead to disabling the source of the Reapers' power and unraveling their origin, mostly involving the dark matter plot thread that was introduced during Tali's quest-line in ME2. However, halfway through production, everything they had done so far was leaked and they had to rework a lot of the progress they had made. To make matter worse, they were still forced to meet the deadline of early 2012 and had VERY limited time in which to complete this reworking of the game, which ultimately led to BioWare having to cut short their work on the ending. This debacle was not only the reason they had to then invest so much into the extended cut to make up for what they weren't allowed to do to begin with but also resulted in the Leviathan DLC, because they had to find a new way of exploring the Reapers' back-story that couldn't be incorporated into the main game. A really upsetting reason for a lot of really upsetting backlash. :(
They didn't have to rework anything--they could have just run with it and added some bells and whistles.
Let me guess... the devs wanted to keep working on the original plan but higher ups forced them to change it.. I hope whoever leaked it regretted their decision but I doubt it
It is that whole George RR Martin quote about "if you already set up that the butler did it". Just because people have figured out the ending doesn't mean you should change it, because you've ready built up to that ending and it would make the ending not work as well with the plot you've already developed
@@firstpersonwinner7404 exactly. I never got that “damn, someone figured out the ending so I need to change everything” attitude in games, shows, books, media in general really. Just stick to your version, or are you really that afraid that people won’t buy the story once the ending’s been leaked to them?
@@jordinagel1184 Imagine if someone tried to rewrite Lord of the Rings just because we all knew that in the end they would destroy the ring 💍
"Darn, I was kinda hoping the Last Of Us entry was going to be about that one gag take where everyone was sing-- ah, you're always one step ahead of me, Oxbox."
I still remember the day i found out dhampirs are actually an old folklore thing and not something invented by videogames or Hollywood. Granted, dhampirs were probably invented to explain why a widow could have a child over nine months after her husband died - without calling her out for having extramarital sex.
Back in the day, that kind of thing mattered, and usually they probably just called them unpleasant things, unless of course the widow was someone like the mayor's daughter or the likes, at which point the village priest would probably go "Ah, uh, yes, she...had the baby with her husband! (Yeah, that's the ticket, yeah!) Who is now...a vampire! Which is bad. Very bad. So *she won't do it again.*" (side-eye look at the widow who looks suitably ashamed while stifling giggles) "So, uh, the child is a...dhampir. Yes. Which is a thing. Totally. Now I'll go put a stake in her husband's heart so he won't rise again, because everyone knows that works. And all you guys who wanted me to throw her out of the village can help me rebury him."
That's probably how a lot of weird folklore started
That was a 90's Japanese Animation movie called Vampire Hunter D
Oh, I'd bet it would be a lot worse than than just some Jane calling.
Andy talking about Hideo, makes him sound like M. Bison. He didn't want unlimited time and money for evil. He wanted it for good.
he used it for us.
For you, the worst day of your life was when you lost your home, family, friends and village. For me it was merely a Tuesday. -M Bison.
Your favorite memories of your childhood were defined by what I made, for you it was the best time of your life. For me it was merely a Tuesday. -Kojima.
@Bleh I think Death Stranding was partially a thumbing his nose at Konami. Look what I was able to do and it still brought in money. I bought it, but it was mostly for the epilogue lol
By good you mean his obsession with the model he based the Quiet on?
When he put it like that, . . . it kinda makes more sense now...
So, feeling regret for an ending that isn't actually there...that's a very meta phantom pain by Kojima
@The Gaming Meta if anyone were to do this though it would be kojima. I think we'll get an mgs2 where we'll look back and see what a great game this is
Mass Effect 3 had an entirely different plot about dark matter/dark energy being produced by using mass effect based FTL killing stars. Using the mass relays minimizes the impact but the reapers exist to make sure Milky Way species don't overuse it and effectively rip the galaxy apart. Thus the murdering spacefareing civilizations. Lot more interesting than "AI bad!"
Don't know if to call them bad. Technically speaking, they are fulfilling the task their creators gave them, that of preserving life at all cost from the synthetic lifeforms they create and tend to go rogue. It's just the solution they ended up concluding to fulfill their purpose was one the creators didn't see it coming
More interesting, but to be fair, our universe is already being ripped apart by dark matter in a sense, so that would seem like a pretty fruitless motivation in context.
You guys seriously cut right before "WHAT IS A MAN?!?!" That was the best part lol.
They also should have capped off the "he'll be fine" part with a shot of him crying at the end of Season 2 of the Netflix series.
