MLK Jr. Wasn’t Who We Thought He Was | Ep 985
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- Today we’re joined by BlazeTV contributor Delano Squires to discuss social justice activists and DEI, marriage and the family, and whether or not Martin Luther King Jr. was a Christian. Did MLK believe in the bodily resurrection? If not, does this mean his work was NOT beneficial to society? Plus, South Carolina women's basketball coach Dawn Staley recently said biological men should participate in women's sports if they identify as women. But does she really believe this, and what are the implications?
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Timecodes:
00:00 Intro
01:51 Marriage and family in the black community
08:35 CRT & LGBTQ piggybacking
14:14 Dawn Staley
31:54 Was MLK a Christian?
47:15 Rush Limbaugh controversy
53:35 MLK controversies
1:01:00 Race in the Church
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Love this. I am a Bible believing Christian who happens to be black. And I am so pleased to hear this conversation. I’ve known about MLK for a very long time. Can’t say that out loud in most circles. Thanks for the episode.
I haven’t heard this before but I’m not surprised. Because they been rewriting history for a long time now. Like truth about Slavery and history about planned parenthood. We as Americans need to stand up for truth justice and love
You can't tell people that the devil divides over EVERY detail... they don't want to know
A philanderer is not living as Christ teaches. Reverends have to represent!
This is the first I’m hearing this about MLK! Why?
I like Malcolm X better because he actually changed his narrative and didn’t want to be a celebrity. MLK was more of a celebrity to many black people
I must say, as a black man, impressed with your guest today. Too many times I feel black conservative public figures are a bit too accepting of any position that white conservatives hold. Very refreshing to see a black conservative both have strong conservative positions but not be afraid to push back against white conservatives on some things as well.
I enjoyed this conversation as well. As a Christian conservative who just so happens to be black, I don’t think I have felt as “heard” as I did in this conversation.
As a white man, should I feel marginalized because you had a black guest on your show?
Or maybe as a Christian I realize colour means nothing and character means everything.
@@user-vb3nc9wn9nWhat in particular made you feel “heard”?
@makeitcount179 the more we talk and teach together the stronger the faith will grow. This whole "white church black church" thing should have been the first sign we lost our way
@ Amen !!
MLK did not believe in the virgin birth or the deity of Christ. Whether he believed in the resurrection or not is also in question based on his sermons. He wasn't a Christian.
Whether he was a Christian or not he did more for Black Americans and the world than any white Christian
He was a freemason as was his father.
@@sarahsmith5045you can be a Freemason and a Christian lol do you know what a free mason is ?
@@sarahsmith5045or are you just saying stuff you heard on UA-cam ?
Well that's because there's zero evidence of a virgin birth, resurrection, or any of the other magical claims of the bible mythology. In fact, Thomas Jefferson thought the magic and other illogical unscientific claims of the bible was so ridiculous that he literally wrote his own bible. Just sayin'.
"Identities don't compete, bodies do". Best quote ever on this subject.
Great discussion. So refreshing to witness this honest dialogue between to very intelligent people. Thank you!
As a RelataBRO… love your show… love brother Delano and you having conversations. Can’t wait till you have Pastor Voddie back on your show. Love and prayers to all of my brothers and sisters in Christ..!! ❤️🙏🏽✝️
Voddie already came on her channel a few years back ua-cam.com/video/MK4TT_6QDA8/v-deo.htmlsi=oFfa45o6s3iE6h1a
“Testosterone is not a social construct” 💯
“Pride has become the new Black”
Great quote. Delano always knocks it out the park!
"...Some of the loudest feminists have finally found a group of men they can submit to"...quote of the day right there. So true.
yeah that was just so powerful of a quote!
I love to see an intelligent, nuanced conversation on this topic 🙌🏼
Love this podcast...Allie and her guests always encourage me to keep serving my family and the kids in my community. We are in a spiritual battle and the younger generation is always the prize! Trying to accomplish the same goals with my own small podcast....speak truth, have conversation, debate idea and point people to Jesus and God's Word. Thank you for always spurring on a small town dad/church leader/servant!
Macarthur was not specifically going after MLK. He was commenting on how the organization Together for the Gospel crumbled by taking their eyes off of the one true gospel. That led to the organization honoring someone who didn't believe in that one true gospel, simply because he did some good things. There is one true gospel. Doing good things is not the gospel. When the Church makes doing good things the gospel then they have failed. MLKs work should not be celebrated by Christians as gospel work just because it was good. Likewise, Donald Trump's work should not be celebrated by Christians as gospel work just because it was good. Moral causes are not the gospel and will not save people from hell. There is one true gospel, a transformed heart by the power of Jesus.
