David Schloen | In the Wake of the Phoenicians: Makers of the Mediterranean
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- Опубліковано 3 лис 2020
- Presented by David Schloen, OI
From olive oil to the alphabet, the Phoenicians left a lasting mark on the Mediterranean. The OI's David Schloen guides us through exciting new research into this ancient civilization and anticipates future excavations of Phoenician colonies in coastal Spain.
In the Wake of the Phoenicians: Makers of the Mediterranean
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You left the important colony of Malta! The Phoenicians settled in Malta around the year 700 B.C. They were creative merchants, expert seafarers and adventurous explorers. They used the Maltese islands as a stop on their trade routes. They built a Punic temple to Astarte at Tas-Silg site incorporating upstanding remains of an earlier prehistoric temple.
This is a good point as Malta has an extensive rich history
HINT: The Maltese Falcon symbol was worn by Chistbol Colon, aka Christopher Columbus, aka Salvadore Fernando Zarco. Since the Knights were abolished, they became the Knights of Christ in Portugal, for one. They merged with Vatican Jesuits and, in recent times all merged with secret societies. Research will explain their language and, upon becoming Pirates of the seas.
Zhunjunga Costello Christbol Colon being a Jew wouldn’t have been accepted in the order. The Genovese bankers never claimed him was visiting the Crown of Aragon, the letters to his family are in ladrido, and the beneficiary of his will was a synagogue.
He's a Tribe Member, thus calling the Phoenicians Canaanites... How could you listen to this Bigot?
the netherlands wants zNexit.
From Lebanon 🇱🇧 thank you for this great lecture 🙏🏼
Hello my friend. I send my love and prayers to the people of Lebanon.
Kudos to the Oriental Institute for keeping things going despite the unusual circumstances. I enjoyed learning more about the Phoenicians!
I belong to a community located in south india known as " kananites". We are believed to have migrated from the Mediterranean coast. We practice endogamy. The leader of our ancient migration is believed to be a merchant named "Thomman kinan"
The Lebanese are traders to this day. All over the planet. This is great!
Much better than a competing video on YT; this man is a good public speaker, very fluent and fluid in his language; a great improvement.
i’m pretty sure he used the opportunity and prerecorded it. at one point he repeats himself verbatim, which i doubt would have happened live. not to detract from this great talk, just to say i wouldn’t compare it to live-on-stage presentations in that way.
@@derDooFi Good point. As an Occasional Public Speaker myself, I know how the presence of an audience can sharpen one's presentation.
I’m a self taught scholar of Phoenician history and happen to be of Phoenician ancestry. This video is extremely informative, well researched and well delivered and certainly adds to my knowledge on the subject. Thank you profoundly.
It was good, but he didn't mention genetics. The Canaanites, and especially the Phoenicians were white. They were Levantine/Caucasian. This is important because a lot of people try to appropriate our Phoenician heritage, including Black Nationalists.
This has been an extraordinary experience for me. Thank you for putting this on UA-cam! I so appreciate this!
Hello Arielle, we are glad that you enjoyed this lecture! I hope it inspires you to check out more of the lectures offered on our channel.
Excellent - far beyond the norm for detailed and coherent description. Kudos to UC, OI, and Professor David Schloen (& co). It is vital that fine Universities, like UC, bring such credible, evidence based knowledge to the general public. The noise to signal ration in this age has obviously exploded, doing the opposite. As a Emeritus of UBC in Vancouver I offer my personal and professional thanks.
Magnificent talk! Thanks The Oriental Institute for sharing the lecture worldwide!
Many thanks for making these lectures available. I thoroughly enjoyed this lecture.
I got here 8 months late since I'm so curious about many subjects. 😃 Excellent presentation under such adverse circumstances @OI. I understand more now than I did before watching, so great teaching! Thank you.
I agree
I just listened to the podcast and am now watching this. Excellent, thank you so much OI.
Phenomenal talk, thank you! Great overview, exactly what I was looking for
Thank you for the many lectures over many different subjects, time and cultures.
Thank you for watching!
Great talk !!! a lot of information, thank you very much !!
Archaeologists have found evidence that the Phoenicians lived not only in Spain, but also in the west direction, in the Algarve, the south of Portugal.
He talked about silver being the focus but I usually hear that copper was the main reason.
