Zach I appreciate the way you present this information in your videos. "What works best for me right now" and your willingness to look at new ideas and implement them. Thanks for being a part of advancing and sharing knowledge in our sport.
Another great video. A little tip to make your coiling easier is to start from the end of the rope that is attached to the boat instead of the loose end. This will allow the rope to untwist itself as you coil, making things neater and easier to manage. I love the second method you showed. I carried this method over from sailing where we use it for the ability to rapidly release the line when we need it. It can have difficulty staying in place if used with a very smooth and clean line as you bounce through the rapids, so choose your rope wisely. Otherwise, I think it is a great method, especially with cold hands or gloves because it requires less dexterity to release when needed. Keep up the good work.
I've used the elbow coil as you showed for years, Zach. One small comment I have is to start at the end tied to the boat, rather than the distal end. This way any twists that may occur get kind of released as you get to the end. Then finish with a bite like you did and it's all good. As always, great video! Thanks.
Been enjoying you videos Zach, thanks for taking the time to produce them. I use 1/2 tubular webbing for a bow line. It lays very small and tight when you pass it under the perimeter line.
Zach - it's just practice/which leads to muscle memory, and then it's automatic. I've shown the "over/under" to countless folks (with hoses, cords and rope) and their eyes just glaze over - but a bit of practice and it just becomes automatic (like anything). And as many others have said: THANKS for your skill and knowledge, tempered with openness and humility! @@GearGarageTV
While some folks don't like perimeter lines, my wife and I really dislike bow lines. We just see a sign that says, "entrap me." I played around with all sorts of coiling methods including daisy chains. NRS bow line bag or bust! Much cleaner. I guess if you are a glass half empty sort of person, the way for currently have it attached you can't toss the line to shore for those hot entry eddies. However, I just got it this fall (used in a few trips), and it's use/attachment is a work in progress. It is however a clean lines principle and I won't be going back to a loose bow line. No more bow line entanglement/entrapment.
I really like attaching my stern line with a barrel knot, really small and no chance of it getting stuck on anything. Also as for dual D rings, you are right that you will be creating exponentially more force on your D-rings if you attach both with a single fig-8, if you would like redundancy, you can always tie a bunny ears 8 or bunny ears bowline which will eliminate any worry about the vector forces.
Couldnt ya just give yourself more slack to wrap around the bow line and completely encircle it and leave just a small opening to slip the bite through? That would still follow the clean line principle as there wouldn't be a loop large enough to slip a body part through...provided someone isn't peeing of the side of the boat lol
Zach I appreciate the way you present this information in your videos. "What works best for me right now" and your willingness to look at new ideas and implement them. Thanks for being a part of advancing and sharing knowledge in our sport.
I’m so happy to hear you’re enjoying the videos
Loyal fan. Thanks for all the great info. I keep coming back.
I’m glad to hear you like the show!
great videos. Probably the only one on youtube doing stuff like this. Cheers
Another great video. A little tip to make your coiling easier is to start from the end of the rope that is attached to the boat instead of the loose end. This will allow the rope to untwist itself as you coil, making things neater and easier to manage. I love the second method you showed. I carried this method over from sailing where we use it for the ability to rapidly release the line when we need it. It can have difficulty staying in place if used with a very smooth and clean line as you bounce through the rapids, so choose your rope wisely. Otherwise, I think it is a great method, especially with cold hands or gloves because it requires less dexterity to release when needed. Keep up the good work.
Great suggestions - thank you so much
This is what i would suggest as well
I've used the clean line bow line storage for 18 years. Easy to use and teach your boat riders.
I've used the elbow coil as you showed for years, Zach. One small comment I have is to start at the end tied to the boat, rather than the distal end. This way any twists that may occur get kind of released as you get to the end. Then finish with a bite like you did and it's all good.
As always, great video! Thanks.
Great suggestion. Thank you.
Been enjoying you videos Zach, thanks for taking the time to produce them. I use 1/2 tubular webbing for a bow line. It lays very small and tight when you pass it under the perimeter line.
I use the "over-under" coil method for rope (and extension cords and hoses). Super clean. Also called a gaffers coil. You can sesrch UA-cam for this.
Awesome suggestion. I've been shown that coil before but never remember how to do it. It's time to start using it more.
Zach - it's just practice/which leads to muscle memory, and then it's automatic. I've shown the "over/under" to countless folks (with hoses, cords and rope) and their eyes just glaze over - but a bit of practice and it just becomes automatic (like anything). And as many others have said: THANKS for your skill and knowledge, tempered with openness and humility!
@@GearGarageTV
While some folks don't like perimeter lines, my wife and I really dislike bow lines. We just see a sign that says, "entrap me." I played around with all sorts of coiling methods including daisy chains. NRS bow line bag or bust! Much cleaner. I guess if you are a glass half empty sort of person, the way for currently have it attached you can't toss the line to shore for those hot entry eddies. However, I just got it this fall (used in a few trips), and it's use/attachment is a work in progress. It is however a clean lines principle and I won't be going back to a loose bow line. No more bow line entanglement/entrapment.
Great suggestions. Thanks!
I really like attaching my stern line with a barrel knot, really small and no chance of it getting stuck on anything. Also as for dual D rings, you are right that you will be creating exponentially more force on your D-rings if you attach both with a single fig-8, if you would like redundancy, you can always tie a bunny ears 8 or bunny ears bowline which will eliminate any worry about the vector forces.
I use a 25 foot rope that quickly stuffs into a bag which clips onto the front of the boat. No exposed loops and it is quick.
I definitely prefer your 2nd option... especially its quick on a emergency stop on a fast flowing river where you as a guide have to be quick...!
Couldnt ya just give yourself more slack to wrap around the bow line and completely encircle it and leave just a small opening to slip the bite through? That would still follow the clean line principle as there wouldn't be a loop large enough to slip a body part through...provided someone isn't peeing of the side of the boat lol
If you’re going to buy the sterling rope, buy it straight from them. Avoid Amazon. Sterling is a 100% American brand, based in Biddeford, Maine.
Great point
Northwest Rafting Company Amazon is one of the great evils of our day. Don’t give Jeff Bezos another penny.
Zach! You got downvoted. It musta been a “raft guide”.