Was looking forward to hearing it lol
This is sacrilege
The what?
A man is simply a biped with neither fur not feathers.
Dark souls also has a deleted ending which is quite interesting:
Originally Oscar, Knight of Astora was probably supposed to be saved by you or something like that and then you would meet him along your journey and then according to the ending you "choose" he would decide that you did the wrong thing and he will try to stop you for he is desperate play a part in the prophecy that will decide the fate of the undead
I am more intrigued by the "cut" ending to Mass Effect trilogy where the actual in-universe "mass effect" phenomenon would have factored into the plot and been a part of the solution.
Yes, finally my boy Raziel getting some limelight! I would add that a lot of things cut from Soul Reaver (and also Soul Reaver 2) ended up in Defiance (even Raziel killing Kain, although he got better), making that game pretty much an "alternate ending" sequel altogether.
...Although "sequel" may not be the best word to use here as Soul Reaver is actually set in the farthest future of the whole series with the other titles taking place all over the timeline.
"cutscene 30% complete" yeah probably still goes for an hour though lol Kojima style
I think it meant in terms of art asserts. compared to finished MGSV art it's kinda like paper dolls on a stage and doesn't even have all the environment.
Man, seeing those words really hurt me, since the game would have received my GotY had it been fully completed.
I don’t know how many times I’ve watched the unfinished chapter content for MGSV. Every time I watch it it just amazes me that they couldn’t bother to finish it. They could however be bothered to give us a garbage game that we didn’t ask for using the exact same engine.
Apparently, mission 51 was cut early into development (i.e., before the falling out with Kojima)
“More game endings where we can just side with the final boss, please”
Proceeds to show the death of the final boss. Conflicting actions, y’all..
They should do a 7 most mentioned games on Outside
Didn't the original Mass Effect 1 and 2 writer say the original ending would of had something to do with dark energy mentioned in Mass Effect 2's Tali recruitment mission
I seem to remember the idea was that dark energy was somehow destroying the universe at a rate too slow to ever be recognised my organic life, and the reapers were at attempt to imortalise organic races in the hope of collecting enough immortal being with different ideologies that they could solve the problem
@@TheLokitheinane oh that would have been extremely interesting and would have completely changed Mass Effect!
Wasted and incoherent potential, ME3.
Yes. A significantly more interesting conundrum, IMO, than what ended up being the final conflict (which ends up making the Reapers to be complete freaking idiots).
That was quite entertaining. I especially appreciated how deftly you managed the several endings for which there was limited, incomplete, or even no data that could be inserted into your video. Well done!
Wasn't there an alternate ending to Shadow of the Tomb Raider involving a letter from Natalya or something? Removed in a day one patch, but a few people who played with the unpatched version saw it anyway.
Yes there was. Internet legend has it that only a single player saw it because of crappy Internet connection so he didn't download the patch and then wasn't believed until much later when dataminers found it
I find the lack of a demand for a Legacy of Kain series remake in the comments upsetting. Seriously, just keep the original audio files (because no one can top Tony Jay's performance), and have the original games as a completion bonus, and I (if not everyone) would be so happy.
You had me at the original games being a completion bonus.
Good news. Apparently bluepoint are working on a soul reaver remake for ps5 with "modern gameplay sensibilities" so I assume that means some sort of leveling system probably based on souls consumed (but probably not from slaugh) and rehauled combat probably with soulsborne similarities since they worked on demons souls and the concept of having to find portals when you discorporiate
@@incredibleflameboy I... I don't know how I feel about that. I was imagining a remake akin to the Medievil one. And if anything I'd imagine Soul Reaver was more Darksiders 2 than Demon/Dark Souls. Also, wouldn't it make more sense to remake Blood Omen first?
@@incredibleflameboy Where's proof?
@@michaelandreipalon359 I googled soul reaver remake and it was on a daily mail article which is where I got the quote.
14:00 correction.
There is footage of the cut content. Before facing Kane, there is a snaking corridor which shows alternate timelines and it shows cut scenes without audio. Raziel is seen in one of these striking Arial with the Reaver and it made the reaver white and “pure” . He does this in the third game but it was originally meant to be in the first game.
ooh interesting!
Came here to say this! I'm glad someone else caught it. :D
*Kain
*Ariel
Legacy of Kain... always awesome hearing Tony Jay's stellar voice-work.
All the voice work in those games was amazing.
Removed / changed scenes and bloopers are always my favourite.
What about the Shadow of the Tomb Raider? The cut ending actually made it onto the final game, but was removed by the day 1 patch.
