James Osborne | The Syro-Anatolian City States: A Neglected Iron Age Culture

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  • Опубліковано 19 гру 2024

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  • @SethF0
    @SethF0 8 років тому +44

    I thoroughly enjoyed! I can't believe Dr Osborne was a last minute replacement. He's got some prime time stuff!

  • @Ashur-Uballit-lll
    @Ashur-Uballit-lll 3 роки тому +7

    I am a proud Assyrian and enjoy seeing people learning my culture

  • @joshuarosen6242
    @joshuarosen6242 7 років тому +20

    The basalt lion was absolutely beautiful. It looked in an almost perfect state of preservation and the expressive skill of the sculptor is breathtaking.

  • @Ss-tt9pp
    @Ss-tt9pp 3 роки тому +6

    Its astounding how this channel has only 45k subscribers.. Amazing work people.. Keep doing your good work

  • @markvincent522
    @markvincent522 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much for uploading all of these lectures!

  • @MrAlcidas
    @MrAlcidas 8 років тому +8

    Excellent lecture about a poorly-understood and long-neglected topic. Thank you for posting this!

  • @avtaras
    @avtaras Рік тому +1

    14:04 That’s very interesting, reminds me of Philistines. Could it be that after all Patini comes from Palastini / Peleset / Philistines? Were the Patini a northern offshoot of Philistines, and did they have alliance with David’s Kingdom of Judah against the Damascene Arameans?

  • @seamusoluasigh9296
    @seamusoluasigh9296 2 роки тому

    Excellent presentation. I've gathered some of this from my own reading over the years and it's wonderful to see it confirmed and greatly expanded.

  • @AndyM_323YYY
    @AndyM_323YYY 7 років тому +19

    It would be great if material like this was put into TV programs so that the MSM did more than tell us stuff we all already knew about Rome and Greece.

    • @lallyoisin
      @lallyoisin 4 роки тому +3

      'Knew'?
      It's all conjecture!! Graeco-roman history is as dodgy as any. They wrote their own.. always dodgy! How did the phoenicians go under the radar? Monuments equally as impressive as the greeks? Barely a mention till lately.

  • @ergungeyikdagi3392
    @ergungeyikdagi3392 6 років тому +2

    Very instructive well explained and well illustrated subject. Thanks

  • @jeffreyforeman5031
    @jeffreyforeman5031 2 роки тому

    thanks for your great presentation

  • @thomasf.5768
    @thomasf.5768 3 роки тому

    Great presentation & explanation. Fantastic info & visual aids. Amazing enthusiasm & continued excitement in his voice.... Lol. However, such enthusiasm is needed at that level of professorship 😁
    I look forward to further discoveries.

  • @onbedoeldekut1515
    @onbedoeldekut1515 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks most ever so kindly!
    This is excellent!

  • @augustsonseventy42
    @augustsonseventy42 4 роки тому +1

    You guys are great!

  • @Xscott1000
    @Xscott1000 7 років тому +3

    Thank you - I learned allot from this.

  • @zinknot
    @zinknot 7 років тому +3

    Right to left, then left to right, thats brilliant, no wasted eye movement, you can read faster that way.

    • @ginemginem
      @ginemginem 7 років тому +3

      But it would be just a tidbit slower to jump in at a random line, that is if they didn't have some kind of marker to denote if you are on an odd or even page.

  • @gardener5857
    @gardener5857 5 років тому +19

    I would have enjoyed this more if the oaf in the audience would have silenced his phone. How you let that happen twice is astounding.

    • @noahc98
      @noahc98 3 роки тому +2

      I agree with the sentiment, but don't let ~30 seconds of annoyance ruin an amazing hour-long lecture!

  • @slitheytoves
    @slitheytoves 6 років тому +5

    Great lecture - Thank you!

  • @farielzouioueche2180
    @farielzouioueche2180 2 роки тому +1

    Avec ça on nous a raconté que la Grèce a été un miracle de l'histoire,,,,la Grèce a été le dernier chaînon avant la création progressive de l'Europe si étonnée de se découvrir des ancêtres avec un alphabet...Tout avait déjà été dit mille fois sous différentes formes et langues..à nous de chercher et réfléchir c'est ce qu'a fait le génie de Champolion ouvrant la route aux autres,,,et ce n'était encore que presque un enfant,décidé,,il n'y a même pas une plaque en son nom place de la concorde,,,et si les turcs ont hérité de la Turquie ce n'est que justice de l'histoire car elle leur ap parte ait depuis des millénaires.

  • @intractablemaskvpmGy
    @intractablemaskvpmGy 8 років тому +19

    Fantastic presentation. I love these lectures put on by the Oriental Institute! On another note was it his phone that kept ringing? You'd think a person in the audience would silence the phone first time around. But no they let it ring on several different occasions. Bringing it up sounds nitpicky but it disrespects the speaker to leave the ringer on at an event like this.

  • @joshuarosen6242
    @joshuarosen6242 7 років тому +3

    Thank you, that was very interesting. I knew almost nothing about this subject but I've always been interested in ancient history and this was very informative.

