The TRUTH About Isshiki Otsutsuki's Origins In Boruto

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  • @TXNIZ
    @TXNIZ Рік тому +11

    The twist of Amado being in possession of said turtle, revealing that he knew everything all along is what would confirm him as the Amado everyone thinks he is. I've always thought there is no way Isshiki just sat with him and divulged the secrets of the Otsutsuki, they view humans as insects after all so there'd be no reason to believe Isshiki would do that. I really need the Otsutsuki lore to be focused on in part 2 of Boruto.

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому +5

      I can definitely see that being the case. We definitely need an Otsutsuki centric arc that focuses on the backstory for all of them. Maybe not at the same time

  • @nobody5066
    @nobody5066 Рік тому +5

    I personally believe it has something to do with Daikokuten. Since Daikokuten is a Dimension where Time is frozen and beings don't age or get sick. He could have gotten in there. This would explain the longevity of Sukunahikona. Another reason is, he can go to the other dimension to the baby ten tails and feed himself it's Chakra to preserve Sukunahikona. And on that note. We don't know how long it takes for him to fully make another's body his. For all we know it could take hundreds of years to integrate all the otsutsuki data from him to the body while simultaneously absorbing nutrients while maintaining Sukunahikona. The fact that he was maintaining Sukunahikona and absorbing nutrients could have been the reason why the otsutsuki extraction was slow.

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому +1

      That would assume that the effects of his own timespace works on him as well, and also that he can unfreeze himself whenever he feels like doing so even though he should be frozen in time. I guess it's possible so you can go with that.

  • @paulocuento9949
    @paulocuento9949 Рік тому +7

    this perfectly answers the theoretical scenario about ishikis absence... i honestly believe urashiki traveling back to the past may be the reason why the manga and anime has different continuities. maybe it has something to do with changing the story perse

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому +3

      It would be pretty crazy if boruto has alternate timelines

    • @clodismccuien8082
      @clodismccuien8082 Рік тому +1

      That's why subscribe to this channel... Some of the theories may be out there but most of them make sense

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому +2

      ​@@clodismccuien8082🔥🔥

  • @clodismccuien8082
    @clodismccuien8082 Рік тому +16

    The unknown reason why she attacked him is going to be the Apex of this series.😊

  • @adithyag34
    @adithyag34 Рік тому +1

    This was such an amazing theory ,I really hope they address this 🔥

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching fam🔥

  • @jetcaspian2882
    @jetcaspian2882 Рік тому

    Great theory/video! Keep em coming.

  • @theshowtime4123
    @theshowtime4123 Рік тому +4

    Dude, your theorey is too good, I agree ! But, if he had the time turutle, then why didn't he go to the past and defeat Kagyua simply? I think that because he saw that in the future the planet will have more chakara to absorb thus will generate a better fruit. Also, the reason why Isshiki stood and did nothing for a Thousand years might be because he did not have a ten tails beast, I think ten tailed beast are very rare and hard to find because we saw him assigning code to watch the beast in another realm constantly. I think another Otuski might have stolen the tailed beast if Code didn’t watch it.

    • @Kenyode
      @Kenyode Рік тому +1

      My thoughts exactly

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому +4

      Thanks fam. I actually thought about that while making the vid, and I think it probably has limitations when it comes to meddling with his own past or it could be a fixed point in time. Like the flash's mother needing to die.

    • @theshowtime4123
      @theshowtime4123 Рік тому +1

      @@Kidomaki We need Kishomoto to answer all these questions soon, because he is way too late.

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому +1

      Facts

    • @kadar_radio6308
      @kadar_radio6308 Рік тому

      Otsutsuki must be in a free for all game of capture the tailed beast 😂 yo step on a few billion lives and become a supreme being “a peerless god” if isshiki did some time travel shit then him and momo are def at some kind of Cold War even in death

  • @BladedShard
    @BladedShard Рік тому

    Interesting theory~ I personally just think that parts of his activity during the formation of Kara could explain his absence and even before that. Like, we know at some point he went offworld to get a new Ten Tails- so maybe he could've been out between dimensions searching? Theres also the two markings for other Otsutsuki that were ruined in the Ten Tails dimension, maybe they could be related to that and Isshiki's Ten Tails. I wonder if Isshiki was the one who took them out and then ruined their marks.
    Plus theres also the fact that he wanted to pass on reviving through Jigen and had spent years trying to find a better vessel- probably even before meeting Amado. Though I'd be unsurprised if some of what Amado has told us has been purposefully lacking or untrue. I always found if weird that he conveniently just appears to him after he failed to revive his daughter himself.