So unless the game is actually unplayable without that, just don't update and keep deleted content.
@@insaincaldo Isnt worth it, the both epiloges a basicly the same, the furniture has different color and they removed a easter egg from Tomb Raider 1, because the new Lara has nothing to do with the original Lara, its just not the same Universe. The unpached funiture is more wooden, give the cinematic a darker look, the pached version is white color and gives there cinematic a nice, brighter and more hopeful look. Personally, i like the pached version more.
Nobody mentions the Life is Strange leaked ending where Max goes back and stops Nathan but gets shot, and goes to the hospital while both Arcadia Bay and Chloe live.
Wait what??
the what!?!?
That would have made way more sense than the actual ending
@@KaitouKaiju Ikr?? Neither ending was actually smart, you could have saved both, Max!
man, that singing ending for TLOU is so funny, I watch it at LEAST twice a year
"Kain Unable" deserves an xmas bonus for whoever thought that up
Whoa, wait. They had a different voice telling the "story" at the end for non US versions? We had an ex astronaut, Buzz Aldrin.
I believe the female voice over was for the "let the reapers win" ending added with the aforementioned ending DLC.
He still is an Astronaut. Being an astronaut is like becoming sexually active. If you've done it once, that's a label with you for life.
@@142doddy I heard it's painful to pee up there
No, that female voice was for the "Reapers win because fuck you angry fans" ending.
It's bananas seeing voice actors acting out pieces like that! Especially when the girl is the teenager from What Women Want, isn't she? :D
Yep it is her
She's also the blink and you'll miss it waitress that cap saves in the first avengers film. I think she has a small speaking role at the end of the film thanking him for saving her on the news reports
@@incredibleflameboy Yes! She's got one line at the end!
I feel like the beginning of "Last of us part 2" has a strong essence of that live action bit we never got to see
It is pretty much that scene word for word
What about the Fallout: New Vegas ending where Mr. House strikes a deal with the NCR where he gives up the Mojave Wasteland except for The Strip in exchange for becoming an NCR citizen?
Spoilery vids like this one would really profit from some timestamps in the description
Crazy timing on this since a bunch of storyboards for Halo 2's original ending JUST surfaced.
Onward to part 2!
Wait, seriously?!
YO imagine a legacy of Kain remaster ?
That would be lit
id be preordering it so fast
mostly bc the controls back then ruined me duo to WASD and space to jump was not the established standard back in the day apparently xD
I'D LOSE MY FUCKING MIND 🖤
I wish! I would buy it if it has a Deluxe Edition!
Good news. Apparently bluepoint are working on a soul reaver remake for ps5 with "modern gameplay sensibilities" so I assume that means some sort of leveling system probably based on souls consumed (but probably not from slaugh) and rehauled combat probably with soulsborne similarities since they worked on demons souls and the concept of having to find portals when you discorporiate
@@incredibleflameboy Are you seriously?! Shut up I am astonished!🤩
To be fair to Neil Druckmann and Naughty Dog, that unfilmed epilogue is really just the prologue of The Last of Us Part Two, so anyone who's played part two or even just seen a playthrough of it has seen it.
Al so maybe it was never really meant to be part of TLOU1 at all, but was something the writers had written to continue the story for TLoU2.
@@marhawkman303 maybe. I figure they wrote the first game and were pitching ideas for a follow-up throughout, and someone came up with that scene that didn't really work as an epilogue in the game so they performed it at the One Night Live as a test run and....
6:28 That's cold Lara...
I see what ya did there 😂😂😂
Heh, I was honestly expecting the alternate TLOU ending to be the musical version. :D
Thank you guys so much for including LoK!!
Love the livestreams. Super engaging on their own and if push comes to shove the witty banter is a great way to fall asleep. Thanks to the oxbox crew, you're excellent.
Still love to see legacy of kain games in these list.
With it being my favorite series for more than just nostalgic reasons, seeing anyone else continuing to mention Legacy of Kain makes me SERIOUSLY happy! 🖤🦇
@@Daelyah yeah I know the feeling well haha 😁
Wasn’t expecting Tomb Raider Underworld on here at all. One of my favorite games in the franchise to be honest
It's my favourite. The reboot Lara never became the badass Tomb Raider despite devs alluding to a defining moment. Plus, Keeley Hawes's VA can't be beaten by Camila. The old Lara didn't have an exceptional personality, but it sure is better than the wooden spoon we have now.