  • @peterjwsong1823
    @peterjwsong1823 3 роки тому

    The last portion which mentions the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem indicated that this type of monumental imagery directly influenced the cultures of Israel and Judah. I suspect the literary reference "The Lion of Judah" figuratively may reference such statuary being visible at some time in both the Northeren Kingdom of Israel and the Southern Kingdom of Judah.

  • @solomonshepherd4824
    @solomonshepherd4824 3 роки тому

    Sadly Ayn Dara has been damaged...does anybody know about the Aleppo Museum gate?

  • @Michael_qy9py
    @Michael_qy9py 2 місяці тому

    It seems to me if al-Mina is the key site, which surely traded via Arwad to Cyprus & beyond, the title should more correctly be called Phoenicio-Anatolian city states, not Syro-Anatolian.

  • @brannonmacgorman8607
    @brannonmacgorman8607 6 років тому +19

    Pit yr effin phone on vibrate

    • @Swoost
      @Swoost 6 років тому +5

      "take your time" lol ikr how long does it take to silence a phone like 3 seconds?

  • @braxtonmay391
    @braxtonmay391 4 роки тому

    Fantastic lecture. Very entertaining and informative.

  • @Redfreakarlitos
    @Redfreakarlitos 4 роки тому

    Fascinating

  • @tti2Lee
    @tti2Lee 4 роки тому

    How have these sites fared in this time of war?

  • @iangillham9647
    @iangillham9647 4 роки тому

    Can I second Shufei, terrific, proper academic stuff!

  • @farielzouioueche2180
    @farielzouioueche2180 2 роки тому

    Dommage interruption des english subtitels je ne peux pas suivre il parle trop vite,,,

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn63 4 роки тому +1

    29:47 Isn't that Bad Science?

  • @veronicalogotheti5416
    @veronicalogotheti5416 3 роки тому +2

    The frisians were in touch with the greeks

  • @NeriyahuBenMali
    @NeriyahuBenMali 2 роки тому

    🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @siblinganon66
    @siblinganon66 7 років тому +2

    8:20 to 8:26 : it should be anatolian-syro culture.

    • @flavourlessjosephus2910
      @flavourlessjosephus2910 6 років тому +2

      Really? I thought the alphabetic ordering only applies when one doesn't end in an open vowell.

  • @veronicalogotheti5416
    @veronicalogotheti5416 3 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @veronicalogotheti5416
    @veronicalogotheti5416 3 роки тому

    Many went after the volcan of thera 1500bc

  • @onepartofone
    @onepartofone 4 роки тому

    Presence of Greek pottery can just be a popular import. Or popular style. In Britain in the 19th century local pottery producers replicated Chinese style pottery, while not many Chinese lived in Britain at the time. In medieval Russia royal armer had Arabian writing, because it was made in the middle east and, since it was expensive, could only be affordable to aristocracy. However it doesn't mean that arabs lived in Russia nor that Russian princes used Arabic writing.

  • @edwardleas592
    @edwardleas592 3 роки тому

    When meticulous detailed excavation is definitely a blue collar trade , but in university the jokes never land

  • @deafprophet
    @deafprophet Рік тому

    Sea People/ Beaker Bell

  • @KeinsingtonCisco
    @KeinsingtonCisco 6 років тому +2

    Great Lecture! Next time though please talk a little more about the particular deity/god of the temple and try not to start your talk by insulting the audience lol

  • @veronicalogotheti5416
    @veronicalogotheti5416 3 роки тому

    Siro

  • @veronicalogotheti5416
    @veronicalogotheti5416 3 роки тому

    That the greeks put the vowels

  • @veronicalogotheti5416
    @veronicalogotheti5416 3 роки тому +1

    They dont get credit because there you see that the bible is not saying the truth

  • @thomasvieth6063
    @thomasvieth6063 3 роки тому

    I would have cut off the persistent cellphone. You are being too nice when at other times you show us how assertive you can be

  • @claudiosaltara8847
    @claudiosaltara8847 5 років тому +3

    Terrible audio.

  • @philo3936
    @philo3936 Рік тому

    ARABS they're Arabs. Funally an explanation of how persians came to be

  • @veronicalogotheti5416
    @veronicalogotheti5416 3 роки тому

    The greeks were in the area from milenia

  • @geoffreystuttle8080
    @geoffreystuttle8080 4 роки тому +3

    It would be nice if lecturers would take a course on how to speak clearly and in an unhurried manner.

  • @gullybull5568
    @gullybull5568 2 роки тому

    SO
    the name JE sus is NOT the real name ! cool .
    IESUS - but 40 NAMES from Egypt.
    These SEA PEOPLES are from West - Invaded east.
    NOT Phillistines - but Scythia .

  • @dadsonworldwide3238
    @dadsonworldwide3238 5 років тому +1

    Neo hittite because the sons grandson and great grandson of the hittite king of hatusha ruled these city states.
    Syro anatolian doesnt do it justice it's on the corner or not even anirltolia regions.