  • @alessandrof2167
    @alessandrof2167 Рік тому

    Whagwan bredren ! Keep up the good content! My only issue with the theory would be , if he did travel back in time for a ideal vessel. Wouldn't Jubidara or Jubito have been the ideal vessels and also perfect revenge on Kawguya ?

    • @kadar_radio6308
      @kadar_radio6308 Рік тому

      No I would consider them vessels of kaguya

    • @alessandrof2167
      @alessandrof2167 Рік тому

      @@kadar_radio6308 why is that ? If they were good enough for Kawguya, they would have been good enough for isshiki and better than Jigen

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому

      Thanks fam! The thing is that we dont know what constitutes a perfect vessel. Neither did amado or isshiki, which is why it took so long for them to find one. If Otsutsuki heritage was a known key factor, they would've gone after naruto or a senju as well but they didn't. So I guess that doesn't make them an ideal vessel

  • @lzpain9189
    @lzpain9189 Рік тому

    Great video. I hope we get more lore for the otsutski and i want lore of code why he is obsesed with jigen/isshiki and otsutski

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому

      Thanks fam. We need that Otsutsuki arc fr

  • @janpaulgarde8639
    @janpaulgarde8639 Рік тому +1

    Ishiki is consuming jigens earwax when he entered his ear

  • @tronortron
    @tronortron Рік тому

    Isshiki's past and formation of kara are still so mysterious which is why I was very disappointed when he died so soon and still believe he will definitely come back in some form.

  • @clodismccuien8082
    @clodismccuien8082 Рік тому +4

    The reason whe was able to stay in a small form. It's because he was feeding off the chakra from jigen... Some people may not know this about the naruto series but the otsutsuki body does not make Chakra ...It absorbs and stores the chakra... The human body produces the chakra... That's why when you run out of chakra it will regain over time... The clan members do not have that ability they must take it from another source... So he was constantly taking chakra from jigen those thousand years he was using him like a generator... Momoshiki is doing the same thing to boruto as we speak.

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому +5

      I don't think it's that they don't generate chakra, they just have the ability to take it as well. The karma seal is different since they are still technically dead so they have to rely on the chakra of the vessel. Isshiki using jigen's chakra makes sense since he's in that shrunken state permanently. There's an issue there since jigen didn't have chakra until isshiki gave it to him similar to what hagoromo did to the other humans. With that being said, there's still the fatigue that comes from continuously using your ability which should still be in play even if he keeps absorbing chakra.

    • @kadar_radio6308
      @kadar_radio6308 Рік тому

      @@Kidomakiwell all these 1000s of years (allegedly) Jigen/ isshiki was in possession of a ten tails stowed in his large secured bag to take chakra from… that’s another unexplained thing because why don’t momo and kinshiki just pull up with a new ten tails

    • @clodismccuien8082
      @clodismccuien8082 Рік тому

      @@Kidomaki All living things have chakra except the clan members.. They take Chakra. and use it in a different manner jigen had Chakra just like every other human.. He probably did not know how to mold Chakra like ninjas... But he still has it that's what humans are made of.... When a clan member takes chakra it becomes theirs.. But they do not produce it on their own like humans... They can take it and do totally different things with it... Prolonging their life... Intensify the chakra that was absorbed... They can even section off the chakra they have taken... And only use certain Chakra ....urashiki..... The clan members have Chakra stored all over their body... And all of this was happening before kagyua ... This is their purpose for planting the god tree and gathering chakra because their body does not make Chakra they can only take it from other sources... But after they take it it becomes Their possession... That's that's why the karma seal is so important ..... Everything that jigen was doing before he got amped up on ten tails chakra.. Was done with the human jigen chakra.. isshiki was just controlling his body on Moulding the chakra.. So when we say Momoshiki's chakra we mean the chakra that momoshiki has taken over the millennium not what his body naturally produces

    • @clodismccuien8082
      @clodismccuien8082 Рік тому

      @@Kidomaki And remember kawaki does not have good chakra control. So it may not be that he can't stay in that form long ...he just does not know how isshiki had perfect chakra control... All the clan members have it because it is their life

    • @clodismccuien8082
      @clodismccuien8082 Рік тому +1

      @@kadar_radio6308 I don't think the tentails likes the clan members.. I think they carry the tentails switch them but they are not in control of it.. momo did not seem surprised to hear that isshiki had a juvenile ten tails... He was just worried about finding it.. So I guess it's not uncommon for them to have a ten tails... But we will see... When he needed to do something big that jigen wasn't strong enough for he would juice his self up on tentails chakra...You are one hundred percent correct... And having that much chakra physically hurts jigen. That's why he cried during the with naruto and sasuke.... They are not humans they are parasites remember that l o l