@@thegreatpineapple4425 I personally see the Survivor Lara as the same one from the Tomb Raider Trilogy, just in an alternate version of it were she had to go through hell MULTIPLE times before going there literally twice (as Xibalba and Helheim are the Mayan and Norse hells xD). Mind you that does create some continuity problems with TR1/Anniversary but I see it more as her repressing the memories of the last three games xD
I'm here to join the Underworld appreciation club. Lovely game with massive levels and graphics that still look great
Honestly I love both Underworld and the re-reboot games. They're all great! And it was indeed a pleasant surprise to see Underworld pop up here.
@@pockylovingranger Well, also, in the original TR, Lara alludes to having been around the world and done stuff most people never even dreamed of right? She doesn't really say WHAT....
That kingdom of the flies ending sounds really cool and I hate that it never happened
The Last of Us ending is used in TLoU2 as a flashback.
Add timestamps for these X-number Y-stuff, so your watchers can skip spoilers easier
You had me @ "Legacy of Kain‼"
Nice to see Soul Reaver get some love. Feel it's a lost gem these days.
I would kill for a remaster of that series.
Those game 100% deserve an HD update.
I swear, if the Legacy of Kain series could ever get a proper remaster, I'd sell my redundant organs on the black market just to have them...! 😭
Legacy of kain games were my all time favorite growing up. The voice talent and epic story elements put these games in a league of their own. Especially soul reaver. Been waiting for a sequel to soul reaver for decades.
0:20 Well, 1978- Space Invaders has a happy ending, so long as you get that final alien....
As a long time LoK fan, I had never heard anything about this ending before today. I always felt there was stuff left out, wandering the game you can find all kinds of things with no explanation. I'll never forget the feeling of seeing that cliffhanger ending, and waiting two years for the continuation.
yeah that's the big problem with environmental story telling... things get left up to interpretation... but worst of all... sometimes you put in things that tell the other story you thought you removed from the game :p
@@marhawkman303 I like to see them as spurring the imagination on "what-ifs," playing off of how time travel created numerous paradoxes throughout the series.
@@Daelyah perhaps... if that story gets told.
I liked the Mass Effect ending they planned from 1 and 2. The one where the dark energy field expanding the universe was collapsing and the Reapers were making organic races into Reapers in order to stop it. The choice was supposed to be, defeat the reapers and figure that problem out later, let the reapers take most of humanity to make the one reaper they needed next in exchange for leaving everyone else alone, let the reapers take most of humanity and take control of that reaper, and I think there was a fourth one but I honestly can't remember.
I actually think not ending me3 with a boss fight was a cool choice, despite the other problems with the ending
What about the cut Brotherhood of Steel ending in Fallout 4? With Paladin Danse staging a coup with you to overthrow Elder Maxon?
That... would've improved the game, even if only marginally.
Learned something new about lok sr. However found it interesting you didn’t mention defiance ending and ending of the series
Always breaks my heart we never got Dark Prophecy. Would've helped resolve the question about Vorador being mysteriously back from the dead in Blood Omen 2.
I think most video game protagonists could be described as the person who kills a ton of (whatever) in order to (insert reason here).
So having amazing hair is a vampiric power. And Jane has amazing hair. So...
I'll always leave a like for a Soul Reaver mention, the first game I bought, and the first one I beat
Always a pleasure to see my Lord Kain and Sir Raziel!
I love mass effect and I've never heard about a reaperfied TIM being an actual endgame boss fight, it sounds interesting, maybe they will include it in the remaster...please.
That sounds like a amazingly tough boss fight
Illusive Man: There are some who call me... TIM....
I still have doubts on the remaster.
Bioware planned it, but dropped it because it went against T.I.M.'s personality. That creature was too brutish, he was a thinker, planner, and the conflict we got was more inline with that. I think that having ways to fail the conversation to Shepard's death (and maybe have victory a little more dependent on actions taken in game) would have improved it, but otherwise the ending, as a whole, was excellent (with expansion dlc) and better than anything else planned.
Ooh, perhaps this will include the ending in MGSV whete they get rid of all of theit nukes, considering hoe Liquid Snake is in the thumbnail
Two words “spell check”
@@Kpimpmaster Two words "you are gay"
sorry but they don't could do it next time
LEGACY OF KAIN!!!
That's all I wanted to say
Good for you. Shame about the later sequels though.
Vae Victus! 🖤🦇
Mike said that I look like a helpful person and i am. How does he know? Can he see me? This changes everything.