  • @veronicalogotheti5416
    @veronicalogotheti5416 3 роки тому

    Ugarit was in siria

  • @veronicalogotheti5416
    @veronicalogotheti5416 3 роки тому

    There they found the writings
    With the alphabet

  • @veronicalogotheti5416
    @veronicalogotheti5416 3 роки тому +1

    With the indoeuropeans greeks

  • @barnabybudgie
    @barnabybudgie 7 років тому +5

    Very very interesting content but the he speaks too fast and swallows the end of his sentences. What a pity. Maybe nerves? Or not used to public speaking?

    • @hughaldous5195
      @hughaldous5195 6 років тому +3

      Person too its just lack of experience, eventually he will find his style. Plus he was roped in at the last minute so there would be a lack of practice of the talk. 8/10

  • @veronicalogotheti5416
    @veronicalogotheti5416 3 роки тому

    The alphabet is from the akkadian

  • @tobystewart4403
    @tobystewart4403 6 років тому +2

    The more we learn of the Bronze age collapse, the more appears to have been achieved by those living in the "dark ages". Iron working, and the alphabet, not to mention the novel art style shown here. Perhaps the correct way to describe the period is the colonisation of the levant by the advanced European "sea people". An enlightenment, a move away from the simple theocratic tyranny of primitive Sumerian and Egyptian ideas. Even the Book of Samuel describes the Philistines denying blacksmiths to the Israelites (Chaldean migrants), due to their larger numbers, implying that the Philistines were indeed the superior culture. Great speech!

    • @justsomeofmyfavs
      @justsomeofmyfavs 5 років тому +5

      The dark ages after the Bronze Age collapse in the Eastern Mediterranean, and especially the Greek Dark Ages, are called so for a reason - loss of writing (Linear B), reversion of pottery to much more coarse and primitive styles, dwindling in number and population size of urban sites including wholesale destruction of many, collapse of trade. It has nothing to do with your "Indo-European superiority of the Sea Peoples" complex which you are trying to convey here. After all, no one knows the exact ethno-linguistic composition of the Sea Peoples, and they destroyed at least two already established and known Indo-European polities which were more civically advanced than them - the Mycenaean world in Greece and the Hittite empire in Turkey, severely downgrading the level of civilization in those territories for a couple of centuries at least. By the way, it were the Hittites who first discovered iron quite some time before the Bronze Age collapse, not the Sea Peoples. And it were the Semitic Phoenicians (who lived in the Levant long before the Bronze Age collapse, and long after it) who first invented the alphabet, not your precious Sea Peoples OR any Indo-Europeans - and certainly not Philistines who never left even a single inscription in their own language, precisely because they had no writing. ALEF-BETH - the consonant letter names are all Northwest Semitic, and are preserved so in Greek.
      And by the way, Israelites ARE a native Levantine people because even if one accepts the ludicrous notion that they were all "Chaldean migrants" en masse, this is moot because Chaldeans were an Aramean tribe whose original territory was in Syria, near modern-day Israel and Lebanon, and not Babylonia where they first appeared around 940 BCE (long after the Israelites first appear in the Southern Levant and in Egyptian inscriptions around 1200 BCE). While the Philistines are clearly not native to the region.
      Eurasian agriculture, advanced civilization and urbanized society with all its advantages and disadvantages originates from the Fertile Crescent, from the Near East, and there is nothing you can do about it.

  • @sprinkle2513
    @sprinkle2513 7 років тому +3

    He says 'right' too much.

  • @gullybull5568
    @gullybull5568 2 роки тому

    4:07
    he just HAS TO SAY judes or israael.
    NO - ONE - CARES.
    Greek was the high speech NOT hebrew Ahahahaha.
    Nice .Try.
    TIME . OFF .
    confusing . erra.
    uh-huh.

  • @rainhawk5264
    @rainhawk5264 3 роки тому

    actually, it is not called Assyria but Accuria...in direction of Chur/Kur - Zagros...KURdistan

  • @assyrianbetnahrian9574
    @assyrianbetnahrian9574 Рік тому

    Syro....???????? Not

  • @davidragsdale7923
    @davidragsdale7923 6 років тому +3

    Too many ums. His rhetorical style lacks gravitas. I was also disappointed to learn he has no Latin.
    And given this was a popular lecture he should have saved his hemming & hawing on his subject's importance for his peer reviewed pieces. Or at the very least, as an ornamental post script at the END (not the beginning!) of the lecture.
    Still, very interesting content.

    • @davidragsdale7923
      @davidragsdale7923 6 років тому +2

      And ha! "Totally neutral...that no one can get mad at..." Is this what Academia has become? And I will guess it is not those supposedly rigid & anti-intellectual Right wingers, he's afraid to displease. #sigh

  • @gullybull5568
    @gullybull5568 2 роки тому +1

    THERE ARE NO HEBREW BOOKS.
    no.historical.records.to.note.

  • @gullybull5568
    @gullybull5568 2 роки тому +1

    SAY - O'KRAINA.
    arratta.
    celti

  • @timflatus
    @timflatus 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome lecture! Thank you.