This is really enjoyable during a break in an otherwise tough day. Thank you!
This is an excellent lecture. I learned some new and very important facts regarding the Phoenicians. My first field school was at Tel Akko in 1982 under Moshe Dotan and Michal Artzy, and I’ve been extremely interested in the archaeology of the Phoenicians ever since. Thank you for posting this, I will check out an OI membership now. By the way, my youngest son graduated from UC with an anthropology degree in 2012.
Phoenicians were black ethiopians please be careful my friend. No debate I can do this all year.
As an archeology enthusiast, I really admire and appreciate that you are sharing these precious and interesting lectures on UA-cam. I follow your videos and enjoy them a lot!
Me too, as a historian.
Me too
i love it!!
Thank you. Great knowledge.
Great lecture!
Thank you.
great stuff. keep it coming, please.
Thank you for sharing Sir.
Anybody noticed the resemblance and the similarities between the ancient island city-state of Tyre, which had a powerful maritime empire, and the modern island nation-state of great Britain, which has been a great maritime and sea power for centuries?
Great talk! really enjoyed this one
The great French writer Colette (first woman writer to be honoured by the Academie Francaise) was originally named "Sidonie" - from Sidon. The name is regaining popularity, as indeed are the Phoenicians, those elusive, talented, brilliant merchants, quintessential mediterraneans.
Thank you Mr. Woods!
What a great presentation!! Some small thoughts that i made. First of all names including the name of the god Baal seem to have been quite popular in Carthage , like Hannibal or Hasdrubal .
Second, in Ancient Greek mythology the presence of Phoenicians is significant. Kadmos, a Phoenician is said to have founded the historical city of Thebes in Greece.
The name Europe is according to the Greeks a Phoenician name.
So , modern civilization ows a lot tp the Phoenicians. And it is rather ironic that the continent which would become the main Roman powerbase bears a Phoenician name.
Thank you once again for this excellent presentation.
Για την λέξη Ευρώπη είναι καθαρά ελληνική ψάξε ετυμολογία Οι Φοίνικες ήταν πιο κοντά στους Έλληνες από οποιονδήποτε άλλον λαό και οι αρχαίοι Έλληνες θεωρούσαν τους Φοίνικες και τους Τρώες ελληνικά φύλα!
Ακόμη και η λέξη Φοίνιξ είναι ελληνική!Όλα τα ελληνικά ονόματα όσο αρχαία και αν είναι εχουν ετυμολογία και εξήγηση στα ελληνικά! Επίσης άκουσα Ισραήλ και Τουρκία λαοί που ήταν άγνωστοι στους αρχαίους Έλληνες της εποχής Καταλαβαίνω τους Δυτικούς και όχι μονο επιστήμονες να μην γνωρίζουν πολλά για την αρχαιότητα των Ελλήνων από την νεολιθική και εποχή του Χαλκού Αλλά εμείς πρέπει να τους δείξουμε το λάθος ή (?) Πρέπει όλοι οι επιστήμονες να μην φοβούνται να μιλήσουν και να χρησιμοποιήσουν όλα τα επιστημονικά δεδομένα όπως πχ DNA!
After watching the presentation for a second time, I would say that you answered your own question about the settlements of Cerro del Villar and Malaka. The trade for minerals was established at Gadiz and the eastern coastline was much more fertile for the development of the vines and olive cultivation. It takes many decades for the roots to be productive and they have to be nurtured for a steady viable crop. Hence some generations of farmers would have to reside in the area before this commodity could be profitable. The Phoenicians would have to establish a settled colony before the wine and oil could be harvested. That would also need skilled workers for the production, no doubt transferred from the Sardinia colony.
Cadiz and was originally a Frisian port and colony. From "The Oera Linda". It's absolutely ridiculous to assert that these people had no contact before the bronze age.
I often think about how amazingly long lasting the "primitive" clay tablets turned out to be, and I wonder what archeological records our post-modern human civilization will leave for the next millennia. Cell phones, computers, hard drives and flash memory is mostly what we are leaving behind! Paper ink disappears and buried paper won't be retrievable!
it depends on the environment where paper is buried. In so-called "wet layers" of soil (you can check one in Velikiy Novgorod in Russia or in Vindolanda (Britain)) organic materials are well-preserved. the same is for dry climate, as in Egypt and permafrost (check Scythians early burials in Altai mountains). So paper may survive there.