@The Gaming Meta I'm not scared. *turns phone off*
I would love an alternative ending video to this "7 Deleted Game Endings You Need to See" video.
Lara in the new trilogy would not second guess leaving someone to freeze on the mountain side. Cold killer, that one.
I was about to make a joke that Mass Effect 3 should be on this list. Surprised but also not at all surprised that it is.
It's no Indoctrination Theory, but it's something.
Regarding Mass Effect 3: Bit of a side story, though in the same vain of gaming easter eggs - In ME3, if you choose for whatever reason to not help Jack and her students at the Grissom Academy, she'll get indoctrinated by the Reapers and you'll have a chance of running into her as a Phantom (crouching katana-wielding enemy) in the final mission. She even angrily screams "SHEPARD" while trying to kill you, which is completely justified if you chose to let her fall like some kind of soulless monster.
Thanks for the great list guys. Love u all. Stay Safe.
As a die hard Legacy Of Kain fan, I sure am glad they didn't end it like THAT. Though I'm still peeved they never concluded the story. I stopped gaming 14 years ago, and I have sworn black and blue that the only game that will ever bring me back from the gaming wilderness is a new Legacy Of Kain game.
Anyone else want to actually experience that Mass Effect 3 final boss fight?
Just me?
oh well.
Side note Knights of the old republic 2 has lots of end game content cut out in the original release. Some of it has since been recovered and is available as a patch.
Not in T.I.M.'s character. A battle of wills was better.
Thank the fans for that blessing.
If we're lucky, mayhaps the Metal Gear fans could do the same with MGSV.
What I love about the legacy of Kain ending is they literally ret-conned it in the opening cinematic of the VERY next game. In the PS1/Dreamcast version, Kain gets his butt kicked and limps through the time portal. In the opening cinematic of Soul Reaver 2, Raziel gets completely wiped across the floor and Kain walks through the time portal more than slightly taking the piss out of him.
Any list of unused content/concept art is super cool
Marauder Shields did his best to save us all from the ending.
I was ready to actually applaud you running the whole scene between Richter and Dracula--only for you to cut at the "What is a man?" part!!??
Yaaaassssss
Legacy of Kain!
OX-Crew... I love you guys
What do you mean? Starchild? Picking colours? All I can remember is Shepard paying respect to Anderson and retiring to Rannoch with Tali. Gotta help the Geth with the renovations!
As far as I'm concerned my Mass Effect ended with Shepard waking up next to his boyfriend, Kadien, after a house killer party and having a late breakfast with all their friends before heading out to play endless matches at the Armex Arena. Good times.
@@cyberpersephone Aww... That's so sweet. *EXCEPT YOU LET KAIDAN LIVE!!!*
On a serious note, my renegade broshep could've romanced him, but Tali is such a sweet alien cinnamon roll. I might try Kaidan when I inevitably play the trilogy again.
@@thegreatpineapple4425 Tali was my strong second choice for romance, in fact, I think I have a ME2 playthrough where I did romance Tali since Kadien was being such a scrub in that game and she's awesome.
@@cyberpersephone Tali romance is special cus of the compromised immune system of their species. She goes to great lengths to make sure she could be with Shepard. It could be fatal for her. That's how much Shep means to her.
At the end of ME3 when Shep asks her to go back and build herself a home, she says she already has a home. Needless to say, I was bawling my eyes out.
I was gonna say, if Legacy of Kain wasn't mentioned...!
I'm obsessed with that series, so I at least have heard about a number of lost possibilities we had with LoK. My heart STILL hurts that we never got Dark Prophecy, though... 😩
I wonder if they may find some way to implement that ME3 original ending in the Mass Effect Legendary Edition? It sounds fun, and by fixing the ending, they could hype people up even more for the next Mass Effect.
If it were that easy...
That made me think, how about 7 times player characters just watched because cutscene when they could've prevented something? One example is in Labyrinth of Refrain, where party just watches female explorer get brutally eaten by a troll that's in the same room and doesn't bother attacking it until it's done.
I don't think Lara leaving Amanda would have hurt her character at that point. It was a cocky walk away ending, and Amanda was literaly still trying to kill Lara.
In the words of women the whole world over, Self defence is not also abuse.
Seeing as they have the voice lines already it would be cool in the future if they ever remaster MGS5 that they'd finish the final mission and add it in. Probably won't happen knowing Konami, but it would be pretty neat
Also, I thought Mass Effect 3 had crashed the first time I finished it. I reloaded my last save and played to the ending again just to realize that, no, the game didn't crash at the end and cut out 30 minutes of the game, but just sort of ends suddenly. I was a bit shook
About siding with the final boss, on Breath of Fire 4, you can side with Fou-lu (aka final boss), defeat your former party and purge the world. Simple as that.
at the end of assasin's creed 3, the main character Connor was supposed to give a speech that made him realise that what he did wasn't going to be important in time and made the character get some more development but the speech was cut.