Right? And the point about other theologians not being as criticized when they owned slaves…. There is a BIG difference between denying core tenets of the gospel and participating in slavery.
What ever MLk believed in he was more righteous than MacArthur who believes in chattel slavery and that justice is not of God
@@rembertseaward351”Whatever MLK believed”? So, I have seen enough (from MLK’s own writings) to know that if he did not change his beliefs about what he wrote, there is no way he could be a Christian. That goes for anyone, anyone who agreed with MLK doctrinal beliefs. “Believes in chattel slavery” are you saying believe that it happened? No, you already know it happened so what do you mean? That chattel slavery is a good thing? No, what you see is McArthur not wording things the way you would like.
@@rembertseaward351 I have never heard MacArthur agree to chattel slavery. You’re being slanderous, which is one of the main things this talk warned about.
@@SnowHornet furnish evidence - do you have a link to MacArthur's stance on slavery
Episodes with Delano are my favorite! So enlightening and encouraging!
I hope this gentleman has lots of children, we need more people like him in America.
I really enjoyed this Podcast. Much of what was said is really need in our current culture. We as Christians should be united by our faith not by our skin color. I can't hold another race of people to a standard that I don't hold my myself too. Thank you for this message and I look forward to your book
There is another testament of Jesus Christ! Ezekiel 37: 15- 17, Two records one for Judah and another for Joseph!
The Bible is the testament of Judah and the Book of Mormon is the testament of Joseph!
combine them in your studies of Jesus Christ!
@@scottcaley5057Repent heretic
ken ham the creation museum the human race
He's describing the Lady Ballers by The Daily Wire plot...so funny
What an absolutely enlightening episode. I really enjoyed the pace and thoughtfulness of it.
Love your podcast Allie!
Your guests are well informed, interesting, and give me much to ponder. Praise God for your much needed calling.❤
Honest question- Why is it only trans women trying to get into women's sports. I don't ever hear about trans men wanting to play professional biological men's sports like football or basketball. I feel like I know the answer to that but I guess my question is more why is no one talking about this?
I suppose my question is more rhetorical but I really wish people would talk about this more.
I don't think there's anything stopping them. The new NAIA rules explicitly state that they allow anyone to play on men's teams while only allowing cisgender women to play on women's teams (they don't allow either transgender women or transgender men who have started hormone therapy to play on women's teams).
Hi, there are trans men trying to get into mens sport, but no one cares because biological women are not fast enough or big enough to compete so their unequal ability keeps them from qualifying for mens events. I don't mean this in a disrespectful way, but mens and women bodies are different so it doesn't go both ways
Because men know they can clean house if they play in a women's league, and women know they'll get destroyed if they enter a physical thunder dome with men. Reality underpins it, much to the operation's chagrin.
Obviously, they can't compete.
Bc the actual men would mop the floor with them!
Question: If Jesus destroyed racism on the cross (which he did), why the focus on race? I have Cherokee blood in my veins, but you never hear me mention my race, because I am Christian. Is Jesus your absolute identity? If not, He should be! If we put Jesus first, all else will take its proper place (Heb. 12:1-2).
Jesus did destroy racism on the cross. Just like he destroyed sin and death. But racism, like sin and death to, still exists. Why? Because the destruction of these things won’t be fully realized until the other side of eternity.
The Bible also says there is neither Jew nor Gentile, male nor female in Christ. Does that mean that there is no difference at all between men and women? I believe everybody here would disagree with that!
I’m reminded in the early church when the Greek followers complained to the 12 Disciples about them not being given the same amount of food distribution as the Jewish followers. How did the disciples respond? Did they say “why focus on race? Your identity should be in Nesus?” No. They designated people - non Jews to be specifically in charge of the food distribution. In other words, they didn’t pretend a problem doesn’t exist. Rather, they came up with a practical solution.
@@stephenmac191Tbf race in that context was more of a national thing. It had more of a significance than what we consider as race today. Race (ethnicity/lineage) then meant you were an heir to Gods promise. The distinctions were very purposeful.
The passage you reference is in regard to Christ and his lack of partiality. It doesn’t mean that we’re not different, but it does mean that our identity in Christ transcends our race, gender, etc.
@@kamarwashington I’m sorry but I don’t buy that the race in that context was more of a national thing. So I don’t think there is much distinction to be honest. The Apostles agreed with your second paragraph. But they didn’t use that as an excuse to 1) ignore racism and prejudice and 2) to do something about it.
@@stephenmac191 A simple reading of the Old Testament makes the national distinctions clear. Also, I don’t think anyone is saying ignore racism or something. The point is that that’s not the gospel, thus it isn’t of prime importance.