@@kirasokolovskaia7524
That is good to know! Fingers crossed, let's check back in 2000 years :D
W U right! See you then)
Don't forget L Ron Hubbard's teachings, "engraved on stainless steel tablets and encased in titanium capsules underground" (source, wiki page for Trementina Base).
Future archaeologists will think we were all crazy idiots. Maybe that's not so far off.
@HebaruSan
Facepalm, if anything is to be passed on by the current humans with that much passion, I would have hoped it would be anything but scientology.
grazie per il suo lavoro ...vivo in Sardegna e a volte sono stupito da quanto sia restato il segno di questi popoli
I love hearing about ancient writing. The Sumerians and Akkadians had it right it seems by recording on clay.
Well, a simcard or a DVD will not be much good to archeologists 3000 years ahead.
Clay was much cheaper than papyrus that had to be grown and processed.
Clay makes little sense when you need to limit weight and space, - like on ships or other voyages.
Check out the new finding of the Mt Ebal led curse tablet for the earliest proto-Hebrew, from the bronze age, about 1200-1300 B.C.
@@fredriks5090Unbaked clay was easily recycled. Just drop it into water. No need to grow or laboriously process clay to reuse it.
Pour the slip onto a flat surface and let evaporation give you fresh sheets of writing material. Really thin sheets could be baked to preserve but would need be handled delicately. To avoid breakage.
If made to uniform thickness, those sheets could be used as tiles later.
@@fredriks5090 The weight and mass of clay tablets make excellent points to demonstrate why the farflung trade routes of cargo transporters preferred papyrus.
I had not really thought that out.
Plus, unbaked clay readily dissolves when wet.
Thanks for the lecture!
Best presentation on the Phoenicians I've seen! Thank you. Was hoping for a Q&A session. My question is what evidence, if any, exists for the Phoenicians venturing beyond the Med, such as down the west coast of Africa or across to the Americas.
Yes, my thoughts exactly. Thank you for having a broader channel to tell things the way they are. One point, though. I have got the idea that there is a parallel between the Canaanites and Isrealites on the one hand and Franks and Saxons on the other hand concerning religious diffusion (empirically)
A fiction book-The first traders-Myth of Panis, based on myth mentioned in Rigved is available on Amazon book. An interesting book
Thank you
History was written by the conquerors. This lecture helped me to pull back the curtain and add the Canaanites and Phoenicians to my understanding of Biblical and other portrayals of this time. It is a monumental piece of the puzzle being explored.
Also, the Phoenicians weren't conquered until the Roman Era. They were a great people. And they would have looked like modern day Lebanese people--white/tan.
The idea of Phoenicia as a single Tyrian Kingdom isnt something Ive heard before. Interesting
Tyre was dominent.
He keeps referring to "ancient Hebrew texts" like it's a real thing instead of poor plagiarisms of a dozen older religions and texts that don't even show up in historic record until Rome controlled Palestine. Dood's over a thousand years off and brainwashed with religious indoctrination.
@@moodist1er That’s big talk from someone who can’t spell “Dude.” The prof explains clearly that scholars mainly use Egyptian, Hebrew, and Greek sources because there aren’t nearly as many Canaanite sources available. Every culture builds on previous cultures. And the Hebrew texts he mentions far pre-date the Roman occupation of the area (which the Romans renamed Syria Palestina). Also, the term “Israel” is used to describe the kingdom by the ancient Assyrians in a war text, independent of Hebrew texts and centuries prior to Alexander, let alone the Romans. So I guess it depends on how you cherry pick your “historic record.” BTW I notice you don’t critique his use of Greek or Egyptian sources, which also built on more ancient cultural traditions. Or critique the academic world’s use of the Greek name “Phoenicia” rather than the names the peoples of Canaan called themselves. There’s a difference between the way contemporary scholars use ancient sources and the way religious apologists do, even if they reference the same sources. BTW there’s a strong contingent of archaeologists, linguists, and other scholars who assert that the ancient Israelites were a group that originated in Canaan, who escaped the general collapse of the Canaanite cities and settled in the central highlands of the area, away from the coast. Or are you too blinded by bigotry to care?