  • @atg3990
    @atg3990 Рік тому

    interesting video

  • @jamevolve8380
    @jamevolve8380 Рік тому

    Dope theory

  • @Borchert97
    @Borchert97 Рік тому

    Okay I like this a lot, you have a REALLY spicy theory here, however I don't think Karasuki is connected to Isshiki, rather, I think the two missing Otsutsukis are, the ones from the crushed panels. I think they have something to do with the time travel shit Urashiki was doing.
    I think it's more likely Isshiki was hiding in the Daikokuten dimension. Time doesn't flow there and he's been depicted sitting in some sort of dimension that Kara was able to communicate with him in. I think he's conscious in Daikokuten but his captives may not be, so Naruto and Hinata might not be right now, or maybe they are Dr. Stone style, with the petrification where time doesn't flow but your brain still functions so you're conscious the entire time to a varying degree.

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому

      Thanks. That's also possible

  • @m.k.o7610
    @m.k.o7610 Рік тому +1

    This theory makes a whole lot of sense.

  • @-DEYRA-
    @-DEYRA- Рік тому

    i dont know but i think there is def a specific reason that is probably going to be explain by amado himself

  • @erosannin97
    @erosannin97 Рік тому

    W content

  • @cyberprime1257
    @cyberprime1257 Рік тому

    Please can you make a video about kawaki's parent. Especially his mother. Kawaki is one of the main characters in the Boruto story so just like suske in the Naruto story we need to know something about kawaki's parents, whether his mother is connected to the otitsuki or maybe was killed by one. Or maybe his mother's death is the cause of his dad's craziness

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому

      I definitely would but we know nothing about her tbh. She hasn't been mentioned at all so there's nothing to work with

    • @cyberprime1257
      @cyberprime1257 Рік тому

      I see

  • @hahafreddy6313
    @hahafreddy6313 Рік тому

    so jigen is his own person like boruto and kawaki w the karma ?

  • @7.J7
    @7.J7 Рік тому

    Isshiki existence resolves when we get to know those respective symbols that are destroyed which are belongs to certain otsutsuki's members which something has to do with plot otherwise why would they implement them in the story.,
    Remember my head canon theory that I told a year ago about those symbols belongs to otsutsuki's that came before or with kaguya
    The reason why those symbols were destroyed that shows existence of them and reveals their coming
    Since we get to know new otsutsuki's member shibai otsutsuki one of those destroyed symbols belongs to him..for sure ..
    I'm thinking the future of boruto is going to be a intergalactic, multi dimensional and time traveling,,,,,
    The manga is well put together yet it needs so much lore to understand the plot and needs good writing also....

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому +1

      Perfectly said. We need an Otsutsuki arc that focuses on their backstory. That would be pretty cool

  • @nightmaregamings6561
    @nightmaregamings6561 Рік тому

    The answer is Jigan was in Dykokutan dimension for all this year's.

  • @marlonharding4268
    @marlonharding4268 Рік тому

    He uses that ability to have rods shrunken and ready for use in battle. No one knows how long he has had the rods like that. No one said they're was a limit to his ability