We shouldn’t elevate our race above our identity in Christ, and we shouldn’t allow our views on race to ruin our theology.
I absolutely LOVE he is writing about this very IMPORTANT and NEEDED subject!!
What's so interesting is just how people are holding MLK up to a standard there are people doing similar with John McArthur. None of us should be placing anyone on a pedestal no matter how much we may agree with what they say etc. I wish more people would realize this...especially us as Christians.
Exactly !
The Gospel is not about social justice or slavery or racism! That’s not the gospel!
It's a false gospel and it needs to be called out, damn the consequences.
Few "christians" actually follow the Gospel.
@@GG-vy1oy can you enunciate what you mean by "the Gospel?"
"Slaves obey your masters"- the bible, probably.
There is another testament of Jesus Christ! Ezekiel 37: 15-17, The Bible and the Book of Mormon! get copies and study them together!
"Having a Hope in God that there shall certainly be a Resurrection of the righteous and the wicked(16)I do my best to maintain a blameless conscience before God and man" St.Luke wrote in Acts 24:15,16
Delano Squires is so level-headed, wise and well-spoken. This is a great interview. I think it's a very balanced opinion to say that no one is perfect and a person is capable of being imperfect while also doing good in the world. I had thought MLK Jr. was a Christian and whether he was or not, it cannot be said he didn't have a huge impact on the racial divide. His stand-point on race would disagree with the woke, CRT as he believed we should be judged on our character, not our skin colour.
White conservatives seem to think that being black, intelligent and well spoken are rare qualities to be found in us. Believe it or not, God did not make us black people less than. Enough of these racist assumptions that express surprise at seeing a well spoken black person; it's 2024 not 1824 🤦🏿♀️
Dr. King was a Christian. He was a Great Public Servant. The KKK was established as and still a Christian organization. The White Republicans that are trying to strip Black people of their right to vote are Christian.
I learned so much in this episode! Really loved Delano’s level headed thinking.Race conversation with Christian friends have turned very sour for me sometimes, so now I avoid them. But Delano just has the best approach to them-let look at the evidence and discuss what that reveals. Would love to see him more on the show.
I don't know if MLK was a Christian but I dont care. God is the beginning and the end of all things and I worship him. Giving the man props always acknowledging God's grace isn't wrong, worshipping him is.
I’m a lapsed Catholic that returned to the faith some years ago . I never heard of Delano before . I was impressed with his sober and balanced views .
When I say I almost chocked when he said “feminist have finally found a type of man they’ll submit too”. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm so appreciative of this particular podcast. Thank you, Bro. Delano for your leadership and clarity.
Wonderful discussion on EVERY topic!
Delano Squires explained it all so well
Thanks!
Love Delano. Great to hear from him.
What is the name of the last video referenced in the video? At 1:02:52 about someone at the sparrow conference?
Really enjoyed this today, well done.❤
Wow. Great conversation. Keep doing His work.
Love this statement “ I don’t think tearing it all down is the answer”
Great podcast!
Couldn't we say that honor given to George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, ect... should be temperd among Christians for the same reason. These were not necessarily stalwarts of Biblical orthodoxy. Much of the negative information compiled about MLK, Jr was done by Hoover's FBI. NOTHING pushed by J Edgar should be accepted at face value. That being said, MLK, Jr was a civil rights leader and not an evangelist of the Biblical Gospel of Jesus Christ.
right, but no one wants to admit that
He was a freemason as was his father.
Great conversation
I liked your guest! I think he makes a whole lot of sense and has wisdom! Cheers!
This man is cooking.
🔥Truth teller... good insight..can't wait for the book Professor D!
He had me at the theme of his new book! ❤
Insightful, thank you.
I’ve went 30 years and had no reason to believe MLK wasn’t a Christian until recently. Growing up I never heard a bad word about him unless they were racist. Racists be racist though. I distinctly remember learning in school that he was a reverend so I thought that meant he was a good person.
He was a minister.
The vast majority of people claiming that the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was not a Christian have never read any of his actual books, but are going by school papers written when he was in a liberal seminary while being given liberal works to read and analyze.
These same people have never read his book "Strength to Love," which is a collection of his sermons that tells us what he actually PREACHED to people. And if people take the time to read that book and others he has written, they will find that his Christianity should not be questioned on the basis of old school papers before he began preaching.
I know what I'm talking about, because I have several of Dr. King's books, and I see, unlike others, how he does NOT repeat or reclaim his liberal school paper claims. So let's do better research about the man, and stop judging him merely on school papers.
That's interesting, what are some the things he preached??