@@Historian212 The Assyrians didn't use the name Israel at all. Go look it up. Scholars use the name Israel because its more famous
@@moodist1er Okay but the fact that the Bible contains mythology isn't an end-all to discussion. It also contains historical events that we can cross-check with records in Babylon, Assyria, Egypt, etc and confirm happened. It's not absurd to look at the Biblical accounts of Phonecia, their closest neighbor and frequent ally, and try to sift out some truth. Certainly it shouldn't be taken as absolute though. As with any Iron Age record (or any other period for that matter), the more attestation you can find from different groups, the beter.
People have this weird hangup where they want to throw EVERY part of the Bible out because it's religious and has obvious myths. Like...okay... but then we have to throw out literally ALL writings from ALL cultures. Because they were ALL religious and wrote down myths. The goal is to sort the fact from fiction.
Thanks for the talk on the Phoenicians, it was very insightful.
By the way, by minute 36:28 it was mentioned that TeL is an Arabic name for the ruin mound. Actually תל TeL is also an ancient Hebrew word meaning mound, heap, heap of ruins. It is also found in the city name Tel Aviv.
hebrew, phoenician, similar languages
It is in both languages
It is also in Irish as Tullaċ meaning hill, mound; as in Tullaċ Mór - Tullamore, great hill.
I am pursuing the idea that they traveled much further north and opened trade with Ireland and Britain in tin and copper. Perhaps the eventual settlement of southern Spain was developed as a stopping off point for repairs and replenishing food and water supplies before returning to the east.
That would have been Tarshish.
I was under that impression as well
They definitely did.
Awesome video
Thank you! Amazing to see how the Phoenicians taught the Greeks and the Levantine tribes to write!
And Osiris/Thoth taught the Egyptians how to write.
Osiris and Thoth both being aquatic/birdlike beings that came from sunken lands.
The high seas have always been a source of well-trained, well educated, and sound-of-mind sailors.
We had already the Mycenaean ND Minoan linea a -b my friend.the foinician was more easy.thanks the foinicians about the alphabet but we had we own....,😉😉
@@iwannalavassa5501 Maybe there is still a Phoenician that can teach you how to write ...
If the Phoenicians taught the Grreeks as you say how come everything of today's civilization is based on Greek only and actually nothing from the Phoenicians.
All of todays terminology comes from the Greek language not from the Phoenicians.
All you are trying to do is to discredit the Greek contribution without any historical evidence but only with personal assumptions.
Also the Phoenicians alphabet did not have any vowels which makes it completely ueless and impractical.
@@AKRITAS365 Oops, Arabic alphabet doesn't have vowels. Also useless?
@44:00 The local Tartessian’s people PREFERRED to trade with the Greeks and when the Greeks started a colony on the mediterranean side the Phoenicians did likewise to disrupt the Greeks.
Excellent presentation. Thank you so much, in this challenging time it's wonderful to watch and learn from dedicated professionals. I have questions regarding the Iberian contacts which I'd love to discuss.
@35 that is not what archeology shows temples to look like. That's a huge building, archeology shows temples the size of broom closets.
Can anyone suggest a good lay history of the Phoenicians? Having watched this, I think I want to know a lot more about them.
Robert Sepehr...no better can be attained by other means.
Perhaps you would enjoy something by author Sanford Holst. 'Phoenicians' - Lebanon's Epic Heritage.
@@barbaratimmons5510 , R N, thank you both. I’ll check out both these books.
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Thank you for the lecture. I thought the Phoenicians dated back to pre 4th mellinium ( mainly Byblos) and was even responsible for the advancement of the Minoian civilization in the 3rd millinium.
Ugarit
"Kalvabeite" means Calfpasture (calf-chewing/biting) in Norwegian referring to where young calves would first be placed securely before being let loose among the herd.
And a "pasture" is usually a small lot surrouded by stone-walls constructed from the stones that slowly work their way up through the soil.
So you could say that each letter of the Alphabet represents a particular shape of your mouth (constructed pasture) and how your tongue (calf) is situated within it.
This theory also makes for an intuitive bridge from pictoral language into Alpabetical language.
Odin (Wotan-az, "waterbird") is a version of Thoth and would be the SAME source as where the phoenecians got their language.