  • @itachi_1724
    @itachi_1724 Рік тому +1

    One giant fucking problem though
    And his name is hagoromo
    Kaguya hagoromo and hamura are special beings that actively ignore death
    Hagoromo literally says he travels throughout all time and space meeting every incarnation of indra and ashura
    Meaning there is a multiverse
    And hagoromo travels through them all
    He calls himself an anachronism of time
    And anachronism is something that doesn't belong
    A Being outside time
    He has stated he has "seen the end of everything"
    And he has stated on his travels he meets past and future verses of himself doing the same journey he is on
    And he notices the small differences between him and his past/future selves
    Hagoromo is beyond time and death
    He would 100% know of some crusty ass one shot ripped in half dude traveling to the future
    I have always believed that Boruto is a different universe
    Certain stuff never made sense
    Kurama and Naruto's relationship is weird in Boruto
    It's not like their friend more acquaintances
    They way they talk to each other sounds off
    Kakashi has never shown up not once in the manga
    His face is on the wall but did he die??
    Naruto and Sasuke have no more six paths senjutsu or chakra ???
    They sudden retcon of kaguya is dead according to Boruto when she was sealed wich makes her the only otsutsuki to die and comeback
    (Thanks to Black zetsu making Madara a becon for her chakra signature using the ten tails and reverse summoned her through Madara)
    Wich hagoromo says if Naruto and Sasuke perform the rat sign
    The sealing Yin-yang release Catastrophic planetary devastation will be undone and kaguya is free
    Coming back from death...again
    According to Boruto
    Either way kaguya cannot be killed even when she is killed
    Aka a true immortal
    The very thing momoshiti and isshiti wanted
    She achieved by harvesting earths unique fruit filled with massive amounts of chakra and senjutsu
    (something I think is foreign to otsutsuki based of filler urashiki who shuts down mitsuki in sage mode and says that's a dangerous and strange thing but of course this is filler)
    The reason I think she betrayed isshiti is because she noticed that earth was unique
    And it's a fact a Chakra tree formed and the planet was still there
    Momoshiti said when a otsutsuki harvests a planet it dies along with any inhabitants
    But a tree was formed twice
    That much is fact
    Filler tells us Senjutsu is the reason why it survived
    And possibly the reason kaguya took it for herself
    And one shot ripped isshiti in half she wanted it for herself
    And got it
    Last thing to note
    Not a single otsutsuki has shown anything remotely close to what kaguya has shown
    And what seals the deal
    Is hagoromo gave Naruto and Sasuke six paths chakra and six paths senjutsu (six paths chakra/senjutsu is just regular senjutsu and chakra amped up with all 7 nature's making it very deadly strong it's why Sasuke can touch Naruto's Tso he nullifies the nullification)
    In hopes of scratching kaguya
    Naruto and Sasuke proceed to do nothing to her she tanked 9 six paths powered rasenshuriken and not even a scratch
    Naruto used his fist and destroyed momoshiti at half power
    They are not the same
    And momoshiti is compared to isshiti who got ripped in half one shot by a pre fruit kaguya

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому +1

      When was hagoromo stated to travel to the past present and future? Can you send the chapter where any of this was said because I definitely don't recall that happening

    • @itachi_1724
      @itachi_1724 Рік тому +1

      @@Kidomaki bro
      It's in the chapter he is introduced
      670
      Hagoromo appears
      And Naruto asks "who are you"
      He tries to explain
      But he says he is from the past and talks in a way a different generation wouldn't understand
      But he specifically says
      When he is TRYING explaining to Naruto in old English
      who he is ,where he is from
      He says
      "I am an anachronism ••• over the course of much time cultural traditions and notions...ethics.
      have brought about significant change
      Each time I cross time and meet a reincarnate
      I have come to sense greatly the differences between MYSELF and the other.
      I was able to formalistically regulate and learn new mores and words however..."
      What hagoromo is saying is he is from the past and is not from this time
      And fused with hagoromo of this time to learn what has happened
      He travels throughout the "world"
      Watching all incarnations of indra and ashura
      And watching the factual course of ninshu
      Specifically
      He said
      "I am someone from the PAST someone already dead.
      A monk who wanders through this world as chakra crossing generations, Ascertaining the course of the ninja creed"
      This means he has not only seen the events of this universes history because he became fused with knowledge of this world hagoromo
      As he said he is from the PAST
      As he literally explains the history of Madara wich hagoromo from the past has no knowledge of
      But hagoromo that has been watching knows all
      Note Ascertaining literally means to learn and know the factual events of something
      In hagoromo's case its ninshu throughout the "world"
      I keep saying "world" because it was explained that the translator said it could also mean universe but hagoromo basically confirms there is a multiverse
      Chapter 671 hagoromo talks about Madara Uchiha who he should know nothing about
      But he explained he learned the differences from his "other"
      In the 4th databook it explains that hagoromo meets incarnations of indra and ashura through all time and space

  • @dasshuofficial8489
    @dasshuofficial8489 Рік тому

    Bro what is your thoughts about this Otsutsuki clan? are they still many? or not? how many are they?

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому

      No clue tbh. I would assume there are a few since it's called a clan

  • @nines0018
    @nines0018 Рік тому

    Isshiki was getting Chakra from the 10 Tails to survive bro

  • @chrisw7047
    @chrisw7047 Рік тому +2

    Isshiki's story is so full of plotholes that I think it's not really over yet. I expect him to pull a Madara and return in 200 Episodes or so.

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому +1

      We need that

    • @chrisw7047
      @chrisw7047 Рік тому +2

      @@Kidomaki I think it's going to happen. In order for Amado's and Kawaki's story to come full circle, Isshiki needs to be in the picture again.

  • @BBtheBreezy1176
    @BBtheBreezy1176 Рік тому

    Time travel would honestly make so much more sense

  • @nobody5066
    @nobody5066 Рік тому

    I find that it's too big a stretch. The theory itself is good. But I feel that Time travel opens up multiple plot holes. Such as why didn't he travel to the past instead of the future. If he travel to the past, he could've warned himself about kaguya or stolen the Chakra fruit before kaguya did.