@@timothytakang5407 Get his book "Strength to Love," and find out.
Wow, wise words
I love Delano❤
Highly recommend reading Justin Gibboney’s article for a better understanding of his stance. Respectfully, not sure that was summarized well here. Compelling argument for what McArthur missed.
HI ALLIE
This conversation is extremely transparent 🙄
For anyone to think any of these MEN were perfect, is wild. It’s the fact that this is a conversation. And I appreciate this brother’s pushback - though I wish it was a bit more direct, I appreciate it. This is VERY transparent.. quite annoying 🙄
This man said “feminists finally found a group of men they have to submit to” 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Can Delano please get into politics?!! He’s is one of the most level-headed, thought provoking, strong men out there!!! 🇺🇸 ❤
Brothers and sisters in the Lord, don't try to argue reality without the bible, especially in the public sphere. The Bible is the book of truth, and is the only thing that we can stand on. Trying to argue the moral principles and spiritual realities of the Bible without the Bible, is like trying to preach the gospel without ever mentioning Jesus Christ.
It's the gospel that changes the person, which can change a family, which can change a community, which can change a town, we can change it, a county, which could change the state, which could change your nation. But the only true change comes through repentance and believing in the gospel of Jesus.
"Pride has become the new black." Say it, Delano!
As we navigate this issue, it is important to promote both that women’s sports are for women AND men’s sports are for men.
Please have Chad Jackson on the show; he can answer all about MLK!
Balanced thoughts. If we tried to understand ppl w/same energy as cancelling them, esp the dead we might gain wisdom & avoid corrosive pride & disdain.
This reminds me of the chain smoking tennis player who showed up and still beat one of the Williams sisters at tennis. Also the high school boys who defeated the US women's soccer team. WE AIN'T THE SAME, Y'ALL. 😅
It is a gotcha but it’s also a question that has to be asked.
- what as witnessing, has to manifest first, as so before, to show forth as to the workings that it is
Regarding transwomen, "Some feminists have finally found a man they can submit to" 🔥 🔥 🔥
Equal weights and measures are tough, ABS ironically embodied this a bit in this interview. Be careful how you judge, refuse to judge, or excuse, your heroes.
I’ve watched at least two of your podcasts which I definitely love! By the grace of God he revealed to me some true side needs to deal with. Saying that the thing about Black Lives Matter above any other color in the world I can disagree on this podcast only because I’m white, I was brought up in an all black neighborhood! Philadelphia Pennsylvania go eagles! Saying that I sympathize with the Black people because they’re always on the spotlight so I understand these types of discussions. The lower class white people experienced! The same type of abuse becoming single moms raising their children why isn’t anybody talking about that? My father beat up my mother daily she divorced him but he he came back and did it again it’s the same thing no matter what color you are❗️ I just wish that someone would do a plane interview acknowledging that every race that God allowed to be no matter what color no matter what religion goes through the exact same thing! I hope and pray that you would do an interview like that and please contact me because I would love to listen to it. And if you want to interview me that would be great I have a story. And at the end of the story is that Jesus just the way I am. I pray for your podcast I thank you for it. I understand that people will learn from it. But I do not sponsor necessarily, the things that are going on with today as if the black population because in a spotlight we need to talk about all the time. If and so it is true, but it’s because of the media. There’s so many people who have been born Americans from our ancestors who crossed over here and started America, who were abuse mentally physically and spiritually because of their faith. But Jesus saved all of us who turned to him not because of our color, not because of our race, not because of what the world was feeding into her mind, it’s all about Jesus! Coming here in a human form to save the world! I would love., If you like, if you read all the way down here to do an interview with you. I love Jesus! He saved me! I was 24 years old! Regardless of my gender identity, which all your podcasts are great the few that I just watched. I’m just amazed that you by the wheel of God have not brought on just a regular person in the world that has experienced the top news propaganda, whether it’s political race, spiritual, and just bless for me against the name of Jesus! Please I would love to be if you like no big deal cause I don’t know what God wants. But please comment and get back to me I appreciate it in Jesus name I pray amen🙏🦋❤️✝️
Delano Squires. I'm going to look him up and learn more. The man has clarity of heart n mind. He is a free man and I'm sure is accused of being a sellout because he cannot be controlled.