My only comment on Prof. Schloen's presentation is that the Phoenician alphabet is an adaptation to the Canaanite phonology of the famous Linear B script of the Greeks (brought by the Sea Peoples - Achaeans and Philistines), dying purple in addition to the Minoan time technique) and the cult of the mother goddess (Gaia - Asherah) .
This is NOT true. Clearly, the Proto-Canaanite/Proto-Sinaitic alphabet is an adaptation of the Egyptian hieroglyphics. The Phoenician alphabet was developed from there. Then it was passed to the Greeks.
I would prefer if every location discussed is shown on the accompanying map slides. In one of the early slides, for example, Sidon is discussed, but not shown on the map he is showing. This is a standard in science writing, all locations discussed must be shown on the map.
Where is Ugarit in your account? Your maps all seem to stop just south of the site. But we have several Ugaritic libraries, and know quite a lot about their society. Seems to me that Ugaritic seafarers would have had good motivation to travel when their city was destroyed. Ugarit was the terminus of the silk route, and the nearest Canaanite city to Cyprus. It was the interface with the Hittites (Hatta).
Having studied the Phoenician exodus from the Levant to Carthage, I have yet to read/hear any definitive explanation of what was the final straw that drove them out of the Levant for good. Was it the Babylonians, Persians or Alexander the Great? Inquiring minds would like to know and get past the confusing conjecture.
A comet.
They were NEVER driven out of the Levant. I'm Lebanese. Here we are. Genetically confirmed as well.
Excellent presentation but Minoan and Greek Mycenean colonization of the Mediterranian sea , predates for about 6-7 centuries the Phoenician colonization.
The Phoenicians formed the Mediterranean as we know it today, because of their alphabet and trading network. Indeed they built the foundation of the western world.
"... _tell_ being the Arabic for the ruin-mound." I must admit I'd thought of _tell_ in Arabic as 'hill', though it obviously means 'ruin-mound' as a technical archaeological term in _English._ Well, here's Lane (who tells us that _talla_ means 'to throw down'):
Quote: تَلٌّ, accord. to Lth, [and accord. to general present usage,] *A mound, or hill, of dust, or earth, [or rubbish,] pressed together, not natural:* but this is a mistake [if meant as an explanation of the proper application], for with the Arabs it signifies *a natural hill:* En-Nadr says that it is of the smaller sort of إِكَام [pl. of أَكَمَةٌ]; it is of the height of a house, or tent, and the breadth of its back is about ten cubits; it is smaller than the أَكَمَة, has fewer stones, gives growth to nothing good, and its stones are compacted together exactly like those of the أَكَمَة: (T:) [the mound, or artificial hill, above mentioned, is what is meant by its being said,] the تَلّ of dust, or earth, is well known: and the word signifies also a heap of sand: (M, K:*) in both of these senses from التَّلُّ signifying “ the throwing upon the ground” anything of a corporeal kind: (M:) also *a hill (M, K, TA) overtopping what is adjacent to it:* (TA:) pl. [of pauc.] أَتْلَالٌ (M, TA) and أَتُلٌّ (TA) and [of mult.] تِلَالٌ (T, S, Msb, K) and تُلُولٌ. (TA.) A2: Also *A pillow:* pl. أَتْلَالٌ, which is extr.: or the pl. signifies certain sorts of cloths, or of garments: (K, TA:) or, as some say, of pillows. (TA.) تَلَّةٌ [inf. n. un. of 1, by Golius erroneously written تُلَّةٌ, and wrongly explained by him,] *A single act of pouring [&c.].* (T, K.) B2: *A single act of lying upon the side.* (K.) A2: See also تَلْتَلَةٌ.
That sounds to me like the English "mound" in general.
They found in ugarit
Even the older song
thanks!
Crete and other Greek Islands and The Continental South Greece ... Turkey ( The Hittite Empire ) all were Phoenisian Colonies ...
The intro is way too long and has absolutely terrible audio quality. There would be two ways to fix that :P
The talk itself was great. And it sounded far better.
The Phoenicians are indeed the missing link in our modern civilizations...yet very present and alive till this day....by d Way Hebrew and Arabic even by language are very similar to Phoenician... Many words used today in Both languages is totally Phoenician... Best = house,,, tel = hill ,, etc many of which still exist as is in d Lebanese dialect today🥂🇱🇧
The Canaanite Colonization Of The Mediterrenean Was During The Beging of The 2d Millenium or maybe Before ...