I agree we need more games to let you side with the villain even if its hard to unlock, I remember one of the old rpg like Lord of the Rings games having a mode where you could replay the fights as the enemy side and had to defeat the player characters.
8:04 - Shepard probably never knew how absolutely biizarrely cynical that sounded
as in the end he .. and as an extension the player .. had no chance to make his
own choice at all.
Because then Shepard (at least my Shepard) would have stiletto-heel punted the star
child off the Citadel .. hacked the Reapers into Self Destruct and would have done
another "death burning at her heel into a waiting dropship" Ellen Ripley style. Now
*_that_* would have been an ending I needed to see. Definetely not a second rate
Reaper Man Saren-Clone Bossfight you were bound to win anyway.
One slide Bioware. Just one slide of her surviving this ridiculous dialogue and
mourning at the grave of her Lizard Man Space Boyfriend. One slide and all
your faults would have been forgotten.
Yea now we're getting the NEXT mass effect. EDIT:that was a happy ending andy it was a very heart touching one
The Legacy of Kain series is, to this day, probably the single most well written and acted game series of all time. Legitimately shameful how many people have never heard of it.
Just couldn't stop laughing hearing the text: "I' getting a 'No'!" after claiming that there were no discussions about the Ending of Mass Effect 3. The timing, the intonation, everything in that phrase was perfect.
Soul Reaver Legacy of Kain needs a remake, the narrative from Raziel is brilliant in that game
OXbox, you deserve a thumbs up for this vid.
BTW, LoK should have been a duology.
Entry one has already made my week and deserved my like.
Wasn't the whole thing about the ending of The Last of Us was that there was a good chance the Vet Doctor would not be successful in the operation, just like all the other times they thought they had a lead but lost it after killing said person?
Why the **** did they cut out the reapified TIM out of the game? It would have been **** amazing and very, very satisfying
I know that is an acronym, but I really want a Reaperfied Tim to show up in ME4 now. Not the Illusive Man, just some bloke named Tim who got reaperfied, but like, not all the way.
@@tyrannicpuppy there are those who call me....Tim?
William Golding's 1954 novel "Lord of the Flies" tells the story of a group of young boys who find themselves alone on a deserted island. They develop rules and a system of organization, but without any adults to serve as a civilizing impulse, the children eventually become violent and brutal.
@The Gaming Meta the person on the video said it was called lord of the flies coz they killed all the gaurds but seeing as its basically same plot this would seem better explaination than what was offered on the video
"Alyucard" ... that's a new one.
Kingdom of the Flies was probably also a Lord of the Flies reference, I'd say.
15:33 - The Bit About Spelling, 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"More endings where we side with the main villain"
*Breath of Fire IV*: "Am I a joke to you?"
Technically you don't just *side* with the main villain in that ending. You *become* the main villain. (And it's an awesome fight....)
@@Kartissa i can never forger how awful my 10 year old me felt. English is not my first language, and I just mashed through the last dialogue not knowing there was a choice there. I never meant to kill my friends :(
@@mrpinguimninja Ah. I guess it's not so fun if you don't know what you're doing :(
@@Kartissa you can say that again for my deceased party LMAO
But the ending is indeed awesome, i love that game, should replay it some time soon
two of my favorite video games in one list 🙃 I loved it
If I was Konami I would cut the deal of you keep going but we're splitting the game with each chunk being full price (with phantom pain being the first chunk)
ok, just had a thought here, but stay with me on this. mass effect 3 with the original ghost catalyst, 3 colored explosions ending, AND a conversation boss fight
to book end the series (begining: talk to saren before fighting him, end: talk to elusive man before fighting). Instead of the conversation being a puzzle that avoids a phase of the boss fight as with saren, why not have the conversation be an overview of the players save data and the most important paragon/renegade decisions? each paragon or renegade decision talked about would reduce the bosses eventual shields or armor based on the outcome. not only would an overview of the players decisions make them feel more important and epic, it would give a reason why sometimes Shepard is a pure paragon, or renegade until the final choice, looking over his/her history caused a change of heart.
as an alternate ending for mass effect, without changing any of the actual outcomes, i think it would help make player choice feel important.