Enjoyed the interview and both perspectives (for the most part). So glad for his work to restore the family. But I didn't find there to be great clarity on the issue of slavery and why it is more complicated than say the issue of abortion. We can't automatically place a slave owner in the same category as one who kills a child. It wasn't just Thomas Jefferson who owned slaves but also Philemon. Philemon's salvation was not up for debate because he was a slave owner. But if he was presently killing children or walking in sexual immorality or even drunkenness, it would have been in question. American slavery had it's ultimate basis in manstealing which the Bible condemns. But I'm not sure that the Roman slavery of the New Testament didn't sometimes have similar origins. Slavery has different forms and develops over time and is definitely a nuanced subject. One of our founders said that he hated slavery but that it was a long established institution by the time he was born. There was also distinctions made between actively capturing free people versus those who had been born into slavery. There is no question the Bible undermines slavery, but not the same way that it does murder and promiscuity. It instructs believers to be obedient if they are slaves, but also instructs them to become free if possible and not become the slaves of men. However, it makes no excuses for murder or promiscuity. Though I wish the Christian West had never participated in slavery and we did so at great and just cost (including the great destructions of the Civil War), it was also the Christian West that did something unique in world history by abolishing slavery.
I appreciate this comment! There is a BIG difference between denying core tenets of the gospel and participating in slavery.
MLK was a freemason
Delono please speak the trurh and not afraid of the truth to be seen and liked.
What is Delano last name. I really enjoy this conversation.
Squires.
What a balanced dude.
His sermon on " On why did Jesus call men a fool"
This man came to understanding at end that all the theology he knew would not help him and that He needed call the Jesus for himself, and that he did
God used this man in mighty way, ams only the Holy Spirit could take this 5"6" man and his boldness to look evil in the eye and still fight not for himself and for other's
Are we all sure we are a Christian
I pray He surrender his life to Christ
I know He knew God
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You need to have Chad O Jackson on.
MLK was a preachers son and religious but was the progenitor of social engineering and the welfare state that has since run amok since his time. He focused on integration rather than self-improvement and empowering his community through faith, self-reliance and hard work. He ultimately died in vain with the black community regressing and becoming further and further left behind
I do find it interesting, even though Thomas Jefferson did inherit slaves, at that time of history, it was illegal/extremely difficult to free your slaves as he wanted to. Many people don't know that Thomas Jefferson's first draft of the Declaration of Independence as well as a State Constitution included verbiage to free all slaves. However, when it came to committee, it was not allowed to go further.
He just described the plot of Lady Ballers 😂
This is where feminism has gotten us.
I can't believe that about la leche.
- what as coming; is marriage and family, will be truly understood and built back properly within all the races nations and people As when that in the day of the Lord and that will surely soon come
He's good.
I'm sad, but not surprised, to hear La Leche League went woke. They really helped me in the early 90s.
"Let us be dissatisfied until that day, when nobody will shout 'White Power!' when nobody will shout 'Black Power!' but everybody will talk about God's power and human power!" MLK Jr.
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My ex husband's mom was one of the founding member of the La Leche League. I can only imagine what she'd be thinking about all of this Wokeness in the organization
- and as the four directions of the Cross
We don’t know for sure who are Christians that’s between them and God we can assume based on their lives if they are or not but we don’t know for sure.
It was clear that both people in the conversation was loving and careful about the topic of MLK. But The title threw me off. If it wouldof said "was MLK who we thought he was?" With the question mark. I would have watched at the beginning at ease.
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Good episode. Interesting how one man's sermon can destroy a mans reputation.
You should talk about the conflict in Iran and Israel
Google MLK's seminary papers, they're online. He attacks a biblical view of substitutionary atonement (which is the gospel) and the inerrancy of Scripture. He was an unbeliever, this is nothing new. Scripture instructs us to look at the lives of men in addition to their teaching. The apostles would never condone or treat MLK or Karl Barth as partners or legitimate teachers.
Everyone, please watch the documentary Uncle Tom II, it details MLK as a young man in college. It will explain so much to you. ♡
It's nice that you use the cross when referencing your beliefs but what happens when you use the crucifix in place of the cross..... it takes you a step closer to identifying your beliefs... have you considered this possibility and is ramifications
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Have Chad O Jackson on.
The challenge is to remember that we are all descendants from Adam and Eve and are therefore all members of the same race.
Great conversation! I think we need to go back to the Bible on this and realize that men will always mess up no matter what great things they do. I was just reading this morning about Jacob and how after he wrestled with God he went to shechem and he built an altar and called it God. That's idolatry! I had never seen that before. And then when you think about what happened at Shecham after that... Wow. So yeah, the Bible shows us again and again that our heroes are not men. There is only one true hero...God!
ESPN fired Rush Limbaugh for saying, "McNabb is a good quarterback." They wanted Rush to say McNabb was the greatest quarterback to ever play football in the history of the world.
Rush was fired because he said the sports world wanted a black quarterback to be the best "just" because he was black.... or something like that...........he was wrongly fired, he was also correct in his assessment
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