Who Were The Dorians " Dor City in Canaan " , Myceneans " Achaens From Akko City in Palestine " , Pelest " From Gaza " , etc ... All WERE Phoenician Colonizers In Greece , Crete , Sardinian , Cyprus , and Even Italy with The Etruscan from " Tyre in Lebanon " ...
Phoenicia's influence is certainly remarkable. However, its influence on ancient Hebrew culture is exaggerated here. Recent archaeological findings such as the Mt Ebel led curse tablet are examples of how the Hebrew developed otherwise.
It is also curious that a significant omission is that a key used to determine if an archaeological site is Phoenician in origin is the presence of massive graves from infant sacrifice. This typical practice of Phoenicia was abhorrent to the Jewish religion.
So the Tabernacle is Canaanite architecture?
The Cimmerians probably came to Phoenicia 800 BCE and showed up in Jutland in Denmark later, togeather with Dan and Gat that also settled in Scania and Zealand. Maybe Dan and Gat came earlier because the germanic tribes settled around this time. Geates in Sweden and probably Jutland because we call these people Götar (Jötar) and Jutar in Swedish. We also have Jutenheimen in Norway. (the home of the jutes). We also call Jews Judar. Very close words altogeather.
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The minute 28:40 … and Aramian ….the difference between Lebanese and Syrian
The Greek alphabet was based on the Phoenician alphabet which, in turn, was based on Egyptian hieroglyphs.
The Phoenicians alphabet did not have any vowels like the Greek alphabet did.
Which makes it completely impractical without the use of vowels.
"based on the hieroglyphics" while technically correct, misses the detail that it was an immense leap forward.
@@AKRITAS365 Desperate . Greek.
Portugal is not on your map and yet the reach of the Phoenicians was as far as the southern coast of Portugal. You show only Spain. Portugal is the little country on the left of Spain.
Phoenicians took what the others left
After the fall
Why is he excavating everywhere except for lebanon??
Well organized lecture but nothing New!
You have forgotten the Isles with archeology proof
Now also show dna matching up with Isreali peoples and the ancient map of the tribe of Asher over Phoenician area
Foinix were called the real ones
What is the reasoning behind the claim that the Phoenicians introduced the alphabet to the Israelites and not the other way around. I was under the impression that the alphabet developed and migrated northward by being passed by adjacent cultures from the Sinai up to Lebanon.
It can not be true what you are saying.
@@dannyelkassis1466 Why not? It’s a question. My question can’t be true?
@@Emcee_Squared Because the Alphabet has meaning in the Phoenician language/ for example, Samekh is the S which mean fish - Daleth which is the D mean door - Bet which is the B means Home .....so every letter has a meaning. for this it must be Phoenician.
@@dannyelkassis1466 but the same is true for hebrew and even Egyptian. So this proof you have given is false.
@@dannyelkassis1466 this video explains how the alphabet evolved. ua-cam.com/video/3kGuN8WIGNc/v-deo.html
We are the tribe Asher
Asher ? What does it means ? I'm curious ...
@@project.anubis the one's whom turned away against yahweh is God the lord of host the God of Israel we turned our hearts to idles sailed away from Israel.
Christ will return us home to the new promise land. He will carry us home like wings of an eagle. Declares God
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Very good lecture. But he didn't mention genetics. The Canaanites, and especially the Phoenicians were white. They were Levantine/Caucasian. This is important because a lot of people try to appropriate our Phoenician heritage, including Black Nationalists.
Except no archaeological evidence of mythical David or Solomon!!
David's name appears on a military stele circa 800 BC as the founder of a dynasty allied with Israel (Judah not specified)
Solomon, you are correct, is unattested by early, non-Biblical sources
The oldest cities in Italy and Europe are the Phoenicians one.
@6:20!?! Please site your source, because you’re the first to claim that Sicily was inhabited by the Phoenicians instead of the Greeks.
Both colonized Sicily and even fought over it.
Didnt the phonecians have two alphabets? One for common use, and one for business transactions. They did this so foreign people could not understand their money dealings.