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому +1

      Time travel is tricky and we don't know the limitations of the turtle. Maybe he can't change his past or maybe that event is a fixed point in time. If you watch the Flash, the could write anything to explain why he couldn't do that.

    • @nobody5066
      @nobody5066 Рік тому

      @@Kidomaki true

  • @clodismccuien8082
    @clodismccuien8082 Рік тому

    He definitely had ulterior motives that amado just does not see I think he was trying to build code... Not find kawaki... He knew work kawai was the entire time.... I just find it strange that they found code and kawaki in the same batch after so many failures.. I think code is a clone of whatever makes kawaki special

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому

      That would be interesting

    • @clodismccuien8082
      @clodismccuien8082 Рік тому

      They would not introduce a character like that and then have you not to see him again

    • @clodismccuien8082
      @clodismccuien8082 Рік тому

      Think about the explanation that was given about Is what the karma is..Their abilities is like the house the karma seal is the door.... So technically code is a house with no door... It's easier to put a door on a house than to build a house from scratch... Correct?

    • @kadar_radio6308
      @kadar_radio6308 Рік тому

      @@clodismccuien8082 it just depends on who’s house code’s karma is… even though isshiki poofed to code instead of kawaki after death I just have denial that code has a weaponized karma with absolutely no absorbing ability… he’s kinda like juubito… juubi jinchuriki that has a mangekyo sharingan but can’t use kamui because he’s housing the juubi 😂 like why can’t this specific jinchuriki dimension hop… but there’s large potential for code with his claw marks I can’t wait to see him fight alongside his army of grimes. 🔥🔥🔥

    • @clodismccuien8082
      @clodismccuien8082 Рік тому

      @@kadar_radio6308 I think isshiki going to use codes body .... That's why he wants him to upgrade himself so he can be a vessel... He still. Wants. Kawaki.

  • @marlonharding4268
    @marlonharding4268 Рік тому

    So why not use the title to go back and stop kaguya

  • @ActuallyHim22
    @ActuallyHim22 Рік тому

    If Jigen wasn’t suitable. Why did he have a black karma ? Jigen was a munk, if the general consensus is the vessels have to be similar to their counterparts, then Jigen should have a white karma or none. “Jigens” people must have already had chakra “like every other vessel in the show” for him to not have a white defective karma

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому +1

      What constitutes a perfect vessel actually hasn't been revealed to us as yet, even amado says he doesn't full know. We just know that some people are and some aren't. Jigen was able to become a vessel unlike code, he just wasn't a perfect vessel thus his body decaying. Code wasn't able to became a vessel at all, he just had karma in the form of a weapon.

    • @BladedShard
      @BladedShard Рік тому +1

      He was biologically compatible with the karma- which is just a compression of Isshiki's physical being and a physical "container" for his soul that is to be anchored by a vessel, but despite being compatible enough that he could withstand not dying when the karma was applied- Jigen's physical body ultimately couldn't handle Isshiki's pure power, which as we saw began destroying his body just by existing as soon as he was resurrected through him.
      Its easy to forget, the main purpose of the karma is really to biologically "hack" a victims body, take it over and *rewrite* them entirely so that the Otsutsuki can be recreated using their vessel's body as a starting point. Like Amado said, compatibility is unpredictable and its not widely clear- but for an "invasive" species like that its really just hit or miss whether or not the vessel survives. Jigen was compatible but unfortunately he was ultimately too weak for someone so strong.

  • @jhudge1246
    @jhudge1246 Рік тому

    Makes sense to me.

  • @iOnRX9
    @iOnRX9 Рік тому

  • @LaFarticusWinnigins
    @LaFarticusWinnigins Рік тому +1

    bro again with spoilers??? just lost a subscriber smh 😡😡😡

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому +2

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💯 thoughts?

    • @LaFarticusWinnigins
      @LaFarticusWinnigins Рік тому +1

      @@Kidomaki lmaooo i just finished the vid and honestly this is very valid. i love how you are trying to make sense of all of the loopholes in boruto. the key point you mentioned is the fact that urashiki is not the original person to bring the turtle, implying either kaguya or isshiki used it and maybe attempted to discard it? thats the only weird part… why would isshiki get rid of such a valuable piece of otsutsuki tech?

    • @Kidomaki
      @Kidomaki  Рік тому +2

      That's the major issue. It could be that he has another one. The one they found maybe belonged to kaguya. Or maybe he had a good reason to discard it.

  • @alnak-tt2ku
    @alnak-tt2ku Рік тому

    fake theory