You mean jut like the Former yugoslavias Bulgarians monkeydonians
Who insist that the ancient Macedonians had two languages but did nobody use it during Alexander's expedition who spread only the Hellenic culture.
Commuunst propaganda at itts best.
In 2020 you are talking about origins without any reference to DNA evidence? A good presentation that could have been made in 1990, no? Also, Carthage was carefully sacked and many books went to roman libraries, but the Phoenicians were highly secretive, to preserve trading advantages. They did not have the literary ethic of the greeks or romans, probably for this reason, no? The alphabet was a means of business for them.
Scholars could decipher the Phoenician alphabet through the Rosetta Stone of Malta. The Cippi of Malta Offers Key to Decoding the Phoenician Language
Stop saying inaccuracies: They only had consonants thus no alphabet. The Greeks had both consonants and vowels long before it is now commonly accepted.
The breakthrough is the use of a system of writing that is simple and relies on limited symbols that are combined based on how the word sounds. Thats the big leap. All of a sudden, people didn't have to memorize hundreds of symbols to learn to read and write which becomes a far more accessible skill. The addition of vowels changes little by comparison.
The Poenicians were shuttling to Cornwall in England for tin. No Bronze age without tin.
He says here they got to Cadiz around 900 ad!! Not good history at all.
I think alot of archeology has been waylayed into false interpretations that obstruct the real narratives.I love archwolgy and history etc and I think there really is a need for a re think on how it is interpreted.
NB: The Phoenicians did a great job of their homeland, while we, the modern Lebanese, ruined it.
I just found that his use for the bible as a historical fact and some of its characters as real, while this is still up for debate and most likely not true, is biased and unethical..
Cheek the Alfabet in Albenian,
The Alfabet of Elbasan,
Dhaskal Todri, Alfabet, is the saem with this Alfabet, Foenic,
Phoenicians are Lebanese from Lebanon
I think civil freedom caused the bronze age collapse. Wilderness freedom and civil freedom are quite different.
archeology should not be about trying to prove the bible or your religion is "accurate" and that patriarchy is the only form of existence
The phoenicians left no culture. No one has adopted their alphabet except for the greeks! That means something. Because they were just traders and sacrificed children
Well they worked bloody hard while being 'just traders' as you say. They built the Temple of Salomon, they invented glass, modular ship-building. The silver Shekels used in the second temple were minted in the city of Tyre. They discovered Africa and the word 'Gorilla' is actually Phoenician. They founded Cadiz, Sevilla, Barcelona, Palermo, Lisbon... They indeed gave the Alphabet to the Hebrews, the Iberians and to the Greeks who later passed it on to the Romans and the Vikings etc. So as you can see, we would not have the pleasure to read your interesting words without the Phoenicians. But I take it your specialty is rather the times of the dinosaurs...
@@mago9450 what do you find so special about it. They didn't found any cities just commercial branch which later became cities. Glass invented the Egyptians, coins the Lydiens. They adopted the script from Ugarit. And their other discoveries have only been revealed today. So no culture transfer. And the most important, they sacrificed children!
@@tyranosaurusrex8781 I regret to say your account has zero credibility. You don't even know that Gaius Plinius Secundus (AD 23/24 - 79), called Pliny the Elder detailed how the Phoenicians invented glasswork and that Phoenician cities were manufacturing glassware to the whole Mediterranean. You don't even know that today in Sarafand, Lebanon (old Sarepta), there is still glassware manufacturing based on traditional Phoenician techniques... People get educated before writing.
@@mago9450 Ok let them invent glass although controversial, but that's not culture yet
@@tyranosaurusrex8781 well I suggest you first go and learn what the word 'Culture' means and maybe we can educate you with that as well.
The Phoenisians Are The Canaanites ... All The Syrian Coast from Gaza South in Palestine ( Not Israel ) till The Northern Syrian Coast ... They Are The Same Nation ... Phoenicians is Their Greek Name ...
Phoenicia is Lebanon.
AMAZING. ....AMAZING but hidden that the phoenicians were black ethiopian people. They began carthage and we fully know of carthage. Beautiful hidden history.
Everyone knows that the letters are of Hebrew origin, not Canaanite. Why is this fact hidden these days?
Because Hebrews are part of Canaanite.
@@project.anubis ,
NO, they aren't. Canaanites came from Ham and Hebrews from Shim.